Time  Nick        Message
07:16 Player      hey
07:25 Player      ...
14:30 lxleuser_   hi
14:30 jas_        lo
14:40 InventorX   Does anyone have any idea why I might not be able to chat on my own server?
14:40 jas_        is it up?
14:40 InventorX   yes IXland
14:41 jas_        are you connected?
14:41 InventorX   yes
14:41 jas_        can you see the output of /status?
14:41 jas_        (next question: can you check your /privs?)
14:41 InventorX   never tryed
14:42 InventorX   i have shout
14:42 InventorX   and all other privs
14:43 Glorfindel  are you sure you aren't able to chat then?
14:43 InventorX   yes i gave them books to ask them and they said no
14:43 jas_        haha
14:44 InventorX   everyone else can chat
14:44 Glorfindel  are they pranking you?
14:44 InventorX   yust me and my second accnt
14:44 jas_        any mods?
14:44 InventorX   yes a lot (no pranking)
14:44 jas_        well, any that modify register_on_chat_message?
14:45 jas_        do you have a priv called "noshout" or something?
14:46 InventorX   i don't know about register on chat message
14:48 jas_        it's possible there's a mod restricting your chat messages.  i don't have any other ideas.
14:49 InventorX   the mods I have are 3d_armor, areas, bitchange, castle_gates, cozy, hud_hunger,mesecons,milepick,multidimensions,myArcade,simple_skins,smartshop,wordedit
14:49 jas_        it's probably cozy, i'd remove that one
14:50 jas_        just kidding.  i still dunno.  what version of hud_hunger?  tenplus1? or original
14:50 jas_        i made a fork of that one too
14:50 InventorX   idk
14:50 jas_        ok here are some things i would try:
14:51 jas_        1) joining with two clients, Client01, and Client02; chatting and observing behavior
14:51 jas_        2) /shutdown
14:51 jas_        sometimes you just gotta restart the thing
14:51 InventorX   i reset it twice
14:51 jas_        did you try #1?
14:51 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
14:51 InventorX   i will try chatting
14:51 jas_        ok good ty
14:53 InventorX   ummm okay so i can chat. i just can't see what i'm saying
14:53 jas_        two clients simultaneously?
14:53 jas_        chatting to each other?  you cannot see the text?  perhaps it's a font_* setting.
14:53 InventorX   yes InventorX, WasdAcid
14:54 jas_        i dunno.  maybe try clearing minetest client .conf
14:54 jas_        it's interesting.  you should do a video, that'd be fun
14:54 InventorX   Example
14:54 InventorX   InventorX says hello
14:54 jas_        (hi)
14:54 InventorX   his chat window says nothing
14:55 jas_        but on InventorX screen you can see it like it was sent?
14:55 InventorX   WasdAcid recives hello in his chat
14:55 jas_        oh oh
14:55 InventorX   no
14:55 jas_        so they see it, but YOU don't
14:55 InventorX   yes
14:55 jas_        huh
14:55 jas_        that IS perplexing!
14:55 InventorX   some guy is on my server stareing at me
14:55 InventorX   he hit me with a sword
14:56 InventorX   one client crashed
14:57 InventorX   other says ERROR[Main]: SQlite3 database has been locked for 3000 ms this creates lag
14:57 jas_        very bizarre.  what about this guy with the sword?
14:58 InventorX   umm yust some guy on the server
14:58 InventorX   he has tnt
14:58 jas_        not just some guy!
14:58 jas_        if he has tnt!
14:58 jas_        that's a good feature
14:59 InventorX   so... i hit it with a torch trying to distroy it.
14:59 jas_        i enabled it on my server, it's off by default unless you play singleplayer?
14:59 InventorX   I enabled it on mine
15:00 jas_        i haven't checked recently.  it's almost a hidden feature
15:00 InventorX   fifth time i've done that though
15:00 jas_        but now it explodes items out of some things, and may honor protection?  i'd like to turn that off
15:00 InventorX   yeah
15:00 jas_        but then not much point to protection
15:00 InventorX   search tnt i settings
15:01 InventorX   what's your server
15:01 jas_        which also i'd like to turn off, but then not much point in building anything.  haha!  but on my server i don't think anyone's joined except one guy but he lagged out
15:01 jas_        !server jas0
15:01 MinetestBot jas_: Glitchtest [jas0] | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/15, 0/1 | Version: 5.0.0-dev / minetest | Ping: 129ms
15:01 jas_        it's dev version tho
15:01 InventorX   mines 4.16
15:01 jas_        they have 0.4.17.1 now
15:01 jas_        if you're interested
15:01 jas_        maybe that might help your issue?
