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GreenDimond |
Oh so that's what it means |
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GreenDimond |
Thankyou :) |
00:06 |
GreenDimond |
Doesnt seem to work |
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GreenDimond |
`replacements = {["bucket:bucket_water"] = "bucket:bucket"},` must be wrong? |
00:06 |
asl97 |
GreenDimond: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/bucket/init.lua#L213 |
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rubenwardy |
replacements = {{ "bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:bucket"}}, |
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GreenDimond |
ah I need brackets |
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GreenDimond |
braces* |
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rubenwardy |
it's a double array |
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rubenwardy |
not a dicationaly |
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rubenwardy |
*ary |
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GreenDimond |
Yeah that makes sense |
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rubenwardy |
+t |
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GreenDimond |
Thankyou :) |
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asl97 |
can minetest.get_perlin and minetest.get_perlin_map produce the same result for the same pos? |
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BBmine |
Spambot on the loose on MT forums! "Content Spinning" is his name. |
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asl97 |
32 posts https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?author_id=22106&sr=posts |
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the above spambot has been dealt with. |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hi |
14:00 |
Out`Of`Control |
My server random disppear for a while from server list, while its still there. All i could find in logs "servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 0)" |
14:01 |
sfan5 |
it should reappear next time MT sends an announce |
14:02 |
Out`Of`Control |
it reppear, but i have never seen it on older version |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: has nothing to do with server settings |
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Out`Of`Control |
now again my server is gone |
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Out`Of`Control |
server is 0.4.16 stable |
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lumberJ |
Can anyone tell me does the "signlike" drawtype not support textures for what would be the top and back of the sign? |
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sfan5 |
because the sign is a flat surface |
15:06 |
sfan5 |
with a depth of zero |
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lumberJ |
the description says "textured plain" so I assume not, but its a strange node that floats off the texture its built to |
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lumberJ |
if it attached texture directly to the node built to that would make sense, but it seems to have 1/16 of a node depths distance so that the texture floats off of the next node over |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Make use of safe file writing in auth handler (fixes #6576) fc9747e https://git.io/vFEII (2017-11-08T15:14:05Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Add minetest.safe_write_file() to script API b692454 https://git.io/vFEIL (2017-11-08T15:14:05Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: Fix issue Minetest crash when custom font path is not exist 9526c68 https://git.io/vFEIt (2017-11-08T15:14:00Z) |
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asl97 |
i think i over estmated the amount of mods in a game which uses minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") |
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Inocudom |
Eiion_ceo (lukeyourthebest) needs some assistance: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=299421#p299421 |
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Inocudom |
Linux Mint 17.3 uses Ubuntu 14.04 as its base. |
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Inocudom |
Sfan5, can you help lukeisthebest with his compiling problem? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=299421#p299421 |
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Fixer |
be patient on irc :D |
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Inocudom: tell him to use cmake to generate VS project file |
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Inocudom |
VanessaE, do you still use Linux Mint and/or Ubuntu? |
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VanessaE |
no, not for years. |
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Inocudom |
Well, have you tried 0.5 dev yet? It seems to be much faster than 4.16. |
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rubenwardy |
lots of optimisations :D |
18:15 |
VanessaE |
I have not. |
18:15 |
rubenwardy |
but also lots of changes, so bugs :( |
18:15 |
VanessaE |
I don't plan to try it for a VERY long time. |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
:'( |
18:16 |
rubenwardy |
how long is very long? |
18:16 |
VanessaE |
months. |
18:16 |
VanessaE |
maybe as much as a year, depends on how 0.4.x progresses in the meantime |
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rubenwardy |
0.4.x won't receive anymore development |
18:16 |
rubenwardy |
but I'd like to push for 0.5 to have a patch release for bug fixes |
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VanessaE |
0.4.x is supposed to be getting at least one more bugfix release. |
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rubenwardy |
that will be bfore 0.5 |
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rubenwardy |
in december |
18:17 |
VanessaE |
problem is you guys want to do only bugfixes while leaving a few things incomplete, meanwhile 0.5.x is supposed to break stuff, and I don't wanna fight with broken mods/server/etc |
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Inocudom |
What are the main bugs in 0.5 dev? |
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rubenwardy |
Inocudom, networking, if nerzhul has his way |
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rubenwardy |
I'm not really sure why 0.5 needs to be so breaking so far |
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rubenwardy |
the player offset could be done with compatibility checks |
18:19 |
rubenwardy |
but \o/ |
18:19 |
VanessaE |
exactly |
18:19 |
Inocudom |
It should be faster, but I guess it has connection issues? |
18:19 |
asl97 |
VanessaE: can you tell me the most amount of minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") is used by a single world on your server? |
18:19 |
VanessaE |
asl97: I wouldn't know. I don't mess with VMs |
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rubenwardy |
ask paramat, he was involved with that |
18:20 |
rubenwardy |
I wasn't active then (exams or coursework) |
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Inocudom |
And yes, a form of backwards compatibility is important too, mainly for the mobile users (whom there is never a shortage of.) |
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asl97 |
the most i saw was three by an rather old subgame, if so i really over estmated the amount of mods in a world which uses minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") |
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Inocudom |
I find it depressing that most of the players in the Minetest servers use mobile clients, not the PC version. |
18:23 |
rubenwardy |
the official Minetest app will be approved, and is something I'd vote to delay the release for |
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rubenwardy |
I personally can't even compile the app though so \o/ |
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asl97 |
VanessaE: i know your dreambuilder modpack uses three too https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_modpack/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=minetest.get_mapgen_object%28%22voxelmanip%22%29&type= |
18:25 |
asl97 |
but that hardly enough to justify a new api to fix the slowness of lua mapgen |
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Inocudom |
I can't compile 0.5 dev either, and I'm using Linux Mint 17.3, which has Ubuntu 14.04 as its base. |
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rubenwardy |
Inocudom, it works on Linux |
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rubenwardy |
you just need to get a supporting compiler, as was said |
