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Flitzpiepe |
hello everyone |
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SoylentCow |
hi Flitzpiepe |
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Vagabond[m] |
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tango_ |
OK published my dowsing mod code so far |
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tango_ |
going to need some thorough redesign to be really useful though |
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tango_ |
ow gawd I forgot my screenshots are huge 8-/ |
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tango_: is that your first mod? Congrats! |
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tango_ |
Vagabond[m]: first mod, not first programming experience ;-) |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> made dual wielding a thing |
| 05:03 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/771962520125571072/Screenshot_at_2020-10-30_18-07-26.png |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Krock, i still remember that one discussion we had about dual wielding. Well here is a proof of concept :) |
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MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> isnt fleckenstein also trying to implement dual-wielding? |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> ye |
| 05:23 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> (s)he is |
| 05:23 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> its a he |
| 05:23 |
MTDiscord |
<srinivas> but, i expect it would need a fleckenstien server and client to do |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> or a pr to get accepted |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> which may or may not happen |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Made dual wielding without touching core tbh. Lol |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> heh, depending on changes made by jordach's pr eh? |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> It works like a charm on jord's pr. Though without it, it wont be visible on 1st person |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> oh, nice |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> And for npcs, they got multi wield capabilities |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Just in case for 4 or 8 arm mobs |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> niceee |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Here, lol |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/771968835959521300/Screenshot_at_2020-10-30_16-01-41.png |
| 05:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/771968836198334464/Screenshot_at_2020-10-29_15-11-30.png |
| 05:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Hmm, wrong code X) |
| 05:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Fixed |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/771969102972583936/Screenshot_at_2020-10-30_16-06-16.png |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> nicee |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> licensed yet? |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> gplv3 at the moment |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> I'll be making a standalone version of this npc framework which would be MIT |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> mhm |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> might i recommend sspl |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> sspl sounds good |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> lol, ik, poor folks at mongodb |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Though the version above is specifically for the legacy forge game |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> mhm |
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blaise |
does the in game online conent browser make account for minetest version compatability, or is the lua modding api not version independent? |
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tango_ |
the real question is, does dual-yielding allow items to specify they need twohands? |
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tango_ |
for example, my dowsing rods would need two hands |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> tango_ will this answer your question? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369123175583186964/771940590711078922/Dual_Wield.mp4 |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/771993291482857482/Screenshot_at_2020-10-30_18-14-53.png |
| 07:08 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> A more practical method would be using a slot format with inventory so you can dual wield with any item. Although this one is more simplistic |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> And encourages dual wield item crafting |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Having two hands involves messing around core |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> So leave such implementation to the core devs |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Though they have more important things to tackle before even considering implementing such a feature |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> The best we can do is make dual wield attachments. And with this pr. It will make things alot easier https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/10360 |
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tango_ |
I'm not sure that video shows what I mean |
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tango_ |
but maybe ye |
| 07:19 |
tango_ |
I'll have to look at it some time later |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Two hands as in the builtin wield item on 1st person correct? |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> If that's the case, that requires a feature via core. |
| 07:26 |
tango_ |
yeah |
| 07:26 |
tango_ |
the idea is that if the user is wielding a two-handed item in one hand, it cannot wield a second item in the other |
| 07:27 |
tango_ |
of course ideally visually the item should go from one hand to the other too |
| 07:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Sounds like core stuff. |
| 07:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> The PR above allows us to show attached items on first person |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Which you can try to make a workaround with that |
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tango_ |
that's too far ahead for me currently ;-) |
| 07:32 |
tango_ |
ok I have a question about the modding API; do the settings appear anywhere in the UI? or is it just for stuff that can be configured in the .conf file? |
| 07:33 |
tango_ |
(I mean at least for singleplayer) |
| 07:35 |
* blaise |
bursts in to flames |
| 07:36 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Puts out the fire with water |
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* blaise |
's fire grows hotter and more intense |
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blaise |
hydrogen and oxygen are fuel... |
| 07:37 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Grabs Thanos's gauntlet and erases the fire from existance with a single snap |
| 07:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Blais3> that's fake news |
| 07:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Blais3> and you should know this |
| 07:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Blais3> https://tenor.com/view/funny-lol-lmao-smile-happy-gif-16457588 |
