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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Add 'ores' global mapgen flag (#10276) 4ba5046 https://git.io/JUOYT (2020-09-03T00:28:40Z) |
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specing |
Was the viewmode (F7) key changed? |
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specing |
I can no longer switch to 3rd person mode |
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rubenwardy |
C |
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rubenwardy |
or V |
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rubenwardy |
I don't agree with the change, but whatever |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> It |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> 's nice when you can't see your keyboard like me |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> Although I guess I'll eventually form proper typing habits and be able to reach that consistently without mistakes |
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muhdnurhidayat |
I actually read the IRC chat on discord but not replying there as the bridge would put up my username instead of nickname |
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muhdnurhidayat |
anyway |
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muhdnurhidayat |
Copenhagen_Bram : weblate actually do add custom language or script, you just need to contact them with details about it |
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muhdnurhidayat |
like I'm the one who requested addition of "Malay (Jawi)" on weblate (coded as ms_Arab) because I need that for some projects |
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muhdnurhidayat |
once Weblate add it then you can go the usual process of translating Minetest |
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muhdnurhidayat |
when looking through all languages available on Weblate, there are indeed few more custom language on it, including English Rude (en rude) |
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muhdnurhidayat |
also lojban do have language code : jbo |
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muhdnurhidayat |
Toki Pona has requested for language code but it was denied, twice, one for code mis, the other for code tok |
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muhdnurhidayat |
reason being it's too small (ik that's kinda bad reason as language is language, but it is what it is) |
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muhdnurhidayat |
small as in too few people using it |
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SoylentCow |
the remap was pointless, imho, but in the end, moot, who cares, right? though i could swear i had a weird update glitch on one host, where it should have remapped, but somehow it didn't, something with config |
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SoylentCow |
what really stood out for me, personally, is how build-in-place config is in build dir, not in ~/.minetest , am i not misinformed? |
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Krock |
I think you meant RUN_IN_PLACE? |
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SoylentCow |
i don't do caps |
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SoylentCow |
but yeah |
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Krock |
well, that's its entire purpose. if you want to use the system file structure, then don't use RUN_IN_PLACE |
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SoylentCow |
but |
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Krock |
because that will make Minetest use the files that are around the binary |
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SoylentCow |
we want it all and we want it NOW! |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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dievri |
hello. function minetest.get_current_modname() return nil inside minetest.register_on_joinplayer(). Is this should be this way? |
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Krock |
hi yes |
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Krock |
use "debug." functions to figure out whether it's really executed within your mod, or hooked by another |
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dievri |
thanks, sorted out) |
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mangul |
Can someone please tell me in what situation(s) server does not send RemoveNode message to a client? |
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dievri |
how to make entity placed in air to fall? |
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mangul |
Guys, Is it a good idea to ping celeron or some other core developer about this matter? |
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Krock |
mangul: #minetest-dev is probably the best place |
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dievri |
I'm trying to put entity in space when the player in joined and make entity fall. But the entity is not falling https://github.com/dievri/minetest/blob/master/practicemod/init.lua Do I missing some properties? |
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mangul |
Krock, But you said that channel is not about related projects |
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oil_boi |
dievri, you need to add an on_activate set_acceleration vector to the entity |
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oil_boi |
The initial creation of an entity as defined in the source code gives the entity an attached acceleration vector of (0,0,0) |
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oil_boi |
A simple addition of this will help: https://github.com/dievri/minetest/pull/1 |
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oil_boi |
Acceleration vs Velocity as per the source code is that the acceleration vector smoothly changes the velocity, where as applying the velocity per server step will create jerky movement |
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oil_boi |
This needs to be handled accordingly if you want this to sharply change direction or smoothly change direction, you can use both when each effect is desired |
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oil_boi |
Also keep in mind that if the object is moving extremely fast, the movement vs the actual client movement may appear different as the objects in the server are interpolated to give the effect that the object is moving very smoothly |
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oil_boi |
Also part 2, keep in mind if you set the acceleration vector too high in any direction you can actually crash the server from a float/integer overflow. I've forgotten which of these primitives the engine uses |
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dievri |
thank you, now it's working |
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oil_boi |
No problemo |
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Krock |
mangul: oh. I thought you were talking about the Minetest engine |
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Krock |
I think Q&A about the internals of Minetest fits into -dev. Though specific questions about other projects don't. |
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Krock |
mangul: check out server.cpp -> Server::sendRemoveNode this function is called by map events (player dug node) |
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Krock |
minetest.remove_node triggers it |
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Krock |
to be fair, this could easily be replaced by minetest.set_node air |
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Krock |
only difference is that the "on_construct" callback isn't attempted to run for remove_node |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> oil_boi: -9.81 |
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shangul |
Krock, Thanks. |
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oil_boi |
Actually appguru -9.81000000000000000000000001 heh heh heh |
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MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> oil_boi: doesn't that take a vector? |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> oil_boi: -9.81000000000000000000000001 == -9.81 |
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oil_boi |
in cpp -9.81 != -9.81000000000000000000000001 |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> That's it I'm coming in here boi |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> U done goofed now |
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rubenwardy |
does floating acurracy matter here? |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Only if we're programming dna simulations, because what generates proteins can now give you spider powers |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> I was talking Lua |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> https://tenor.com/view/moana-delete-maui-delete-this-gif-15101621 |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> As Lua uses doubles I doubt C++ would be able to offer higher precision? |
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rubenwardy |
Taking g as 9.81 is also silly when you don't have air resistance or whatever |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Yes use 10 and let it get crazy |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Well |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Apply 1500 to it 1000 times in a server step and watch the game close |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> 9.81 implies to the reader that we're talking gravity here |
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rubenwardy |
I guess |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> The world is made of blocks, reality doesn't exist in these here parts |
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rubenwardy |
9.8 or 9.81, just not 10:) |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> how about 1.89? |
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rubenwardy |
if that's not in meters, then potentially yes |
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Krock |
