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14:30 lxleuser_ hi
14:30 jas_ lo
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14:40 InventorX Does anyone have any idea why I might not be able to chat on my own server?
14:40 jas_ is it up?
14:40 InventorX yes IXland
14:41 jas_ are you connected?
14:41 InventorX yes
14:41 jas_ can you see the output of /status?
14:41 jas_ (next question: can you check your /privs?)
14:41 InventorX never tryed
14:42 InventorX i have shout
14:42 InventorX and all other privs
14:43 Glorfindel are you sure you aren't able to chat then?
14:43 InventorX yes i gave them books to ask them and they said no
14:43 jas_ haha
14:44 InventorX everyone else can chat
14:44 Glorfindel are they pranking you?
14:44 InventorX yust me and my second accnt
14:44 jas_ any mods?
14:44 InventorX yes a lot (no pranking)
14:44 jas_ well, any that modify register_on_chat_message?
14:45 jas_ do you have a priv called "noshout" or something?
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14:46 InventorX i don't know about register on chat message
14:48 jas_ it's possible there's a mod restricting your chat messages.  i don't have any other ideas.
14:49 InventorX the mods I have are 3d_armor, areas, bitchange, castle_gates, cozy, hud_hunger,mesecons,milepick,multidimensions,myArcade,simple_skins,smartshop,wordedit
14:49 jas_ it's probably cozy, i'd remove that one
14:50 jas_ just kidding.  i still dunno.  what version of hud_hunger?  tenplus1? or original
14:50 jas_ i made a fork of that one too
14:50 InventorX idk
14:50 jas_ ok here are some things i would try:
14:51 jas_ 1) joining with two clients, Client01, and Client02; chatting and observing behavior
14:51 jas_ 2) /shutdown
14:51 jas_ sometimes you just gotta restart the thing
14:51 InventorX i reset it twice
14:51 jas_ did you try #1?
14:51 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
14:51 InventorX i will try chatting
14:51 jas_ ok good ty
14:53 InventorX ummm okay so i can chat. i just can't see what i'm saying
14:53 jas_ two clients simultaneously?
14:53 jas_ chatting to each other?  you cannot see the text?  perhaps it's a font_* setting.
14:53 InventorX yes InventorX, WasdAcid
14:54 jas_ i dunno.  maybe try clearing minetest client .conf
14:54 jas_ it's interesting.  you should do a video, that'd be fun
14:54 InventorX Example
14:54 InventorX InventorX says hello
14:54 jas_ (hi)
14:54 InventorX his chat window says nothing
14:55 jas_ but on InventorX screen you can see it like it was sent?
14:55 InventorX WasdAcid recives hello in his chat
14:55 jas_ oh oh
14:55 InventorX no
14:55 jas_ so they see it, but YOU don't
14:55 InventorX yes
14:55 jas_ huh
14:55 jas_ that IS perplexing!
14:55 InventorX some guy is on my server stareing at me
14:55 InventorX he hit me with a sword
14:56 InventorX one client crashed
14:57 InventorX other says ERROR[Main]: SQlite3 database has been locked for 3000 ms this creates lag
14:57 jas_ very bizarre.  what about this guy with the sword?
14:58 InventorX umm yust some guy on the server
14:58 InventorX he has tnt
14:58 jas_ not just some guy!
14:58 jas_ if he has tnt!
14:58 jas_ that's a good feature
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14:59 InventorX so... i hit it with a torch trying to distroy it.
14:59 jas_ i enabled it on my server, it's off by default unless you play singleplayer?
14:59 InventorX I enabled it on mine
15:00 jas_ i haven't checked recently.  it's almost a hidden feature
15:00 InventorX fifth time i've done that though
15:00 jas_ but now it explodes items out of some things, and may honor protection?  i'd like to turn that off
15:00 InventorX yeah
15:00 jas_ but then not much point to protection
15:00 InventorX search tnt i settings
15:01 InventorX what's your server
15:01 jas_ which also i'd like to turn off, but then not much point in building anything.  haha!  but on my server i don't think anyone's joined except one guy but he lagged out
15:01 jas_ !server jas0
15:01 MinetestBot jas_: Glitchtest [jas0] | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/15, 0/1 | Version: 5.0.0-dev / minetest | Ping: 129ms
15:01 jas_ it's dev version tho
15:01 InventorX mines 4.16
15:01 jas_ they have 0.4.17.1 now
15:01 jas_ if you're interested
15:01 jas_ maybe that might help your issue?
