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00:20 AntumDeluge So there appear to be a bunch of different versions of the horse...
00:21 AntumDeluge kpgmobs ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8798 ), mob_horse ( https://content.minetest.net/packages/TenPlus1/mob_horse/ ), whinny ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=17170 ), lott ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5578 ). Is anyone aware of which is the original?
00:22 AntumDeluge I created my own horse based on kpgmobs, but I'm wondering if that is the original horse. I want to make sure I get attributions correct.
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01:11 BrBridge <S​eirdy> test
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01:16 BrBridge <g​ry> 1
01:18 MTDiscord <Jonathon> bridgeception
01:18 BrBridge <H​awk777> Clearly what we need to do now is get MTDiscord to join the libera.chat #minetest so we can create a loop.
01:19 BrBridge <S​oni> and then make a protocol for detecting loops
01:24 Testmine test failed
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03:58 BrBridge <S​oni> benrob0329: sorry about earlier, with the ircv3 stuff. we tried to discredit their efforts over some honestly minor issues.
04:00 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> You're good, I do the same thing sometimes but need to remember that largely volunteer projects are doing their best
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08:31 BrBridge <e​rlehmann> <Hawk777> Clearly what we need to do now is get MTDiscord to join the libera.chat #minetest so we can create a loop.
08:31 BrBridge <e​rlehmann> <Soni> and then make a protocol for detecting loops
08:31 BrBridge <e​rlehmann> Hawk777 Soni there already is a type of message that bots should use so there is no loop
08:31 BrBridge <e​rlehmann> in IRC
08:50 * twoelk watches as speech from different sources unrolls and is broadcasted to different channels
08:51 twoelk I do remember all the noise when several VE servers where connected to the same irc channel
08:52 BrBridge <e​ntuland> BrGandalf to BrBalrog on the BrBridge: Thou Shalt Not Relay!
08:52 twoelk hmm, using "/me" could be translated better through the bridge
08:53 twoelk or rather the use of could be indicated better :-)
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09:25 Dyedefra Hi, i want build minetest-5.4.1 on GNU system, but require IrrlichtMT fork, idk how do
09:25 Dyedefra help pls :c
09:32 sfan5 you can clone it from https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht and build it
09:35 sfan5 uh but actually
09:35 sfan5 5.4.1 does not run with irrlichtmt, you need irrlicht
09:36 sfan5 which your distributions can probably provide
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10:52 Dyedefra oh
10:52 Dyedefra maybe im in wrong branch (?)
10:53 Dyedefra what MT version require irrlichtMT?
10:53 Dyedefra 5.5 maybe?
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11:08 MTDiscord <wwar> I've mentioned before that password registering screen (in android) was small..  Just noticed 'change password' one is small aswell
11:08 MTDiscord <wwar> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/845256749124157460/Screenshot_2021-05-21-14-07-05.png
11:12 sfan5 Dyedefra: yes, 5.5 will
11:12 sfan5 try `git checkout stable-5`
11:15 Dyedefra builded! thanks!
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12:26 BrBridge <e​rlehmann> why is minetest on fdroid so old? https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.minetest.minetest/
12:43 BrBridge <s​fan5> there's currently no automated way of building mt android fully from source, but f-droid requires that
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13:29 MTDiscord <VanessaE> If anyone comes looking for my Minetest servers, I am in the process of an OS upgrade on the server machine.  Including the time it takes to make and restore the backups of /home, it'll be some hours before they're back up.
13:30 MTDiscord <VanessaE> (the backups are on an offsite storage VPS, so the limiting factor is mostly the network)
13:31 MTDiscord <VanessaE> ShadowBot and my quassel instance will both be down for the duration as well, in case ShadowNinja comes sniffing around 🙂
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13:56 BrBridge <S​okomine> AntumDeluge: there're also the petz horses/ponys that are about to take over many worlds. they even allow breeding for speed
14:06 Sokomine ah. a bridge between both networks? fine!
14:43 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> The bridge will be going down for a few while I do some reconfiguring
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14:44 MTDiscord <twoelk> discord bridge is falling down falling down my fair lady
14:50 specing I wish
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14:54 noobgamerz stop such the segregration lol, don't be so all-elite attitude
14:57 Dyedefra oh a bridge bot! Is a LUA bot? someone can share the bot code?
14:58 benrob0329 It's matterbridge (written in Go): https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
14:58 Dyedefra oh
14:58 Dyedefra thanks!
