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gh00p |
Hi folks. I had a low-battery shutoff while running minetest on Android, and now the game crashes every time I try to load the self-hosted world I was in. I gather something got corrupted in data files. Is there a way to diagnose or repair this kind of thing? Would hate to lose all the stuff I was building. :/ |
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Emerald2 |
gh00p: is there a crash message? |
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gh00p |
Emerald2: nope, the application just quits, before the progress bar even has a chance to move. |
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Emerald2 |
I'm not familiar with minetest on android, so hopefully somebody else has an answer for you. |
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gh00p |
Emerald2: ah, there is a `debug.txt` in /sdcard/Minetest/, with entries at the end which list errors... http://sprunge.us/24tCL3 |
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gh00p |
The last line looks the most damning, I think. |
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gh00p |
Anything with "fatal error" seems like a good candidate. :) |
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gh00p |
I'm running version 5.1.0.25 from f-droid, the Play Store version is even older. |
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Emerald2 |
Ahh interesting. Wasn't sure if that file existed on android. |
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gh00p |
Hmm, for kicks, I'll see if I can copy the world directory over to my mac and load it there. |
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gh00p |
Emerald2: this is interesting... |
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gh00p |
sqlite> select count(*) from blocks; |
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gh00p |
Error: attempt to write a readonly database |
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gh00p |
The weird thing here is that while I did open the map in readonly mode, another (working) map did not give me this error. |
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gh00p |
This was a 5.2 minetest running on a mac, using a copy of the map copied over from the android device (5.1). And older backup worked fine, a newer copy crashes the same way. Debug data is here: http://sprunge.us/rvfKsj |
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gh00p |
I even tried copying the newer map file into the "working" world, which then crashed. So it looks like my map.sqlite is corrupt. |
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cheapie |
gh00p: If you have the sqlite CLI installed, you can try loading the map.sqlite up in that ("sqlite3 map.sqlite" in a terminal, from in the world dir) and then running "PRAGMA integrity_check;" (the trailing ; is important) from in there - it won't repair anything, but it should tell you if your map.sqlite is indeed corrupt or not. |
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gh00p |
cheapie: it returns "ok", but the "select count(*) from blocks;" returns 72501,. which seems like too many. |
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cheapie |
72501 mapblocks doesn't sound like too many to me :P |
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cheapie |
My test world here has 22731, and that's just some tiny test world that I haven't moved very far from the origin in. |
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gh00p |
Ah, right, I just tested some other maps and they're all different. Okay, so how would I diagnose this? |
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gh00p |
If map.sqlite is readable, is it possible it has a locked record somewhere that's getting in the way? I don't even know if that's possible. |
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cheapie |
I'm not sure, but it does sound like an engine bug to me at this point and not a corrupt map. |
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cheapie |
May be worth asking in #minetest-dev given that something internal to the engine seems to be breaking here. |
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gh00p |
Thanks. Oh, did you see my debug info at sprunge, above? |
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cheapie |
The part with the LBM manager stuff crashing? Yep, that's part of why I think it's an engine problem of some sort. |
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gh00p |
I think "EnvArgsEnd not found" might have meant something too. |
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gh00p |
Anyway, off to bed for me. Thanks for the advice. |
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gorilla |
When running in windows singleplayer environment, I have noted that the saplings seem to not grow (yes aware that they are instant from saplings to fully gron). Version 5.2.0 |
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gorilla |
I take that back, the saplings do grow but I'm not understanding when... yes, I have been putting them on a dirt block with plenty of sunlight. |
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Out`Of`Control |
On my server saplings grow, but really slow. |
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epoch |
I think most of the "grow" code will trigger at regular intervals and each time the plants have a random chance of growing up. |
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epoch |
also I'm pretty sure saplings won't grow if when they grew they'd be growing through something else |
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fruitsnack |
Hello, how can I check presence of sunlight somewhere? |
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fruitsnack |
is there some flags or something, or the best I can do is to check if there's no nodes above? |
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sfan5 |
compare get_node_light for the air above, it can return both the day and night light |
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sfan5 |
and if day light > night light, the sun reaches there |
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sfan5 |
this isn't perfect in presence of artifical light but the best I could think of |
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fruitsnack |
Well, I mainly wanted to use it to check if player is sheltered |
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sfan5 |
