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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-06-18

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00:08 MTDiscord <Warr1024> I use a VPS with a static IP but I also use a dynamic DNS because (1) I already had an account so it was effectively free and (2) it's easier to remember than a buncha numbers.
00:08 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Also it made migrating to a different host really seamless and transparent to users.
00:12 ar10ch yeah my main concern was that every tim my router updates, it's out-facing IP changes, I thought DDNS fixed that
00:18 MTDiscord <Warr1024> DDNS does fix it but you need to be running an update client to keep it up to date, and there can still be a few minutes' delay for DNS caches to flush out.
00:19 entuland your public dynamic IP could change at any time even just restarting the router (say, power loss) in theory
00:19 entuland I had such IPs change on me all the time
00:20 MTDiscord <Warr1024> In very theory they could just refuse to renew your IP lease and issue you a new one right in the middle of a session and you'd just have your existing connections crap out for a bit.  I've done this to devices on my network when I reorg IP space and they mostly just handle it.
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00:21 ar10ch It sounds more and more like remote-hosting is the answer
00:21 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Don't get too attached to any specific IP address :-/
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00:21 entuland oh nice, IP change without closing the connection looks nasty ahahaha
00:21 MTDiscord <Warr1024> A VPS or other cloud-type host is a better option, yeah.
00:22 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Also, even if your IP doesn't change, your ISP may have other ways to screw with you, such as blocking ports, throttling, or slapping you for ToS violations if you have residential service with a "no public servers" term.
00:23 MTDiscord <Warr1024> In practice they rarely bother, but they COULD
00:24 ar10ch yeah i guess for high traffic. my speed aint great but it aint lousy neither, but I am on a budget package atm
00:25 entuland yeah, I've heard many reports about throttling and port blocking from players I support all around the world
00:26 entuland fritz!box routers in germany often come with a filter that simply flat out cuts any attempt at contacting IP addresses directly (luckily it can be disabled)
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00:28 Calinou for dynamic DNS, I use https://www.nsupdate.info/
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13:30 TvSHnaeowOqL 1iBErA.chat iS a s(aM, (omE 8ack to fR3En0de
13:30 mckayshirou XD
13:31 mckayshirou It is no sense since they just now steal information
13:31 mckayshirou cleared alot of bridges and bots
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14:04 AQRbxePPKvZQ lIBER4.(hAT IS A scAm, c0me 8a(k TO fr3en0DE
14:05 mckayshirou sfan5 or celeron55 ipban that guy
14:05 mckayshirou thx
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14:13 entuland nice how professional that message is with the leetspeak :P
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14:36 erlehmann entuland fun thing: you could avoid the automatic ban for metioning libera.chat by just claiming your channel moves to liberia chat!
14:37 entuland ehehe
14:39 erlehmann also my n key is broke
14:40 entuland macro it away :P
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15:34 MTDiscord <Warr1024> libera.chat really sounds like a form of era.chat that you can link into your own programs.
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19:26 cheapie Well, as far as I can tell, the current official build of Minetest works completely fine on the current state of Windows 11.
19:26 cheapie (which I suppose is to be expected, it's not that much different from 10)
19:29 ROllerozxa I don't think any sane person actually plays minetest on windows to begin with
19:29 mckayshirou yeh
19:29 mckayshirou they better play ads games
19:31 ROllerozxa seriously though I'd actually go out on a limb and say that windows users are actually a minority of minetest players
19:33 mckayshirou i do better do not see that sacrilegy, and go to sleep
19:35 cheapie ROllerozxa: I use Linux on most of the boxes here, but I figured I'd try it on here since I was trying out that leaked Windows 11 build, so *shrug*
19:36 mckayshirou fine then
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19:37 MTDiscord <Warr1024> People do run MT on Windows, and every other platform it supports (and a few it doesn't).  Be wary of sampling bias...
19:38 mckayshirou ye , but there are  some popular games that are not made to run on linux (and are blamed to run on)
19:38 mckayshirou the same applis to minetest here
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19:38 MTDiscord <Warr1024> +1 to anyone making it work on more platforms
19:39 mckayshirou yes but not on windows :P
19:39 MTDiscord <Warr1024> MT is kinda awkward on Windows from what I've seen/heard, but it's nice that it's at least an option.
19:39 mckayshirou kinda = very
19:40 ROllerozxa in what way is it awkward, other than the fact it's officially distributed as a portable zip archive?
19:40 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Eh, as far as open source stuff on Windows goes in general I didn't don't MT particularly bad.  And if I've gotta run Windows at all I still want to bring the open source world with me as far as that's possible.
19:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> Try running minetest on windows, then run minetest on wsl and compare fps (wsl wins)
19:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> Other than that, minetest isnt to bad on windows
19:50 mckayshirou i am gonnay say this: latest minecraft is faster than minetest debian 11
19:50 mckayshirou windows* 11
19:53 MTDiscord <Warr1024> tbf nearly anything should be faster than waiting for debian 11 😏
19:53 mckayshirou that are wise-words
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23:43 mckayshirou (+b *!*@88.155.57.123
23:43 mckayshirou sorry
23:43 mckayshirou just want to invasigate if that guy is from freenode
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