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GreenDimond |
Problem solved |
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Redsprites |
Hello? |
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GreenDimond |
Greetings. |
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Redsprites |
OH COOL! |
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Redsprites |
Someone else is online! |
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Redsprites |
HI~ |
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GreenDimond |
There are 170 people online.. |
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GreenDimond |
look at the userlist |
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GreenDimond |
169* (2 bots, and someone just joined) |
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Redsprites |
woah, I thought that was a long list of "slang" words and codes. |
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Redsprites |
Sorry, I'm an air head. |
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GreenDimond |
haha |
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GreenDimond |
Best thing I have heard all day |
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Redsprites |
Heck, I should've known better, I just saw your name on the list~ |
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GreenDimond |
Yours is on there too ;) |
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GreenDimond |
(it is in alphabetical order.. if you didn't know) |
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Redsprites |
woah woah woah |
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Redsprites |
I'm not that slow |
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GreenDimond |
Of course, light-gray names usually mean they are afk or something |
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GreenDimond |
haha |
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Redsprites |
ah~ |
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Redsprites |
well this is nice. |
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GreenDimond |
Indeed |
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Redsprites |
Glad to see that god plays Minetest!?! |
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GreenDimond |
Huh? |
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Redsprites |
XD someone's put their username as god! |
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GreenDimond |
*doesnt see any "god"..* |
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GreenDimond |
oh |
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GreenDimond |
I see it now |
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Redsprites |
??? No pun intended but, "_god_" is above all. |
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ShadowBot |
Redsprites: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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GreenDimond |
hahaha |
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GreenDimond |
shut up shadowbot :P |
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Redsprites |
Oh I was wondering if I could only see that. |
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Redsprites |
Shadowbot needs to be more "in the shadow's". |
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Redsprites |
Well now. |
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Redsprites |
Is anyone building things for the sake of fun, I wanna join in. |
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Redsprites |
Wait what? |
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Redsprites |
GREENDIMOND NO! |
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Redsprites |
Crap... |
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Redsprites |
well I'm out! |
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Redsprites |
I'll check up on this place tomorrow. |
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Redsprites |
Happy mining~ |
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YellowberryHN |
Hello everyone. |
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YellowberryHN |
This is my official return |
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YellowberryHN |
How much of a return is still in debate, but I'm back |
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wilkgr |
Why doesn't minetest.colorize accept a table for the colour, like set_nametag_attributes does? |
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YellowberryHN |
is there a way to make sure a setting is set in minetest.conf? |
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Calinou |
YellowberryHN: you can set a default value using something like `my_value = minetest.setting_get("whatever") or 20` |
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Calinou |
(note, the function call might be wrong, I didn't take a look at the recent API) |
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YellowberryHN |
can you set settings? |
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jas_ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4027 |