pi * 3 |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> It's in feet kilomeinches |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> -9.81000000000000000000000001 == -9.81 also holds in C++ |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> That better be a double you're talkin bout here partner |
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rubenwardy |
also, 9.81 isn't even correct in a lot of places |
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rubenwardy |
"At different points on Earth surface, the free fall acceleration ranges from 9.764 m/s2 to 9.834 m/s" |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Aren't you literally a scientist? |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Who? Me? |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> No the other you |
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rubenwardy |
Me? I'm a computer scientist, so no |
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Krock |
I'm a doctor, not a scientist, Scotty! |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> It still counts! |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> A scientist has proven us both wrong, now we have to duel |
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rubenwardy |
If I didn't go into CS, I would have probably done physics |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Ah he's a physicist! Now we're double wrong |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Fook |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Bleh |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> You're wronger tho |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Is Minetest earth though? |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Minetest is earth but not The Earth. |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Wait, let's think about this right, the average height in MT world is around 0-20 meters from sea level no? |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> let's say ten, now what is the gravitational effect of 32010 meters of mass the density of average stone in real life |
| 15:08 |
MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Then we will have the answer |
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Krock |
Minetest is hillier than the world |
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Krock |
hence the world is flat |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> UNLESS you use Jeija's fookin Taurus world then good luck |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Hmmm |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> We'd have much higher gravity than on Earth with 32km instead of 6km |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Oh no |
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rubenwardy |
no no no |
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rubenwardy |
Earth has 6000km |
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rubenwardy |
not 6km |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Someone should write a hardcore mode that simulates real gravity |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> One second |
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rubenwardy |
fun fact: knowing the radius of the earth helped in the interview for my current job |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Oh no |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> The y element of the acceleration vector is 0.05231999996 |
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rubenwardy |
they wanted me to estimate stuff to do with launching satellites at different latitudes |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> That's less than the moon 1.62 m/s² |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> Good lord man, good luck with that (no seriously) |
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Krock |
Minetest be like Pluto |
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specing |
I've always wished for proper mountains in minetest |
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rubenwardy |
the moon's radius is 54x Minetest's "radius" |
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rubenwardy |
1,737 vs 32 |
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rubenwardy |
(km) |
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MTDiscord |
<oil_boi> I assumed linear Bezier curve |
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dzho |
minetest has a radius? |
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Krock |
!c sqrt(62**2/math.pi) |
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MinetestBot |
NameError: name 'sqrt' is not defined |
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Krock |
!c (62**2/math.pi)**0.5 |
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MinetestBot |
34.97975417996089 |
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Krock |
minetest's radius is that^ |
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Krock |
from square to circle |
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Krock |
because all planets are flat /s |
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dzho |
yeah I wasn't going to go there but now it's out |
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dzho |
I was sort of thinking about how it might be interesting for it to have actual curvature so that eventually you could travel back to where you started |
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rubenwardy |
see Jeija's youtube video |
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rubenwardy |
he modified Minetest to make it a sphere world |
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rubenwardy |
*videos |
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* dzho |
scrolls up |
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rubenwardy |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztAg643gJBA |
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Krock |
you gotta scroll til 2017 |
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rubenwardy |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joFWr3JzBOI |
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dzho |
Krock: heh |
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dzho |
rubenwardy: thanks |
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Krock |
would still be possible to rebase these patches |
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Krock |
though redoing using copy&paste might be quite a bit faster |
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dievri |
Is is possible to access entity self name from on_punch function? https://github.com/dievri/minetest/blob/master/practicemod/init.lua#L26 |
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dievri |
getting nil value |
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sfan5 |
that should be self.object:get_nametag_attributes() |
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dievri |
sfan5, thank you, yes, it's ok now |
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dievri |
is is possible to add custom property to an entity after it is added (minetest.add_entity ...)? |
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Krock |
yes |
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Krock |
self.my_value = "whatever" |
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oil_boi |
You can even change it's scale and rotation, along with it's mesh |
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dievri |
attempt to index local 'entity' (a userdata value) |
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Krock |
obj:get_luaentity |
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Krock |
() |
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Krock |
that's equal to "self" passed to callbacks |
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Krock |
and obj == self.object:get_luaentity().object |
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Krock |
endless |
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oil_boi |
You can even save an array of objects and do things with them!! Woooo |
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dievri |
cool, once again it is working) thanks |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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specing |
What is the easiest way to load mod code outside minetest? |
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specing |
I'd like to plug my minetest.register_craft so I can do some analysis on the recipe interactions |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> probably you'd have to mock up the API |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> that might not be too bad, though, since you mostly just need the register calls and can stub out most of the world-modifying bits, e.g. set_node. |
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specing |
right now I use a pcre to grep out all calls of register_craft and then I mock up that function |
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specing |
but its not that simple as there are enough recipes using variable names and such to makke this a pointless endeavour |
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specing |
perhaps I should recompile minetest with my own code added to that function? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> basically what I'm suggesting is that you load some lua code into a bare lua interpreter to mock up enough of the MT API that the register calls work and don't crash, and then run the mod code under that. You don't have to actually start up the game loop, just get the register calls working. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> That will work for like 99% of mods out there, probably |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> it'll catch variables, unusual syntax, etc. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> it probably WON'T work with things like mods that read other mods' recipes and then modify theirs based on that, but I'd hope that'd be exceedingly rare and you could just handle special cases as special if that ever does happen. |
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