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01:14 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> I'm getting the following error: nodes.lua:74: Attempt to redefine name of default:glass to "default:glass"
01:14 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> Am I misunderstanding the function of minetest.override_item?
01:14 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> minetest.override_item("default:glass", new_def)
01:15 rubenwardy you only want to do difs using new_def
01:15 rubenwardy like, things that have changed
01:15 rubenwardy to replace everything, use register_node with the override character
01:15 rubenwardy minetest.override_item("default:glass", { description = "one two three" })
01:18 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> I don't fully understand @rubenwardy. I am changing parameters of the node definition. Shouldn't that be a case for minetest.override_item?
01:19 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> This is my code: https://github.com/AntumMT/mod-glass/blob/c60b05d/nodes.lua#L70
01:19 rubenwardy it's for differences
01:19 rubenwardy you don't need to read from registered_nodes
01:19 rubenwardy minetest.override_item("default:glass", { paramtype2 = "color", palette = "unifieddyes_palette_extended.png", groups=groups, on_dig = unifieddyes.on_dig })
01:20 rubenwardy if you want to register from registered_nodes, you'll need to do this:
01:20 rubenwardy minetest.register_node(":" .. glass_name, glass_def)
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01:21 rubenwardy I suppose override_item could be made to not care about this distinction
01:22 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> Okay, that's what I was doing before I switched to override_item. But I was getting confused because I ended up with unknown nodes. I think this is because I was calling minetest.unregister_item("default:glass") first. So it sounds like I should not unregister the node.
01:22 rubenwardy yeah, there's no need to unregister the node
01:22 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> Okay, thank you @rubenwardy.
01:23 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> It just clicked when you meant by "differences" :). I understand now.
01:23 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> *what you meant
01:35 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> In override_item, is it okay to use {groups = {ud_param2_colorable=1}}? Or will that remove the old groups? I ask because it won't let me use {groups["ud_param2_colorable"] = 1}.
01:36 MTDiscord <AntumDeluge> Do I first have to retrieve old groups local g = core.registered_nodes["default:glass"].groups then append to it?
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02:35 FrostRanger Are there any plans of an official announcement of the move to libera on the forums?
02:38 FrostRanger I saw that the wiki was changed, but an announcement on the forums would likely still be a good idea
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06:00 independent56 good morning!
06:01 independent56 niceee exactly 7:00
06:01 independent56 im getting "final minetest" to see how crappy it is... and if i can even play on my minetest worlds
06:04 independent56 so crappy that the downloading wouldnt even work /hj
06:12 celeron55 make sure to copy the worlds first, it could be you can't open the worlds on actual minetest afterwards
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06:36 independent56 good advie
06:40 independent56 browser downloading wouldnt work, usng wget. and i have to put the "--no-check-security-certificate" flag :eyes_rolling:
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06:45 independent56 wow... its actually minetest, but an older version
06:46 independent56 and woeld load times are quite slow
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11:23 erlehmann lol freenode https://www.heise.de/news/IRC-freenode-uebernimmt-Kontrolle-bei-700-Kanaelen-Libera-waechst-weiter-6055441.html
11:23 erlehmann mentioning libera.chat is BANNED :D
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13:03 AndrewYu Which is official, hre or freenode
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13:08 Emerald2 Here is, read the channel topic.
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16:19 river hey
16:19 river i built the minetest irrilict fork into a custom prefix
16:20 river how do I build the minetest engine now? how do I make it aware of irrilict I built
16:22 calcul0n river, are you sure you need that? the fork already has another name (libirrlichtmt) so there's no conflict
16:23 calcul0n but you can set IRRLICHT_LIBRARY to your path at configure time
16:23 calcul0n and IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR probably
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18:08 independent56 apt isntalled 0.4 minetest. im gonna use a .deb package insteaf
18:08 rubenwardy You can use the official ppa
18:09 rubenwardy !g launchpad Minetest stable ppa
18:09 Krock !help
18:09 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
18:09 rubenwardy https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
18:09 sfan5 (no google module)
18:09 Krock indeed
18:09 rubenwardy I swear there used to be?
