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How's everyone doing today? ? |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
hello, my server is not listed anymore at https://servers.minetest.net/ it it because it was down during the period from 2019-08-13 to 2019-08-21? |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
*is |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
address: yugiohjcj.tk, port: 30000 (UDP) |
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sfan5 |
YuGiOhJCJ: your server should automatically reappear if you start it up |
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sfan5 |
!up yugiohjcj.tk 30000 |
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MinetestBot |
yugiohjcj.tk:30000 is up (48ms) |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
ok as it is already running, I will stop it and start it again to see what happens |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
ok restarted but I still don't see it in the server list, weird |
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Krock |
any warnings, errors? |
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Krock |
request timeout? blocked IP? |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
in the log I see 2019-09-01 15:03:32: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net |
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Krock |
correct address settings, as well as IPv4/6? |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
I see only a warning because I am using the old player file backend, but nothing else, it seems to be good |
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Krock |
you could migrate that one easily |
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sfan5 |
!up yugiohjcj.tk 30000 |
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MinetestBot |
yugiohjcj.tk:30000 is up (53ms) |
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sfan5 |
should be working ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
2019-08-26 13:07:07: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Couldn't resolve host name) (response code 0) |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
an old error |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
in the log |
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Niwla |
sofar ? |
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Niwla |
which license is good for my mod request (TalkLounges dropped mod plot_system) |
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sfan5 |
YuGiOhJCJ: I can't see any announce request from your servers IP |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
that's strange because 'server_announce = true' is set in '.minetest/minetest.conf' |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
can I do a fake announcement easily with the curl utility without using Minetest directly from my server? |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
It could help to see what happens |
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sfan5 |
possible? yes easily? no |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
ah |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
I am not sure what is doing the code for announcing I will try to find that in the code first |
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sfan5 |
your server's ip is 78.199.90.154, right? |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
yes |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/server.cpp#L592 hmm maybe the problem is that the "USE_CURL" macro is not set, I will check that |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
I can't remind the last time that my server appeared in the server list so maybe it's an old problem maybe not |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
everything seems ok for CURL: https://pastebin.com/aCSPsEGz |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
so it is enabled |
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lllI1I |
hi hello how can I make a very minor API change request that would be very helpful to implement and laughably trivial to implement, is there a formal process or |
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Krock |
-> github issue |
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Krock |
or request it here or in #-dev |
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Krock |
but changes are higher on github that someone will pick it up somewhen |
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lllI1I |
I just want an AreaStore to include the area's ID |
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lllI1I |
so that I can remove it if I lost it somehow |
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lllI1I |
I can probably write a patch that'll do it ez |
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lllI1I |
AFAIK it'd be one line |
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Krock |
like AreaStore:get_ids() -> {"id1", "id2", ...} |
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lllI1I |
like get_areas_for_pos(...) returning the id along with the borders and data |
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lllI1I |
e.g. {max = {y = 7,x = 0,z = -137},min = {y = 0,x = -7,z = -144},data = "return {[\"y\"] = 3, [\"x\"] = -4, [\"z\"] = -141}",id=3} |
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Krock |
so.. AreaStore:to_table() |
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lllI1I |
no that would return all areas |
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lllI1I |
I'm working on a mod that deals with areas for protection and other things; the areas are attached to a special node in the world and are created when they're placed and deleted when they're destroyed |
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Krock |
sorry? the ID is already the index of the returned array |
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lllI1I |
but apparently due to a bug I now have an area that doesn't have a node attached |
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lllI1I |
so it's stuck in the AreaStore with no way to be deleted |
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Krock |
are you sure it's there? how do you know? |
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lllI1I |
I place a block in the area and my server reports "found an area! {max = { y = 7,x = 0,z = -137},min = { y = 0,x = -7,z = -144},data = "return {[\"y\"] = 3, [\"x\"] = -4, [\"z\"] = -141}"}" |
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lllI1I |
the data is the position where the node was placed, but that node is no longer there |
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lllI1I |
the node had metadata including the ID of the area but now that's gone |
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Krock |
well, nodes and areas do not have any connection |
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Krock |
they can be used entirely separate |
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lllI1I |
yes |
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lllI1I |
I have it set up so that the area's data is just a link to the controlling node |
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lllI1I |
and the metadata connected to the area is saved in the metadata of the node |
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Krock |
what if the area exceeds a mapblock? the node might not be loaded |
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lllI1I |
I haven't gotten that far yet because I encountered this problem |
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lllI1I |
though I had planned on forceloading all nodes with areas attached |
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Krock |
so how would you like to have the ID included in AreaStore? |
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Krock |
(still don't understand where the problem is) |
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sfan5 |
max = { y = 7,x = 0,z = -137},min = { y = 0,x = -7,z = -144} describes an area in the AreaStore |
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sfan5 |
but how do you find out the id of that area? |
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lllI1I |
just returning in the table(s) returned by get_areas_by_pos() |
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sfan5 |
...is what I understood this problem as |
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lllI1I |
or is the ID actually already returned but not in the table somehow? |
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lllI1I |
I have "for _, area in pairs(homes:get_areas_for_pos(pos, true, true)) do" |
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lllI1I |
would the _ be where the ID is going or is the ID only used internally? |
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Krock |
<Krock> sorry? the ID is already the index of the returned array |
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Krock |
"_" is the ID |
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Krock |
it's the very same ID as you specify when getting the area |
