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01:32 DivideByZero Even if I recreate the doors they disappear again if I leave the area and return.
01:32 DivideByZero Half size doors do not seem to be affected.
01:34 DivideByZero Tried from a second computer with another version of Minetest also. So, I think it is server related. Perhaps a miss-behaving mod.
01:35 MTDiscord <Jonathon> a/lbm perhaps?
01:36 DivideByZero What is that?
01:36 MTDiscord <Jonathon> probably would be a lbm, as thats when loaded
01:37 DivideByZero Can you can a quick definition of 'lbm'?
01:37 MTDiscord <Jonathon> a lbm runs every time a part of the map is loaded
01:37 MTDiscord <Jonathon> hence its already loaded, you place a door, unloaded it, reload it, the lbm triggers
01:37 DivideByZero WHat does lmb stand for? Is it an acronym?
01:37 MTDiscord <Jonathon> that is my guess
01:38 MTDiscord <Jonathon> LoadingBlockModifier
01:38 DivideByZero ok
01:38 MTDiscord <Jonathon> literally search lua_api.txt
01:38 MTDiscord <Jonathon> do you have worldedit on this server?
01:38 MTDiscord <Jonathon> or using linux
01:38 DivideByZero So, the doors do already exist so when I place a new door over it, it removes the new door, but not the old door?
01:39 MTDiscord <Jonathon> huh?
01:39 DivideByZero I have world edit, haven't used it for awhile now though, and I use Linux for the server and the computer I game from.
01:39 MTDiscord <Jonathon> you said you place a door, unload the area, come back and the door is gone correct?
01:39 DivideByZero Well sometimes it's just gone, and other times I see the door for less than a second before it disappears.
01:40 DivideByZero That happens on the door to my home often.
01:40 MTDiscord <Jonathon> yeah, slow lbm probably
01:40 DivideByZero But I walked around and all other doors are missing or disappearing when I encounter them also.
01:40 MTDiscord <Jonathon> either grep for register_lbm in your mods folder, do //lua minetest.chat_send_all(dump(minetest.registered_lbms))
01:40 DivideByZero How would I fix a slow lbm and get my doors back?
01:41 MTDiscord <Jonathon> and while your at it grep for register_abm in your mods folder, do //lua minetest.chat_send_all(dump(minetest.registered_abms))
01:41 DivideByZero Type this is terminal, or in the game?
01:41 DivideByZero in*
01:42 MTDiscord <Jonathon> grep in your terminal, //lua command in game
01:42 MTDiscord <Jonathon> either or will give you a idea of what a/lbms are registered
01:42 DivideByZero ok, give me a moment.
01:42 DivideByZero And thanks.
01:43 MTDiscord <Jonathon> note, im just guess its probably a a/lbm action the way you describe it, i have no hands on with the issue
01:45 DivideByZero I did the two in game commands, where does it dump to?
01:45 DivideByZero Not in my log
01:46 MTDiscord <Jonathon> chat
01:46 DivideByZero Nothing appeared on the chat screen either
01:46 MTDiscord <Jonathon> default key binding f10 will open chat larger
01:47 DivideByZero Yes, but still it gave no output, though it registered the command issued
01:47 DivideByZero Do I need some debug setting enabled first?
01:47 MTDiscord <Jonathon> no
01:47 MTDiscord <Jonathon> what game are you using?
01:48 DivideByZero Minetest default with a bunch of mods added.
01:48 MTDiscord <Jonathon> even stock mtg gives me a output
01:48 MTDiscord <Jonathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/866496645037817876/unknown.png
01:48 DivideByZero Yeah, I didn't get anything like that on my screen/
01:48 DivideByZero Want a screenshot?
01:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> sure
01:49 DivideByZero I'm on IRC, i'll have to link it to a image site.
01:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> yeah, fine
01:52 DivideByZero WHat's a new alternative to tinypic? It's dead now.
01:53 MTDiscord <Jonathon> imgur?
01:54 DivideByZero https://imgur.com/a/4dIWskB
01:57 MTDiscord <Jonathon> im not seeing anything at that link
01:59 DivideByZero Hmm, let me try again
02:01 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ok
02:01 DivideByZero That website wasn't working for me for some reason, but try this one:  https://postimg.cc/yJ1m8MJL
02:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> looks like you have some sort of mod sending debug to chat?
