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IRC log for #minetest, 2018-07-02

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14:24 greeter does anyone heree know where i could find out more about how to code the traffic lights in the streets mod?
14:25 rubenwardy !book operations
14:25 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Basic Map Operations - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/chapters/environment.html
14:25 rubenwardy basically you want to use set_node
14:25 rubenwardy and then have different definitions
14:25 rubenwardy do you want them to link together?
14:25 rubenwardy do you want to have crossings with push buttons?
14:25 rubenwardy That's where it gets harder
14:25 rubenwardy would maybe be easier to require mesecons
14:26 greeter yeah i do want them to link together. normally i just use the traffic signal controller, but i've built a 6 way intersection
14:26 rubenwardy forget who works on that mo
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14:27 greeter obviously i'm going to need to start simpler than that project lol. but yeah, even just a starting point so i can see what code to write would be helpful
14:33 greeter i think i got it :-D thank you kindly for your help
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14:58 Andrey01 hi
14:58 Andrey01 a question about Blender: how to add new vertice in arbitrary place?
14:59 Fuchs Andrey01: blender the software?
15:00 Fuchs if so: probably #blender  will know better :)
15:00 lumberJ hes trying to make a vertice smoothie
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15:01 Krock Blender, the robot
15:01 Krock except that he doesn't have an "l" in his name
15:02 Andrey01 is it impossible?
15:03 rubenwardy I feel like you probably shouldn't do that
15:04 rubenwardy as a general rule, avoid maipulating random vertices in modelling software
15:04 Fuchs Krock: I thought maybe minetest had something called blender, but in that context I was rather sure it must be the software, thus the recommendation :)
15:04 Krock I see  ^^
15:04 Fuchs oh, in that context maybe in here is all better anyway, do ignore me
15:04 rubenwardy well, blender and vertice
15:07 Andrey01 ok, i will do it the other way then
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15:09 Andrey01 for example, i can add Plane or something, delete face, all edges and vertices except one and the only vertice will remain then
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15:52 mineTEST hi, is there some way to enter a build plan for something into minetest to let it build the thing automaticly? my plan is to make something like a pixel-art buildplan and i want to build itself in singleplay mode
15:52 rubenwardy there's mods for that
15:52 rubenwardy like, there's ones to build pixel art based on an image
15:53 rubenwardy could use that to place a floor plan
15:53 rubenwardy not sure on the name of the mods though
15:53 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6751
15:54 Krock but everything's dead
15:54 rubenwardy not sure that places?
15:54 rubenwardy looks like a lib
15:55 mineTEST do mods work in singleplayer mode or do i have to put to some kind of server?
15:55 Krock singleplayer automatiaclly starts the server for you
15:55 rubenwardy ^
15:55 Krock v
15:55 rubenwardy there's nothing special about singleplayer
15:55 rubenwardy other than it doesn't let you choose a name
15:55 Krock and doesn't let other players in
15:55 rubenwardy so there's still a server being hosted
15:55 rubenwardy oh, really?
15:55 rubenwardy well
15:56 rubenwardy there's still a server being hosted, just one that denies other players
15:56 Krock well, I think so, yes.
15:56 mineTEST ok i will try to install that mod
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15:59 entuland mineTEST, you want the build plan to be a flat image correct?
15:59 mineTEST yes
15:59 entuland I don't know the mod that Krock pointed out, so I can't tell if it can build it right away
16:00 entuland but if you could find a way to convert the image into a schematic or other supported formats, there are other mods that allow rebuilding them
16:00 Krock according to the images (which are 404 now), it seems to have in-game use and is not just a library
16:00 entuland yep, should be tried out
16:06 mineTEST i was able to use it after disabling mod security features, but it still proccess the picture, maybe the picture was a little tooo big :D
16:07 entuland how large was it?
16:08 mineTEST more than 1600 pixels tall :D
16:08 entuland eheheh
16:09 entuland I would try with a realistically smaller pixel art first :)
16:09 Krock mineTEST, did you disable the entire mod security?
16:09 mineTEST yes.
16:09 mineTEST it's just local so everything is fine
16:09 Krock oh god, please no. why do we have secure.trusted_mods  then?
16:10 rubenwardy the mod is from 2013
16:10 rubenwardy XD
16:10 Krock oh
16:12 mineTEST yeah it seams to crash :D
16:16 mineTEST 60x60 doesn't let it crash :D
16:17 entuland is it importing it fine?