15:06 InventorX   i i'll try later thanks
15:06 InventorX   it's 10 i have to get off
15:06 InventorX   join my server sometime
15:06 jas_        ok cya later bye
15:23 Glorfindel  !up gloomweaver.duckdns.org
15:23 MinetestBot gloomweaver.duckdns.org:30000 is up (137ms)
15:27 jas_        GLOOMWEAVER that is a badass name
15:27 Glorfindel  heh
15:27 Glorfindel  from the Silmarillion
15:27 jas_        gloomweaver
15:53 Glorfindel  !server Gloomweaver
15:53 MinetestBot Glorfindel: Gloomweaver | 198.71.63.94 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 145ms
15:53 Glorfindel  there, now it's public
15:54 Glorfindel  there, now it's public
15:54 Glorfindel  oops
15:54 Glorfindel  !server Gloomweaver
15:54 MinetestBot Glorfindel: Gloomweaver | 198.71.63.94 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 134ms
15:54 Glorfindel  hm
17:22 Jacob843    because don't ask orwell have to kill you
17:22 Jacob843    merijn: sounds good. just asking because you wrote plural "various (closable) STM channels"
18:02 Billre      Hi
18:02 Glorfindel  how does one find the itemstrings by perusing the code?
18:03 Billre      Is it possible to get part of a message in luacontrollers?  like "uput default:cobble" and all I want is "uput"
18:19 Billre      after a bit more googling, I finally found string.sub, which is doing the job.
18:29 IhrFussel   !tell InventorX That is not a bug, but rather an intended change... until 0.4.16 I think the client displayed its own messages after submitting but now the client does not do that anymore and relies on the server to resend its message else the message cannot be seen in 0.4.16+ anymore ... I'm guessing it's a mod that causes the message to not be resend to the sender
18:29 MinetestBot IhrFussel: I'll pass that on when InventorX is around
19:28 Glorfindel  what is the recommended program for generating maps of a server from the server its self?
19:58 Krock       Glorfindel: are you looking for a mod?
19:58 Krock       if not, then minetestmapper
19:59 Glorfindel  is that apt installable?
20:00 jacky       I don't think so
20:00 jacky       nope
20:02 Glorfindel  hmm
20:03 Glorfindel  alright, I'll look that up after I finish checking out another option, thanks
20:37 wishi       Stop hiding everybody nobody cares.
20:37 wishi       I want the index of "c" => in this case 6.
20:37 wishi       c for crops
20:39 Krock       I AM NOT HIDING (anymore). JUST SHOUTING OK?
21:20 Human_G33k  Hello
21:21 Glorfindel  hi
21:21 Human_G33k  I need a little help
21:21 Human_G33k  how can (if in can) activate mod for minetest server from debian repository
21:22 Human_G33k  i already apt install what i want
21:22 Human_G33k  i can connect from my cli
21:23 Human_G33k  i need cp mod files or add some confline in /etc/minetest/minetest.conf
21:24 Glorfindel  the way I install mods is thusly: find on github/wherever -> wget %direct link% -> mv files to ./.minetest/mods/ renaming them so that there are no en dashes
21:25 Glorfindel  I check to make sure there aren't any subfolders with ls
21:25 Glorfindel  and then I modify the world.mt file to set them to "true" (make sure the server is not running!)
21:26 Human_G33k  ok
21:26 Glorfindel  there's probably an easier way, but that's always worked for me
21:26 Human_G33k  if i found one
21:26 Human_G33k  i will say how
21:31 IhrFussel   Glorfindel, if you are okay with mods per world you can simply put the mod folders into worldname/worldmods
21:31 IhrFussel   Oops Human_G33k *
21:31 Human_G33k  :)
21:31 Glorfindel  is there an advantage to that?
21:32 IhrFussel   Yes no need to enable them in any file
21:32 IhrFussel   They are auto-enabled
21:32 Glorfindel  ahh
21:32 Glorfindel  still requires minetest server restart though?