02:04 DivideByZero Yes.
02:04 MTDiscord <Jonathon> what mod is it?
02:04 DivideByZero Just for the admin accounts. Makes it easier when installing mods to check for errors and such.
02:05 DivideByZero Um..  I'll have to check, I'll get back to you on that shorly.
02:08 DivideByZero szutil_logtrace: Allow privileged players to monitor server debug trace in chat. Part of this mod: https://content.minetest.net/packages/Warr1024/szutilpack/
02:09 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ok, try toggling that off, and then running the //lua command
02:11 DivideByZero ok
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02:13 DivideByZero rebooting the minetest server, it takes a few minutes.
02:14 DivideByZero I don't put the word 'do' in do it? I did from the //
02:15 MTDiscord <Jonathon> //lua minetest.chat_send_all(dump(minetest.registered_lbms))
02:16 DivideByZero Yeah, that's what I did. Ok, waiting to retry withou the szutil
02:20 DivideByZero Even without that mod I am getting no output.
02:20 DivideByZero I did /mods, to make sure it's not loaded too.
02:21 MTDiscord <Jonathon> what is it doing now?
02:21 DivideByZero Nothing. I did see some output about an error for each of those commands on the console.
02:21 DivideByZero Server: ProcessData(): PacketError: what=String too long
02:21 DivideByZero For both commands, that same error.
02:22 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ah, to many a/lbms
02:22 DivideByZero Oh. From so many mods?
02:22 MTDiscord <Jonathon> minetest.chat_send_all can only handle so long of strings
02:22 DivideByZero That makes sense.
02:22 MTDiscord <Jonathon> you can always grep your mod directory
02:23 DivideByZero Can you give the full grep command I need to use?
02:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> grep -r register_abm MOD_DIR_PATH
02:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> grep -r register_lbm MOD_DIR_PATH
02:24 DivideByZero And do this from the mods folder, correct?
02:24 MTDiscord <Jonathon> swap MOD_DIR_PATH for your mods path
02:24 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well, anywhere
02:24 DivideByZero If I do it from the mods folder do I still need to specify a path?
02:25 MTDiscord <Jonathon> no
02:25 DivideByZero ok it's processing and I'm getting output.
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02:26 DivideByZero Should I be looking for something particular in this output, or put it on pastebin so you can see the output from each command?
02:26 MTDiscord <Jonathon> this will give you a output of what mods register a/lbms
02:27 DivideByZero I see lots of them.
02:27 DivideByZero I don't know how to spot a misbehaving one though.
02:27 DivideByZero It looks like a big list with no extra data about it.
02:27 MTDiscord <Jonathon> hmm, im thinking how to dump the whole abm from grep
02:28 DivideByZero ok. Thanks, I will wait for your next suggestion.
02:30 DivideByZero PS: The only door mod I have is 'Doors Redo' by TenPlus1, and I haven't had any issues with it in the past, but it could be a possibility.
02:31 DivideByZero His code usually seems pretty well done though.
02:32 MTDiscord <Jonathon> //lua for _, bt in pairs(minetest.registered_lbms) do for _, item in pairs(bt.nodenames) do if string.find(item, "door") then minetest.chat_send_all(bt.mod_origin) break end end end
02:32 MTDiscord <Jonathon> try that from in game
02:32 MTDiscord <Jonathon> terrible code, but your only running it once
02:32 DivideByZero ok
02:32 MTDiscord <Jonathon> that will give you a dump of mods that use string door in there nodenames category of lbms
02:33 DivideByZero it listed 'doors' multiple times, and then ended with an error:
02:33 MTDiscord <Jonathon> oh?
02:34 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ...the error is?
02:34 DivideByZero WorldEdit -!- code error: (load):1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got string)
02:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
02:35 DivideByZero Sorry took me a few seconds, had to type it out manually.
02:35 MTDiscord <Jonathon> oh yeah, heh
02:35 MTDiscord <Jonathon> i could work around that, but it be even longer
02:35 DivideByZero I'm willing to try. Thanks for volunteering your time to assist.