18:10 Krock perhaps from shadowbot?
18:10 ShadowNinja ~help g
18:10 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: (g <an alias on #minetest, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "ddg search $*".
18:10 Krock test
18:10 Krock ~g test
18:10 ShadowBot Krock: Test | Definition of Test by Merriam-Webster - Test definition is - a means of testing: such as. How to use test in a sentence. <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/test>, Test | Definition of Test at Dictionary.com - A test is a series of questions or problems that is used to determine a person's ability or understanding of something. More generally, test refers to a trial, experiment, or examination that is  (2 more messages)
18:14 independent56 thx
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18:23 independent56 what command do i do to prevent the 0.4 minetest being installed using the ppa? rubenwardy
18:24 rubenwardy It'll install the latest available version
18:24 rubenwardy What distro do you use?
18:24 independent56 bodhi, it is lightweight
18:24 independent56 (i use ubuntu mainly, but im installing on an old webbook)
18:25 rubenwardy 6.0?
18:25 independent56 lemme check
18:26 independent56 5.1.0, 32 bit
18:27 sfan5 if you have an old distro you probably want to build from source
18:27 sfan5 (or better yet upgrade your entire system)
18:27 rubenwardy That's based on Ubuntu 18.04 so it should work with the PPA
18:28 sfan5 ah yea, I was thinking older
18:28 independent56 yay minetest 5.4 is running!
18:28 independent56 sfan5: this is the latest version of bodhi i have access to
18:32 independent56 2021-05-27 19:30:43: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
18:39 independent56 i give up
18:39 independent56 minetest can wait until tomorrow
18:40 sfan5 are you running a server?
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18:44 independent56 im trying to
18:44 independent56 but it falls apart
18:45 sfan5 it will already be running then
18:45 independent56 wait... so the cli log just quitting means its running??
18:46 sfan5 no
18:46 sfan5 if it fails to bind to the port that usually means that minetestserver is already running and keeping that port occupied
18:47 independent56 yay!
18:48 independent56 i join with my 5.4.1 computer... and version mismatch error. do i have to downgrade?
18:48 sfan5 is the 0.4 server still running perhaps? from before you uninstalled it?
18:49 comrad independent56: maybe the server is configured to be strict?
18:50 comrad the key in the config would be "strict_protocol_version_checking"
18:50 independent56 hmm
18:50 independent56 will a restart stop the 0.4 server? and will it run again if i do `minetestserver`?
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18:56 logger56 time to make an actual server
18:56 logger56 but now i can ban people for unfair reasons
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19:11 logger56 how do i shutdown a minetest server?
19:14 sfan5 question is "how" is it running
19:14 sfan5 as a service? in a detached terminal?
19:14 logger56 i dunno, just started it with `minetest --server`
19:15 sfan5 then ctrl+c
19:15 logger56 hmm
19:15 logger56 what about with crontab? `minetest ^C` /j?
19:15 logger56 because i plan to run and stop servers with crontab
19:15 sfan5 you can also send a SIGINT signal to a process running in background
19:16 iamweasel killing by pid seems to work pretty well
19:16 logger56 how? example?
19:16 sfan5 killall -INT minetest
19:16 sfan5 *assumes you don't have a client running and only one server
19:17 logger56 yeah, will do.
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19:18 independent56 scp? nah. usb stick to copy worlds over? heck yeah!
