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MinetestBot |
[git] osjc -> minetest/minetest: Optimize subgames search a little bit (#8096) 6e37fdc https://git.io/fhRkm (2019-01-18T09:47:50Z) |
| 09:54 |
Xiong |
In vanilla 5.0.0 w/ v7, at what depth is max abundance reached for all things? |
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Xiong |
There have been changes; so far, I think, good. |
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twoelk |
-1024 probably |
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twoelk |
or have diamonds been pushed down? |
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twoelk |
Xion: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2019-01-16#i_5480823 |
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* twoelk |
feels like carrying owls to Athens |
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Xiong |
twoelk I wonder about ds too. Mm, don't think meseblock even starts above -2000. |
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Xiong |
I have taken exactly 2 ds around -1150... none before or since. I'm told no mese at all above -512; this fits experience. |
| 12:17 |
Xiong |
Yes paramat spoke to my initial confusion. I didn't think to ask about greater depths and max. |
| 12:18 |
Xiong |
I think there may have always been an emergent effect, in which *effective* abundance does not follow generation |
| 12:23 |
Xiong |
That's to say, for example, the walls and floors of a cave may have the same abundance of iron as solid rock does a hundred meters over at same depth. (Counting the air pocket, average abundance much less!) But because the volume of air exposes so much surface area to view, effective abundance is higher (richer yield per hour). |
| 12:28 |
Xiong |
That's just one example. Once, another experienced player suggested iron (eg) might be less common at great depth because the mese crowds it out. Obviously if the generator randomly places mese without regard to the iron it just placed, this is true. Not sure of the practical effect. |
| 12:28 |
Xiong |
Still interested: |
| 12:29 |
Xiong |
In vanilla 5.0.0 w/ v7, at what depth is max abundance reached for all things? |
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calcul0n |
i never had this feeling about iron |
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calcul0n |
even if it's crowded by mese it's also much more frequent at big depths |
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Xiong |
If I've failed to be clear... a depth below which the world is, at large scale, homogeneous. |
| 12:32 |
Xiong |
calcul0n Do you believe... independent of params set for individual ores... v7 steadily increases ore abundance with depth, without limit? |
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calcul0n |
iirc v7 in mt 0.4 has a max at -1024 |
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calcul0n |
but i know nothing about changes in MT 5 |
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Xiong |
Yes well. Wave of the future. |
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Xiong |
Given the reluctance of devs even to acknowledge suggestions about it, I'd guess 5.0.0 is nearly frozen, rollout soon. |
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rubenwardy |
5.0.0 is in feature freeze |
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rubenwardy |
so bug fixes only |
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Xiong |
That's great rubenwardy. Sooner 5.0.0 is out, sooner longstanding issues can be fixed in 5.1 |
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Xiong |
I'd really like to see a release where all effort has gone into usability, all the nasty little gubbins and dev stuff properly flagged away. |
| 12:39 |
Xiong |
Meanwhile yes, I see significant improvements, even in the neglected Android version. |
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Xiong |
Oof! I thought I'd mine some more but it's time to eat real food. |
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paramat |
"In vanilla 5.0.0 w/ v7, at what depth is max abundance reached for all things?" Xiong , https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/a2c9523bce5bcefdc930ff6f14d6d94f57473be9/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L898 y = -4096 for mese block higher density |
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Xiong |
Thanks paramat. Has this been tested and, if so, how? |
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Xiong |
Gotta try reboot. |
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paramat |
tested? |
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rubenwardy |
the setting I guess |
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paramat |
hmm well we didn't test the new ore y limits, because y limits are known to already work |
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swift110 |
hmm |
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swift110 |
sup rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
o/ |
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rubenwardy |
exams :( |
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swift110 |
oh i see |
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swift110 |
have you done any more documents on minetest like you did before |
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rubenwardy |
huh? |
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rubenwardy |
do you mean the modding book? |
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rubenwardy |
!book |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Minetest Modding Book - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ |
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swift110 |
yes |
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Ruslan1 |
Hello |
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Xiong |
Hi! |
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Xiong |
What's your thought for today? |
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