02:36 MTDiscord <Jonathon> https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/doors/src/master/init.lua#L293-L332 is the only l/abm doors redo uses, which odesnt say anything about air
02:36 MTDiscord <Jonathon> *doesnt
02:37 DivideByZero That one didn't show up in the last command I did, just `doors`. (Which is the default doors, isn't it?)
02:38 DivideByZero But if may have got that error before it finished.
02:38 MTDiscord <Jonathon> doors redo claims to be doors from a code standpoint, just as farming redo claims to be farming
02:38 DivideByZero it*
02:38 DivideByZero Oh, ok.
02:39 MTDiscord <Jonathon> im curious how a nodenames is not a table
02:39 DivideByZero Should I try to disable doors redo? Unfortunately I lost most of my doors now anyways.
02:39 MTDiscord <Jonathon> because according to lua_api.txt it should be a table always
02:40 DivideByZero The error looks like it's from WorldEdit and not Minetest itself. Perhaps WorldEdit has an error in it?
02:40 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well, you can try disabling it and seeing what happens, you may end up with some unknown nodes, but nothing re enabling shouldnt fix
02:41 MTDiscord <Jonathon> the error is worldedit complaining about a error in my lua code rather than crashing
02:42 DivideByZero Oh, I also have a shared locks mod, which could possinly affect doors also, since it adds locks to certain doors (not the ones I've been using though that are disappearing.)
02:43 DivideByZero And I see Home Decor pack adds something for doors too.
02:43 DivideByZero `doors_and_gates`
02:43 DivideByZero And Mesecons has mesecons_doors (but I don't think I've used any of those either)
02:44 MTDiscord <Jonathon> //lua for _, bt in pairs(minetest.registered_lbms) do if type(bt.nodenames) == "table" then for _, item in pairs(bt.nodenames) do if string.find(item, "door") then minetest.chat_send_all(bt.mod_origin) break end end else minetest.chat_send_all("it is " .. type(bt.nodenames)) end end
02:44 DivideByZero While I'm waiting if you give a longer command, I'm going to see what happens if I disable Doors Redo
02:44 DivideByZero Oh, I'll do your command first then.
02:44 MTDiscord <Jonathon> i included a debug string to tell us what type nodenames is when it errors
02:45 MTDiscord <Jonathon> hence the it is .. type
02:45 DivideByZero I got a longer list this time, and WorldEdit reported success.
02:45 DivideByZero Do you need to see the list?
02:46 MTDiscord <Jonathon> uh, what besides doors is in it?
02:48 DivideByZero `it is string` x3, castle, xpanes, `mtg_plus` x4, ethereal, `homedecor_doors_and_gates` x12, palm, oak, maple, larch, clementinetree, chestnuttree, birch, ??
02:49 DivideByZero Larch door is one of the doors that disapears.
02:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> what the heck is a larch door?
02:49 DivideByZero I used that door on my home.
02:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> aka, what mod provides it?
02:49 DivideByZero Kind of like a barn looking door but with different handles.
02:50 DivideByZero mod_larch
02:50 MTDiscord <Jonathon> never heard of that mod
02:50 MTDiscord <Jonathon> do you know what that mod is?
02:51 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well, can you post a screenshot from game of you pointing at the door with f5(debug) on?
02:51 DivideByZero I tried a different door though and it still disapeared, glass door, which I think is a default one.
02:53 DivideByZero I'm not sure which mod it was part of, perhaps MoreTrees?
02:53 DivideByZero I'll try to do that screenshot.
02:54 MTDiscord <Jonathon> is it doing it for all doors, or only select doors?
02:56 DivideByZero https://postimg.cc/N9CGHzg8
02:56 DivideByZero All of them I believe, let me run around and check a couple more.
02:57 DivideByZero Locked doors, half doors, and some very basic doors were not affected, but most of the nicer looking doors I used are now gone.
02:59 DivideByZero Was that screenshot any help?
02:59 MTDiscord <Jonathon> i was refering to placing the door and pointing at it, so i could see it, as well as its node name
03:00 DivideByZero oh ok
03:00 DivideByZero I'll do another one.
