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paramat |
changes to the 'stable mapgen' classification https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=346600#p346600 |
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paramat |
^ clavi |
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paramat |
it's spring equinox today (20th march) ^_^ |
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MinetestBot |
ANAND: Mar-19 17:43 UTC <Fixer> minecraft has a mod, that when you twerk a bit while holding shift you can fart and use that as bonemeal to grow stuff, sometimes it produces shit |
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GreenDimond |
I didnt need to know this |
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ANAND |
lol Fixer :P |
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benrob0329 |
So the pooper mod, but worse |
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ANAND |
Context: https://content.minetest.net/packages/brylie/manners/ |
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erstazi |
Is there a list for what minetest versions are associated with the network protocols? I am wondering what the Max Protocol of 27 would be. |
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ANAND |
erstazi: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/network/networkprotocol.h |
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ANAND |
That's a list of network protocols, with a short description of changes for each version |
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ANAND |
But there's no list of network protocols with the MT version they're associated with, AFAIK |
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ANAND |
One way (probably the only way) to answer your question would be to browse through the history of that file |
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erstazi |
ANAND: thanks. I have been looking at the networkprotocol.h. Trying to figure out why a server is saying 0.4.13, 0.4.14, 0.4.15, 0.4.16, 0.4.17-1 and so on is saying: "Access denied. Reason: Protocol not supported" for everyone (including on the forum for the server) and yet there seem to be people on (probably bots) |
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erstazi |
(not my server) |
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erstazi |
The proto_max is 27 and proto_min is 13. 0.4.17-1 should work with it. It did before however it isn't accepting any version I mentioned above. |
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ANAND |
Going through the history of that file, it looks like the 0.4.x series (all versions interoperable with each other) supports a min version of 24 and a max version of 35 |
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erstazi |
Right |
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ANAND |
Is the server running 5.0.0? |
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erstazi |
Nah, I tried 5.1.0-dev |
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erstazi |
I can try 5.0.0 (: |
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ANAND |
There shouldn't be any broken compat between minor versions, you'll probably get the same results |
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ANAND |
Is the server probably running 0.3.x? o_O |
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erstazi |
Haha |
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erstazi |
I wouldn't know... it is running 0.4.14-dev |
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erstazi |
just odd that no one can connect to it but there seem to be some connecting to it |
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ANAND |
Weird |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Document 'highly unstable' mapgens instead of 'stable' mapgens (#8404) 38ea089 https://git.io/fjfZ9 (2019-03-20T04:37:33Z) |
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p_gimeno |
what units is emergeblocks radius? |
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ANAND |
Mapblocks, AFAIK |
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p_gimeno |
yuck |
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ANAND |
AFAIK :) |
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p_gimeno |
I started an update with radius 500 and it seemed a bit slow |
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ANAND |
What's the default value? |
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p_gimeno |
it doesn't say |
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ANAND |
Oh |
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p_gimeno |
hm, but it seems to be in nodes |
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p_gimeno |
"Started emerge of area ranging from (-2862.5,-468.7,-727.2) to (-1862.5,531.3,272.8)" |
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p_gimeno |
I guess I should specify positions if I don't want so much height generated |
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p_gimeno |
eep! crashed |
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p_gimeno |
src/emerge.cpp:391: bool EmergeManager::popBlockEmergeData(v3s16, BlockEmergeData*): Assertion `count_peer != 0' failed. |
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p_gimeno |
Aborted |
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sfan5 |
there's an issue open for that |
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p_gimeno |
oh, this is 0.4.16, so is it still unfixed? |
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scr267 |
I can't find anyway to enable a texture pack on the 5.0 client |
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scr267 |
has the feature been moved somewhere ? |
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rubenwardy |
scr267: content tab, click "enable texture pack" |
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rubenwardy |
bottom-right |
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scr267 |
Ok ill double check that thank you |
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rubenwardy: Odd - I don't see that at all in the 'content' tab. |
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scr267 |
I see the 'installed packages' field which show all the mods on the left, then 'browse online content' and 'uninstall package' buttons... and an information field. |
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scr267 |
thats it. |
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rubenwardy |
scr267: you need to select the texture pack first |
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scr267 |
You mean it should be in the list on the left hand side? |
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scr267 |
I don't see it, which means I probably didn't install it properly |
