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05:59 MarisaG ah ok :)
06:14 Roger9_ hi
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06:18 MarisaG whats up?
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11:24 Gael-de-Sailly hi everyone :)
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13:09 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Properly disable debugging code in Release builds b16f93f https://git.io/vxBSe (2018-03-24T13:05:34Z)
13:09 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Improve exception messages for out-of-bounds image access 976c690 https://git.io/vxBSv (2018-03-24T13:05:25Z)
13:09 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Fix scales being drawn outside of image 7288e60 https://git.io/vxBSf (2018-03-24T12:58:39Z)
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14:25 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Minor refactoring (2) 7c71138 https://git.io/vxBQH (2018-03-24T14:24:02Z)
14:25 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Minor refactoring c15adfd https://git.io/vxBQQ (2018-03-24T13:54:45Z)
14:25 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Support all image formats offered by libgd 75599e8 https://git.io/vxBQ7 (2018-03-24T13:16:56Z)
14:37 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Re-add support for outdated libgd c11d2aa https://git.io/vxB7B (2018-03-24T14:37:06Z)
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14:47 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Cleanup sound manager class (#7158) 4fd9715 https://git.io/vxB5J (2018-03-24T14:45:25Z)
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15:26 MinetestBot [git] nOOb3167 -> minetest/minetest: Make sounds stop playing when entering game or mainmenu 43f98eb https://git.io/vxBFI (2018-03-24T15:05:26Z)
15:31 BillyS There is an issue on VE-S where hazmat suits don't protect a player from radiation. Does anyone else have this issue, or know how to fix it?
15:37 Krock I'd check for updates. i.e. git pull
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15:57 sy https://0x0.st/sBpT.png i made a chat system -- https://0x0.st/sBpa.png
15:57 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Re-add support for outdated libgd 6af6be4 https://git.io/vxBbV (2018-03-24T15:56:17Z)
15:58 sy I feel like this has been done before though
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17:42 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Fix subtly broken libgd version check 0f36b6e https://git.io/vxBhd (2018-03-24T17:40:21Z)
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19:13 temp_trisquel Hi.
19:13 temp_trisquel Some time ago, I have forced Minetest developers to remove Nyan Cats.
19:13 temp_trisquel Why was PB&J Pup removed?
19:13 temp_trisquel s/removed/not added
19:13 rubenwardy because it was crap
19:14 rubenwardy also, you didn't force anything
19:14 temp_trisquel I have created the issue.
19:14 temp_trisquel s/created/sent
19:14 rubenwardy requested then, or prompted
19:15 rubenwardy PB&J is meaningless outside of the US
19:15 Krock Moo/GNU for the win :)
19:15 rubenwardy there's also no need for such an object
19:16 temp_trisquel It was some rare block.
19:16 Krock temp_trisquel, it was added. and then removed. and then added back to the minetest-mods group on GitHub
19:16 temp_trisquel Also, I have found some minetest-jp at GitHub.
19:17 temp_trisquel What is it?
19:17 rubenwardy nothing official
19:17 Krock everything but an official Minetest development team
19:18 temp_trisquel Is it some unofficial Japanese Minetest repository?
19:18 rubenwardy organisation, and yes
19:18 temp_trisquel s/repository/mods
19:18 temp_trisquel s/is/are
19:21 temp_trisquel Why were mobs removed?
19:21 temp_trisquel https://wiki.minetest.net/Dungeon_master and https://wiki.minetest.net/Oerkki
19:22 temp_trisquel Bug report: https://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat_Rainbow
19:22 temp_trisquel Invalid name: "Minetet"
19:23 Krock Fix It Yourself (C)(R)(TM) now for only $0.00
19:23 Krock limited offer! Get it now for the next 255 years
19:24 temp_trisquel I'm unable to edit it.
19:25 rubenwardy Calinou ^
19:25 Krock temp_trisquel, send your desired nick name and email to Calinou ( /query Calinou )
19:25 temp_trisquel Why register?
