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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-07-11

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13:57 juli hi i changed my servers backend to redis.
13:57 juli but now after some time i get everytime errors like this:
13:57 juli An unhandled exception occurred: Redis command 'MULTI' failed: Server closed the connection
13:57 juli what can be the reason for that?
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14:22 Nigel_ Hi. Is it possible to change the tiles in the nodedef of a node in the world without removing or replacing the node?
14:22 DS-minetest no
14:22 DS-minetest well, you can colorize it
14:23 Nigel_ hmm. ok, thanks.
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15:07 Copenhagen_Bram Do you consider minetest to be actively developed? If so, how did so many people become interested in contributing to Minetest? How can I help another project gain contributors?
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15:26 juli Copenhagen_Bram: well maybe because they all wanted to play minecraft but don't want to use closed source :)
15:26 Copenhagen_Bram lol
15:27 Copenhagen_Bram but that would attract mostly players
15:27 Copenhagen_Bram dunno how many contributors that would attract
15:27 Copenhagen_Bram wait a minute
15:27 Copenhagen_Bram maybe minetest's modability attracts a lot of contributors?
15:29 Lone_Wolf Well, I wouldn't say a lot, but it has contributors
15:29 juli well the simplicity of lua may attract modders idk ..
15:29 Lone_Wolf I think most people contribute because they like having a coding project to work on and they like Minetest
15:30 Copenhagen_Bram hmm
15:30 Lone_Wolf Are we saying 'contributor' as in engine/mtg dev or modders/gamemakers?
15:30 Copenhagen_Bram engine
15:31 Lone_Wolf k
15:31 Copenhagen_Bram there's other game I really like and I wish it had more devs
15:31 Copenhagen_Bram ever heard of pioneer space simulator?
15:32 Lone_Wolf Nope
15:32 DS-minetest yes
15:32 juli Copenhagen_Bram: well it has 1/3 of the amount of contributors minetest has (on github)
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15:33 DS-minetest afaik, pioneer takes much time to clone, which is a bit unattractive
15:34 DS-minetest (I might be wrong)
15:34 Copenhagen_Bram how much does cloning time depend on internet bandwidth?
15:36 DS-minetest doesn't pioneer spacesim take much disk space?
15:36 Lone_Wolf I could probably beat everyone here in a 'slowest speed' test
15:38 Copenhagen_Bram wanna bet? what's your bandwidth right now?
15:39 Copenhagen_Bram and you're right, pioneer for linux is 413.98 MB
15:39 Lone_Wolf 6.13 Mbps download -|- 0.34 Mbps upload
15:40 Lone_Wolf Latency: 58 ms
15:40 DS-minetest wow, that is fast! Lone_Wolf
15:41 Copenhagen_Bram nope mine is slower
15:41 Copenhagen_Bram i mean nope you lost the slowest speed contest
15:41 Copenhagen_Bram lol
15:42 Copenhagen_Bram i know my latency is 600ms and my download is usually less than 1 mbps
15:42 Lone_Wolf google 'internet speed test'
15:42 Copenhagen_Bram but maybe that's because i use up all my satelite internet data every month
15:43 Lone_Wolf Mine is unlimited thankfully
15:43 Copenhagen_Bram i'm gonna use https://speedtest.fdossena.com/ cuz open source
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15:44 * DS-minetest just realizes that Mb is megabit and not megabyte, oops
15:44 Lone_Wolf heh
15:45 Lone_Wolf Download: 6.23 Mbps -|- Upload: 0.20 Mbps -|- Ping: 329.60 ms -|- Jitter: 64.31 ms
15:45 Lone_Wolf (From that link)
15:46 Copenhagen_Bram oof that ping
15:46 Copenhagen_Bram it's over half of mine
15:47 Copenhagen_Bram brb
15:47 Lone_Wolf I'm in the Western part of Oregon, I may be closer to Italy
15:47 Lone_Wolf cya
15:47 Lone_Wolf *America
15:47 Lone_Wolf idk why I said oregon lol
15:48 juli 6.13 mbps is fast? ...
