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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-03-17

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00:01 Wuzzy fun with wallmounted: https://satoshiupload.com/images/hvoXt1gIQw.png
00:06 Extexo Kroxk: could you help? It I couldn't seem to find any examples on it in devtest
00:06 Extexo Krock*
00:06 Extexo Missed the c lol
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01:07 Wuzzy Extexo: it is not possible to get rid of the underline
01:13 Extexo Oof
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03:18 mazes_80 since 5.4.0 I'm regularly hit by: src/inventorymanager.cpp :304 : virtual void IMoveAcntoryManager*, ServerActiveObject*, IGameDef*):  l'assertion « move_count <= count » a échoué.
03:19 mazes_80 just realised even error is translated: assert « move_count <= count » failed
03:21 mazes_80 I was moving things (farming:lettuce) from a regular chest to inventory
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09:48 sfan5 mazes_80: if you know the exact reproducction steps it'd be nice if you could report a bug on github
09:48 sfan5 this exact issue might also be fixed, though
09:48 sfan5 (in 5.5.0-dev, that is)
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10:18 Telesight Serverlist is repaired?
10:21 sfan5 looks repaired doesn't it
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10:48 Telesight Is that MultiCrap gone?
10:52 sfan5 4 of the popular servers are no longer announcing themselves due to what I assume a decision by their owner
10:53 sfan5 (or in other words: we have not removed any servers from the list ourselves)
10:59 Telesight Wise decision
11:04 MTDiscord <anon5> does anyone know why PROTOCOL_ID is 0x4f457403?
11:04 sfan5 !c "\x4f\x45\x74\x03"
11:04 MinetestBot 'OEt\x03'
11:05 sfan5 looks like any random number to me
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11:09 MTDiscord <anon5> The documentation on split packets says "If the data fails to come up in a reasonable time, the buffer shall be silently discarded."
11:09 MTDiscord <anon5> how long is reasonable?
11:10 sfan5 check the code
11:10 sfan5 src/network/connection.{cpp,h}
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11:17 MinetestBot [git] An0n3m0us -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix wield image for coral and kelp nodes (#2850) 0a90bd8 https://git.io/JmI1Q (2021-03-17T11:16:39Z)
11:17 MinetestBot [git] pauloue -> minetest/minetest_game: mtg_craftguide: Fix incorrect item tooltips 34bb232 https://git.io/JmI15 (2021-03-17T11:16:13Z)
11:17 MTDiscord <anon5> 30 seconds it looks like
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12:35 andrew How do I use worldedit to repeat place a block with a spacing in between?
12:36 * AndrewYu is attempting to automatically plant trees along roads
12:37 sfan5 is it okay if the space between the blocks is replaced too?
12:37 AndrewYu Yes
12:37 AndrewYu I mean, for example when T is tree sapling and A is air, like TAAAATAAAATAAAAT....
12:38 Telesight Andrew, is the road already there?
12:38 sfan5 you'd select region of [TAAAA] then and use //stack
12:39 AndrewYu Telesight: Yes, the road is already there
12:39 AndrewYu sfan5: I will try that
12:39 Telesight Ah pitty, I did that with a road with streetlights, take a part an copy it
12:41 Telesight Be carefull the part goes through existing objects
12:47 AndrewYu Thanks
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13:26 celeron55[m] I have confirmation from the VPS provider that the VPS is disconnected from the Internet due to DDoS
13:28 AndrewYu ?
13:29 mazes_80 sfan5: If I knew the exact way to reproduce the issue, it would be nice, for now it seems random (it ain't though)
13:32 AndrewYu Oof, I ran //stack and it stacked to the wrong direction, which is +x instead of -x
13:32 mazes_80 the only thing that is for sure: it happens only when I play a lot with increasing "handled" stack, mixing growing it by ten and one item(s)
13:32 AndrewYu Which for some reason crashed my server. Maybe I'm out of map bounds
13:34 mazes_80 when I finally put it in the other container, no more response from server until timeout (assert!!!)
13:36 mazes_80 my local server is not shared, at most 2 players are connected locally hopefully (if shared this may lead me to downgrade to 5.3)
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13:37 Telesight AndrewYU try to stack first with value 1, then you know which direction the whole thing is going
13:37 AndrewYu Yeah, i jsut found that out. Thx anyway!
13:37 hlqkj celeron55[m]: you mean the wiki and forum?
13:38 celeron55[m] The VPS hosts the forum and the wikis, yes
13:38 sfan5 mazes_80: sorry nevermind, the commit I thought of (which should fix this) went in before 5.4.0
13:39 hlqkj ok ty for the info. you guys are having such hard times these days... ty for your efforts
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16:10 celeron55[m] This sucks but MT having useful presence on multiple platforms is intentional and always prevents major catastrophes from happening. Certainly nobody got cut out from the community due to the forum and wikis not being available
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16:36 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> @AndrewYu (might be too late again and they left): You can use '?' as direction and it takes your current look direction instead
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16:46 eugenefil hi, in what cases /emergeblocks builtin should be used? I get it that blocks are emerged automatically anyway
16:47 sfan5 it can be used to pregenerate large areas of the map, if you wish to do so
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16:51 eugenefil aha, but will I notice it visually, the generation process? or those pregenerated large areas will just pop up instantly when I move close enough to them later?
16:52 eugenefil tried /emergeblocks, but visually nothing happens
16:53 sfan5 your don't need this in normal operation
16:53 sfan5 you*
16:54 eugenefil ok, got it, was just trying stuff, thanks
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16:57 MTDiscord <anon5> celeron55[m]: is 0x4f457403 (PROTOCOL_ID) just a random number?