15:06 InventorX i i'll try later thanks
15:06 InventorX it's 10 i have to get off
15:06 InventorX join my server sometime
15:06 jas_ ok cya later bye
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15:23 Glorfindel !up gloomweaver.duckdns.org
15:23 MinetestBot gloomweaver.duckdns.org:30000 is up (137ms)
15:27 jas_ GLOOMWEAVER that is a badass name
15:27 Glorfindel heh
15:27 Glorfindel from the Silmarillion
15:27 jas_ gloomweaver
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15:53 Glorfindel !server Gloomweaver
15:53 MinetestBot Glorfindel: Gloomweaver | 198.71.63.94 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 145ms
15:53 Glorfindel there, now it's public
15:54 Glorfindel there, now it's public
15:54 Glorfindel oops
15:54 Glorfindel !server Gloomweaver
15:54 MinetestBot Glorfindel: Gloomweaver | 198.71.63.94 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 134ms
15:54 Glorfindel hm
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17:22 Jacob843 because don't ask orwell have to kill you
17:22 Jacob843 merijn: sounds good. just asking because you wrote plural "various (closable) STM channels"
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18:02 Billre Hi
18:02 Glorfindel how does one find the itemstrings by perusing the code?
18:03 Billre Is it possible to get part of a message in luacontrollers?  like "uput default:cobble" and all I want is "uput"
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18:19 Billre after a bit more googling, I finally found string.sub, which is doing the job.
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18:29 IhrFussel !tell InventorX That is not a bug, but rather an intended change... until 0.4.16 I think the client displayed its own messages after submitting but now the client does not do that anymore and relies on the server to resend its message else the message cannot be seen in 0.4.16+ anymore ... I'm guessing it's a mod that causes the message to not be resend to the sender
18:29 MinetestBot IhrFussel: I'll pass that on when InventorX is around
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19:28 Glorfindel what is the recommended program for generating maps of a server from the server its self?
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19:58 Krock Glorfindel: are you looking for a mod?
19:58 Krock if not, then minetestmapper
19:59 Glorfindel is that apt installable?
20:00 jacky I don't think so
20:00 jacky nope
20:02 Glorfindel hmm
20:03 Glorfindel alright, I'll look that up after I finish checking out another option, thanks
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20:37 wishi Stop hiding everybody nobody cares.
20:37 wishi I want the index of "c" => in this case 6.
20:37 wishi c for crops
20:39 Krock I AM NOT HIDING (anymore). JUST SHOUTING OK?
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21:20 Human_G33k Hello
21:21 Glorfindel hi
21:21 Human_G33k I need a little help
21:21 Human_G33k how can (if in can) activate mod for minetest server from debian repository
21:22 Human_G33k i already apt install what i want
21:22 Human_G33k i can connect from my cli
21:23 Human_G33k i need cp mod files or add some confline in /etc/minetest/minetest.conf
21:24 Glorfindel the way I install mods is thusly: find on github/wherever -> wget %direct link% -> mv files to ./.minetest/mods/ renaming them so that there are no en dashes
21:25 Glorfindel I check to make sure there aren't any subfolders with ls
21:25 Glorfindel and then I modify the world.mt file to set them to "true" (make sure the server is not running!)
21:26 Human_G33k ok
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21:26 Glorfindel there's probably an easier way, but that's always worked for me
21:26 Human_G33k if i found one
21:26 Human_G33k i will say how
21:31 IhrFussel Glorfindel, if you are okay with mods per world you can simply put the mod folders into worldname/worldmods
21:31 IhrFussel Oops Human_G33k *
21:31 Human_G33k :)
21:31 Glorfindel is there an advantage to that?
21:32 IhrFussel Yes no need to enable them in any file
21:32 IhrFussel They are auto-enabled
21:32 Glorfindel ahh
21:32 Glorfindel still requires minetest server restart though?
