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IRC log for #minetest, 2020-08-22

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00:42 Calinou there isn't, as far as I know
00:42 Calinou not sure if server-side CSM could do that
00:42 Calinou but the server would still have to provide the client-side mod
00:43 Calinou the default anticheat prevents you from building outside the range defined by the block you're currently holding too
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13:03 shangul Any client implementation of the minetest protocol available as a library/module for some programming language?
13:04 Krock alright then, we'll keep out secrets
13:04 Krock *our
13:04 eeerungur they waited a whole minute for an answer.
13:05 Krock yeah. that's like double times an eternity
13:05 eeerungur :)
13:08 Talkless minute is like 60,000 microseconds!
13:08 Krock no it's 60E6 microseconds
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13:14 Krock ShadowBot: wb
13:14 Krock ShadowBot: not you
13:14 Krock shangul: wb
13:30 shangul Krock, Thank you :)
13:31 Krock also no, there's only Lua
13:31 Krock MinetestBot has a very basic Minetest protocol "ping" function
13:31 Krock and there's a wireshark "protocol description" file for debugging
13:32 Talkless Krock: sorry yes Y mean milliseconds
13:32 Talkless I*
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13:39 mangul really bad internet connection :|
13:47 shangul Krock, Would that wireshark file be used to implement a client?
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13:48 Krock not really, no.
13:50 shangul So the only way to implement the protocol is going through C++ source code. right?
13:51 Krock yes
13:53 DrFrankenstone_ Is there a fork of minetest anywhere that's implemented simplex noise?
13:53 rubenwardy there is some rough protocol information
13:54 shangul Krock, Thanks for answering my questions :)
13:54 Krock !next
13:54 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
13:54 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/protocol.txt
13:54 Krock yes, check out the doc/ directory
13:55 rubenwardy I've seen a python module with outdated MT networking support
13:55 rubenwardy I forget the name
13:55 rubenwardy there's also this:
13:55 rubenwardy https://github.com/andrewvy/knot
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13:57 rubenwardy shangul: here's the python module: https://github.com/boppreh/minetesting
13:57 mangul hmm
13:57 rubenwardy it's outdated, but could be a good reference
13:57 rubenwardy oh, incrase you didn't see, I listed some other things
13:58 shangul I'll check logs. Thanks
13:58 rubenwardy http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2020-08-22#i_5724328
13:59 shangul thanks
14:00 shangul Heavy job for me. I might not be able to take it now.
14:01 rubenwardy yeah, it'll be a lot of work
14:04 shangul How about making a library from current C++ code?Would be less job I think. Wouldn't be?
14:04 rubenwardy sure, you could try that
14:05 rubenwardy it would work for the lower level protocol
14:05 rubenwardy as for op codes, you'd want to implement that yourself
14:05 eeerungur shangul: what are you planning to do with this?
14:06 shangul eeerungur, I'm not planning anything but I had a bot framework for minetest idea for a long time in my mind.
14:06 eeerungur sounds interesting.
14:06 shangul yeah but unsure about being practical
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14:49 shangul https://dev.minetest.net/Network_Protocol <- Two broken links(client.cpp and server.cpp)
15:01 Krock a lot is broken on the wiki
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15:42 hisforever Hi when I hit f7 I could change personal views but in mt 5.03 its not working, did they remove that function?
15:42 Krock V
15:43 Krock there's no mt 5.03
15:43 hisforever ok the newer one then
15:43 Krock ESC -> key change or press V
15:43 hisforever mt 5.3
15:45 hisforever anyway when I'm on a train I use to be able t see myself driving with f7
15:47 hisforever ok I'll check that
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16:04 hisforever Thanks Krock your a great help
16:09 shangul Do mt client and server play ping pong together like IRC clients and servers do?
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16:10 Krock yes
16:10 shangul nooooooo
16:10 shangul And does the Connection class handle that?
16:11 Krock connection.cpp L961   PING_TIMEOUT
16:11 Krock apparently it's not like IRC, but time-based
16:13 Krock CONTROLTYPE_DISCO sounds funny but is in fact about disconnecting
16:14 shangul disco :D
16:14 shangul I'm getting my feet wet to see what future brings. I may work on this thing a few days.
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17:19 shangul How can I compile just the stuff in network/ and whatever those files there need?
17:24 rubenwardy grab the files, make your own cmakelist?
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17:46 shangul rubenwardy, without making my own cmakelist?
17:49 rubenwardy not really possible
17:49 rubenwardy to build things differently, you need to change the build configuration
17:49 Krock if not cmakelist, then a normal makefile will be needed
17:50 Krock which I wouldn't recommend at all
17:51 shangul Thanks for your replies :)
17:52 shangul Any other channel better suited for this sort of questions? #minetest-dev maybe?
