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00:13 makayabou rubenwardy: in your mod achievements, you created a function to save player's data in data.lua . I tried to re-use it and I can make it work for player's data in another mod I did.
00:13 rubenwardy use mod storage
00:13 rubenwardy !book storage
00:13 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Storage and Metadata - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book//en/map/storage.html
00:15 makayabou The problem is when I try to add a second storage:set_string . it only works with __player_data .. I know it's something basic I don't get, but could you explain me how local __player_data is getting populated when we just use save() ?
00:15 makayabou I don't get how the data we manipulated somewher else returns to local __player_data
00:17 makayabou it's something about Lua writing I don't understand, for sure.. i'm no dev..
00:19 makayabou and yes, I've read with deep attention your guides. but still.. sorry to bother but it's times i'm trying to understand your function in this mod..
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00:39 CStafford-14 Hello?
00:39 Emerald2 Hi CStafford-14
00:39 CStafford-14 Hi, Emerald2
00:40 Emerald2 Hey there. Do you need help with something?
00:47 makayabou he didn't..
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01:34 Emerald2 Yo ANAND. :)
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04:45 oil_boi Is it possible to set random facedir for decorations?
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06:02 trom_ is there a picture that explain methods for voxelManip ?
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06:11 ANAND Heya Emerald2!
06:12 Emerald2 Belated greetings. :)
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12:50 Emerald2 o/
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12:59 Jewson Hello
12:59 Jewson Anyone alive?
13:02 Emerald2 Hi Jewson. Need help?
13:02 Jewson Yes I want to get involved in minetest development (but not code wise)
13:02 Jewson I'm sound designer and I can help with sounds
13:03 Emerald2 Oooh. You'll be looking to talk to one of the developers then?
13:03 Jewson I don't know where to catch one
13:03 Emerald2 Hmm give me a min and I'll try find one. :)
13:04 Jewson Thank you :)
13:10 Emerald2 Bit tricky sometimes with different time zones.
13:11 Emerald2 Hey rubenwardy I see you browsing the forum, you here?
13:12 rubenwardy I am
13:13 rubenwardy nothing I can help with
13:13 rubenwardy just make replacement sounds for things in minetest_game/mods/default/sounds
13:14 Jewson ok
13:14 Jewson But where to send it tho?
13:15 kurtzmusch Jewson, since MT is an engine, the best thing you can do to the community is help people that makes the actual games with sounds and/or make avaiable a range of diferent sounds, like a texture pack, but for sounds
13:15 rubenwardy A PR or issue here: github.com/minetest/minetest_game
13:15 rubenwardy or that ^^^
13:15 kurtzmusch minetest_game is a good way to help becuase most mods derive from it
13:16 Emerald2 Thanks guys. :)
13:17 kurtzmusch emerald you stalker
13:18 kurtzmusch "hey ruben, i see you browsing the forums..."
13:18 kurtzmusch lel
13:18 rubenwardy bit creepy tbh
13:18 Emerald2 Sorry. XD
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13:23 twice http://forum.lytogame.com/showthread.php?108911-3.42-MB-Twice-Fancy-Mp3-Download-CEPAT-dan-GRATIS
13:23 twice http://forum.lytogame.com/showthread.php?108912-3.42-MB-Download-lagu-Twice-What-Is-Love-Mp3-CEPAT-dan-MUDAH
13:23 twice http://forum.lytogame.com/showthread.php?108913-2.94-MB-Download-lagu-Text-Cat-And-Dog-Mp3-Music-Fast-And-Free
13:23 twice http://forum.lytogame.com/showthread.php?108910-3.42-MB-Download-Lagu-Twice-Fancy-Mp3-Music-CEPAT-dan-GRATIS
13:23 twice was kicked by VanessaE: twice
13:23 Jewson What is this?
13:23 VanessaE it was spam
13:23 VanessaE thanks, hands were too slow
13:56 Jewson https://pastebin.com/pP3A4Vuh
13:56 Jewson Those are all the sounds I could find in 5.0.1 realese of minetest
13:56 Jewson Is that correct, or there is something more?
13:57 VanessaE looks right to me
13:58 Jewson If it is right. Can I ask someone please to send it to one of the devs so they can make based on that list a list of sounds and their description?
13:59 VanessaE I'm sure pull requests would be welcome :)
13:59 Jewson Because when making sounds like those it is crucial to know exactly what they are supposed to do.
14:00 Jewson *be.