03:00 MTDiscord <Jonathon> basically, i wnt this
03:00 MTDiscord <Jonathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/866514795632787476/unknown.png
03:00 MTDiscord <Jonathon> *want
03:02 DivideByZero https://postimg.cc/XpSqctfx
03:02 DivideByZero Yup, I got that in this shot.
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03:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> so ok, thats a door from cool trees
03:03 DivideByZero Ok.
03:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> and some mods from it came up in lbms
03:04 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well, let me go read its code
03:04 DivideByZero Ok, thank you very much.
03:05 MTDiscord <Jonathon> actually screw that, ill grep it.
03:07 MTDiscord <Jonathon> nothing that would indicate removal there
03:08 DivideByZero ok
03:08 DivideByZero As long as I stay near the door, like while looking at it, it doesn't disapear.
03:09 MTDiscord <Jonathon> do you use worldmods, or world.mt to enable your mods?
03:09 DivideByZero world.mt
03:10 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well, i was trying to avoid this, want to upload it to some pastebin site?
03:10 DivideByZero Sure.
03:13 DivideByZero pastebin.com/91BwCkmf
03:16 MTDiscord <Jonathon> homedecor does convert doors, but it does not remove them
03:18 DivideByZero So that one shouldn't be my issue then?
03:18 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well ok, nothing stands out to me, and i dont relish reading through all of these
03:19 DivideByZero I do have quite a few mods loaded. But they all added fun to the game or some other benefit.
03:19 MTDiscord <Jonathon> correct https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/-/blob/master/homedecor_doors_and_gates/init.lua#L752-772
03:19 DivideByZero A bunch of others I had tried and they either didn't work or I didn't like them, and they are disabled (false)
03:20 DivideByZero Something you want me to read at that link?
03:20 MTDiscord <Jonathon> i just linked the lbm it uses for doors
03:20 DivideByZero ok
03:20 MTDiscord <Jonathon> idk, ima say ask someone else, its late and i dont have much more time to look at this, sorry
03:20 DivideByZero I see the code, but nothing stuck out at me. :D
03:21 DivideByZero Ok, no problem, you already put in quite a bit of time to it, so thank you for that. It is appreciated.
03:22 MTDiscord <Jonathon> np
03:23 DivideByZero Have a good night.
03:24 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ty
03:24 DivideByZero :)
03:37 DivideByZero Seems my issue has to do with the `Doors Redo` mod by TenPlus1, I reported the error to his git page:  https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/doors/issues/3
03:37 DivideByZero With the mod disabled the doors no longer disappear.
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14:33 Bombo is there a reason why mt doesn't support mysql or mariadb? i guess i have to install postgresql too just for mt
14:36 specing hopefully because they suck
14:36 sfan5 lack of interest
14:36 sfan5 people who don't care use sqlite, people who do use postgres
14:36 sfan5 I once wrote a mariadb backend fwiw https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/db_mysql
14:40 Bombo mkay thx
14:41 Bombo i just noticed the HD is making noises while we are playing
14:42 Bombo so it would probably be better to use postgres or maria i think
14:42 Bombo and faster i hope?
14:46 Bombo faster like in: the world builds up faster as i walk around ;)
14:47 sfan5 a dedicated db server might cache stuff in RAM but so will your OS if you use sqlite, not really that much different
14:48 sfan5 for speed try with sqlite_synchronous = 0 in your minetest.conf
14:48 sfan5 (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/stable-5/minetest.conf.example#L1512)
14:48 sfan5 sorry, sqlite_synchronous = 1 actually
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14:52 Bombo mkay it sounds just like every 3 or so seconds it does something on hd
14:52 Bombo will try that
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15:55 Bombo still much happening on the hd
15:55 Bombo and flying dragons are stuttering worse than m-m-max headroom
15:56 Bombo trying with sqlite_synchronous = 0 now
16:05 Bombo now it's pretty silent, but i guess minetest server is frozen, can't connect and 100% cpu heh
16:05 Bombo hm i moved too fast
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16:18 Bombo it's really faster, let's hope nothing crashes hehe
16:18 Pexin flying dragon crashes?