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jas_ |
here, you have set, get, and a myriad of other methods. |
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YellowberryHN |
thanks jas_ |
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jas_ |
my pleasure. |
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wilkgr |
Finally got my internet to work again *sighs |
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hisforever |
is there a way to add lakes to a flat world? |
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hisforever |
HI Can I put a lake in a flat world? |
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paramat |
~tell hisforever in mgflat you can't have 1 lake but you can have occasional scattered lakes. see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/28841961ba91b943b7478704181604fa3e24e81e/minetest.conf.example#L2371 add 'mgflat_spflags = lakes,nohills' to minetest.conf before starting a new world. there are also parameters for adjusting the rarity, size and depth of lakes |
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ShadowBot |
paramat: O.K. |
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paramat |
~tell hisforever i'm not sure if you meant to leave 2 mins after asking your question, but try to stay in channel for an hour or so to give someone time to see the question and answer :] |
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ShadowBot |
paramat: O.K. |
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wilkgr |
Is there a builtin function for converting the colour tables used by set_nametag_attributes to the hex notation used by colorize? |
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wilkgr |
It's easy enough to implement, but I'd rather use an inbuilt function :) |
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deltasquared |
VanessaE: oh, that would be trivial to do in the existing direction code, and it would also work in the network mode as I plan to re-use that system |
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mstram |
'mornin from Toronto .. is there a known problem with the print() function for the mesecons luacontroller on Windows ? I'm not getting any output in (debug.txt ??) or the chat console |
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sfan5 |
nope should work |
| 11:46 |
deltasquared |
I have occassionally noticed print() playing up in a bunch of places but I never could seem to reproduce it, so I had assumed I had made a mistake somewhere. |
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sfan5 |
the output will go to the console window by default (which is not present on windows) |
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mstram |
'mornin from Toronto .. is there a known problem with the print() function for the mesecons luacontroller on Windows ? I'm not getting any output in (debug.txt ??) or the chat console |
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deltasquared |
"bunch of places" being both luacontrollers as well as mod init time |
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deltasquared |
mstram: you typed that twice :P |
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mstram |
sry ..mirc operator error ;) |
| 11:46 |
deltasquared |
mstram: oh yeah, print() in a luacontroller does not print to the user's console |
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deltasquared |
it would be cool to but I know of no such mechanism |
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* deltasquared |
has an idea for a digilines device which you can right-click to recieve messages sent to it |
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mstram |
@sfan5 I ASSumed the "console" window referred to a CMD prompt ? ... no ? |
| 11:47 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 11:48 |
mstram |
yes what? |
| 11:49 |
deltasquared |
just yes, print() should appear in the console output if you started MT that way |
| 11:49 |
deltasquared |
(I don't know if MT always opens a console on windows, I haven't used it there) |
| 11:51 |
mstram |
well according to the code in luacontroller print() actually calls dump() ... where is dump() ? is it an "internal function" inside minetest.exe ? ... or somewhere else that I can "hook/debug" ? |
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deltasquared |
mstram: not sure, but dump() returns a string representation of the object you pass it |
| 11:52 |
deltasquared |
so it'll print a pretty view of a table's values for instance |
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deltasquared |
I use it a lot from luacmd. |
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mstram |
dsq are you running on 'doze or 'nix ? |
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* deltasquared |
throws a penguin at mstram |
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deltasquared |
GAHNEEEW SLASH LEEENUUCCKS |
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deltasquared |
ahem. |
| 11:57 |
mstram |