might work though since artifical light has values < LIGHT_SUN |
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fruitsnack |
I thought mese lamp from default has the same light value as the sunlight |
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fruitsnack |
And another question, how perfomance-costly raycasts are? Is it faster to do one raycast or to interate over a few nodes above the player? |
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fruitsnack |
to check if there's nodes above,for example to the end of mapblock |
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sfan5 |
hard to say, I suggest benchmarking it |
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fruitsnack |
hm, really inconclusive, results on my machine seems to be approximately the same, but there's quite a lot of jitter |
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fruitsnack |
both go from 0.03 to 0.1 ms, without any visible increase with increasing distance |
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rubenwardy |
minetest.get_node_light() for day time equal 15 |
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juangh |
hello there guys. goot time for all of you and, please, keep safe. |
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Conradish006 |
Hello? |
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juangh |
i need your help: how can i increase the ram memory in my server to be used? |
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Conradish006 |
You mean increase the actual hardware? |
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juangh |
when i use wordedit, for example, and i made some kind of edition, the server crash around 2GB of ram memory... |
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juangh |
no no |
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sfan5 |
are you using luajit? |
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Conradish006 |
Oh okay |
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juangh |
can i configure the server to let it use more ram? |
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juangh |
i have a server with 64GB of ram |
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Conradish006 |
I figured it would automatically |
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Conradish006 |
Mine did |
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juangh |
the proccess crash when i made a world edition... |
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Conradish006 |
I dunno, try asking someone who hosts a server at home |
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juangh |
;-) thanks! |
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juangh |
2020-05-22 14:07:33: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: OOM error from mod 'worldedit_commands' in callback on_chat_message(): not enough memory |
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juangh |
2020-05-22 14:07:33: ERROR[Main]: Current Lua memory usage: 1412 MB |
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Conradish006 |
I did host a server at home, but my internet was too unreliable |
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juangh |
this is an example |
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juangh |
this was last 22 |
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sfan5 |
so are you using luajit or not? |
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sfan5 |
because luajit has a 2GB limit unless you use LuaJIT in its "gc64" variant |
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juangh |
sfan5 i'm sorry, i don't read it before...no...let me see...what luajit is? |
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sfan5 |
try minetestserver --version |
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sfan5 |
and see if you have USE_LUAJIT=1 or USE_LUAJIT=0 |
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juangh |
1 |
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juangh |
USE_LUAJIT=1 |
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juangh |
looking for information about how it affects the server... |
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sfan5 |
unless you want to mess with compiling luajit *and* minetestserver the only advice I can give it to select smaller regions when using worldedit |
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juangh |
what is the best choice? |
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juangh |
mmmm ok ok |
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juangh |
i installed luajit now...it figure as if not been installed |
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Emerald2 |
Yeah I was going to ask what size area you're worldediting. |
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juangh |
and, even if i don't use world edit, and i just want to give to the proccess more ram memory...can i give more? |
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Conradish006 |
My server is currently having issues with the protections |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest_game: Add node particles when leafdecay removes a node (#2686) 84da00a https://git.io/JfV6h (2020-05-25T13:56:23Z) |
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Conradish006 |
It allows players to still break protected areas |
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Conradish006 |
And I've there has been a ton of griefing since it happened |
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PGimeno |
juangh: LuaJIT can't use more than 2MB (1MB in Linux 64 bits) |
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Conradish006 |
One player even melted down a reactor |
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PGimeno |
juangh: sorry, I mean LuaJIT 2.0 |
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Conradish006 |
Anybody know what the issue could be? |
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Conradish006 |
I use the protection mod for BlockySurvival |
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Conradish006 |
Same one that Vanessa uses |
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juangh |
PGimeno: mmmm, i understand... |
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sfan5 |
PGimeno: I think you mean GB ;) |
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PGimeno |
juangh: LuaJIT 2.1 with GC64 can use more, but that needs a custom compilation |