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Krock |
and iterating by ipairs won't work because it's a non-continuous numeric array |
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lllI1I |
I did pairs not ipairs |
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lllI1I |
also just tested, replaced _ with id |
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lllI1I |
area.id = id |
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lllI1I |
no change |
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Krock |
what do you expect from this line? it's a copy from the C++ data |
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lllI1I |
I'm having a look at the C++ source |
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Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_areastore.cpp |
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Krock |
^ le click |
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Krock |
but I must say that the AreaStore documentation is really poor |
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lllI1I |
a->id is never referenced in the relevant functions |
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lllI1I |
I think I can write up a little thing |
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Krock |
setter: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_areastore.cpp#L186 |
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lllI1I |
that might fix it |
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Krock |
getter: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_areastore.cpp#L67 |
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Krock |
!! |
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Krock |
neither serialized nor deserialized |
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Krock |
neither are these functions forwards-compatible. eeks |
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lllI1I |
yeah I'm not getting the id as expected |
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Krock |
it might just be any foolish high number if it's not initialized |
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Krock |
2^32-1 to be precise |
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lllI1I |
I had a thought for what I'd make the fix but it sounds like you might want to be making some changes of your own |
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lllI1I |
or that it's broken and needs proper fixing before I give it a shot |
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lllI1I |
I barely know what I'm doing with it |
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Krock |
ofc it needs proper fixing in the (de)serializing functions. you can take over that part if you'd like to try |
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lllI1I |
I wouldn't know where to start with that |
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lllI1I |
I was just going to add a couple lines that return the id in the table itself |
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Krock |
am I right that areastore isn't saved anywhere, and has to be done by mods? |
| 18:08 |
lllI1I |
yes |
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Krock |
okay. your approach is the only sane solution for now |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
problem is that newer saved areas won't be backwards compatible to 5.0.0 |
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lllI1I |
I use modstore:set_string("homes", minetest.encode_base64(homes:to_string())) to save them |
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lllI1I |
the base64 part is vital |
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Krock |
hmm unless I add another loop at the end of the serialization |
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lllI1I |
so should I go ahead with my 2 line patch or |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
find a workaround in your mod. I am currently fixinfg this |
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Krock |
put the ID into the data string |
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MinetestBot |
[git] DS-Minetest -> minetest/minetest: Various fixes to lua_api.txt (#8878) 0013f06 https://git.io/fjp8J (2019-09-01T18:12:22Z) |
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lllI1I |
the workaround was putting it in the node's metadata |
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lllI1I |
I'll put it in the actual data for now tho |
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lllI1I |
thanks btw Krock |
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lllI1I |
took a week off from this mod when I hit this wall |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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nepugia |
So i can get my satisfaaaction |
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lllI1I |
well I feel kinda dumb now |
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lllI1I |
I was testing in the wrong file |
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lllI1I |
none of my changes made it to the server |
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lllI1I |
Krock: disregard my request/report it works thanks |
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Krock |
lllI1I: #8888 magic number |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8888 -- Fix AreaStore's IDs persistence by SmallJoker |
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Krock |
oh. needs a feature flag as well |
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Krock |
lllI1I: if you have some time to test this PR it would be great - or even better: if you happen to have a small testing code ready |
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Krock |
time to fix unittest |
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lllI1I |
Krock: I've stopped relying on the saved id since you told me they were in the keys |
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lllI1I |
I could revert and then try it again but I might just test it in a new thing |
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lllI1I |
later today though |
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lllI1I |
if that's okay |
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Krock |
ok |
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luizsab |
where I can find tutorials abou technic? I read the docs at github but isnt not cleare, I will used that with kids |
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MinetestBot |
[git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: 'All Settings': Don't use checkboxes for 'no...' mapgen flags (#7847) cd1d01b https://git.io/fjpBh (2019-09-01T21:43:41Z) |
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nupa |
Hi, can someone please add create a wiki account for me? I'm nupa on the forums as well. |
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luizsab |
where I can find tutorials abou technic? I read the docs at github but isnt not cleare, I will used that with kids |
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luizsab |
someone? |
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nupa |
luizsab, I'd help but I don't know either, sorry. |
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luizsab |
nupa thank you |
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sfan5 |
github docs are most likely the only documentation technic has |
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sfan5 |
if you want to make it understandable to kids you'll have to write your own guide |
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luizsab |
sfan5, yes, I understand. I mean that docs not have all items description, I don't know how to use them |
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luizsab |
I found something at youtube, but only basic battery, solar panel... |
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kurtzmusch |
where should i put games and mods for a minetest compiled from source? |
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kurtzmusch |
nevermind, found it |
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nupa |
luizab a lot of stuff in minetest doesn't have great documentation, you might be able to get an idea by skimming the lua source code. if you figure out enough to put a proper guide together you'd be doing us all a big favor :) |
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luizsab |
nupa, thank you again, I will do that. I guess I can contribute at wiki, right? I already translate something there to portuguese |
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luizsab |
nupa, I found a manual at mod folder, you are right, I will translate that |
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nupa |
luizsab, I'm not sure where the best place to actually post a guide is. If the mod has a github page with its own wiki, that might be a good place to start. |
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nupa |
Does anyone know if we post mod info on the minetest wiki? or is that discouraged |
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