21:32 IhrFussel Would be terrible to put 180 lines in my .conf just for enabling all my server mods
21:33 IhrFussel Yes you cannot load mod during runtime
21:33 Human_G33k So
21:33 Human_G33k the best way
21:33 Human_G33k i need to test if it work
21:33 Human_G33k but
21:33 Human_G33k look like should be
21:34 Human_G33k from debian stable
21:34 Human_G33k apt install minetest-server
21:34 IhrFussel Shouldn't matter I think...MT will always check for worldname/worldmods mods
21:34 Human_G33k apt install minetest-mod-namemod
21:34 Glorfindel IhrFussel: I didn't edit all the lines in my world.mt file either, I set up the world locally and uploaded, much faster
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21:35 Human_G33k service minetest-server
21:35 Human_G33k service minetest-server stop
21:35 Human_G33k edit /etc/minetest/minetest.conf
21:35 IhrFussel I don't think yu should install mods via apt...it#s easier to fetch them from github/notabug etc
21:35 Glorfindel I've only edited for when I added two additional mods that I had forgotten. But thanks for the tip! I'll be using that in the future
21:36 Human_G33k (most important line is ip )
21:36 Human_G33k edit /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/world/world.mt
21:36 Human_G33k and put line to true
21:36 Human_G33k (mods one ofc)
21:37 Human_G33k and
21:37 IhrFussel wget https://github.com/minetest-mods/modname/archive/master.zip; unzip master.zip; (rename if needed) mv modfolder worlds/worldname/worldmods; done
21:37 Human_G33k service minetest start
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21:38 Glorfindel do as IhrFussel sez, human
21:38 Human_G33k I don’t like to use something else than apt for security reason
21:38 Human_G33k and it’s easiest to maintain
21:38 IhrFussel But also most likely outdated
21:39 Glorfindel most aren't apt-get able last time I checked
21:39 Human_G33k security/stability always prior to fresh (for me)
21:39 IhrFussel Almost every mod is open source so you can just read the code and look for malicious stuff
21:40 IhrFussel MT runs every mod in a sand box AFAIK so it's pretty much impossible to break out of it UNLESS the mod uses a special function...I think minetest.request_insecure_environment()
21:43 Human_G33k i will see
21:43 Human_G33k the main purpose for now is testing :)
21:43 IhrFussel It should be enough to use grep on the download modfolder
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21:44 IhrFussel grep -RE "request_insecure|os\.remove" modfolder ... should be enough..maybe I missed a malicious function
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21:46 Human_G33k by curiosity the fastest way to remove a world (for regenerate first chunk with mod activate)
21:46 IhrFussel Delete map.sqlite
21:47 IhrFussel If you only want a mapblock (16x16x16 nodes) to be regenerated you can use ingame /deleteblocks here 1
21:47 Human_G33k ok nice
21:48 IhrFussel But do NOT use it if you switched mapgens...cause then /deleteblocks will generate the terrain according to the new mapgen and overwrite the old terrain
21:49 Human_G33k i want regenerate i don’t care about loosing anything
21:50 Human_G33k but default what is the best mapgen ?
21:50 Human_G33k best minecraft like experience wanted
21:51 IhrFussel The newest stable mapgen is v7 I think
21:51 Human_G33k this is the parameter in conf file ?
21:51 IhrFussel But there is also some other ones if you need a specific terrain like valleys, rivers, flat etc
21:52 paramat mgv7 is the best stable one
21:52 Human_G33k i use the v 0.4.15 of minetest
21:52 Human_G33k ok
21:52 paramat wut
21:52 paramat use 0.4.17
21:53 IhrFussel 0.4.15 is 2 years old...or more
21:53 IhrFussel Use the ppa
21:54 IhrFussel It's maintained by the core devs not some 3rd party AFAIK
21:54 IhrFussel Cause you are so concerned about security
21:54 paramat mgvalleys has nice sloping rivers but is not yet guaranteed 'stable': it might possibly change a little in future
21:55 Human_G33k i need to change default_game = minetest ?
21:55 IhrFussel No, mg_name = v7 in minetest.conf
21:56 IhrFussel v7 is the default in 0.4.17...so better update to it
21:57 IhrFussel Human_G33k, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable
21:57 Glorfindel has anyone tested the minetest-tile-server?
21:57 Glorfindel I can't seem to get it to work
21:57 IhrFussel sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install minetest ... but first delete your current version
21:58 IhrFussel Oh wait...you said you use Debian? Debian doesn't have PPA
21:58 IhrFussel Not sure if they have something like that for minetest
21:58 paramat you can also choose the mapgen each time you start a new world, a conf setting is not essential
21:59 Human_G33k deb is a deb
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22:00 Human_G33k but my more concern issue will go to systemd
22:01 Human_G33k i will test
22:01 Human_G33k thx
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