21:32 IhrFussel   Would be terrible to put 180 lines in my .conf just for enabling all my server mods
21:33 IhrFussel   Yes you cannot load mod during runtime
21:33 Human_G33k  So
21:33 Human_G33k  the best way
21:33 Human_G33k  i need to test if it work
21:33 Human_G33k  but
21:33 Human_G33k  look like should be
21:34 Human_G33k  from debian stable
21:34 Human_G33k  apt install minetest-server
21:34 IhrFussel   Shouldn't matter I think...MT will always check for worldname/worldmods mods
21:34 Human_G33k  apt install minetest-mod-namemod
21:34 Glorfindel  IhrFussel: I didn't edit all the lines in my world.mt file either, I set up the world locally and uploaded, much faster
21:35 Human_G33k  service minetest-server
21:35 Human_G33k  service minetest-server stop
21:35 Human_G33k  edit /etc/minetest/minetest.conf
21:35 IhrFussel   I don't think yu should install mods via apt...it#s easier to fetch them from github/notabug etc
21:35 Glorfindel  I've only edited for when I added two additional mods that I had forgotten. But thanks for the tip! I'll be using that in the future
21:36 Human_G33k  (most important line is ip )
21:36 Human_G33k  edit /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/world/world.mt
21:36 Human_G33k  and put line to true
21:36 Human_G33k  (mods one ofc)
21:37 Human_G33k  and
21:37 IhrFussel   wget https://github.com/minetest-mods/modname/archive/master.zip; unzip master.zip; (rename if needed) mv modfolder worlds/worldname/worldmods; done
21:37 Human_G33k  service minetest start
21:38 Glorfindel  do as IhrFussel sez, human
21:38 Human_G33k  I don’t like to use something else than apt for security reason
21:38 Human_G33k  and it’s easiest to maintain
21:38 IhrFussel   But also most likely outdated
21:39 Glorfindel  most aren't apt-get able last time I checked
21:39 Human_G33k  security/stability always prior to fresh (for me)
21:39 IhrFussel   Almost every mod is open source so you can just read the code and look for malicious stuff
21:40 IhrFussel   MT runs every mod in a sand box AFAIK so it's pretty much impossible to break out of it UNLESS the mod uses a special function...I think minetest.request_insecure_environment()
21:43 Human_G33k  i will see
21:43 Human_G33k  the main purpose for now is testing :)
21:43 IhrFussel   It should be enough to use grep on the download modfolder
21:44 IhrFussel   grep -RE "request_insecure|os\.remove" modfolder ... should be enough..maybe I missed a malicious function
21:46 Human_G33k  by curiosity the fastest way to remove a world (for regenerate first chunk with mod activate)
21:46 IhrFussel   Delete map.sqlite
21:47 IhrFussel   If you only want a mapblock (16x16x16 nodes) to be regenerated you can use ingame /deleteblocks here 1
21:47 Human_G33k  ok nice
21:48 IhrFussel   But do NOT use it if you switched mapgens...cause then /deleteblocks will generate the terrain according to the new mapgen and overwrite the old terrain
21:49 Human_G33k  i want regenerate i don’t care about loosing anything
21:50 Human_G33k  but default what is the best mapgen ?
21:50 Human_G33k  best minecraft like experience wanted
21:51 IhrFussel   The newest stable mapgen is v7 I think
21:51 Human_G33k  this is the parameter in conf file ?
21:51 IhrFussel   But there is also some other ones if you need a specific terrain like valleys, rivers, flat etc
21:52 paramat     mgv7 is the best stable one
21:52 Human_G33k  i use the v 0.4.15 of minetest
21:52 Human_G33k  ok
21:52 paramat     wut
21:52 paramat     use 0.4.17
21:53 IhrFussel   0.4.15 is 2 years old...or more
21:53 IhrFussel   Use the ppa
21:54 IhrFussel   It's maintained by the core devs not some 3rd party AFAIK
21:54 IhrFussel   Cause you are so concerned about security
21:54 paramat     mgvalleys has nice sloping rivers but is not yet guaranteed 'stable': it might possibly change a little in future
21:55 Human_G33k  i need to change default_game = minetest ?
21:55 IhrFussel   No, mg_name = v7 in minetest.conf
21:56 IhrFussel   v7 is the default in 0.4.17...so better update to it
21:57 IhrFussel   Human_G33k, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable
21:57 Glorfindel  has anyone tested the minetest-tile-server?
21:57 Glorfindel  I can't seem to get it to work
21:57 IhrFussel   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install minetest ... but first delete your current version
21:58 IhrFussel   Oh wait...you said you use Debian? Debian doesn't have PPA
21:58 IhrFussel   Not sure if they have something like that for minetest
21:58 paramat     you can also choose the mapgen each time you start a new world, a conf setting is not essential
21:59 Human_G33k  deb is a deb
22:00 Human_G33k  but my more concern issue will go to systemd
22:01 Human_G33k  i will test
22:01 Human_G33k  thx