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independent_ |
i love the "3-2-1 rule", but does the "2 types of media" mean that me using an SSD on my main, and a HDD on my backups is ok? |
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independent_ |
Haha my second hard drive goes "whoosh tick" once per second. |
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I just put the cover on the drive.. and wow, so much quieter. |
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mohammadashik |
Hello! |
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MTDiscord |
<j45> Hey |
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Swift110-mobile |
hey all |
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meldrian |
Aloha everyone |
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IvanGorinich |
hello |
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MTDiscord |
<wwar> ? |
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IvanGorinich |
i make roleplay server |
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IvanGorinich |
but its rusian, who know rusian can join and play |
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IvanGorinich |
you can make your own country or company |
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IvanGorinich |
my server selfhosted and no comercial |
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IvanGorinich |
commercial |
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* specing |
roleplays as a disconnected player |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Panquesito7 -> minetest/minetest_game: Replace Travis CI with GitHub actions (#2661) 9270188 https://git.io/JcQCJ (2021-07-08T10:47:37Z) |
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twoelk: Jul-07 19:56 UTC <benrob0329> Already planned, though I don't remember if I had any ideas for how to keep players from building there |
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independent_ |
IvanGorinich, i can understand 12% of russian. What's the name? i would love to visit and see how such a server works, and what elements i can silently take into my own. |
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IvanGorinich |
https://mtroleplay.ivangorinich.repl.co/ |
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IvanGorinich |
but you need yggdrasil mesh net client to join |
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IvanGorinich |
becouse i havent static IP |
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independent_ |
My ip changed two days ago. it seems to happen every two or three months |
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independent_ |
How dynamic is your IP? if it happens once per week, then it's fine. |
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IvanGorinich |
with NAT |
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IvanGorinich |
from provider |
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IvanGorinich |
not dynamic to internet |
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IvanGorinich |
Dynamic in providers NAT |
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twoelk |
is your own server up independent_ ? |
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independent_ |
Not online, and port forwarding seems to be confused |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Sounds like not having a public IP might be a more common problem in the russian-speaking world... |
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twoelk |
tsts, just when I was musing on doing some server touring |
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IvanGorinich |
i dont have proxy on VPN server with static ip |
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independent_ |
I dont feel liek install ygdrasl on my ocmpute to play on one single server, sorry. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> There are at least 4 servers on ygg so far |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I had been thinking about trying to come up with a better solution for this, but the biggest problem is probably liability. |
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twoelk |
I totally forgot that joining a VE server with empty cache may take forever |
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independent_ |
how could vannessa possibly operate so many servers? how do they have enough time to maintain the servers? |
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sfan5 |
the server admin doesn't have to do everything personally you know |
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independent_ |
Tell me more |
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Krock |
docker start |
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Krock |
docker start |
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Krock |
docker start |
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Krock |
repeat until all servers are up |
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Krock |
then get some loyal people who won't wreck the server and give them mod powers |
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independent_ |
ohhh... now i get you... so each server is it's own container... i didn't know you could do that! |
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VanessaE |
well it's a bit more than that |
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VanessaE |
and I don't use docker |
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Krock |
what you need to do is to take care of the infrastructure, so that the server runs well |
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Krock |
such as fixing mods that cause errors for no good reason |
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Pexin |
also what mods? your servers are all empty :] |
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Pexin |
(moderators) |
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VanessaE |
:P |
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VanessaE |
yeah they're not as popular as I'd like.. |
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Krock |
? |
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VanessaE |
*shrug* |
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independent_ |
I have just realised... maybe it is a good idea to use docker images to run minetest servers. what are the downsides of such a setup? |
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independent_ |
йвй в ивй вхф |
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independent_ |
Oh wait, russian keyboard enabled. sorry. |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> independent_: Overhead. |
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independent_ |