19:26 Krock spam and such
19:26 Krock the community is not large enough to look through all changes
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19:28 temp_trisquel https://wiki.minetest.net/Mese < Trademark? Mese actually means "msn messenger" in Finland and is used as a silly word (it sounds silly) in the ohjelmointiputka programming community.
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19:36 temp_trisquel Why were Nyan Cats added in Minetest without checking for license/trademark?
19:38 rubenwardy programmer probably didn't care
19:38 rubenwardy they were added a long time ago
19:38 temp_trisquel Also, why not change the name instead of removing?
19:39 rubenwardy because they're pointless
19:39 rubenwardy *it's
19:39 rubenwardy and it's the texture too, the design
19:39 rubenwardy it's not 2004 anymore
19:39 Shara And it was pretty obvious what they were from... yea, that  ^
19:39 temp_trisquel Nya cat for example ("nya" is Japanese word, can be trademarked).
19:39 temp_trisquel s/can/can’t
19:40 Krock looks like a cheap ripoff
19:40 rubenwardy ^
19:41 Gael-de-Sailly they have been replaced at first
19:41 Gael-de-Sailly but the replacement was worse imo
19:42 Shara The dogs were just bad.
19:43 Gael-de-Sailly yeah, very kitschy and didn't have their place in the landscape
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19:44 Calinou should have went with Rainbow Dash instead
19:44 rubenwardy that's even worse
19:44 Calinou :-)
19:44 Gael-de-Sailly no, not better than nyan cat
19:47 Gael-de-Sailly https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=18028
19:49 Gael-de-Sailly Personnally I like more the replacement proposed by duane
19:49 Gael-de-Sailly (but I feel like not everyone will like it)
19:49 Gael-de-Sailly https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=18057
19:50 temp_trisquel Also, what’s wrong with PB&J Pup? More blocks = better IIUC.
19:50 rubenwardy PB&J doesn't translate
19:50 rubenwardy it looks shit
19:50 rubenwardy it doesn't make sense
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19:51 Shara If you want them, just add them as a mod to your own game.
19:52 juli what is the command to remove the auth data from a player?
19:52 Krock temp_trisquel, cd mods && git clone https://github.com/minetest-mods/pbj_pup.git
19:52 rubenwardy minetest.get_authentication_handler():delete_auth(name)
19:52 juli ah thx
19:52 temp_trisquel Why was PB&J Pup made?
19:53 Gael-de-Sailly to replace nyancat :p
19:53 Gael-de-Sailly but it was just not liked by the players
19:53 Gael-de-Sailly which is understandable
19:53 sofar nobody likes change
19:53 juli rubenwardy: is that only for 5.0 or?
19:53 rubenwardy yes
19:53 juli ah thats the problem :)
19:54 temp_trisquel Some players have installed Minetest with PB&J Pup (master branch). Why should they have Unknown Node instead?
19:54 juli before 5.0 that its not possible?
19:54 Gael-de-Sailly juli: you're talking about a lua code line, not an in-game command?
19:54 temp_trisquel There must be no right to remove anything. Even if it’s a mistake.
19:54 rubenwardy because they were using a dev version
19:54 Gael-de-Sailly temp_trisquel: it will be converted into air
19:55 Gael-de-Sailly if they have not forgotten to add an alias
19:55 juli Gael-de-Sailly: both would work, an ingame command has also somewhere a written luacode line :)
19:56 Krock juli, the hacky backwards compatible way would be core.auth_table["<player_name>"] = nil   and hope for a save if you're using the builtin method
19:58 juli ok no its for a 4.16 server so its only for me ... need no backwards compytiblity, only the 4.16 way ...
19:59 juli so core.auth_table[playername] will maybe delete it but not for sure?
19:59 juli (=nil)
19:59 rubenwardy if someone logs in before the server shuts down, then yes
19:59 rubenwardy wait, hmmm
19:59 rubenwardy it will
19:59 rubenwardy as it saves every X secconds
20:00 juli so if the server is on enought seconds its save?
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20:05 Krock rubenwardy, saving is not time-based. It saves when there are changes
20:05 juli ok i'll simply test whether its deleted
20:05 juli after reboot
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