14:58 benrob0329 It's a pretty well rounded bridge, it can connect to several different services
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16:13 benrob0329 apologies for the join/leave spam, I'm trying fighting with multi-platform bridging atm
16:14 BrBridge <C​alinou> hi :)
16:14 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> test
16:14 BrBridge <e​ntuland> no pain no gain :P
16:15 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> Discord bridge no longer adds another prefix Libera side
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16:23 BrBridge <i​amweasel> is BrBridge a bridge bridge??
16:24 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> No, its Benrob's Bridge :P
16:24 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> though I suppose it is bridging a bridge, so you're technically right
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16:37 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> I don't get join/leave spam thanks to a Hexchat plugin I've added that only shows relevant joins/leaves
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16:57 CWz what is BrBridge
16:58 BrBridge <[​0]> Bridge between Freenode and Libera Chat.
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18:29 erlehmann I guess BrBridge was made so that the crypto bro still gets all the chatlogs
18:34 BrBridge <S​wift110-mobile> how is BrBridge set up?
18:35 sfan5 it is clearly an interim solution
18:35 BrBridge <S​wift110-mobile> oh my bad I misunderstood
18:35 BrBridge <S​wift110-mobile> Im gonna get people to manually come to Libera
18:36 BrBridge <S​wift110-mobile> don't know if I want to connect Libera to discord though
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18:48 technerdz just leave it connected via bridge like how it is now, more interconnection is always better since more people can participate in discussion without needing to download yet another piece of software just to connect to IRC just for this game project, and potentially needing to let it run in background so that all chats are still there to read if
18:48 technerdz missed, when they have multiples of other dev projects that use other single software for communication
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19:06 benrob0329 Heh, the global notice about Libera Spambots is funny, because there were freenode spambots on Libera the other day
19:06 MTDiscord <Jordach> mood
19:07 BrBridge <[​0]> There should really just be one bridge that connects to all platforms so we don't have the nested bridging issue.
19:07 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> *shrug*
19:08 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> I can connect BrBridge to Discord, but it works fine IRC-side (as well as any IRC bridge does at the moment)
19:09 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> I actually bridge my game's Discord, IRC, and Matrix together now using it
19:09 BrBridge <C​Wz> impressive.
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19:18 technerdz I meant that as in continue bridging, not necessarily continue using the multiple bridges... if they can all be combined into just one bridge then that's much better
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19:22 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> Well, I'm also battling my long-time enemy, @ everyone pings in Discord
19:32 technerdz there's setting `AllowMention` in matterbridge, which seemed to be added around last week or so
19:32 technerdz https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/wiki/Section-Discord-(basic)
19:33 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> Yeah, I'm grabbing the lastest git rather than the stable now
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19:45 Krock @everyone
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19:51 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> :trollface:
19:55 technerdz I mean, currently different bot is bridging freenode<-->discord where the ping wouldn't work (whereas BrBridge is bridging libera<-->freenode so it's handled differently)
19:55 BrBridge <c​lavi> so we already lost op
19:56 BrBridge <c​lavi> after celeron55 told us to not lose it
19:56 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> clavi?
19:56 BrBridge <c​lavi> hey
19:57 BrBridge <c​lavi> well the oldschool way was to pass op around, evidently that didn't happen
19:57 BrBridge <c​lavi> though I see there's chanserv already
19:57 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> yeah, you can use chanserv to get op if needed
19:57 BrBridge <c​lavi> I don't know if that's set up here yet
19:57 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> it is
19:57 BrBridge <c​lavi> oh good
19:58 MTDiscord <entuland> is my client freaking out or libera is disconnecting others as well every now and then?
19:59 BrBridge <c​lavi> works for me
19:59 MTDiscord <entuland> must be my connection... sigh...
19:59 BrBridge <r​oben1430> Yeah Libera is doing what Freenode used to do to me sometimes and timeout
19:59 BrBridge <r​oben1430> Also bridge restart
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20:06 BrBridge <c​lavi> useless info: current libera servers are 5x Hetzner (DE), 1x Linode (UK), 1x OVH (PL), 1x Sunet (SE), 1x Seeweb (IT)
20:07 technerdz I hope OVH doesn't caught on fire though
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> /)))))))))
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> //) __   __\
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> C==/_o|^|o_\            /!\ IRC.LIBERA.CHAT IS THE BEST IRC NETWORK /!\
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> |      _\  ) /!\ THE JEWS HAVE TAKEN OVER FREENODE, CHATS HAVE MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT /!\
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> \   .--- /             /!\ THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA /!\
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> _/`-. __.'_  /!\ JOIN #LIBERIA TODAY. THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA /!\
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> /` \`'-,._./|\
20:08 BrBridge <y​ushyin25> /    \ /`\_/\/ \
20:08 sfan5 thanks bridge, very useful
20:09 BrBridge <l​uk3yx> Ugh
20:09 Krock lmao
20:09 xerox123 not a bad ASCII face
20:09 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> pls op me
20:09 MTDiscord <entuland> I feel a urge to move to Africa right now
20:09 Krock text wrapping kills it
20:10 BrBridge <c​lavi> can't you op yourself with chanserv, rubenwardy
20:10 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> I don't have permission on the access list
20:10 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> celeron55 does though
20:10 BrBridge <c​lavi> not even hop?