16:18 Bombo no the server
16:18 Pexin flying    dragon    crashes
16:19 Pexin needs wing in cast for 5 weeks
16:19 Bombo well it almost did, it was flying away, me following, until the world's end, then the server froze
16:19 Bombo and no beer
16:20 Bombo it was flying at one spot, the new blocks weren't loading
16:20 Pexin end of ze world
16:21 MTDiscord <Warr1024> "flying dragon crashes" ... now I'm imagining dragons in today's world, populations devastated by towerkill...
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16:24 Bombo will come soon :)(
16:25 Bombo my 9yo niece asked me if we can build a dragon in real world, i said 'sure'
16:27 Pexin build it genetically!
16:28 Bombo or half robot half animal half pterodactyl
16:29 Pexin haha, when I was a kid, my cousin and I wanted to build a transformer. specifically mirage (I'm old) our uncle was interested in helping but was confused about where the pilot sits when in robot form. us kids were confused about what a gear shift does.
16:29 Pexin shocking newsflash: that project did not happen
16:30 Bombo heh
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16:31 Pexin oh, and if you really want to know what it's like to meet a dragon, watch a cat torment a mouse. then Be The Mouse.
16:32 Pexin done
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16:41 Bombo we could tame the dragon by feeding it cats :)
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17:29 jonadab It's hard to imagine a dragon actually *eating* a cat (really, really doesn't seem worth it), but I can readily imagine a dragon tormenting a cat.
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18:51 VanessaE how do clickable links work in MT?  I git pulled a couple of days ago, and I've enabled the setting, but they're still not clickable in either the F10 or "T" dropdowns, or when visible in the recent chat (provided I hit ESC so that it releases the mouse pointer)
18:51 VanessaE (this is Linux, if that matters, and the system default browser is Chrome)
18:58 Krock shift+click or middle click
18:59 specing VanessaE: let me tell you a secret: patch mt so that chat is sent to stdout/file, then click links in terminal :P
18:59 VanessaE Krock: nope.
19:00 VanessaE specing: normally I'd see them in my servers' IRC also. :)
19:00 VanessaE so really, the feature isn't useful for me, but I'd still like to make sure I can let others know how to use it.
19:02 specing VanessaE: not PMs, no
19:02 VanessaE ok, there's that.
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19:28 Pexin VanessaE: can also get to the setting from settings tab at main menu
19:30 Pexin are links blue?
19:41 Pexin are you using freetype?
19:59 VanessaE the links are not specially-colored.  freetype... um.  you know, I'm not sure if that's compiled-in
19:59 * VanessaE checks
19:59 VanessaE yep. it's in there.
20:00 Pexin just to be thorough: the setting takes effect after restarting MT, and links must start with http:// or https://
20:00 VanessaE I restarted it after changing that setting
20:01 Pexin (I have no idea how/if non freetype might affect it)
20:01 VanessaE wait
20:01 VanessaE maybe I didn't
20:01 * VanessaE checks again
20:01 VanessaE (I might have only exited to the menu)
20:02 VanessaE AAHHH
20:03 VanessaE they're blue and work on middle-click now
20:03 Pexin otay  :]
20:03 VanessaE shift-left-click does not work though
20:03 Pexin ctrl
20:04 VanessaE noted
20:05 Pexin 2 reasons it's not enabled by default. 1. i had considered it "experimental" and just never changed my mind. 2. it does nothing for touchscreen users and I'm still not quite sure how it may affect performance on cheap tablets.
20:16 VanessaE well on cheap tabs MT doesn't work well anyway, not on a real server anyway :)
20:19 Pexin i've only tried on a tablet once. _barely_ worked in singleplayer vanilla. on a server, it took forever to load then crashed out
20:19 Pexin but it was android 4.4
20:42 VanessaE well, the android version doesn't much matter, so much as the hardware, and with "cheap" usually comes weak hardware
20:42 VanessaE that said, when I tried it once, MT worked just kinda okay-ish on my Galaxy S4 running 4.4.  about as I'd expect for a phone
20:56 independent56 haha the UK government hates RAR so much they made an article guiding you on it
20:56 independent56 oh wait... it's a different context :-/
20:57 independent56 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-rehabilitation-activity-requirement-in-probation/rar-guidance If you truly arecurious.
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