well that might be the problem. I only found one other hit on google for the same problem for someone else running 'doze. I updated my forum post to add that I'm running Win7, asking if anyone else https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18745&p=298711#p298711 |
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mstram |
where does dump output on 'nix? |
| 12:02 |
deltasquared |
mstram: dump is not an output |
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deltasquared |
print() is |
| 12:02 |
deltasquared |
dump() returns a string. it's usually print(dump(x)) where x is whatever you want to see |
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mstram |
well /lua print(dump(foo)) is working fine .. it's the *luacontroller* block where it's not working |
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mstram |
is the "/" (chat) command in the minetest_game lua src (mods) ?... maybe I can see if luacontroller (print()) can use code from there |
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mstram |
found how to get luacontroller print() to send to the chat window ... I changed mods\luacontroller\init.lua : safe_print from 'print(dump(param))' to minetest.chat_send_all(dump(param)) ... I guess I could leave the current *print* alone and add a new function instead ... will try that next ... **fix for non working #print()# (luacontroller) on Windows (7) |
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GreenDimond |
How would I make a command detect all of a certain node in a world and put stuff in their inventories? |
| 15:11 |
twoelk |
sounds like a mining cheat :-D |
| 15:11 |
twoelk |
all your nyancats are belonging to us |
| 15:12 |
GreenDimond |
huh? |
| 15:12 |
Billre |
are belong* ;D |
| 15:12 |
GreenDimond |
I am saying the nodes themselves have inventoreis |
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GreenDimond |
and the nodes will be filled with stuff |
| 15:12 |
Billre |
There's mods for that |
| 15:12 |
Billre |
for certain chests |
| 15:12 |
GreenDimond |
Oh? |
| 15:13 |
Billre |
or are you talking about filling up machine inventories? |
| 15:13 |
GreenDimond |
I am saying, for instance, a command will detect all chests of a certain type, and fill the chests with stuff. |
| 15:14 |
GreenDimond |
I used "node" because they arent chests, but that is essentially the function. |
| 15:14 |
GreenDimond |
If there is a mod that has that function, would be nice to know. |
| 15:15 |
GreenDimond |
(so now, twoelk, not a mining cheat :P) |
| 15:15 |
GreenDimond |
no* |
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GreenDimond |
I swear I can type |
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Billre |
I was on a server once where I found chests that had diamonds, gold and other things ... they were placed by the server. But once I took the items out, the chest was empty |
| 15:18 |
Billre |
I don't think that's what you're looking for |
| 15:18 |
GreenDimond |
yeah no |
| 15:18 |
GreenDimond |
There is CTF stuff, but that fills the chest after_place_node |
| 15:19 |
GreenDimond |
I want it to fill with a command |
| 15:19 |
Billre |
That's what I was going to suggest . .that if it's a subgame do that |
| 15:19 |
GreenDimond |
it's a mod, and that function works, but its not what I want. |
| 15:20 |
GreenDimond |
I want to be able to type something like /fillchests and it fills all chests detected in the world |
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Billre |
I think the problem there would be map generation |
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GreenDimond |
how so? |
| 15:23 |
GreenDimond |
the chests are placed by players |
| 15:23 |
GreenDimond |
and then someone runs the command |
| 15:23 |
GreenDimond |
and boom |
| 15:23 |
GreenDimond |
chests filled |
| 15:23 |
twoelk |
this will only work on loaded chunks though - or at loading |
| 15:24 |
GreenDimond |
why? |
| 15:24 |
GreenDimond |
oh |
| 15:24 |
twoelk |
if you use chests that is |
| 15:24 |
Billre |
Might want to look into the mod that replaces nodes when players get close |
| 15:24 |
GreenDimond |
well they arent chests |
| 15:24 |
GreenDimond |
uhg |
| 15:24 |
GreenDimond |
thats not the function I want Billre |
| 15:25 |
GreenDimond |
twoelk: Filling on server-restart would be nice, as long as it could be enabled/disabled by command. |
| 15:25 |
twoelk |
ah, the apple-a-day thingie maybe |
| 15:25 |
GreenDimond |
In fact, I prefer that it fills after restart. |
| 15:26 |
GreenDimond |
But I dont know how to do that xD |
| 15:27 |
twoelk |
maybe on join? |
| 15:27 |
GreenDimond |
I dont want on_join |
| 15:27 |
GreenDimond |
Arg |
| 15:27 |
GreenDimond |
Are you listening? |
| 15:27 |
GreenDimond |
All the node inventories/metas/whateveryouwanttocallit need to be filled up all at once, either after a restart or with a cmd. |
| 15:28 |
rubenwardy |
GreenDimond, CTF works with the mapgen. TSM |
| 15:28 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't help you though |
| 15:28 |
GreenDimond |
I know |
| 15:28 |
GreenDimond |
CTF fills the inventories when the chests spawn |
| 15:28 |
rubenwardy |
minetest.find_nodes_in_range then minetest.get_inventory({type="node", position={}}) |
| 15:29 |
GreenDimond |