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PGimeno |
and yes, I mean GB sorry :) |
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juangh |
PGimeno: let me ask you: i have a few instance (diferents worlds) in the same server, its are running, but, i don't know if i could may it work better... |
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juangh |
Yes yes, i undestand about MB and GB ;-) |
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juangh |
now i have two scripts, one to kill the proccess filtering by the port, and then starting it again...i'm thinking to make a kind of web interface to let others do that |
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nephele |
Conradish006, it's possible that some you have overwrites blocks without checking protection |
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nephele |
mod* |
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Conradish006 |
I'll check |
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Conradish006 |
Thanks! |
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PGimeno |
juangh: if there's a question, I don't know what it is :) |
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juangh |
PGimeno: That's right! :D |
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juangh |
PGimeno: I ask if there is other way to be running multiples instance (worlds) in the same server...just that. |
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juangh |
Now i'm using the same recommendation that is in the official docs... |
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bavariaball |
why i cant join servers |
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bavariaball |
i mean it says connecting to the server |
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PGimeno |
juangh: what's the OS of the server? |
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bavariaball |
but im waiting for like a 10 minutes |
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bavariaball |
idk i just joined one from the server list |
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juangh |
Ubuntu Server (Focal) |
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sfan5 |
bavariaball: firewall? security software? |
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juangh |
PGimeno: Ubuntu Server (Focal) |
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bavariaball |
nope |
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bavariaball |
i have endless OS |
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bavariaball |
and minetest is automatically downloaded |
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rubenwardy |
*googles Minecraft* |
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rubenwardy |
*endless OS: we've automatically downloaded Minetest for you* |
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Conradish006 |
Frickin internet keeps disconnecting me |
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Conradish006 |
I hate my ISP |
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PGimeno |
juangh: all I can give you is advice for finding the process ID of the server, e.g. if the server is executed with bash, doing: 'minetestserver & ; minetest_pid=$!' gets you the process id so you can be sure it's the one you executed |
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bavariaball |
can someone give me an endless os server? |
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sfan5 |
you can run a server from the main menu |
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Conradish006 |
I suggest using the server client tho |
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sfan5 |
either way since endless OS seems to be Linux based maybe there are more conventional ways of installing Minetest |
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Conradish006 |
Be it from Windows or Ubuntu |
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nephele |
another ostree distro i see |
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PGimeno |
sfan5: would you consider this patch? https://notabug.org/pgimeno/minetest-worldedit/pulls/1 |
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sfan5 |
the line endings have bothered me for a while but having a huge diff to change them was something I decided against in the past |
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sfan5 |
the .gitattributes file might be useful though (doesn't git understand text vs binary by default?) |
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PGimeno |
sfan5: yes but it leaves the LFs untouched. You can create a local .gitattributes with these contents and normalize yourself. |
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PGimeno |
it leaves the Line endings* untouches |
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PGimeno |
you can normalize yourself without having a .gitattributes file in the repo, you just create it locally and use it to normalize |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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PGimeno |
I think it's easy to review in GH by checking the diff without space changes or something like that |
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juangh |
PGimeno: I'm reading all the information about server. Yes, i made two scripts, one to start and other to kill the proccess...using "pkill -f port" |
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PGimeno |
juangh: works too, I guess |
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PGimeno |
I'm just a bit nervous that -f might match the wrong thing |
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juangh |
PGimeno: to release that responsability to others, i will make a kind of "dashboard" with a single button and proccess checker...if it is up, green and nothing to do, if it is down the color is red, then one button to run the scripts...that is the idea |
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juangh |
PGimeno: something really simple, but working |
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juangh |
thanks a lot to sfan5 and PGimeno...i will try to make somethink simple and share this idea using github... |
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fruitsnack |
haha, just went to see what's endless OS and they have minetest on their front page, under content section |
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fruitsnack |
A screenshot from it as a thumbnail for "games" |