15:49 juli well sorry i got 6.25mbps
15:49 juli download
15:49 juli and 1.25 upload
15:49 DS-minetest 6.13 MB/s would be fast
15:50 juli (50mbits/s)
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15:51 Copenhagen_Bram https://speedtest.fdossena.com/results/?id=1uc1aeu
15:51 Lone_Wolf I'm not good with the measurements, but it has been extremely slow before. It's also not steady. I sometimes get lag spikes when playing MT
15:53 Copenhagen_Bram What kind of internet are you using? Why the 300ms ping?
16:14 Lone_Wolf I'll just say it's the best we can get. And I think the ping has to do with where the speed test server was located
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16:32 Daisae Why do I not see branches in a git repository after checking it out?  I use git branch --list but see none.
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16:36 Lone_Wolf `lone_wolf@PC-LW:~/minetest$ git branch <\n> * master <\n>`
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16:39 Daisae I see the branch after I checkout it
16:48 Krock open .git/config. change fetch = +refs/heads/YOURBRANCH:refs/remotes/origin/YOURBRANCH to fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
16:48 Krock git fetch
16:48 Krock done
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17:58 lllI1I what is the standard way to have configurable mod settings for servers
18:01 Lone_Wolf settingtypes.txt
18:01 Krock settingtypes, so that admins can test it locally and upload the new mientset.conf
18:10 lllI1I can all current settingtypes be accessed by the lua api
18:10 Krock no, they're only for the All Settings formspec
18:10 Krock have no other functionality
18:10 lllI1I thinking of doing a server mod that'll have a per-client settings formspec
18:11 Krock except that all regular settings are server-wise
18:11 Krock *wide
18:11 lllI1I maybe each mod that supports it will register a tab with the settings they support
18:12 lllI1I some mods have per-player settings (e.g. mpd has configurable volume set by a command)
18:12 lllI1I command isn't as user-friendly though
18:13 lllI1I as a central settings window thing
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18:29 DELTA_FORCE login DELTA_FORCE t2/kg279Q
18:30 Lone_Wolf @DELTA_FORCE: Password change needed now :P
18:31 DELTA_FORCE Crap
18:31 DELTA_FORCE I hate my life
18:32 DELTA_FORCE I clicked this instead of CTF5
18:32 DELTA_FORCE What a bunch of garbage
18:32 Krock PWned
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18:32 DELTA_FORCE CRAP
18:32 DELTA_FORCE I CHANGED MY PASSWORD TO NILL
18:33 eukara haha
18:33 eukara rip delta.
18:33 Coder12 Hola
18:33 DELTA_FORCE Welp
18:33 DELTA_FORCE Now I can't change it
18:33 Lone_Wolf ?
18:33 DELTA_FORCE It keeps denying me
18:34 Lone_Wolf Login with it blank
18:34 DELTA_FORCE kk
18:34 Lone_Wolf 'it' as in the password field
18:34 DELTA_FORCE It works blank
18:34 Lone_Wolf So try leaving 'old password' blank when changing
18:34 DELTA_FORCE AAAAAAA
18:34 DELTA_FORCE IT RESET ME RANKINGS
18:35 Lone_Wolf ?
18:35 Lone_Wolf No, that's probably something else
18:35 Lone_Wolf You used the right nick?
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20:03 lllI1I what is that authentication system I've seen sometimes where the server asks me if I'm okay with creating an account instead of doing it automatically
20:04 Krock none
20:04 Krock standard mechanism, rather.
20:05 lllI1I I don't think I've seen that on my stock server though
20:05 Krock was it 5.0.0+?
20:05 lllI1I yes
20:05 Krock it's also skipped for local addresses
20:05 Krock so maybe that's why
20:06 lllI1I probably
20:10 sfan5 lllI1I: thats a client-side feature
20:14 lllI1I so it's not at all dependent on the server?
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