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eraldev |
Hi. |
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eraldev |
How much resources i need to host minetest server for 15, 40, 80, 100 players? |
| 06:23 |
eraldev |
I tried to search, but not find any info |
| 06:30 |
Emerald2 |
It does somewhat depend on what mods you use, as well. |
| 06:48 |
BuckarooBanzai |
eraldev: as Emerald2 said: it depends on your mods, but if you are only using mods that are decorative and don't use background cpu (like technic, mesecons, advtrains, etc) you can run easily on a 2GHz cpu with 2 gb's of ram and 40 players |
| 07:00 |
eraldev |
BuckarooBanzai: do u know mod technic? |
| 07:00 |
eraldev |
Oh sorry) |
| 07:01 |
BuckarooBanzai |
yes, pretty good actually. You are gonna have problems if you want to have that much players with technic though (at least the "stock" version of it) |
| 07:01 |
eraldev |
I use technic and advtrain |
| 07:01 |
eraldev |
Other mods is decorative mods |
| 07:01 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i recommend a multiplayer optimized version of it: https://github.com/mt-mods/technic/ /end-shameless-plug |
| 07:02 |
BuckarooBanzai |
advtrains has its issues too :( |
| 07:02 |
BuckarooBanzai |
Those mods tend to use the cpu quite heavy on multiplayer servers, up to the point where it gets unplayable |
| 07:07 |
BuckarooBanzai |
!tell Darcidride hey, why did you shutdown your servers? lack of money/interest? i'm curious, sorry :) |
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MinetestBot |
BuckarooBanzai: I'll pass that on when Darcidride is around |
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Emerald2 |
Also don't put a bunch of technic stuff and entities in the spawn area if you don't want everyone to lag as soon as they log in. XD |
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eraldev |
BuckarooBanzai , if I use advtrains and mt-mods technic, can I host minetest server for 20 players on 1gb ram and 1 processor unit? |
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LPKI_Ramen |
hey) |
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Emerald2 |
Hi LPKI. |
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LPKI_Ramen |
BuckarooBanzai: if I use advtrains and mt-mods technic, can I host minetest server for 20 players on 1gb ram and 1 processor unit? |
| 08:35 |
Emerald2 |
Ohhh you're eraldev. :P |
| 08:39 |
LPKI_Ramen |
Yeah, I try use matrix.org chat) |
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BuckarooBanzai |
LPKI_Ramen: in my experience: no :P |
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BuckarooBanzai |
(not without heavy lag) |
| 08:40 |
LPKI_Ramen |
BuckarooBanzai: how much players i can use on this conf?) |
| 08:41 |
BuckarooBanzai |
at first this might work but the players will (ab)use the machines and trains more and more until you get noticeable lag spikes |
| 08:41 |
BuckarooBanzai |
if everyone uses technic and train stuff, maybe 5 to 10 i guess |
| 08:42 |
LPKI_Ramen |
I also noticed that when connecting from an android, there is a very slow media download. What could be the problem? |
| 08:42 |
LPKI_Ramen |
The console swears at quotas |
| 08:43 |
LPKI_Ramen |
BuckarooBanzai: Then I will use the server 16 RAM, 8 cores))) |
| 08:43 |
LPKI_Ramen |
*16 Gb |
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BuckarooBanzai |
LPKI_Ramen: 7 of your 8 cores will be idling :) |
| 08:44 |
BuckarooBanzai |
most of the main work will be done in one cpu core |
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LPKI_Ramen |
Lol, i think its true) |
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shangul |
To connect to a server on the same machine as client, what parameters should I pass to Client class constructor? |
| 09:32 |
shangul |
my current code: https://termbin.com/tg40 |
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sfan5 |
if you construct an Address yourself you probably don't even need to pass anything to the Client constructor |
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sfan5 |
also try without the .Resolve() call |
| 10:11 |
shangul |
sfan5, Thank for replying. What about 3rd argument of Client class constructor? |
| 10:12 |
sfan5 |
an empty string could work fine there |
| 10:13 |
sfan5 |
or perhaps not, in any case you should dig into the code to find out what it does with the argument |
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shangul |
I have constructed an "Address" object with "address(127, 0, 0, 1, 30000)" but when I try to get family of it with "address.getFamily()" I get 2 which is IPv6 not IPv4. How can I fix this? |
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sfan5 |
huh? AF_INET is 2 |
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shangul |
err |
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shangul |
Now I am confused |
| 10:23 |
shangul |
I give an IPv4 address object to client->connect and client is constructed with ipv6 = false. But after running my program I get "Socket and bind address families do not match"... |
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shangul |
I wonder where am I wrong |
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sfan5 |
do you still have Resolve("localhost") in your code? |
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shangul |
No I don't. let me upload my code |
| 10:25 |
shangul |
https://termbin.com/qt2e <- Because I am now so confused and also bored, others may see in my code what I don't see... |