| 07:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Blais3> sips his coffee |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> What do you mean? |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> lol |
| 07:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Blais3> Thanos is a false representation of an individual from an ancient civilisation of highly advanced species.. |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> Can't you take a joke? :P |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> the individual acfually represented themself as Thanatos.. |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> we will probably never know their actual designation |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> I can take a joke, I'm just rather offended by the contamination of the marvel commics by such malarky |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> before this thanos character was manufactured, the series was very good.. |
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tango_ |
isn't thanatos death? |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> eh, not exactly |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/772003907399581706/giphy_2.gif |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> Thanatos was tasked with the undertaking of apothecary to the upper counsel and higher socialites of the ancient Greek.. |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> a mortician, basically |
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<Blais3> known to be responsible for the ones whom died calmly |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> there were others how ever whom would hold service to those who died violent deaths.. be it by crime or battle.. |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> Thanatos specialized in taking great care to not spread what ever may have caused the indivituals deaths to the rest of the populace.. |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> heh |
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MTDiscord |
<srinivas> TIL moment eh |
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<Blais3> he had a brother whom would visit those suffering and cause sleep, but would also cause sleep to those who didn't.. they worked as a team |
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<Blais3> their sisters were the ones who handled those that died of a violent means |
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<Blais3> ancient greek can be very difficult to enterpret.. |
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<Blais3> when the language was originally givin translation to ther languages there was very little comprehencion of the professions in those cultures.. so the translations are kind of misleading |
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<Blais3> our current comprehension would suggest that it was a family practice... |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> probably appointed to them by Nyx.. |
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<Blais3> the sisters took the role of handeling those whom died a violent death when the need arose from the devisation which Erebus brought forth |
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<Blais3> which later caused Chronos to be more motivated to destroy his creations and start anew |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> well, he had a great many reasons to destroy his childeren.. Erebos was just tossing more fuel on the fire at that point |
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<Blais3> quite possibly out of spite for his siblings.. |
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tango_ |
the real question though is: is there a way to rotate the wield item around the axis which is orthogonal to the screen? |
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tango_ |
I mean in the wield_item spe |
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tango_ |
spec |
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blaise |
tango_: yes. |
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tango_ |
blaise: hm I've tried the transforms documented here without much success https://dev.minetest.net/texture |
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MTDiscord |
<Blais3> cool, glad you're finding what you need |
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blaise |
I'm very sure someone will come along who has more experience in the matter that can help you.. only a matter of time before someone sees the logs |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> blaise: no |
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<appguru> except if generating the models yourself and wasting node IDs |
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tango_ |
hm is there a hook on the user changing item and/or one on the user taking a step? |
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tango_ |
hm looks like I don't need it |
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specing |
tango_: probably the only way is get_wield_index in globalstep? |
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tango_ |
specing: well for my purposes I can just check the name if it changes. the effect not triggering when switching to a different item w/ the same name is acceptable |
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specing |
tango_: look at how the torch mods do it |
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specing |
tango_: also play MP |
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tango_ |
specing: torch mods? |
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specing |
... |
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tango_ |
for MP, I keep a table with per-player last-pos/last-tool, so each checks against its own |
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tango_ |
specing: this one? https://github.com/minetest-mods/torches |
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specing |
No, I mean *you* go and *play* MP |
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specing |
would expand your horizons by a lot |
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tango_ |
oh you mean game-wise 8-) |
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rubenwardy |
blaise: yes, contentdb has version checking. You'll only see stuff that supports your version in mt |
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rubenwardy |
tango_: see setting types.txt, mods can use it to add settings to all settings |
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tango_ |
rubenwardy: I know, I did that, but I don't see them in th UI? |
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rubenwardy |
It's at the bottom of the all settings dialog |
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rubenwardy |
Under your mod namd |
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tango_ |
rubenwardy: ooooh found it thanks! |
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tango_ |
shows that I implemented settingtypes correctly ;-) |
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tango_ |
rubenwardy: btw that's a part that is missing from your tutorial 8-) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Fix segfault in deprecation logging due to tail call, log by default … 89dd05f https://git.io/JTHwQ (2020-10-31T18:19:23Z) |
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dianshi |
iho ho ho |
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<Jordach> kilbith now you understand why i despise "that guy" |
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<Genshin> https://tenor.com/view/respect-davis-boreanaz-salute-uniform-gif-11216021 |
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