how large is the find_nodes_in_range? |
| 15:30 |
rubenwardy |
large? |
| 15:30 |
lumberJ |
GreenDimond, if refilling them on a restart is fine, why not an lbm? they won't be refilled all at once but they will be refilled as soon as the chunck that has the given node is loaded? |
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GreenDimond |
they need to fill all at once |
| 15:31 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: will the find_nodes_in_range find all the nodes in the world? |
| 15:32 |
GreenDimond |
looking at the api, it would be `minetest.find_nodes_in_area({-30000,-30000, -30000}, {30000, 30000, 30000}, "mynode:mymod")` |
| 15:33 |
Fuchs |
a wild rubenwardy appears |
| 15:33 |
rubenwardy |
no, it doesn't load map blocks |
| 15:33 |
rubenwardy |
Fuchs :D |
| 15:33 |
Fuchs |
Hi :) |
| 15:33 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 15:33 |
Fuchs |
got home safe, then. Great :) |
| 15:33 |
rubenwardy |
it's a lot closer for me aha. How was your journey? |
| 15:33 |
GreenDimond |
So is there any way at all to detect all of a certain node on server restart? |
| 15:34 |
GreenDimond |
or no? |
| 15:34 |
rubenwardy |
you could use an LBM. It's an ABM that runs once on a mapblock load |
| 15:34 |
twoelk |
define all |
| 15:34 |
rubenwardy |
good for migrations |
| 15:34 |
Fuchs |
rubenwardy: safe, minor turbulences before landing |
| 15:35 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: The part I am not getting is "on mapblock load". Doesnt that mean it wont activate til someone walks over there? |
| 15:35 |
twoelk |
all in all of a map that has not been generated yet? |
| 15:35 |
rubenwardy |
correct |
| 15:35 |
GreenDimond |
and mapblocks are unloaded on restart, correct? |
| 15:36 |
GreenDimond |
twoelk: The only places this node would be is in generated areas, because how else would players place them? :P |
| 15:38 |
rubenwardy |
Fuchs, well good you got back okay |
| 15:38 |
twoelk |
yes but you seem to want to preload the whole allready generated map into memory to address certain nodes |
| 15:38 |
rubenwardy |
Thanks very much for the chocolate, it's very nice :) |
| 15:38 |
Fuchs |
you're welcome, glad you were able to come :) |
| 15:38 |
GreenDimond |
twoelk: What I want is to fill all the nodes at once. Somehow detect all of that node that has been placed, and fill it. |
| 15:39 |
twoelk |
rubenwardy: seems to have been an interesting event |
| 15:39 |
GreenDimond |
(preferably in the most performance-efficient way possible) |
| 15:39 |
twoelk |
action is taken only for what is currently in memory |
| 15:39 |
GreenDimond |
hmmmm |
| 15:39 |
GreenDimond |
I suppose, |
| 15:39 |
Hijiri |
why does it need to be immediate? |
| 15:40 |
Hijiri |
If you really wanted to you could keep a list of all of that node and use it to load the nodes |
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GreenDimond |
I suppose it doesn't need to be immediate, because if an LBM is active when a player loads the chunk, it wouldn't matter when it was filled, because once they come near, it's as if it was already filled, right? |
| 15:40 |
Hijiri |
yeah |
| 15:41 |
twoelk |
hmm add nodes to a list when they are generated, moddify list on command, make nodes lookup list on load |
| 15:41 |
GreenDimond |
OK, so I have 2 options. |
| 15:41 |
GreenDimond |
I feel like the LBM may be a better option |
| 15:42 |
GreenDimond |
what say y'all though? |
| 15:42 |
Hijiri |
I would say LBM is better |
| 15:42 |
lumberJ |
that is essentially what an LBM is for |
| 15:42 |
Hijiri |
if you keep a list you could get inconsistencies between the list and the map, if there are bugs or bad shutdowns of the server |
| 15:42 |
lumberJ |
even if you could do it all at once, it would not be performance efficient |
| 15:43 |
GreenDimond |
Alright |
| 15:43 |
GreenDimond |
So now I get to figure out how to make an LBM do its job, and only activate when a command is run, |
| 15:43 |
twoelk |
sokomine's teleporters might be a model with their destination updating function for the list variant |
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GreenDimond |
although I run into another problem |
| 15:45 |
GreenDimond |
I only want it to work on nodes existing when the command is run |
| 15:45 |
GreenDimond |
if any other nodes are placed after it, I dont want them to be filled. |
| 15:45 |
GreenDimond |
unfortunately, an LBM will keep running |
| 15:46 |
GreenDimond |
ok new idea |
| 15:46 |
lumberJ |
LBM runs once, when the map chunk is loaded |
| 15:46 |
GreenDimond |
yes.. but.. hmmmm |
| 15:47 |
GreenDimond |
no that still has a problem |
| 15:47 |
GreenDimond |
but I wont go into that |
| 15:47 |
GreenDimond |
I think I have an easier way anyway |
| 15:48 |
GreenDimond |
I know that homedecor has a calender that somehow detects the date - I think it updates on restart, right? |
| 15:49 |
GreenDimond |
Nevermind, it only updates manually. |
| 15:50 |
GreenDimond |
wait |
| 15:51 |
GreenDimond |
hmmm nevermind |
| 15:51 |
GreenDimond |
there really is no easy way to do this, is there. |
| 15:51 |
lumberJ |
honestly its not completely clear what exactly you are trying to accomplish :P |