19:20 independent56 1,059 files 0_0
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19:21 independent56 can i advertise my server for testing putposes here? (i need to see if people can join with my port-forwarding)
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19:24 Krock I think so yes
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19:25 independent56 yay
19:25 independent56 then i can put it in the forums
19:25 MTDiscord <wwar> i've time to check a test server
19:26 independent56 yeah... you will be waiting [for the main server] as all essential files are copied. but i am going to start the test server
19:27 MTDiscord <wwar> nope i won't wait :þ
19:27 independent56 2.31.88.15
19:27 independent56 here is the ip
19:28 independent56 port is default
19:28 MTDiscord <wwar> k
19:29 MTDiscord <wwar> timed out
19:29 Krock !up 2.31.88.15
19:29 MinetestBot 2.31.88.15:30000 seems to be down
19:29 independent56 0_0
19:29 independent56 may be a problem on my side
19:31 independent56 sorry, i chose 3000, not 30 K
19:31 independent56 fixed
19:31 independent56 (i totally ahvent griefed with lava and admin power >:->)
19:39 independent56 that was fun!
19:40 independent56 especially throwing players into the deep underground
19:40 MTDiscord <wwar> Hope you will success in making it what you like
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20:29 erlehmann so how is the freenode situation
20:32 x_ I believe everything has moved here now, #minetest on freenode was cleared
20:34 independent56 wdym "cleared"? by freenode staff? core devs? channel staff?
20:35 independent56 x_:
20:35 x_ channel staff
20:35 independent56 oh, thats fine
20:35 x_ yeah no coup
20:36 independent56 fuck this situation, we had to go through the pain of moving. _moving_
20:36 independent56 __test of italics__
20:36 independent56 oh
20:36 independent56 gtg
20:36 x_ italics
20:36 independent56 how did you do that? <i>using html</i>?
20:37 entuland some special code of the IRC client
20:38 entuland like with 4co3lo2rs
20:38 independent56 show!
20:38 independent56 tell me how!
20:38 entuland in my case it's Ctrl+K followed by numbers from 0 to 15
20:38 rubenwardy Yeah 04your client needs to send codes
20:38 entuland I don't know the codes for the italics and other variands
20:38 independent56 hmm
20:38 entuland s/d/t
20:39 rubenwardy Dark magic
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20:39 rubenwardy Monospace ,04bg
20:39 independent_ hey 5 testing 7 wow
20:39 rubenwardy And this is how this gets banned in the channel
20:40 entuland ehehhe
20:40 independent56 i should use hexchat
20:40 independent_ wait i havent
20:40 independent_ well, gtg
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20:42 rubenwardy I switched from hexchat to quassel because their client sync is better. It comes with a built-in bouncer
20:42 rubenwardy Plus the quasseldroid Android app is really good
20:50 Fixer if only there was DCC support
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21:11 river export IRRLICHT_LIBRARY=`pwd`/out/lib/libIrrlichtMt.so
21:11 river export IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=`pwd`/out/include
21:11 river then i cd into minetest and try to build
21:12 river but i get the same error
21:12 river Irrlicht found, but it is not IrrlichtMt (Minetest's Irrlicht fork).  The
21:12 river but it is remote.origin.url=https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht
21:12 sfan5 not export
21:12 calcul0n i think it's cmake -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=/...
21:12 sfan5 pass it to cmake as -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=...
21:14 river thanks!
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21:26 river I built it
21:26 river LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../irrlicht/out/lib/ ./out/bin/minetest
21:26 river I run it like this
21:26 river it launches but when i try to start game i get lua errors
21:26 river Runtime error from mod '' in callback handleMainMenuButtons(): ...netest/out/share/minetest/builtin/mainmenu/tab_local.lua:232: attempt to index local 'game' (a nil value)
21:26 river stack traceback:
21:28 river oh thats because i have the engine, not the minetest game
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21:53 independent_ i have.. 271 mods
21:53 independent_ no wonder i keep on hitting the node limit
21:53 independent_ (line length of world.mt)
21:55 river what are the technology and automation mods to look for?
21:55 independent_ technic, pipeworks, mesecons, digilines
21:57 calcul0n yep, and basic_machines/basic_robot for another kind
21:58 river thanks
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