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16:19 mineTEST 100x100 works too :D
16:21 entuland good to know
16:22 entuland I wonder why it requires security to be off though...
16:22 mineTEST because it uses the require-command
16:23 entuland uhm... that could be worked around by using dofile() instead
16:23 Krock entuland, because request_insecure_environnment didn't exist in 2013
16:23 mineTEST maybe i can change the orientation so it builds the picture on the x,z axis instead of the x,y axis
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17:12 mineTEST that plugin makes lots of fun
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18:36 embden I have probably a stupid question but are there any books about minetest
18:36 embden ?
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18:37 sofar embden: minetest modding book by rubenwardy
18:37 embden like this one https://www.amazon.com/Wimpy-Steve-Book-Unofficial-Minecraft-ebook/dp/B01HE5UZHQ/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
18:37 embden I mean for children
18:37 sofar great idea, but, no
18:38 embden thanks
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18:52 paramat we're too poor for paper :)
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18:57 rubenwardy !book
18:57 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Minetest Modding Book - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/
18:57 rubenwardy I am going to get it printed
18:57 rubenwardy Feel free to place preorders
18:57 rubenwardy XD
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19:28 jluc such a book and tutorials could help use minetest in schools as a way of learning how to code
19:28 jluc for higher classes than scratch
19:29 embden jluc, but minetest chose lua instead of python so nobody would teach it
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19:31 jluc well coding skills once builded can adapt easily to any langage
19:32 jluc not to build professional immediate-use skills
19:32 jluc but general code literacy skills
19:33 jluc my son, 8, loved https://www.amazon.fr/Programmer-avec-Scratch-samusant-m%C3%A9gapoche/dp/2754080244/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1530559786
19:34 embden jluc, the problem is lack of teachers. my nephew can't get through Scratch alone. He needs a teacher, though, he is almost 11 y.o.
19:39 jluc possibly minetest is not so school friendly
19:45 embden I am not a minetest developer but I think that there is no such a goal like to make it school friendly. I think it is possible to make it school friendly if someone wants to do it..
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19:52 paramat we just need to remove all the expletives in the code :) we did this for MTG
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19:58 entuland why? there were bad words in the code? eheheheh
20:04 rubenwardy Minetest is perfectly school friendly
20:04 rubenwardy With some small modifications
20:04 rubenwardy Also, Minetest is used a lot for education
20:05 rubenwardy [20:29:14] <4caf50embden> jluc, but minetest chose lua instead of python so nobody would teach it
20:05 rubenwardy This is true
20:06 rubenwardy There's a mod to add python support to Minetest
20:11 embden rubenwardy, I also don't want to be rude but minetest is not a very good name. But puthon support is a very good thing, in what state it is now?
20:12 rubenwardy Massive understatement there
20:13 rubenwardy Not sure
20:13 rubenwardy It can't do as much as the Lua api
20:13 rubenwardy And doesn't aim to
20:14 rubenwardy It's compatible with the Minecraft api
20:14 rubenwardy And allows map manipulation and such
20:16 rubenwardy It's something I'd like to work on
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20:18 embden But what about python on android?
20:20 rubenwardy Hmm
20:20 rubenwardy Well, the design is that that's possible
20:20 rubenwardy If you edit the code on a computer
20:20 embden But there should be an interpreter on a phone?
20:21 rubenwardy Ah wait, side by side exists
20:21 rubenwardy So theoretically you could do that
20:21 rubenwardy There is no app for it though
20:22 rubenwardy !mod raspberryjammod
20:22 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Raspberry PI MC API for Python code [raspberryjammod] by arpruss - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13316
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22:09 ManElevation heya! how do i make a terminal to open the server on ubuntu?
22:09 ManElevation i have minetest stable0.4
22:10 ManElevation with a executable
22:10 rubenwardy ctrl+alt+t
22:11 ManElevation and what command do i enter?
22:12 rubenwardy !wiki Setting_up_a_server
22:12 MinetestBot "It's recommended that you use a VPS or dedicated server to host a game server which you want to make publicly available.Residential Internet connections tend to be unreliable and also have less upload speed." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
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22:26 ManElevation nop that dosent work im using debian 9 strech and minetest stable0.4
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23:17 MinetestBot [git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Zoom: Correctly verify client passed zoom at the server (#7526) 03edcaf https://git.io/fSGYU (2018-07-02T23:16:17Z)
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23:57 player_legend Do entities have a subroutine that runs when they touch something? Also, is there a subroutine that they can run either after some delay or on an interval?

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