| 15:51 |
lumberJ |
you want them to refill on restart or on command? |
| 15:52 |
lumberJ |
when do you not want them to refill? |
| 15:52 |
GreenDimond |
either way |
| 15:52 |
GreenDimond |
either way works for me |
| 15:52 |
GreenDimond |
as long as all of that certain node gets filled |
| 15:52 |
lumberJ |
well the lbm will work with restart, but every restart it will run again |
| 15:52 |
lumberJ |
everytime that block is reloaded |
| 15:52 |
GreenDimond |
that can be fixed by setting a cmd to enable/disable the LBM |
| 15:53 |
lumberJ |
well, maybe it could just check for the items and if they are still there, it wouldn't duplicate filling it, if that is what you are trying to prevent |
| 15:54 |
GreenDimond |
but the problem is, say a chunck that has the node isnt loaded while the LBM is active, so when it finally gets loaded, the LBM is already disabled because we dont want it to keep filling the chests. |
| 15:54 |
twoelk |
an LBM with expire date? bestbefor :-P |
| 15:54 |
lumberJ |
well it won't keep filling the chests. it will only fill them once after a restart |
| 15:54 |
GreenDimond |
I know |
| 15:54 |
GreenDimond |
it keeps filling them after restarts |
| 15:54 |
GreenDimond |
I dont want that |
| 15:55 |
lumberJ |
and if you restart again, then just have it check if the chest has x number of items and don't let it refill |
| 15:55 |
GreenDimond |
but I dont want it to refill even if the player has emptied it |
| 15:55 |
GreenDimond |
it would be soooo much easier to tell you what I am making, but I would like it to stay secret for now >~< |
| 15:56 |
twoelk |
I guess this works best with an external list that keeps track of who got howmany goodies when |
| 15:56 |
twoelk |
sounds like you need santa's list -P |
| 15:57 |
GreenDimond |
Wait... |
| 15:57 |
lumberJ |
so GreenDimond, you only want it to happen once? |
| 15:58 |
GreenDimond |
I could use that idea lumberJ but a bit different. Define the node to have a have_filled attribute set to false, and when the LBM comes along, check if its true, if not, fill it and set it to true. |
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GreenDimond |
That way, when the LBM comes by again, it knows that certain chests have already been filled |
| 15:59 |
twoelk |
and control the LBM via config file? |
| 15:59 |
GreenDimond |
Why would I need to control it? |
| 15:59 |
lumberJ |
if this is a onetime deal 'run_at_every_load=false' will be simplest |
| 15:59 |
lumberJ |
like christmas morning it runs and then it won't refill them |
| 16:00 |
GreenDimond |
Hey congrats lumberJ you figured out what I am doing xD |
| 16:00 |
twoelk |
else it keeps on going for ever and ever after - also you might want to use it at different times with different content |
| 16:00 |
GreenDimond |
But again, the problem is, what if the player isnt on that day, so it never gets filled because the chunk never gets activated. |
| 16:00 |
GreenDimond |
which means if it doesnt run next restart, it never gets filled. |
| 16:00 |
lumberJ |
sure, just leave the lbm active |
| 16:01 |
twoelk |
could be a nice tool for teachers that have kids build a project in minetest |
| 16:01 |
lumberJ |
if it is set to run_at_every_load = false ... |
| 16:01 |
lumberJ |
it will only ever refill the 'chest' or whatever once |
| 16:01 |
GreenDimond |
oh, run_at_every_load means every chunk load, not server load xD |
| 16:03 |
twoelk |
couldn't some achievement mod be canibalized for this? |
| 16:03 |
lumberJ |
right, so if the player comes and loads their mapchunk later on, or places a node it shouldn't refill |
| 16:04 |
lumberJ |
just the first time its loaded and the node is found already there |
| 16:04 |
GreenDimond |
alright, so now I have to figure out how to set an LBM xD |
| 16:04 |
lumberJ |
if you set it to true it will refill it at every restart |
| 16:05 |
GreenDimond |
and that is set inside the LBM right? |
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lumberJ |
yep, see the example in the dev wiki |
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lumberJ |
just add that field inside where you register the lbm |
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lumberJ |
and your function will search for the node and replace it with a node with filled inventory |
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lumberJ |
the default is probably false anyway for the run_at_every_load |
| 16:11 |
GreenDimond |
https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/be409cc9ff13dc9a6daa05e3ef9ec2fd |
| 16:11 |
GreenDimond |
that look right? |
| 16:12 |
GreenDimond |
(lumberJ) |
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GreenDimond |
also, I have to set something to activate it, right? or will it start on its own? |
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GreenDimond |
oh, I still need the has_filled check |
| 16:17 |
lumberJ |
it will run automatically. i think you need to assign you 'inv' variable to the actual inventory associated with 'mynode' |
| 16:17 |
lumberJ |
in other words get the inventory from the node before you try to stuff it |