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rubenwardy |
there will be a PPA for that |
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o11c |
asl97: I for one don't trust a JIT to *ever* match native speed ... I'd rather dlopen() a mapgen |
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o11c |
asl97: how many people actually write mapgens? |
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rubenwardy |
match? no |
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rubenwardy |
mostly good enough? sure |
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asl97 |
if there is only one mod using it, it gonna be slower, (no way that it get merge), if there are two, it might just match the current speed, three, maybe a little faster but not enough to justify a new api |
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Inocudom |
Apparently, clang 3.4 and clang 3.9 can't coexist together, and you need clang 3.9 to install base clang. |
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o11c |
3.5 is the oldest clang I play with |
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o11c |
and even then ... clang sucks compared to gcc, so I barely use it |
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o11c |
I'm currently writing a GCC plugin, and the GCC internals, which were never "designed for use as a library", are *way* more stable |
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o11c |
(as in, I'm writing one GCC plugin that works with any version from 4.5 to 8) |
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o11c |
rubenwardy: a poor object model puts you at *least* 2x slower, and many of the trivial-but-significant optimizations that are doable in native languages aren't even *conceivable* for jitted languages |
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o11c |
rubenwardy: it's amazing how much performance can be gained by putting bitfields in a union, for example |
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Inocudom |
Well, I have cmake version 3.2.2, clang 3.9, and I am upgrading gcc to 7.2. |
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Inocudom |
Linux Mint didn't switch to gcc 7.2 as default, and there don't seem to be any real straight answers on how to make it do so either. |
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Inocudom |
My /usr/bin has a file named gcc-7, but it is a link. The program it links to is x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-7, which is also in /usr/bin. |
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twoelk |
I seem to have difficulties to run minetest-0.5.0-fc9747e-win32. any new system recomendations I should be aware of? |
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rubenwardy |
it's compiled? |
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twoelk |
I was trying to use sfan's built, but I assume you wasn't addressing me :-) |
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Inocudom |
Well, 0.5 dev requires c++11. |
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Inocudom |
Which is why and went and got gcc-7, but getting the system to use it could be difficult, if not impossible. |
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sfan5 |
twoelk: nope the 32-bit ones are just broken atm |
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sfan5 |
i will try to fix this soon |
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Inocudom |
Bye. |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hi |
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Out`Of`Control |
can i convert postgresql map back to sqlite in case it does not work well for me? |
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swift110 |
hey Out`Of`Control |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi swift110 |
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twoelk |
if it doesn't work you still got the save-to-local option :-D may take some time though |
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Out`Of`Control |
i mean when i test it for a week or longer |
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twoelk |
actually I did something similar. copied a backup version into the local-world folder and only updated certain areas by flying there - probably to much work for larger servers I guess, nice way to merge stuff though |
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twoelk |
I got a weird version of xanadu that way :-D |
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Out`Of`Control |
lol |
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Out`Of`Control |
it would be too much work, thanks for advice twoelk. If all fails i could do that for sure |
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swift110 |
how are you Out`Of`Control |
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Out`Of`Control |
uhm |
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Out`Of`Control |
good |
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rmbeer |
hello |
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rmbeer |
i have error in moreores genertor |
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rmbeer |
mods/moreores/init.lua:38: attempt to call field 'node_sound_metal_defaults' (a nil value) |
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Calinou |
rmbeer: what Minetest version are you using? |
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swift110 |
good to here Out`Of`Control |
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swift110 |
hey CalebDavis |
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swift110 |
i mean CalebDavis |
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Calinou |
hi swift110 :) |
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rmbeer |
i use minetest 0.5.0-dev-65c55390-dirty |
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Calinou |
I haven't tested my mods with 0.5.0-dev, only 0.4.16 |
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swift110 |
how are Calinou |
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swift110 |
wow |
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Out`Of`Control |
what is special about 0.5? |
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rdococ |
0.5.0 is cool. I guess. |
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orbea |
my take is that too many mods are only tested against the latest stable and the issue with mismatching versions for multiplayer makes using git versions hard for anything but devel. |
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rmbeer |
this is disappointing... all the mods not work... |
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rmbeer |
i use from the git version |
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rmbeer |
only view a stone, quartz block and ore, sound by drop blocks, and nothing more, not view the forest, more ores, etc... |
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CalebDavis |
hi swift |
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twoelk |
make a list so the modders know where work is needed, maybe we need a <vers5checked>icon for the forum :-P |
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twoelk |
aaaand - goodnight |
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rmbeer |
i make this list: "all" |
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MinetestBot |
[git] numberZero -> minetest/minetest: Move files to subdirectories (#6599) 20a85d7 https://git.io/vFu35 (2017-11-08T22:56:20Z) |
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Fixer |
sudden movement can be heared |
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freelikegnu |
heh S10E35 of Ubuntu Podcast gave a shoutout to minetest :D |
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freelikegnu |
then riffed on its name ^^ |
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rmbeer |
GRRRR!!! minetest is BORED!!! |
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freelikegnu |
? |
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freelikegnu |
Well they said some positive things about minetest over minecraft such as its incredible extensibility |
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freelikegnu |
so maybe more people will come into the community... guess it would be bad SEO to change the name after such a high profile plug |
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freelikegnu |
so Minetest is further doomed to remain Minetest |
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TheInformer |
Anyone know of some good technic servers? |
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TheInformer |
active |
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