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Sven_vB |
in a server-side LUA mod, how can I check players' positions? All I can find is minetest.get_player_information() but its result doesn't have position. |
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rubenwardy |
get_pos() on a player's object |
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rubenwardy |
You can get a player object from callbacks, from get_player_by_name, or get_connected_players |
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Sven_vB |
thanks! |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Players are also entities, so most functions that work for entities work for players. Hence this works: local player = minetest.get_player_by_name("name) Local pos = player:get_pos() |
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Sven_vB |
oh I see, I had looked for data props but not methods |
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Sven_vB |
thanks! |
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rubenwardy |
Players and entities are both objects |
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rubenwardy |
Players aren't entities |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Well true. My bad, I said it wrong |
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Griff555 |
Hey people |
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Griff555 |
Anybody knows shivajiva? |
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Griff555 |
Shiva |
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nephele |
Sven_vB_: mods can open files afaik, so you might be able to construct a chatacter device to write into and have that be executed |
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nephele |
not sure if you really want to implement the whole TTY protocol in lua though... |
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Sven_vB |
thanks, I'll make a character device connected to my TTY and try to make LUA use that as a file. |
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nephele |
Just be aware that TTY has lots of warts ;) |
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nephele |
running lua code from the chat, or from a device should be fairly easy though, this is how i did it : https://git.gryphno.de/neplevitan/minetest-gamemode-orion/src/branch/master/mods/sparkdebug/lua/chat.lua |
| 15:33 |
nephele |
you could also register a chat command that starts a "interceptor" state for the chat, which then adds all your subsequent messages to a lua script untill you write EOF, or a command to exit or so |
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nephele |
then you can use line based writing in the chat |
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Sven_vB |
maybe there's a misunderstanding, I don't want to implement a TTY. I'll probably just run screen in the tty and have that screen connect to the character device. |
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nephele |
If you run TTY on one side, but not the other you will get garbage on the lua end |
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nephele |
e.g if you use right cursor button in your TTY the character device will get some wierd escape sequences, and if you don't handle them it will assume that it is lua code |
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Sven_vB |
oh I remember, that thing I called TTY really is called a virtual console |
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nephele |
TTY is a protocol, of a "real" console ;), just that it's now virtual ones |
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Sven_vB |
good call, I'd better add rlwrap to the mix so I can edit my command more easily. |
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Sven_vB |
or maybe I should use minicom instead of screen |
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nephele |
using the chat seems far easier, but it will be interesting what you come up with :) |
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Sven_vB |
well, I guess figuring out the human side of the chardev is off-topic here |
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Sven_vB |
well, for rlwrap I'd need a shell anyway, so I'll just use socat with readline on the interactive side. |
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nephele |
problem with repl is that you basically need to implement the repl yourself, since you can't just call the lua repl |
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nephele |
unless lua has somehow exposed this from luaspace |
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Sven_vB |
chat would be an option but it's displayed in my game console, that's too noisy. |
| 15:40 |
nephele |
You can also display it on the hud or so ;) |
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nephele |
or a formspec, or so |
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Sven_vB |
I was thinking of just pcall eval each line read |
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nephele |
that is kinda what this does: https://git.gryphno.de/neplevitan/minetest-gamemode-orion/src/branch/master/mods/sparkdebug/lua/tablet.lua |
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nephele |
just that it doesn't print the output on the formspec, maybe i'll add that... and multiline editing, at some point |
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nephele |
eh... maybe |
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Sven_vB |
I'm trying to make the REPL in a way that least interferes with normal gameplay |
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nephele |
well, formspec and chat are basically the only two ingame input methods you have for text |
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nephele |
other than that, the character device, but you have to figure out yourself how you want your client and server (luaspace) to look :) |
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Sven_vB |
a pair of fifos probably is even easier. rlwrap sh -c 'cat -- repl.out & cat >>repl.in; wait' |
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Sven_vB |
how do I find other player's position in a CSM? I'd like to make my "camera" bot's view follow other players |
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Krock |
minetest.localplayer:get_pos().y + minetest.camera:get_offset().y |
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Krock |
^ Sven_vB |
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Sven_vB |
oh thanks, that's indeed a better way to detect my own head's position. |
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Sven_vB |
still, how do I track other players' characters? |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
1. you can't |
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Krock |
2. ???? |
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Krock |
3. it's not implemented yet due to security/cheating concerns |
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Sven_vB |
3 sounds plausible |
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Sven_vB |
I wish players in the devs' bubble would be as nice and fun-loving people as my friends are, then we could have such a nice game with so many useful features. |
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* Krock |
looks at the 8447 line long lua_api.txt |
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imi |
hi. is there anything I can do to get this eventually accepted: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/9959 ? |
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Krock |
by causing noise like you did just now |