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GreenDimond |
Alrightm updated gist https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/be409cc9ff13dc9a6daa05e3ef9ec2fd (I wont bother changing names - dont care if you know what I am doing xD) |
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GreenDimond |
lumberJ^ |
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lumberJ |
ok, give me a sec. afk |
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twoelk |
can the inventory be filled by players? do you have to check if there is room? |
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GreenDimond |
twoelk: No, they cannot be filled by players. |
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twoelk |
would the inventories belonging to for example banned players be filled? |
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asl97 |
GreenDimond: you should look into table and scope, the has_filled in your after place is local and is gone after running the function, the has_filled in the lbm is an empty table and you made a typo with the comparing, it will always be false. you should also use actual bool rather than string. |
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GreenDimond |
asl97: `has_filled = {}` is outside after_place_node |
| 16:32 |
GreenDimond |
asl97: should I change it to just `has_filled = bla` without the `local` inside after_place and the lbm? |
| 16:34 |
asl97 |
even if you did that, it would only fill one stockings since you have set it to true and the next stocking wouldn't get filled |
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GreenDimond |
ah |
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GreenDimond |
because it is changing the global variable |
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GreenDimond |
so I need to define the table inside the after_place? |
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GreenDimond |
so that each node has it's own has_filled? |
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asl97 |
the place where the table is define is fine, you need to actually use the table in after_place and in the lbm |
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GreenDimond |
How would I do that? |
| 16:38 |
asl97 |
`has_filled[unique_id_per_stocking] = bla`, read more about table usage at https://www.lua.org/pil/2.5.html |
| 16:38 |
asl97 |
the unique key can be the pos hash, there should be some kind of function in the minetest lua api. |
| 16:39 |
asl97 |
although, something like this (the table) wouldn't persist through a reboot |
| 16:39 |
GreenDimond |
oh |
| 16:39 |
GreenDimond |
well then that's no good |
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GreenDimond |
I need to use a variable, dont I. |
| 16:40 |
asl97 |
you can use the node meta |
| 16:40 |
GreenDimond |
how? |
| 16:43 |
asl97 |
something like meta = minetest.get_meta(pos); meta:set_int("filled", 1), see http://dev.minetest.net/NodeMetaRef |
| 16:44 |
asl97 |
there isn't a set_bool afaik, set_int is probably the next best thing |
| 16:45 |
GreenDimond |
alright |
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GreenDimond |
so by nodedef, meta:set_int("filled", 0), and the lbm will check for 0, and change it to meta:set_int("filled", 1). |
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asl97 |
there is also the mod metadata storage if you don't want to put it into the node metadata but i haven't look much into that |
| 16:47 |
GreenDimond |
in the LBM, it would check with `if meta:get_int("filled") = 0 then` right? |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
the mod storage is the exact same API |
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asl97 |
if meta:get_int("filled") == 0 then |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
get_string, get_int, and so |
| 16:48 |
GreenDimond |
ah, ==. |
| 16:48 |
asl97 |
two '=' |
| 16:49 |
rubenwardy |
one day player attributes and settings will use the same metadata API as nodes, stacks, and mods :/ |
| 16:50 |
asl97 |
rubenwardy: the different is that node metadata handle the per node stuff while you have to handle that yourself if you use the mod metadata storage. |
| 16:51 |
GreenDimond |
Updated https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/be409cc9ff13dc9a6daa05e3ef9ec2fd . Also, attempted to make a command to enable the LBM when wanted - dont know if it is correct. |
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asl97 |
GreenDimond: the lbm will never get register |
| 16:53 |
GreenDimond |
why not? (yeah, probably a n00b error). |
| 16:54 |
asl97 |
the mod file are run just once, even if you change the variable, it doesn't rerun the file, not to mention, i don't think minetest allow registering anything after the server started. |
| 16:55 |
GreenDimond |
so how would I make a command to enable/disable the LBM? |
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twoelk |
how does the set command work? |
| 16:55 |
asl97 |
also, you have local on enable_stocking_lbm, it's gone after it been run >.> |
| 16:56 |
GreenDimond |
I has problems with local >.< |
| 16:57 |
GreenDimond |