20:10 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> Staff need ops over here
20:11 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> not sure what hop is
20:11 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> apart from stuff in beer
20:11 BrBridge <c​lavi> half op
20:11 BrBridge <C​Wz> I don't get, why it always 'the jews' with these trolls
20:11 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> its low-hanging-controversial fruit
20:11 BrBridge <c​lavi> CWz: common 4chan/altright lore
20:12 BrBridge <b​enrob0329> also yeah, they're the center of a lot of conspiracy theories
20:12 BrBridge <c​lavi> rubenwardy: TL;DR if Op is the sheriff, Half Op is the undersheriff
20:13 BrBridge <c​lavi> it's an underrated irc feature imo
20:14 BrBridge <c​lavi> even though every client and network I can think of supports it
20:14 BrBridge <l​uk3yx> Freenode and Libera don't
20:16 xerox123 im getting SASL only
20:17 xerox123 which is annoying because I can't connect to make a services account
20:18 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> irc.libera.chat/6667?
20:18 benrob0329 *confused "that doesn't help the libera channel" noises*
20:19 BrBridge <l​uk3yx> Hi xerox123
20:20 specing It's time for Africa
20:23 BrBridge <c​lavi> luk3yx: huh, til
20:24 BrBridge <e​poch> speak of the devil
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20:30 epoch this side of the bridge can't see why I said "speak of the devil"
20:30 epoch celeron55 joined. or someone that grabbed the nick.
20:31 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> You're in Discord or Freenode?
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20:31 BrBridge <e​poch> that's freenode epoch
20:33 MTDiscord <Yaya MNH48> you would see MTDiscord in addition if it was from discord
20:34 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> I'm on the Libera network, I see Freenode/Discord the same from here
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20:39 BrBridge <S​oni> benrob0329 removed the MTDiscord part
20:40 BrBridge <c​eleron55> what do you like those colors, on the freenode side we've tended to disable them but haven't done that here yet
20:41 sfan5 colors aren't disabled here fyi
20:41 sfan5 only in -dev I think
20:41 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> I like it
20:41 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> (WIll do my best not to abuse lol)
20:42 celeron55 wait what's the color disable flag
20:43 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> c I think
20:44 sfan5 +c
20:44 celeron55 -dev and -hub have it, this one doesn't
20:44 BrBridge <e​ntuland> nuuu
20:45 epoch 2,5colortest
20:45 BrBridge <e​poch> colortest
20:45 celeron55 colors are basically the emojis of IRC, in terms of annoyance
20:45 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> :P
20:46 BrBridge <e​poch> what are emojis in IRC then? mojibake most of the time?
20:46 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> My emoji plugin is brok
20:46 BrBridge <c​heapie> epoch: Mostly unrecognizable tiny symbols.
20:46 celeron55 if you need an emoji in IRC, you have to call the unicode consortium and ask them to add it
20:46 BrBridge <e​ntuland> isn't the color thingie necessary to have the bot use different colors for the names in the bridge's messages?
20:47 sfan5 ⛏️⛏️⛏️Minetest⛏️⛏️⛏️
20:47 BrBridge <e​poch> if it doesn't come from the unicode consortium it is just sparkly embedded image
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20:48 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> My client supports the nicer versions of them https://i.imgur.com/gJ6JRrX.png
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20:48 BrBridge <g​arywhite> I had no idea IRC even supported emojis
20:49 BrBridge <c​heapie> garywhite: IRC is just text and so are emojis, it would take extra effort to *not*.