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Sven_vB |
Krock, not client_lua_api? |
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Krock |
Sven_vB: well yeah, but there's likely not much hope because everything else could be abused for unfair gameplay |
| 17:15 |
Sven_vB |
Krock, I know. thus I'm writing tools to circumvent those futile attempts prevent the useful features |
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Sven_vB |
the more it annoys me, the more I tend to just take the good parts and make my own game, but currently I still have some hope that I might be able to share my nice features with original MineTest's players |
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imi |
is this related to my patch or have I dropped in the middle of an ongoing conversation? |
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sfan5 |
latter |
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Krock |
imi: "by causing noise like you did just now". for you. The PR implements a feature that's currently not a common workflow (changing MT internals or settings using CSM-style) |
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Krock |
hence stirring up some mud might help a bit |
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imi |
you know, since I know CPP and I wanted this feature I felt it would be ready earlier if I implemented it myself |
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imi |
maybe I'll redo the patch once 5.4.0 is out |
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imi |
s/patch/pull request/ |
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imi |
ok thank you for the info guys |
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Krock |
yw |
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Sven_vB |
with the func callback of minetest.register_chatcommand, how do I get the name of the player that sent it? in the example, the function seems to receive just the command arguments. |
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rubenwardy |
the first argument is `name` |
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Sven_vB |
then the short parameter description params = "<name> <privilege>", is misleading |
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TomTom |
hmm today I had massive sync problems with one client... messages like this "WARNING[ConnectionSend]: con(14/1) Packet quota used up for peer_id=11, was 256 pkts" on client and serverside. also many of this "ACTION[Server]: Server: Player moved too fast: V=0, H=170.839; resetting position." |
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Krock |
yes. networking sucks. |
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TomTom |
anything what the client or server can do about this? whats the bottleneck here? |
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Krock |
the server could try to increase the setting max_packets_per_iteration to 4096 or higher, although it would only delay the issue |
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Krock |
the client would then still need to process the packets to not get this error, as well as the server |
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Sven_vB |
do whe have a mod with palm trees that have actual flat-ish palm leaves, rather than full blocks? |
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Krock |
be the first to write a mod for it |
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TomTom |
Krock: so the client is the problem here, because he can not process the amount of packets in time? |
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Krock |
if the client gets the same errors, then it's either due to a lossy connection and/or bad networking code |
| 19:26 |
Krock |
there was a little change in this regard in 5.3.0 (IIRC). the difference to before is basically this additional logged message which was silent previously |
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Krock |
as long the client/server can catch up with the packet queue there should be no issue. Random time-outs and disconnects would be concerning. |
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TomTom |
the client is an old x86, maybe its the cause... |
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Krock |
architecture does not matter, unless it's a Pentium 3 machine which might suffer from severe lack of FPS |
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Krock |
and computational power in all other regards |
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Sven_vB |
in 5.3.0, in the content browser, when I search for "hard_trees_redo"/"All Packages", why does it not find https://content.minetest.net/packages/Hamlet/hard_trees_redo/ ? |
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sfan5 |
I assume it's because there's no downloads |
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Sven_vB |
oh. indeed. w00t |
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Pharsalos |
Why is this so dead |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> lol |
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Pharsalos |
This game used to be on fire |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> the irc channel is about normal activity |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> see logs in irc.minetest.net |
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Pharsalos |
Is there a chat thing? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> chat thing? |
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Pharsalos |
Also |
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Pharsalos |
Do u know Shivajiva? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> i know who they are |
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Pharsalos |
Really? |
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Pharsalos |
Im looking for him |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> and spoke to them once in passing? |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> the most important part: do you know where he lives? |
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Pharsalos |
Does he have a server again? |
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Pharsalos |
Dam i miss old times |
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Pharsalos |
I used to come here as a kid playing and chatting |
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Pharsalos |
Dam |
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Pharsalos |
This thing is paranoid about robots |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14960&p=233722 says its closed |
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Pharsalos |
Yeah i actually seen this |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> acording to github, last seen oct 11, 2020 |
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Pharsalos |
But the last tweet was like 3 years ago now |
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Pharsalos |
Well i just wanted to say hello to him |
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Pharsalos |
And told him i wont forget the memories there |
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Pharsalos |
Or here |
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Pharsalos |
I will also thank you Jonathon here |
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Pharsalos |
Because i dont know which one was where you sent the messages |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> np |
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Sven_vB |
when a seed consists of just digits, is it hashed at all? |
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sfan5 |
don't think so |
