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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-03-11

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09:39 batman_ what's the point of a tar knife?
09:40 batman_ I noticed it whilst playing on foz's server
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09:46 Emerald2 I never figured out what the tar knife was supposed to do.
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10:40 ANAND Same here
10:41 ANAND It's a part of homedecor IIRC
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11:36 andirc8080 when I '/grant singleplayer all' in 5.0.0 and press 'j' key - this doesn't seem to increase walking speed ... (in 0.4.17.1 it did work ...) - is there some new config option?
11:37 Emerald2 Do you hold down 'e' or enable fly as well?
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11:42 andirc8080 Emerald2: ok, when I hold down 'e' it does speed up ...
11:42 Emerald2 That is how fast has worked as long as I can remember it.
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16:51 Hidan_ Hello, I have been playing the 5.0.0 version for a few hours and have a question about the new feature: Can you farm blueberries bushes? I want to build a farm in singleplayer and do not want to use mods. How do you get seedling for blueberries?
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16:51 nri Hello
16:51 Hidan_ hi
16:51 nri Shara: Can you please inform me when RedCat is updating to  minetest v5?
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17:04 JDCodeIt Any special tricks to having your entity follow a path that involves jumping or climbing? Simple stepheight = 1.1 doesn't seem to cause the entity to step up one node...
17:05 swift110 hey all
17:13 Shara Incase nri checks the logs: when it's less broken and when I have a lot more time.
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18:18 nri Shara: Thanks
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18:32 nri Hello FrostRanger
18:33 FrostRanger hello, do I know you?
18:34 nri no yust saying hi
18:34 FrostRanger ah ok
18:34 nri *just
18:35 nri What server do you play on?
18:35 nri I play on RedCat
18:35 FrostRanger I mostly play on blocky survival
18:35 nri ah ok
18:35 nri I played there once ..... I think
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18:36 FrostRanger I'm one of the mods there
18:36 nri NIce
18:36 nri Hello riff
18:43 nri Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz (2.50GHz) • Memory: 3.9 GiB Total (998.7 MiB Free) • Storage: 68.5 GiB / 110.4 GiB (41.9 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 • Uptime: 2d 20h 47m 51s
18:43 FrostRanger not bad
18:44 nri What?
18:44 FrostRanger the specs you posted
18:44 nri oh opps
18:44 nri lol
18:45 nri I was testing settings
18:45 FrostRanger I am running a hp laptop with an amd raedon r5 processor, 8gigs of ram with linux mint xfce installed
18:45 FrostRanger ah
18:46 nri Nice system
18:46 FrostRanger thx
18:46 nri Do u know any Lua?
18:46 FrostRanger not really
18:46 nri i know just a little
18:47 rubenwardy nri: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2019-03-11#i_5509549
18:48 nri rubenwardy: Ive seen that before
18:49 nri But thx
18:50 rubenwardy nri: just wanted to make sure that Shara's reply got to you
18:50 nri rubenwardy ok thanks i say it
18:50 nri *saw
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18:54 nri rubenwardy: what chat client do you think is best?
18:54 nri *software
18:54 rubenwardy For IRC?
18:54 rubenwardy Quassel
18:54 rubenwardy loads well
18:54 rubenwardy for anything other than IRC?
18:54 rubenwardy FIrefox
18:55 nri oh ok thanks
18:55 rubenwardy A while ago I was looking for the One Unified Chat Client, to use all chat platforms from one program
18:56 rubenwardy I then reached enlightenment when I realised that unified chat client was a web browser
18:56 GreenDimond One client to rule them all
18:56 rubenwardy exactly
18:56 nri ok
18:56 rubenwardy and this is why I refuse to install Discord for Desktop
18:56 GreenDimond I just have 2 clients
18:56 GreenDimond doesnt bother me none
18:56 GreenDimond Got HexChat and Discord
18:57 nri I have hexchat
18:58 rubenwardy Quassel is way better
18:58 rubenwardy you need to host your own Quassel server though
18:58 rubenwardy so that it can store the messages when you go offline
18:59 GreenDimond I see that and think "Why would I install Croissant"
18:59 rubenwardy Que?
18:59 Ingar weechat
18:59 GreenDimond Quassel sounds similar to Croissant
19:00 GreenDimond So now I want a chat client called Croissant
19:00 nri Well i dont have a server so i cant use Quassel
19:08 p_gimeno pidgin seems to have a plugin with discord support
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19:12 nri rubenwardy: i like your NodeBoxEditor program :p
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19:15 rubenwardy Thanks
19:15 nri I like all your stuff :p
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19:37 nri rubenwardy: In your modding book i was looking at the licenses part. If i was making a mod would i just copy one of the licenses you referenced to from online and put it in my mymod/license.txt ?