some examples? |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> That appears to be pretty negligible though. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The advantages appear to significantly outweigh the disadvantages. It's much easier to keep up to date, and to isolate config so that it's all in one place, reproducible and portable, etc |
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independent_ |
Very intresting... just that i need to see a current setup, with a dockerfile i can stea- take inspiration from. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/minetest |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> No need to take inspiration, it's basically turnkey, until you need to customize something beyond just installing games/mods or server config. |
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independent_ |
wow |
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beanzilla |
Yikes... That image would be big... they really should learn about docker layers... Docker will persist the libs apt removes which bloats the iamge size and takes up space... Here's my Dockerfile... https://pastebin.com/XhjHH2YH |
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beanzilla |
But if it works who really cares about the size. |
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independent_ |
https://imgur.com/a/jvuEDoc <-- here is a coushon i made for minetest, in textiles around the beggining of 2020. |
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beanzilla |
Very neat. |
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independent_ |
2020-02-06 |
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independent_ |
i had to do it under the supervision of a lower-class teacher, because duh, autism |
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independent_ |
oh wait i wasn't diagnosed until first quarter 2021 dammit |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Optimizing an image for size often pessimizes it for incremental change speed. I usually try to make as many layers as I reasonably can, sort them in ascending order of probability of needing to be rebuilt, and avoid stripping out dev dependencies since it wastes time adding whiteouts. |
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beanzilla |
Ah, and I didn't notice that I have a proxy where I grab cached copies of the stuff needed from apt install. |
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beanzilla |
That speeds up my build so I don't need to wait 10+ minutes from just downloading the libs and such. |
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beanzilla |
Not to mention my dockerfile simply extracts the tar ball of the minetest source code... it needs that to build.. also needs a bit more setup work besides just drop-play. |
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* beanzilla |
wanders off to find something else he can break on his machine. Hey this still works let's break it. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I use the lsio MT docker image for simple hosting at home. For my "production" server I have a local custom image derived from it where I add more deps and then rebuild the server with pgsql enabled. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The basic version is adequate though for most servers, and I could probably get away with it on my production server if I were okay with taking the server down for backups. |
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beanzilla |
Ooh, fancy stuff, Yeah I'm not brave enough to open to the public a server just yet. |
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beanzilla |
Not to mention I'm more into making mods or fixing clear and obviously broken ones. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> My main motivation for publicly listing a server is to get exposure and beta testers for Nodecore |
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independent_ |
i cant die in nodecore! |
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independent_ |
i can jump off cliffs! |
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independent_ |
i feel so free! |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> It's easy not to lose what you've already got, but it's hard to make progress. |
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independent56 |
Is creating an OS as hard as creating a programming language? |
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rubenwardy |
depends |
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rubenwardy |
on how much you want to do with either |
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independent56 |
I plan on taking a distro of linux, and adding default apps as well as OS changes, to make a more accessible OS, for teachers. |
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independent56 |
"One where forced computer users will be able to efficently and easily do stuff. Teachers are so painfully slow on computers... and for them, computers feel like they are tripping people up." |
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rubenwardy |
oh right, that's more like customising a distro than making an OS |
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independent56 |
Yay! But i can still say "ohh i made an OS", right? |
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rubenwardy |
in the same way someone someone who went to oxford brooks could say they went to oxford university |
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rubenwardy |
so no |
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independent56 |
Well, i may be wrong, but it hasn't stopped people from saying things. Being wrong < The amazment of surrounding teachers when i say "i made an OS". But my honesty will probably make me say "i just added modules to a existing OS and edited some of it". |
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rubenwardy |
it's dishonest |
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rubenwardy |
if you actually want to make one, take a look at https://wiki.osdev.org/Main_Page |
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independent56 |
"Theres a wiki for everything" ~someone else |
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Lone_Wolf |
*~wiki.wikis.org |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> LuaOS when? |
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rubenwardy |
doesn't have manual memory management |
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rubenwardy |
you could use it for user space stuff though |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> As a user, I want to use Lua for all my space stuff |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> There is a systems language based on Lua, might be able to use that if you're clever |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> But it'd probably be better to just have a Lua-based shell and utilities |
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