twoelk: afaik, it sets stuff in the minetest.conf to whatever you set it to. |
| 16:59 |
GreenDimond |
asl97: So how would I make a command to disable/enable the LBM, because this mod will be enabled long before I want the LBM to be enabled. |
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asl97 |
you can't, afaik |
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GreenDimond |
So I can just comment it out for now and uncomment it before the restart I want it to start working on? |
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twoelk |
check for server date or maybe check if the xmas tree at spawn is lit or norad has detected a fast unknown flying object? |
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asl97 |
GreenDimond: couldn't you use on right click and show formspec? |
| 17:04 |
GreenDimond |
huh? |
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asl97 |
on right click, you check for condition and stuff, fill it if it met condition, then show the formspec |
| 17:10 |
GreenDimond |
hey, that's an idea. |
| 17:10 |
GreenDimond |
:| |
| 17:10 |
GreenDimond |
why didn't I think of that before |
| 17:11 |
GreenDimond |
I wouldn't even need an LBM |
| 17:11 |
GreenDimond |
right? |
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GreenDimond |
could I make it check it's own meta int? |
| 17:11 |
GreenDimond |
or wait |
| 17:12 |
GreenDimond |
no I wouldnt even need the int |
| 17:12 |
GreenDimond |
:o |
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GreenDimond |
n00b question: how do I set a variable properly? |
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GreenDimond |
obviously `local foo = true` isnt correct, do I just leave off the `local`? |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
local is only used for declarations |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
If lua was a sane language, it would require you to use a keyword to make a global variable |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
like global foo |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
but it doesn't |
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rubenwardy |
so an assignment will make a global if no local of that name exists |
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GreenDimond |
alright, so if I were to have a cmd change `foo`, I would define a function that just has `foo = true` and then inside the chatcommand `func = function(name, param) function.name()` |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
Only make global variables if they have the same name as you mod, and they are an API table |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not sure what function.name() is |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
or where foo is defined |
| 17:48 |
GreenDimond |
just the function name |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
ah, just some random function |
| 17:48 |
GreenDimond |
lemme make a gist |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
should work then, all though I hope foo isn't global |
| 17:51 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/3b995de1a346a2d1324d161211a0f728 |
| 17:51 |
GreenDimond |
I have a feeling I did it wrong :P |
| 17:52 |
rubenwardy |
you probably want something like this: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/7ead7cb2ecd71abf2159f2b2ab04d4aa |
| 17:52 |
rubenwardy |
make sure your mod is called "stockings" |
| 17:52 |
GreenDimond |
it's not, but that is the file it is in |
| 17:52 |
GreenDimond |
stocking.lua |
| 17:53 |
GreenDimond |
and I have a stocking = {} |
| 17:53 |
GreenDimond |
though I didnt put it in the gist |
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rubenwardy |
the only globals you make should be the name of the mod |
| 17:54 |
GreenDimond |
here is the entire file that is in https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/d0cedb7292ca92d57bbde6209ecf0afd |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
can do modname.stockings.fill_stocking() though |
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GreenDimond |
and so far it has worked |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
you can have local in a file, like a function |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
it will work if you have other globals, but is very much bad practice |
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GreenDimond |
so would I add `local` in front of each of the 4 tables at the top? |
| 17:56 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 17:56 |
rubenwardy |
that would make it only accessible in the file |
| 17:57 |
GreenDimond |
oh, btw this function is for enabling the stockings filling on access |
| 17:57 |
GreenDimond |
not whether they are filled or not |
| 17:57 |
GreenDimond |
but I suppose that doesnt matter atm |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: Updated https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/d0cedb7292ca92d57bbde6209ecf0afd , note lines 117-124 (checks for can_fill, I hope I did that right?) and 160-171 (fixed variable function). |
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GreenDimond |