19:37 nri are they just free to use?
19:56 Ingar nri: it probably depends on the license
19:56 Ingar (I know this sounds trollish, but it isnt)
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20:35 Calinou nri: pretty much, you should also add a license header at the top of each source file to ensure files aren't detached from the license they're under
20:36 Calinou some licenses have standard header texts, see https://choosealicense.com/
20:36 Calinou some don't, so you can either add the full copy (possible for short licenses like MIT or ISC) or an one-liner like a copyright statement suffixed with "MIT License", which is better than nothing
20:39 nri k thx
20:57 JDCodeIt Question about an entity position - is this one corner of the object or the center?
21:01 kaeza It's a point. Its location depends on the hitbox/selection box.
21:02 rubenwardy it depends on the object model
21:02 rubenwardy for the player model, it's the feet
21:02 kaeza For players I think it's the center of the... That
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21:15 JDCodeIt OK, collisionbox like this: {-0.35,-1.0,-0.35, 0.35,0.8,0.35}
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21:15 JDCodeIt is that centered in x/z or do I need to check the model *.x file
21:16 p_gimeno that means the position is 1m above ground, and centred in the top view
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22:38 jrmiller Hey everyone, I am having an issue with the new minetest update 5.0.0, would someone be willing to help?
22:38 rubenwardy sure
22:38 jrmiller thanks
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22:40 jrmiller alright, i sent you the details
22:41 jrmiller oh wait one seccond im not logged in
22:43 jrmiller nevermind... i cant seem to loggin, ill post it here
22:43 jrmiller When i launch or join a world, i start walking and my vision is turned to the sky
22:43 jrmiller and when i try to correct it, it goes right back to that
22:43 rubenwardy are you using wayland?
22:43 jrmiller i checked the settings for the autoforward, and its off..
22:43 sfan5 sounds like mouse-locking isn't working
22:44 rubenwardy are you walking forwards with no input?
22:44 jrmiller what i wayland?
22:44 jrmiller yes i am giving no imput
22:44 jrmiller and my mouse and keyboard work fine with other games
22:44 rubenwardy try setting "enable_joysticks" to false
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22:44 rubenwardy in advanced settings
22:45 rubenwardy and then restart Minetest
22:45 rubenwardy and try it
22:45 jrmiller oh i did enable that, i have a controller i was trying to use
22:45 rubenwardy that's probably why then
22:45 rubenwardy the joystick code some times detects mouse pads a joystick
22:46 rubenwardy as a*
22:46 jrmiller would the controller work without that feature
22:46 rubenwardy and then the threshold is too low, so it moves without input
22:46 rubenwardy well, controllers don't work *with* that feature either
22:46 jrmiller ahh ok thanks
22:46 rubenwardy controller input in Minetest sucks
22:46 rubenwardy source: I wrote it
22:46 jrmiller ok so i should be able to just attach it?
22:46 rubenwardy as in, I wrote the feature
22:46 sfan5 irrlicht bug?
22:46 jrmiller lol
22:47 rubenwardy because OS support for controllers sucks
22:47 jrmiller yeah
22:47 jrmiller ok ill try it, thanks
22:47 rubenwardy platforms like Unity and SDL get around this by having a massive fat database of all possible controllers
22:48 jrmiller lol
22:49 jrmiller ok yeah it stopped moving me, thanks, im going to try it with a controller now
22:49 rubenwardy controllers won't work with enable_joysticks=false
22:49 rubenwardy you should probably use an external binding program for it
22:53 rubenwardy fixing this to work minus GUI support wouldn't be impossible, just a bit of work
22:53 rubenwardy making it work with GUI support would be very painful
22:53 rubenwardy unless you just make it work like a mouse
22:56 jrmiller lol ok could you help me find a external binding program?
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23:07 jrmiller cya bye
23:08 jas_ rubenwardy: i thought est31 did controller input
23:09 * rubenwardy checks
23:13 jas_ that feature is three years old in may
23:14 jas_ hard to believe, heh
23:14 rubenwardy you're right, I got confused between project
23:15 rubenwardy I just extended it #5506
23:15 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5506 -- Add Joystick type detection and Xbox controller support by rubenwardy
23:16 jas_ time flies...
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