14:00 VanessaE I dunno, they seem self-explanatory to me
14:01 rubenwardy ^
14:01 Jewson Which repo should I make pull request? Minetest, minetest_game?
14:01 VanessaE note that foo_[0-99999].png will be chosen-from randomly
14:01 Jewson They are not
14:01 rubenwardy play the game, if there's a sound that doesn't sound right, make a new one :P
14:01 Jewson Especially when they are named like walking1, walking2 etc
14:01 Jewson You get the idea
14:01 VanessaE yeah, like how we used to have a crumples paper sound on grass :)
14:01 VanessaE Jewson: again, numbers are random
14:02 VanessaE if you have foo_1, _2, _3, ... the engine just chooses from them randomly but they all have the same meaning for a given foo
14:02 Jewson Ok which repository to make pull request? Minetest, minetest_game or any other?
14:02 VanessaE mtg.
14:02 Jewson ok
14:08 Jewson Made and issue with polite request to make description to sounds
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17:00 stormchaser3000 and we have more spam in the builds section on the forums: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=22585 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=22584 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=22579 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=22568
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17:04 p_gimeno I сайт imagine how it got there
17:09 VanessaE I see no spam here :)
17:10 stormchaser3000 yep it was just removed :D
17:17 robdrake Hello VanessaE
17:18 robdrake anyway, I've ddg many wrong answers, what is the working way to get a minetest server to load a modpack that's in mods/
17:18 VanessaE hi
17:18 VanessaE robdrake: better to put the modpack in .minetest/worlds/YOUR_WORLD/worldmods
17:18 VanessaE then it just loads without further hassle
17:19 robdrake .minetest on a VPS for the server?
17:19 VanessaE no need to muck around with world.mt
17:19 VanessaE well whatever dir you keep your worlds in
17:19 robdrake ok
17:19 VanessaE ~/.minetest is just the default per-user for a global install
17:19 ShadowBot VanessaE: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
17:19 VanessaE shaddup you twit bot
17:20 VanessaE so on my servers for example, everything runs as user "minetest", and the minetest install is global, so all the worlds are in /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds
17:21 VanessaE and each world's mods are in /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/FOO_WORLD/worldmods
17:21 VanessaE it's just easier that way
17:21 robdrake thanks VanessaE
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17:35 mmuller I'm seeing a problem in 5.0.1 - other player models in multi-player are getting rendered 1 block low (they appear to be in the block they are standing on)
17:36 VanessaE bad mod
17:36 VanessaE look for any mods in your setup that alter the player model
17:36 mmuller yeah, I thought it might be the skins mod.
17:36 VanessaE like old versions of playeranim, armor, etc.
17:36 VanessaE that too
17:37 mmuller but then I just brought up a new world, same problem.
17:37 VanessaE (though usually a skin mod will just apply the image to the existing model without altering the model's properties)
17:37 mmuller might have had mods enabled, though
17:37 nri Hi, anyone want to check out my server forum topic and tell me if it needs any work? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=22587&p=349584#p349584
17:37 mmuller I'll check again.  Thanks, VanessaE
17:37 VanessaE mmuller: maybe you have too old a copy of minetest_game?
17:37 VanessaE nri: specify the port, too.  30000 isn't guaranteed :)
17:38 nri ok thnx
17:38 mmuller hmm, is that still a separate install?
17:38 VanessaE nri: and I suggest adding a [spoiler][/spoiler] section stating the mods you have installed.
17:38 nri ah ok thnx
17:38 VanessaE mmuller: it depends on your setup.  for me, it is.
17:38 VanessaE i.e. if you build from sources
17:39 mmuller yeah, I do
17:39 mmuller I'll check that, too.  thx
17:39 VanessaE and some distros may put the engine and minetest_game in separate packages
17:39 mmuller I'm sort of between distros atm ;-)
17:40 VanessaE nri: btw do I spot plantlife modpack in there? :)
17:40 VanessaE and homedecor too? :)
17:40 nri Well i have dreambuilder installed
17:40 VanessaE :D yay
17:40 VanessaE next!
17:40 VanessaE aw.
17:40 VanessaE !next
17:40 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
17:40 nri lol
17:41 mmuller hahe.  btw, VanessaE, thanks for that, too (dreambuilder) :-)
17:41 p_gimeno mmuller: since you're compiling from sources, the main question is whether you're configuring with RUN_IN_PLACE or not
17:41 VanessaE you're welcome :)
17:41 nri yah thanks
17:41 mmuller p_gimeno: yeah, not.