16:59 celeron55[m] Not random, but it's meaningless in every other aspect than being unique
16:59 celeron55[m] It could be random
17:00 MTDiscord <anon5> but was it generated randomly or does it mean something?
17:00 celeron55[m] If it means something I don't know what
17:00 celeron55[m] But I don't remember how it was generated
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18:01 hisforever Hi Here is a pastbin https://pastebin.com/CBahpdF5   I need help ?
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18:16 IceDragon @hisforever Hard to say what happened there, I just looked at the source for that file on github (https://github.com/runsy/juanchi_game/blob/master/mods/explosions/init.lua#L65), it appears whatever it was checking had a snappy group value out of range
18:16 IceDragon and there is no fallback for out of range indices
18:20 IceDragon You should check that you're running the latest version of the game, and if that's true, then you can try filing a bug report along with steps to reproduce the problem to the mod creator and see if they'll fix it
18:26 hisforever thanks IceDragon
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18:35 mazes_80 if TenPlusOne lurks here: new flan recipe needs one more replacement -> {"farming:vanilla_extract", "vessels:glass_bottle"}
18:36 mazes_80 else I'll wait forum to be reachable
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18:58 calcul0n mazes_80, tenplus1 is generally on #minetest-hub, but we see him rarely
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21:24 MTDiscord <darcksama> my server can not enter in list 2021-03-17 18:16:35: ERROR[CurlFetch]: https://servers.minetest.net//announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 0) Any can helpe me? this started happening yesterday the whole connection here at home is normal, that seems to be the error of the minetest list website itself
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21:24 sfan5 ip of your server please
21:25 MTDiscord <darcksama> an moment
21:25 MTDiscord <darcksama> 192.168.15.13
21:25 sfan5 well that one is local to your network
21:26 sfan5 I'm wondering about the one other (external) users would enter to join it
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21:26 MTDiscord <darcksama> biglinux-minetest.ddns.net
21:27 MTDiscord <darcksama> have this too biglinux-minetest.ddns.net
21:27 sfan5 do you have serverlist_url set in your config?
21:28 MTDiscord <darcksama> yes everything is set up correctly, I have the server for an existing year, this problem happens to several users and so far there has been no resolution from within the minetest
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21:32 sfan5 should start working within the next 5 minutes
21:33 MTDiscord <darcksama> thank you so much! I will wait 😄
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21:40 MTDiscord <j45> shouldnt we change the description of the channel here: it says the serverlist is http://www.minetest.net/servers/ where it is actually https://servers.minetest.net
21:40 sfan5 both work
21:40 MTDiscord <j45> i guess
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21:42 MTDiscord <j45> but the latest version needs to be changed; it says "Latest version: 5.3.0 (2020-07-09)" but we have 5.4 now 😄
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21:42 sfan5 says " Latest version: 5.4.0 (2021-02-23) " on the IRC side
21:42 MTDiscord <Jonathon> dont complain about discord things in irc 🤦‍♂️ #meta-discussion
21:43 sfan5 well isn'T the bridge supposed to sync that?
21:43 MTDiscord <Jonathon> nope
21:43 MTDiscord <Jonathon> *at least i dont think so
21:43 MTDiscord <j45> what bridge is used here?
21:43 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Huh, good idea. Will add to my bridge todo.
21:43 MTDiscord <Jonathon> fixed
21:43 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Currently https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc is used
21:45 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> It works as a bridge but it is fairly lacking in features id like :/
21:53 MTDiscord <darcksama> thank you so much! it seems that everything has normalized, could you explain to me what really happened? I wonder
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21:55 sfan5 circumstances forced me to activate a DoS filter on the server list and you were accidentally caught in that
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22:05 MTDiscord <darcksama> ok when that happens let the forum users know and post on twitter, many people shut down their servers forever for not being able to solve the problem, even thanks a lot! for helping 🙏
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22:39 ar10ch I thought the incredibly insulting "!docs" RTFM attitude of some members of this group would be the final straw.. but I stress myself and persevere.. now I've had enough. Being dictated to by snotty-nosed little shits with no self control - too many servers run by brats. I wanted to create a great world that would be safe for all, fun and engaging. But it seems that the minetest world does not necessarily attract the best of
22:39 ar10ch ppl. I don't like ppl but I make an effort. I really try. And it wears me out. I may release my projects instead of running a server but they wont be maintained, maybe not even finished. I need to draw a line and move on.
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22:43 sfan5 I'd be interested to hear where you encountered that attitude, I hear of such things rarely
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22:44 MTDiscord <Warr1024> It's not like anyone in the MT community, even its developers and leaders, have the power to dictate how everyone who uses MT behaves.
22:44 ar10ch on this occasion it was on pandorabox but i'm off.
22:45 ar10ch and apparently they do.. silly thing to say
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22:47 sfan5 weird
22:49 MTDiscord <Jonathon> odd, the people on pandoras box are pretty knowledgeable and helpful any time i have asked
22:51 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Disputes with server admins are not uncommon, and sometimes your experience with some folks will be different than others'.  Sometimes people just aren't predisposed to get along with each other, and sometimes it just doesn't seem like it's worth the effort to bridge that gap.
22:52 sfan5 (they left already)
22:53 MTDiscord <Warr1024> (I wonder if there's some kind of limit on ragequits :-/ )
22:53 MTDiscord <Jonathon> heh
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23:54 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> I'm so confused, why would someone abandon all of their personal projects for the attitudes in one small section of the community?
23:55 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> I get disliking some people (I think we all dislike at least one person in every community) but to ragequit over it? That seems like there's more to the story than just one server.

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