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rubenwardy |
scr267: https://i.rubenwardy.com/pLyos.png |
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rubenwardy |
scr267: if you don't see any texture packs in the list, they've been installed wrong |
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rubenwardy |
they will be green |
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scr267 |
rubenwardy, thanks... It's a custom pack I'm creating to test a texture... so I think I messed up the paths. |
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scr267 |
rubenwardy, yeah totally wrong path sorry to have bugged you... its pretty obvious now |
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scr267 |
I was working off a separate built minetest game, so I had to use the build path's minetest folder as opposed to ~/.minetest |
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JDCodeIt |
I found a mod that is doing file persistence of some mod-specific lua tables on_global_step - this seems like bad practice. Usually one can capture the state of the system using on_shutdown. |
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JDCodeIt |
Other mods I've seen do a timer-related write to files, but again, I'm not sure this is necessary - is there a significant chance that a crash will not call the on_shutdown callbacks? |
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TheAwesomeDog |
hi everyone |
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Zeth_ |
Hi |
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argyle77 |
What is minetest.settings:write() actually supposed to do? It doesn't actually seem to be writing my changed setting into minetest.conf, but it is returning true. |
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IhrFussel |
JDCodeIt, any segfault will skip that callback for once ... and there have been many cases on my server at least where the callback was not executed even though the error was 'just' a lua crash |
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IhrFussel |
So don't rely on just that callback...it's good to save changes regularly to file... not every step, that is totally wasting resources |
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IhrFussel |
Depending on what the lua table holds saving whenever that table changes sounds like a good plan... but if that happens too often it could be too much ... 'areas' does it in a very good way...whenever a protection is added/removed/modified it saves to file and only then |
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ANAND |
argyle77: :write() is supposed to immediately flush the settings object to minetest.conf |
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ANAND |
without which, the settings object will only be flushed on server shutdown |
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p_gimeno |
oh speaking of texture packs... using green text for both active mods and (active or inactive) texture packs looks pretty inconsistent |
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ANAND |
Agreed |
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rubenwardy |
Agreed |
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rubenwardy |
shoot the idiot that did thar |
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* p_gimeno |
loads his 'git blame' gun |
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ANAND |
Only a git will blame people for the bad things that happen :) |
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Edgy1 |
hey, has there been any previous issues with not being able to break beds in minetest 5.1? |
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galaxie |
Hi, I'm trying to program my first mod, and mesh, and it works, except that whenever I try to dig it with my hands it pops right back up?? |
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galaxie |
Oh, and here's the code. I don't think anything's wrong with the mesh itself. https://pastebin.com/zUV7H8Dm |
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JDCodeIt |
I tried the new android client - does anyone else think that long-press is a strange way to try to "hit" something, especially if that thing is moving? |
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galaxie |
Mobile sucks in general. |
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JDCodeIt |
Best to list the things that "suck" and fix them then. |
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Jordach |
the solution is to simply get a cheap thinkpad or desktop |
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Jordach |
infinitely better experience, and for about the same price of a tablet |
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galaxie |
ThinkPad's are amazing. |
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* Jordach |
laughs in XPS 15 |
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galaxie |
I wonder if pmOS has gotten a MT client working.. that'd be cool. |
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JDCodeIt |
Can the actions be remapped as with keys in the other client? |
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Jordach |
galaxie, MT android does support x86 |
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Jordach |
so mayyyyyyyyyyyybe |
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p_gimeno |
galaxie: diggable = false? |
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galaxie |
?? pmOS is Linux, not Android. |
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ShadowBot |
galaxie: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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galaxie |
p_gimeno: Wow, silly me. Is there like an on_dig function somewhere I can override? |
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p_gimeno |
galaxie: what are you trying to do? |
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galaxie |
p_gimeno: Small tic-tac-toe game. I want it to where you can 'dig' a piece but only put it down on a specified board. |
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p_gimeno |
there is an on_dig indeed, https://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node#on_dig |
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p_gimeno |
but that would not cover putting it down on a specific board |
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galaxie |
Is there some mod out there that has board games and stuff in it? I've seen myboardgames but that doesn't check for bounds and stuff. |
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p_gimeno |
I've made a digilines-based mod that allows tic tac toe but I guess that's not what you're after |
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p_gimeno |