17:41 mmuller or rather, RUN_IN_PLACE=FALSE
17:41 VanessaE don't forget, I make updates to Dreambuilder often, though randomly.  there was an update early this morning.
17:42 nri ok
17:42 p_gimeno mmuller: then what VanessaE said is probably the location of your worlds
17:42 VanessaE and that update brings in The Big Home Decor Split
17:42 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=349701#p349701
17:43 nri ok
17:49 rubenwardy mmuller: I read some of your report the other day, good work
17:50 rubenwardy O_O
17:50 VanessaE lol
17:52 nri VanessaE: the only thing about dreambuilder is that some people complain about all the blcoks being cut already in the inventory. Im fine with it but some others arent....
17:52 mmuller rubenwardy: yeah, really glad to be done with that shit so I can get back to minetest
17:53 VanessaE nri: that's been fixed.  it was a brain-o in moreblocks that I worked-around last night (sorry Calinou...  it was a bad idea)
17:53 nri ah ok thnx
17:54 Calinou hmm, I thought I had reverted https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/commit/774c4043aae4979a69f31f914a3760cb9877f2de
17:54 Calinou it makes loading times quite longer too
17:54 Calinou but on the other hand, it's annoying not having them readily available
17:55 Calinou idea: in creative mode, have a /saw command that spawns the circular saw GUI anytime
17:55 VanessaE Calinou: nope, it's still there as of last night, but it was trivial to override for Dreambuilder.
17:55 VanessaE Calinou: invsaw mod for unified inventoryu
17:55 nri Where can i find the updated mod?
17:55 VanessaE -u
17:55 Calinou yeah, though I think having something like this OOTB would be nice
17:55 VanessaE nri: just update dreambuilder :)
17:55 nri ok
17:56 VanessaE Calinou: fwiw, I sed'ed one line in config.lua and overwrote settingtypes.txt, but only for the copy of Moreblocks supplied with DB
17:58 Calinou right
17:59 Calinou the /saw command could also be done with a `circular_saw` privilege
17:59 Calinou (in addition to creative mode)
17:59 VanessaE grrrr
17:59 VanessaE it's a TABLE saw >:(
18:00 Calinou or just `saw` but it's more difficult to understand without context :)
18:00 VanessaE (here, a "circular" saw generally refers the hand-held kind)
18:03 VanessaE anyways, you might like that mod
18:03 VanessaE https://cheapiesystems.com/git/invsaw/
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18:20 robdrake thank you for your help VanessaE
18:20 VanessaE you're welcome :)
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19:14 lllI1I is there a trivial way to have a variable cooldown on placing blocks in the world, such that for certain players/classes of players they can't place down builds as quickly as others?
19:21 robdrake ok, for my server, /spawn and /who are 'invalid command' ddg is not showing anyhing relevant, any ideas
19:43 nri you have to install a spawn mod
19:43 nri and maybe /who mod too
19:43 VanessaE I thought mtg came with a spawn mod?
19:43 nri i use /status in place of /who
19:43 VanessaE it does.
19:43 nri mine did not come with a spawn mod
19:44 VanessaE maybe yours is out of date :)
19:44 nri whats mtg?
19:44 VanessaE mtg = short for minetest_game
19:44 nri my server is 5.0.1
19:44 VanessaE server != game
19:44 nri what?
19:45 VanessaE the engine and mtg are separate projects
19:45 VanessaE and mtg only comes with the engine in limited cases
19:45 VanessaE most likely you'll need to update your copy.
19:45 nri oh ok
19:45 nri thnx
19:47 VanessaE (I think only on Windows and android
19:47 VanessaE (debian appears to put mtg into "minetest-data", for example)
19:47 nri oh i have ubuntu
19:48 VanessaE do you build from sources?
19:48 nri yes
19:48 robdrake ok thanks nri
19:49 nri np
19:49 robdrake and I'm running 5.0.1
19:49 robdrake compiled from source
19:49 VanessaE then for you guys, mtg is a separate download.
19:49 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
19:50 nri ahh ok
19:53 nri I already have that
19:56 VanessaE update it. :)
19:56 VanessaE make sure you're on the 'stable-5' branch
19:56 VanessaE of both it and the minetest engien.
19:56 VanessaE engine*
19:59 nri ok
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21:16 scr267 Anyone know moving blocks back with a sticky piston drags a player along?
21:17 scr267 Anyone know why*
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