17:52 Krock No, this channel is fine
17:52 shangul ok
17:52 Krock -dev is really just Minetest development, not about related project
17:53 Krock ..s
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19:27 MinetestBot darkwar: Aug-20 19:21 UTC <SwissalpS> Yes, there are many mods that connect minetest with other webservices
19:28 darkwar hello can someone help me with irc idk where put is soo it grants irc permisson access the server
19:28 darkwar something about secure/trusted_mods?
19:30 Krock darkwar: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1606-L1609
19:30 darkwar thank you and do u know why my minetest.conf not connected to my server
19:31 darkwar anything i input in side of it dont read
19:31 Krock then move it to ~/.minetest/
19:32 darkwar it is in .minetest
19:32 darkwar should i move it to .minetest/world/world?
19:33 Krock no, that won't help
19:33 darkwar alright
19:33 Krock so it loads the world from ~/.minetest/worlds/ ... ?
19:33 darkwar well my server in /.minetest/worlds/test
19:34 darkwar the config in .minetest
19:34 Krock your server is in /bin/ or /usr/bin
19:34 darkwar inside that /,minetest/minetest.conf but when i input secure.trusted_mods = irc says i did not put it in there
19:34 darkwar nether
19:34 darkwar inside home
19:35 Krock manual compile or package manager installation? wat's the RUN_IN_PLACE output for minetest --version ?
19:35 darkwar BUILD_TYPE=Release
19:35 darkwar RUN_IN_PLACE=0
19:35 darkwar USE_GETTEXT=1
19:35 darkwar USE_SOUND=1
19:35 darkwar USE_CURL=1
19:35 darkwar USE_FREETYPE=1
19:35 darkwar USE_LUAJIT=1
19:35 darkwar STATIC_SHAREDIR="/usr/share/minetest"
19:35 darkwar STATIC_LOCALEDIR="/usr/share/locale"
19:36 Krock pastebin is recommended
19:36 darkwar sorry XD
19:36 Krock seems alright. are you running the server under your username, or root?
19:36 Krock for latter: don't do it.
19:37 darkwar username
19:37 darkwar root dangerous
19:38 Krock what if you launch minetestserver using  --config ~/.minetest/minetest.conf ?
19:38 Krock and including the world name, ofc
19:38 darkwar i try it
19:39 Krock kinda weird, because most clients use the same setup, and minetest.conf works for them
19:39 darkwar i know
19:39 darkwar XD
19:39 darkwar is there command to hard wipe minetest and start over?
19:40 Krock apt purge minetest
19:40 darkwar purge only wipes basic
19:40 Krock though that won't help
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19:40 darkwar true
19:40 darkwar --config wont work
19:40 Krock last time I've heard something about that was due to wrong file permissions
19:41 darkwar i have full access
19:41 darkwar and i run everything with no root
19:41 Krock also try the setting "debug_log_level = verbose" in case chmod 777 didn't help
19:41 Krock just to make sure it's really not loaded
19:41 darkwar is there away i can disable secure
19:42 Krock you need a minetest.conf file for that
19:42 darkwar lol kinda hard when dont work XD
19:42 darkwar i going try something
19:44 darkwar looks like the file was corrupted some how
19:44 darkwar i deleted it from the storage and going re install
19:47 darkwar alright i got minetest.conf
19:47 darkwar i going test it
19:49 darkwar nothing
19:49 darkwar https://pastebin.com/g0Neej5q
19:49 darkwar Krock
19:49 darkwar and says it not in there
19:50 darkwar >.>
19:50 Krock > secure.trusted_mods = irc'
19:50 Krock error near '
19:50 darkwar how is that err
19:51 darkwar is there space?
19:52 Krock there's a tailing appostrophe
19:52 darkwar secure.trusted_mods = irc
19:52 darkwar just like that
19:53 Krock that's not what you pasted
19:53 darkwar i know
19:53 darkwar i fixed it then sent it to u
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19:55 darkwar https://pasteboard.co/JnACpwR.png
19:55 darkwar https://pastebin.com/2BcdejrH
19:55 darkwar kinda driving me nuts tbh XD
19:57 darkwar Krock is it my file system or something?
19:57 darkwar idk why its not working
19:57 Krock FYI: secure.trusted_mods is duplicated
19:58 Krock I don't know. set it up using a client and copy over the configuration files and world
19:58 darkwar alright
19:58 Krock EOT
19:58 darkwar is there away i can add irc and skinsdb to secure trusted mods?
19:59 darkwar said thing is this is my client server XD
19:59 heavygale client server,…right
19:59 darkwar i testing serverything on my client server befor upload
19:59 heavygale kk :D
19:59 darkwar huh
20:01 heavygale you can't habe secure.trusted_mods multiple times in your config
20:01 darkwar i deleted it
20:01 darkwar now i only got one
20:01 heavygale ok
20:01 darkwar and it still not working
20:04 darkwar well i keep testing softwares figure it out thx for the help
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22:33 eraldev Hello)
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