https://notabug.org/pgimeno/digiplay/wiki/Multi-Colour%20Light |
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p_gimeno |
it's played with colour tiles, not X's and O's |
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galaxie |
Nodes aren't able to be used by default? Like concerning register_node.on_use... |
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Hijiri |
I don't think there's anything called register_node.on_use |
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galaxie |
It says it right on the page. |
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Hijiri |
which page |
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p_gimeno |
https://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node#on_use |
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Hijiri |
that doesn't say register_node.on_use |
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Hijiri |
that says on_use as part of the node definition, which is a table that is not register_node |
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galaxie |
How would I make a node indestructable? Like, can't be trashed in inventory, blown up, etc. |
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galaxie |
Hijiri: Sorry, force of habit. |
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Hijiri |
I'm not sure it's possible, since some mod could always delete the node |
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Hijiri |
and I don't think any of the popular inventory mods allow any way to make an item not trashable |
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Hijiri |
also on_use is called when you left click with the node |
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Hijiri |
normally if it's not defined the user just starts digging |
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Hijiri |
if you define on_use left clicking does that thing instead of digging |
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galaxie |
Hmmm, how about I do that and make it so that you'd have to click a node on the board and that moves the node? |
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Hijiri |
on_use is called for the node in your hand |
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Hijiri |
not one in the world |
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p_gimeno |
punch (don't dig) node, punch destination |
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p_gimeno |
or right click node, right click destination |
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galaxie |
I guess override both, then. |
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p_gimeno |
destination should be a special node that can mutate to a piece |
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Hijiri |
I don't know why you would need to override on_use |
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galaxie |
I'll override on_punch and the right-click one. |
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galaxie |
So for register_node, where you can set light_source to a number, where can I set it again given a reference to the node? |
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VanessaE |
you can change the value of param1 |
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VanessaE |
but it doesn't really work liek that |
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VanessaE |
like* |
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VanessaE |
normally, you can only set it once, in the node def, so a light source normally can't change brightness on the fly. |
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galaxie |
Ah, that's too bad. Perhaps a work-around? Like re-creating the node?? |
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galaxie |
Also, any way in Lua to set something to a reference of a function? Like: on_punch = &punch_replacement or something? |
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sfan5 |
on_punch = function(...) return punch_replacement(unpack(...)) end |
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sfan5 |
^ galaxie |
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sfan5 |
if you change punch_replacement, on_punch will also cause the changed function to be called |
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galaxie |
What DOES register_node do? I noticed that if I changed some code in it and reload the world the nodes that have already been placed change. |
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p_gimeno |
param1 and param2 are properties of the node, each a single byte |
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p_gimeno |
the rest of properties are defined in register_node (roughly) |
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p_gimeno |
the param1 and param2 values in register_node are the values to initialize them when you place the node |
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galaxie |
But if they are already placed... why does it replace whatever properties those placed nodes already have? |
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sfan5 |
when you place nodes you place a "default:stone" |
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sfan5 |
register_node changes what exactly "default:stone" means |
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argyle77 |
register_node defines their basic physical properties, globally within the universe |
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argyle77 |
If you change that between runs, they will behave differently between runs. |
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galaxie |
Alright, makes sense. |
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kaeza |
,99[19:12] ,99 3,99<,99sfan5>,99 on_punch = function(...) return punch_replacement(unpack(...)) end → remove the unpack call |
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sfan5 |
oh is unpack not needed here? |
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sfan5 |
been a long time since I seriously used Lua |
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p_gimeno |
I think in lua 5.0 you used unpack(arg) |
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p_gimeno |
in 5.1 you can use ... directly |
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edugaming |
hello |
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edugaming |
there are somebody who can help me to install new version of minetest on Mac |
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sfan5 |
looke like there isn't |
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sfan5 |
I don't think you're the first to ask about this, have you looked if someone's posted a solution on the forums? |
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