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00:59 hisforever Hi I'm trying o build a factory. How do I set up My sourting tubs?  https://imgur.com/a/cHeWaHQ
01:00 hisforever is there a url to explain the sorting tubs?
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01:12 Hawk777 Sure, the mod’s homepage has some info: https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/-/wikis/home#mese-sorting-tubes
01:40 hisforever Hawk777: Thanks I've been looking for a long time for this info:)
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05:46 hecks I'm working on a server that's going to host an original game made just for it. Where on the forum do I post about it? The server isn't live yet, but hopefully will be soon.
05:53 rubenwardy Servers
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06:29 hecks Even though it isn't live yet?
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13:06 mazes_81 hi all, I used to play on a server named "Elidragon skyblock", but since some weeks it seems off
13:07 mazes_81 does somebody know who made/maintained this server, I would be interested in fetching sources, as I found it really nice
13:13 Krock no idea
13:17 mazes_81 ok, found it on Fleckenstein github
13:18 mazes_81 sorry for the noise
14:04 daiNoZord Is there a Linux 32bit version of Minetest available that's reasonably up-to-date?
14:14 Krock daiNoZord: no, but if you ask me very gently I might build you one for Ubuntu 18.04 on my old laptop
14:14 Krock at least not that I know of.
14:14 Krock assuming you already checked https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
14:14 Krock or comparable repositories, depending on your distro
14:16 daiNoZord Is it case of compiling on a 32bit machine? would a VM do? It's for my lads pc but I don't have access to that. Just got him Puppy to try to revive an ancient windows box
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14:26 Krock VM or cross-compiling is possible
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14:34 daiNoZord Thanks Krock - I found a i386 .deb on the link you posted. Didn't find that in my search. Hopefully that'll do it :)
14:34 Krock good luck!
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16:26 ura Hello, i am a new user of World Edit, i make a repetitive movement and i try to use World Edit to make that faster, but when i try to use the "//save" command, the game gets back to menu and give me an error message "nil value", can someone help me?
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16:43 Krock hi. would you like to export a map section to the server's files?
16:44 Krock it would be helpful to have the whole error message to figure out what exactly is going wrong (pastebin, paste.debian.net etc)
16:47 Krock ^ ura
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17:42 ura yes, sorry i was afk, the message is: https://framabin.org/p/?1af3f7176c8d6391#cn+R+viRNOOrW+HjszHRN9A+I6NXpX7u5RhIWwNcJn0=
17:44 Krock original source: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/worldedit_commands/init.lua#L859
17:44 Krock there's no mention of "execute", hence I'd recommend to update WE first and retry. perhaps it has already been fixed
17:46 ura OK, I'll try, but I'm using Debian packaged version, so this might not be uptodate
17:46 ura Thanks, btw
17:47 Krock please don't install mods using distro repositories. instead, consider using git clone or the integrated content manager to download mods
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17:48 Krock it might be an easy solution, but the mods will be somewhat outdated after a while
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18:37 ura sure, but on the other side, the stability brought by the distro somehow counts!
18:37 ura thanks for your help, btw.
18:38 Krock !next
18:38 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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19:51 tango_ hm is it just me or there is no way to have two favorite servers?
19:53 tango_ if I connect to a server adding its IP manually, and then connect to a new ona again adding it manually, the old one isn't listed anymore
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19:55 Krock it should. perhaps it's a bug.
19:55 Krock seen similar reports already. please check the issue tracker
19:56 tango_ Krock: let me see
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20:29 rubenwardy tango_, Krock: I have a PR open to fix this. In the meantime, delete client/favorites.txt (whatever it's called) and try again
20:29 rubenwardy it happens when the file is corrupted
20:29 rubenwardy PR: #10085
20:29 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10085 -- Use JSON for favorites, move server list code to Lua by rubenwardy
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21:35 tango_ rubenwardy: I'll check, thanks
21:36 tango_ hm why can't I put a torch on a boat 8-/
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22:35 biggvs_richardvs Hi all. New to channel, been a minetest fan for years
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22:36 hecks hi =]
22:37 biggvs_richardvs Just curious - is there a list of games that are known to work well with 5.3 or whatever the latest stable is?
22:37 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> basically all of them
22:37 biggvs_richardvs I keep finding these cames that crash with 5.3
22:37 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> new versions are nearly always backwards compatible. What games and what errors?
22:37 biggvs_richardvs I tried the Zelda thened one, but it crashes every time some particular weather gets invoked
22:38 hecks And it works in 5.2?
22:38 biggvs_richardvs No that crashed too
22:38 biggvs_richardvs I had to go back to 5.1.1 I think
22:38 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> because likely it's been broken since 0.4 haha
22:38 biggvs_richardvs Also this one
22:38 biggvs_richardvs https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9184
22:38 biggvs_richardvs "Adventuretest"
22:39 biggvs_richardvs Won't even start on anything but 5.0.x
22:39 biggvs_richardvs Runs on 4.x but then my 5.3 client can't connect
22:39 hecks My guess would be that things on ContentDB would at least be somewhat up to date
22:40 biggvs_richardvs I've build like 4 versions of MT from source under the same subdirectory, so I can easily switch between versions for the server
22:40 biggvs_richardvs Happy to drop the error messages when they crash if it would help
22:41 hecks You're better off dropping them to the maintainers of those respective games
22:41 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> that's generally best. Github or gitlab issues
22:41 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> not minetest
22:41 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> we don't maintain mods or games in github/minetest
22:41 biggvs_richardvs Ya. Unfortunately adventuretest looks like nobody has looked at it since 2012
22:41 biggvs_richardvs Zelda 2016
22:41 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> could maybe upload/fork them and someone could get around to it?
