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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-09-08

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07:48 kiwi_53 Hello !
07:49 kiwi_53 Is me, kiwi_43 of last evenning.
07:50 Krock the numbers ascended
07:51 kiwi_53 If I understand, the game at the installation is https://wiki.minetest.net/Subgames/Minetest_Game
07:56 kiwi_53 Yes or no ?
08:03 kiwi_53 So...
08:04 kiwi_53 Why mods are create, and no include in Minetest Game, the initial game with all blocks ?
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08:13 Krock Yes.
08:13 Krock please rephrase the second question
08:13 Krock (if you read the logs)
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10:36 MinetestBot [git] ClobberXD -> minetest/minetest: lua_api.txt: Improve privilege definition (#8912) 52e3b4b https://git.io/Jeet8 (2019-09-08T10:34:44Z)
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11:59 Astrobe NVidia installs a network telemetry driver with its grapnic card driver, tell me I'm dreaming.
12:00 Astrobe Without asking on top of that. Well I'm sure there's an opt-out checkbox somewhere but, you know, why not use a dark pattern when you can?
12:01 Calinou IIRC, GeForce Experience is no longer opt-out on Windows
12:01 Calinou though on Linux, there's no such thing as GeForce Experience :)
12:02 Astrobe Well I manually opted-out it by setting the service startup on manual.
12:02 sfan5 I think it is opt-out in the sense that you can just not use it and download driver updates manually.
12:02 sfan5 or let Windows download the drivers itself from Windows Update, if that works
12:03 Krock .inf and .sys are the only files you need for the driver
12:03 Astrobe I did a reinstall cause I have weird graphic driver crashes since I made some "experiments" with water nodes in Minetest.
12:05 Astrobe I have several other potentional issues, but when I did that the driver crashed repeatedly and once the whole system. Sinc then, sometimes I have no display when Windows boot.
12:05 Astrobe Window's event log says everything is normal... Yeah, sure.
12:09 Krock could also be a power issue
12:13 Astrobe That system has been working fine for a long time and the newest part (2-3 years I think) is precisely the PSU... Although my USB headset has a minor electric issue... I'll try to boot with it disconnected next times.
12:14 Astrobe The other thing suspicious is that I used Reshade but it really predates my current issues.
12:16 Astrobe I wonder how this thing works. It injects shaders and even its own UI inside virtually any program, without apparently installing anything system-wide (?!).
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12:30 Astrobe Actually you almost also need a .cat for drivers, otherwise W10 will complain and make you jump though hoops and occasionally remove your driver because it is not signed.
12:31 Astrobe Anyway I'm just "finishing" my W7 license, when my HDD dies it will be a Linux.
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13:44 Astrobe FWIW my server is up if someone wnats to see the smoke mod without installing it. Search "Minefall" in the server list.
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13:59 Krock !server Minefall
13:59 MinetestBot Krock: Minefall | 77.151.101.245 | Clients: 1/10, 0/1 | Version: 5.1.0-a7c5dc5 / Minefall | Ping: 61ms
14:00 Krock that's an old dev version
14:01 VanessaE <game where major releases can be 2 years apart> "5.1.0" "old"
14:01 VanessaE heh
14:01 Krock 2 years?
14:01 Astrobe Hmmm... That's the hotfix of the 5.1
14:02 VanessaE yeah, didn't it take almost 2 years from when "0.5.0" got started before it made it to "5.0.0"?  or am I thinking late in the 0.4.x cycle?
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14:40 Krock 0.4.17 was also a release
14:40 Krock but 0.5.0/5.0.0 indeed took over a year
14:41 Krock but definitely was worth it to introduce floats in the network
14:42 VanessaE I recall someone saying 18 months, and that was some months ago
14:42 VanessaE hence my 2-year estimate.
14:42 VanessaE but yeah.
14:45 Krock Aug 24, 2018: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c99dcba
14:45 Krock *2017
14:45 Krock Mar 4, 2019: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f9d1810
14:45 VanessaE I was close :)
14:45 Krock me too
14:46 Krock 18 months is closer though
14:47 VanessaE *nod*
14:47 Krock but in the meantime some fixes were backported to 0.4.x so I wouldn't call this a 18 month delay between releases
14:47 Astrobe !server Minefall
14:47 MinetestBot Astrobe: Minefall | 77.151.101.245 | Clients: 1/10, 1/3 | Version: 5.1.0-a7c5dc5 / Minefall | Ping: 51ms
14:47 Krock 5.1.0 should come soon though IMO. It's time.
14:48 Astrobe But Minetest website offers 5.0.1? I'm confused.
14:48 Astrobe Oh, that's kind of a 5.1 RC?
14:49 sfan5 no
14:49 sfan5 5.0.1 is 5.0 (5.0.0) with a few bug fixes
14:50 Krock 5.1.0 > 5.0.1
14:50 sfan5 5.1 (5.1.0) is the next major release after 5.0.x
14:50 Astrobe ok, go it. I just picked one of your latest windows build one day, That's what prolly happened.
14:51 Astrobe My bad.
15:00 Astrobe Is it still valid?  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=1825
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15:06 sfan5 yes
15:07 Astrobe ty :-)
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16:45 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Lua API documentation: Various fixes (#8914) e97cbcf https://git.io/JeeZe (2019-09-08T16:43:49Z)
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16:51 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Dungeons: Remove non-functional 'projecting dungeons' setting (#8897) 4682c7b https://git.io/JeeZv (2019-09-08T16:51:34Z)
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17:03 Astrobe Projecting dungeons... Or maybe implement "temples" as it is mentionned somewhere in the docs. Pyramids seem a bit popular.
17:03 Astrobe Finding ancient ruins in the middle of a jungle is pretty nice.
17:06 Astrobe Personnally I find projecting dungeons nice too, but they didn't really fit in my universe so I had to disabled then.
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17:41 hisforever Hi, I'd like to know what block would be in place of mindcrafts ambersite? I hooe I made my self clear?
17:43 hisforever hope I made my statement clear? and if there is any?
17:46 Astrobe couldn't find a ref. Did you mean minecraft amberstone?
17:46 hisforever yes
17:46 hisforever Astrobe: thanks
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18:29 rdococ https://github.com/minetest-mods/irc/pull/58
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