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20:50 celeron55 these days IRC basically defines text as utf-8 (not really, but de-facto), and utf-8 includes emojis
20:51 MTDiscord <entuland> Lone_Wolf: yeah, mine too 😂
20:51 MTDiscord <entuland> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/845403341185744976/unknown.png
20:51 rubenwardy !rainbow unicorns
20:51 MinetestBot 4un7ic8or3ns
20:51 celeron55 !rainbow 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
20:51 MinetestBot 4😂😂7😂😂8😂😂3😂😂
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20:52 BrBridge <g​arywhite> cheapie: Ah okay, I guess I've just gotten spoiled on Discord, lol
20:52 celeron55 does someone's font rendering color those pickaxes?
20:52 sfan5 I have microsoft fonts installed so emojis render in color here, yes
20:52 sfan5 if they were grayscale !rainbow would probably work on them
20:52 BrBridge <e​ntuland> ⛏️⛏⛏️
20:53 epoch https://thebackupbox.net/~epoch/incoming/2021-05-21T20:51:28+00:00.png https://thebackupbox.net/~epoch/incoming/2021-05-21T20:52:43+00:00.png
20:53 sfan5 !rainbow ⛏⛏⛏⛏⛏⛏⛏
20:53 celeron55 my terminal font doesn't have the pickaxe so i get colorful boxes
20:53 MinetestBot 4⛏⛏7⛏⛏8⛏⛏3⛏
20:53 sfan5 yep
20:53 MTDiscord <entuland> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/845403890660409354/unknown.png
20:53 BrBridge <c​heapie> I have a color emoji font (but not an MS one) on here, and have IRC color codes disabled anyway.
20:53 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> Yeah, mine is in-font it seems
20:53 BrBridge <S​oni> ruby, greenium and sapphire pickaxes?
20:53 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> btw MinetestBot isn't registered here
20:53 celeron55 entuland: that's an epic rendering
20:54 BrBridge <e​ntuland> none of the above pickaxes went through as colored for me (but the ones I sent got colored for me as shown in the screenie)
20:54 BrBridge <L​one_Wolf> Does your client strip colors?
20:54 MTDiscord <entuland> mine does not
20:55 BrBridge <S​oni> bridge does(?)
20:55 celeron55 the bridge strips colors
20:55 celeron55 but uses them itself
20:55 celeron55 such a selfish bridge
20:55 MTDiscord <entuland> all the names sent by the bridge are getting colored for me on hexchat
20:55 MTDiscord <entuland> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/845404550160580638/unknown.png
21:01 epoch q/names
21:01 epoch derp
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21:08 BrBridge <r​ubywarden> libera is under DDoS currently, which is why there were disconnects earlier
21:09 BrBridge <s​fan5> official info or guess?
21:09 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> from #libera-dev
21:09 BrBridge <x​erox123> hello
21:09 Pexin unintentional ddos because too many new users all at once?
21:09 BrBridge <r​ubenwardy> bonjovi
21:10 BrBridge <[​0]> VanessaE: how's that OS upgrade going?
21:12 BrBridge <[​0]> There's that, but I'm not surprised to here they're getting a proper DDoS given how much abuse the network has been having in its first few days.
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21:16 * BrBridge <t​woelk> notices some discord server also under attack
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21:26 BrBridge <C​Wz> [0],  VanessaE is offline but she can be found on discord
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21:37 BrBridge <[​0]> CWz: Yeah, I know, I'm using the bridge.
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21:54 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> Please don't disable text formatting, its legitimately useful for expression (and also making the bridge look nice)
21:55 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> Disabling it because some people abuse it is like disabling all emojis because of your grandma.
21:58 MTDiscord <entuland> https://tenor.com/view/rage-grandma-angry-mad-throw-gif-15746344
21:58 MTDiscord <entuland> disables throwables because of grandma
21:59 BrBridge <e​ntuland> ah, the bridge doesn't yet convey the "/me doez ztuff" format
22:00 * luk3yx wonders if it does from IRC
22:00 * BrBridge <e​poch> hides from the bridge
22:00 epoch it treats it as just another message it looks like
22:00 * epoch tries other direction just to double-check
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22:09 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> fwiw, Discord /me msg is identical to _msg_, so IRC -> Discord just converts it to that, and Discord -> IRC doesnt bother changing it to * name msg
22:17 MTDiscord <entuland> ah yes, it's just a fancy italic in disguise here on Discord, I forgot about that
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23:27 AntumDeluge I'm looking at the mobs_redo code for examples on how to change player animation. I tried using "sit", like is done here ( https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_redo/src/8012250258243709e95ff178d62e6a069ef74afa/mount.lua#L174 ) but doesn't work for me. Any guesses as to why?
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