22:41 biggvs_richardvs I could be mistaken. Just going by most recent post on the game board
22:42 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> Shouldn't be too hard to update them
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22:43 biggvs_richardvs MTDiscord sounds like a worthy thing when I'm able
22:43 hecks Well if the game is abandoned and you want it for your server, maybe you can try patching it up yourself.
22:43 hecks Ideally games shouldn't break but stuff happens
22:43 biggvs_richardvs Ya, might be a bit past my skill level. Can anyone recommend a cool game or know known to work well with 5.3
22:44 biggvs_richardvs err I can type
22:44 hecks exile is cool =]
22:44 biggvs_richardvs ok thank you I'll give it a go
22:44 hecks oh but right, it's not prepared for multiplayer
22:44 hecks I forgot, the one server that ran it had a guy who patched it specifically for that
22:45 biggvs_richardvs ugh. The minetest forum is in maintenance mode
22:45 hecks yup
22:45 hecks I do have some advice for you though
22:45 biggvs_richardvs Do you happen to have a link to github for exile?
22:45 hecks uhhhh well it should be on contentdb
22:45 sfan5 !mod exile
22:45 biggvs_richardvs yes @hecks?
22:45 MinetestBot sfan5: Exile 0.2.1 by Dokimi - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=24334 - https://github.com/DokimiCU/Exile
22:45 sfan5 uhh that one I guess?
22:45 biggvs_richardvs Thank you!
22:45 hecks but once again, I forgot that multiplayer is iffy on that and you'd have to ask a guy named Gundul for a fixed up version
22:46 hecks of course it's just my personal taste, the game might not be everybody's fancy
22:46 hecks anyway my advice is, you don't always need to install a fancy game to run a cool server
22:46 biggvs_richardvs Sure.  Happy to try it out
22:46 hecks one of the best servers ever in MT was an almost vanilla server with some crude mobs and no biomes
22:47 hecks it's the fact that there were no biomes, no soil and no trees that made it interesting, the mobs were the only source of biomass
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22:48 hecks and despite the absolute poverty, players managed to make an entire city in that wasteland, with their own hands
22:50 daiNoZord can anyone help with a compiling minetest question?
22:50 hecks yup?
22:50 hecks go ahead daiNoZord
22:51 daiNoZord thanks - i ran make & its looking for ftbuild2 in the wrong place - can i change that? on ubuntu
22:51 daiNoZord sorry ft2build
22:51 hecks I guess that's freetype
22:52 daiNoZord yeah - its installed
22:52 hecks and I think there's an option you can pass to cmake to override the location of that
22:52 hecks not sure, let me check
22:53 sfan5 what is "the wrong place" and how did you determine that?
22:53 daiNoZord its not in include but in freetype2 dir
22:54 hecks try FREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIR_ft2build
22:54 sfan5 usuaally cmake searches the right path on its own, or did you override those?
22:54 sfan5 usually*
22:54 hecks like -DFREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIR_ft2build=(path)
22:55 daiNoZord is that after make -j$(nproc) ?
22:55 hecks no, when you invoke cmake
22:55 hecks you have to run cmake first
22:55 hecks then make
22:56 hecks and if you didn't run cmake, well then, just do that and it'll probably work
22:56 hecks if you need cmake to do anything differently, here are the options
22:56 hecks https://github.com/minetest/minetest#cmake-options
22:58 guest2 Will minetest ever be able to compete with minecraft java?
22:59 daiNoZord i ran cmake first - been tryna get this far all day - now running cmake it says  /usr/include/freetype2 does not appear to contain cmakelists.txt
23:03 sfan5 guest2: in terms of game experience and features, likely not anytime soon or never
23:06 guest2 Sfan5: how about performance?
23:07 hecks guest2: minetest already wins because it's free software and continues to evolve
23:07 sfan5 it does already run better than Minecraft (java) on some configurations, particularily low end
23:07 sfan5 daiNoZord: if you set an option do not put a space between the name, = and value
23:08 hecks I heard that java MC runs on a single thread, and "mods" are very hackily implemented
23:09 daiNoZord sfan: thanks - im tryin again now. got up to 77% then new issues - ill persevere
23:09 biggvs_richardvs Exile just crashed too
23:10 biggvs_richardvs 2020-12-06 15:04:53: ACTION[Main]: Server: Shutting downMegamorph time overhead: 0.0710912020-12-06 15:04:54: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'bed_rest' in callback on_leaveplayer(): Invalid position (expected table got boolean).
23:10 hecks ah, friggin megamorph
23:10 hecks never mind that recommendation
23:10 biggvs_richardvs :D
23:10 MTDiscord <J​onathon> can try nodecore, that should work on 5.3
23:10 hecks I really like the game but some mods it uses are very poorly coded
23:10 biggvs_richardvs It did look pretty cool
23:10 hecks megamorph in particular, it's the dungeon generator
23:10 biggvs_richardvs Ahh ok
23:10 MTDiscord <J​onathon> also repixture should work on 5.3
23:10 hecks if you really want to see it work though
23:10 hecks ask Gundul for a working version because he sort of fixed it
23:11 hecks keep in mind that megamorph is so slow that one person exploring the dungeons can lag the whole server
23:11 biggvs_richardvs Ok. I don't know Gundui, but if I see him I'll ask
23:11 biggvs_richardvs Ahh ok
23:12 biggvs_richardvs Sounds pretty cool though - do you know of a game or mod with megamorph that works with 5.3?  I can also fire up 5.1.1 or any of the 5.x  versions if that would help
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23:23 daiNoZord whoo! works :)
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23:54 tango_ I never managed to understand how to place corner stairs
23:54 tango_ it's nearly impossible to get it right on the first try
23:54 tango_ a screwdriver is essential BUT you need iron for it ...
23:55 specing If only iron wasn't so hard to find...

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