| 10:29 |
sfan5 |
change the address you pass to the client constructor to "127.0.0.1" |
| 10:29 |
sfan5 |
because localhost resolves to ::1 which is not the same |
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shangul |
I did, the problem still exists |
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shangul |
the same problem |
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shangul |
Have I found a bug in the minetest code? UDPSocket.m_addr_family is supposed to be either AF_INET6 or AF_INET(see beginning of UDPSocket::init). But after I put some "cout"s in UDPSocket::Bind, I realized that m_addr_family is not AF_INET6 nor AF_INET but Zero and that's why my code does not work. The problem, however, might be in my code not minetest's. |
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shangul |
BTW, I am using Minetest 5.3.0 source code. |
| 14:13 |
shangul |
You can see my code if you scroll a bit up or check logs |
| 14:17 |
shangul |
The only line which initializes m_addr_family to zero is L72 of src/network/address.h |
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shangul |
oh! that's for Address class not UDPSocket |
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shangul |
Minetest uses GPU just for rendering or for other stuff such as math, too? |
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shangul |
Because you know, GPU is a good thing for several small calculations. |
| 15:32 |
rubenwardy |
just rendering |
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rubenwardy |
and as Minetest is aimed at less powerful computers, it's light on GPU |
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shangul |
hmm thank you rubenwardy |
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TomTom |
any idea how to set the minclone2 setting "mcl_node_particles" to "none"? /set mcl_node_particles none does not work. is there an other way to do it? |
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sfan5 |
/set -n mcl_node_particles none |
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TomTom |
thanks, but the particle effect (torches for example) is still there |
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TomTom |
probably a bug of mineclone2 |
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sfan5 |
might have to restart the game |
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TomTom |
arghs, i also forgot how to get minecarts when they are deployed on a track |
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TomTom |
pickaxe from outside does not work |
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Emerald2 |
Shift left click. |
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eraldev |
Can minetest use both ipv6 and ipv4 in one time? |
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eraldev |
Example: |
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eraldev |
Player1 use ipv4 |
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eraldev |
Player2 and player3 use ipv6 |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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shangul |
I had to do sockets_init() and atexit(sockets_cleanup) before defining Client |
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MinetestBot |
[git] devnexen -> minetest/minetest: NetBSD build fix proposal. (#10308) b262184 https://git.io/JUUSV (2020-08-25T18:50:41Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] mntmn -> minetest/minetest: shaders: Fix transparency on GC7000L (#10036) 44c9808 https://git.io/JUUSw (2020-08-25T18:49:51Z) |
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eraldev |
I want write a online on server on my website. Minetest have any json api for http? |
| 22:07 |
gry |
no, but novnc might be interesting |
| 22:08 |
gry |
sorry, i mean: I don't know about api, but novnc might be interesting (maybe api actually exists without me knowing) |
| 22:08 |
eraldev |
Gry: do u have any links about novnc and minetest?) |
| 22:09 |
gry |
its official homepage is https://novnc.com/info.html |
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sfan5 |
the easiest way to do this would be to write a mod that saves the amount of online users in a temporary file and then e.g. a PHP script can read the number |
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eraldev |
Gry: U mean minetest web client for gaming? |
| 22:11 |
gry |
yes |
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eraldev |
<sfan5 "the easiest way to do this would"> Minetest api can launch miniwebserver for api? |
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gry |
it is not an efficient solution, access will be difficult |
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sfan5 |
it can't |
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sfan5 |
but lua code can make http requests |
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eraldev |
<gry "yes"> Me just need write current online player count on website)) |
| 22:13 |
eraldev |
<sfan5 "but lua code can make http reque"> Hmm, this is interesting. I want use serverless, maybe its work) |
| 22:39 |
gry |
eraldev: I don't understand you. |
| 22:40 |
gry |
eraldev: what does "<sfan5 "but lua code can make http reque">" even -mean- ? |
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gry |
sfan5: hi, thank you |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/5.3.0/doc/lua_api.txt#L5374 |
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