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Conradish00643 |
I swear to god! I'm gonna switch to AT&T |
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PGimeno |
sfan5: the advantage of having .gitattributes is that it helps with future additions from a Windows system |
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PGimeno |
without a .gitattributes, EOL is committed verbatim; with it, it's translated to LF on commit and, on windows, to CRLF on checkout |
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Conradish00643 |
Could someone please kick @Conradish006 so I can log back in? |
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PGimeno |
*.png was not really necessary |
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nephele |
aslong as you don't switch to deutsche telekom :D |
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PGimeno |
sfan5: does keep_loaded https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/worldedit/common.lua#L48 - rely on the garbage collector not clearing the 'manip' local? |
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PGimeno |
if so, I suggest this patch: https://notabug.org/pgimeno/minetest-worldedit/commit/afe56032bbee7507e265e1e91cc616c2224b0074 |
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sfan5 |
I think the intention there is just to load the map once and hope it doesn't get unloaded |
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sfan5 |
not sure if the vmanips even make use of the garbage collector |
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PGimeno |
oh so the engine does not ensure it's loaded for as long as the object exists? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Silence GCC warning in mapblock_mesh 5311a27 https://git.io/JfV9j (2020-05-25T17:10:23Z) |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_vmanip.cpp#L396 |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/map.h#L466 |
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sfan5 |
PGimeno: ^ yes, seems like it doesn't do that at all |
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PGimeno |
does that mean that a block can be unloaded while it's manipulated? ew |
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PGimeno |
thanks |
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sfan5 |
sure, but it's not like that would matter since the vmanip stores a copy |
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sfan5 |
when you call read_from_map that is |
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PGimeno |
oh! and when you save to a block that is unloaded, is it reloaded in order to modify it? |
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PGimeno |
if so, then everything's good |
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sfan5 |
hm actually it keeps a copy of every block, so it doesn't need to reload them |
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sfan5 |
but essentially yes |
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PGimeno |
ok, all good then, sorry |
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sfan5 |
will add a comment to the worldedit.keep_loaded implementation though |
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sfan5 |
because this isn't obvious at all |
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PGimeno |
thanks |
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PGimeno |
juangh: still there? I think you can try this mod: https://notabug.org/pgimeno/ffi_accel |
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oil_boi: May-24 20:56 UTC <texmex> Hilarious! xD https://youtu.be/DpSIV648DaI?t=7748 |
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oil_boi |
texmex, hahaha, yes, the boat on top of tnt on top of a pig riding a spider has a 0.002% chance to spawn :P |
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luvo |
hahaha |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: L-System trees: Remove hardcoded use of 'mapgen_dirt' alias (#9931) b546e89 https://git.io/JfVFS (2020-05-25T20:11:57Z) |
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[git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Rename “Minimal development test” to “Development Test” (#9928) 083b285 https://git.io/JfVhI (2020-05-25T22:17:52Z) |
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PGimeno |
hm, should I say goodbye forever to my "minimal" worlds? |
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sfan5 |
they haven't worked since yesterday already |
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PGimeno |
I guess I can make some tweaks to add the game with another name and rename the world's game or something |
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rubenwardy |
you can grab the last version from git |
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PGimeno |
yeah, we'll see how the renaming affects it... any ideas on stuff that I should adjust after renaming the game, apart from the name in world.mt? |
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rubenwardy |
most of the node names have changed |
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rubenwardy |
it's a completely new test game |
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PGimeno |
sorry, what I'm doing is copying the old 'minimal' (pre-9450) with another name, so that I can go back and forth in git history without getting conflicts |
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rubenwardy |
oh right |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, that's a good idea |
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PGimeno |
so, after renaming minimal to minidev (which I did) and adjusting world.mt for the worlds (which I did), anything else that comes to mind that needs adjusting? |
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PGimeno |
well, it says "All test pass" on current master, so it seems it's all good |
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rubenwardy |
that should work |
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rschulman |
Is there a way to make some parts of a mesh type node transparent or semi-transparent? |
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NathanS21 |
Use an alpha texture. |
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NathanS21 |
For partial transparency you need to set something in the nodedef |
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NathanS21 |
use_alpha_texture = true |