is that stuff correct rubenwardy? |
| 18:21 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, looks ok |
| 18:21 |
rubenwardy |
err |
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rubenwardy |
stocking.can_fill = false |
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rubenwardy |
not local stocking.can_fill |
| 18:21 |
GreenDimond |
oh |
| 18:21 |
GreenDimond |
do I still need the local? |
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GreenDimond |
or no `local` and just `stocking.can_fill = false`? |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy do I still need the `local`? |
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GreenDimond |
he must be afk |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: So apparently, MT doesn't like the `.` in the 2 table names on line 3 and 4.. but only because I added `local` |
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GreenDimond |
no idea why? |
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Dargod |
How can I remove the disappearance of placed blocks? |
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Dargod |
I already trued set full_block_send_enable_min_time_from_building = 4 |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: I have it working mostly now I think. the 2 tables with `.` in the name had to have the `local` taken off. |
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GreenDimond |
A new question |
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GreenDimond |
is closing a singleplayer world and opening it again the same as restarting a multiplayer server? |
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deltasquared |
GreenDimond: for the most part, yes. certainly from the point of view of the mods that's what happens |
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GreenDimond |
darn. That means that using a command to set a variable to another thing wont work, because it resets when you restart. |
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deltasquared |
GreenDimond: what variable would this be? |
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GreenDimond |
just a variable I made |
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GreenDimond |
changeable with a command |
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deltasquared |
GreenDimond: you could always have a per-world config file |
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GreenDimond |
Yes, I thought about that. |
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swift110 |
is the recent minetest event on youtube yet? |
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deltasquared |
!mod ambience |
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MinetestBot |
deltasquared: Immersive Sounds [ambience] by Neuromancer - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2807 |
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deltasquared |
hmm, no, that's not quite what I had in mind |
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Shara |
swift110: if you mean freenode #live, it was a freenode event, not a minetest event. |
| 19:57 |
Shara |
There's not really anything Minetest related to put on youtube from it. |
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Fuchs |
Hai Shara! |
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Shara |
Hi Fuchs! |
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Shara |
GUess what chcolate I was eating today? :D |
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Fuchs |
so you made it safely back home, glad to see |
| 19:59 |
Shara |
Guess/chocolate* |
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Fuchs |
aww, you still have some left? Enjoy :) |
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Shara |
Got home yesterday evening. |
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Fuchs |
yes, I'm afraid the only thing worth uploading are talks, and there was none for minetest. We do have pictures, but I have to admit that the ones of minetest are unfortunately all a bit unfocussed, plus we weren't planning on releasing them |
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Fuchs |
ah, good :) |
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Shara |
I tend to vanish when cameras get pointed :D |
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Fuchs |
I think I did catch you, but see above, first of all not terribly focussed, and not planned to be released :p |
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Fuchs |
maybe mike had better luck |
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Fuchs |
anyway, it was nice having you two there, and I hope to see you again next year! |
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Fuchs |
(I might bring more Toblerone, since that is what I am good at) |
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Shara |
Fuchs: Likewise, it was a pleasure to meet you and the others there as well |
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Fuchs |
\o/ |
| 20:09 |
Shara |
And if you're offering Toblerone again... what can I say? That's an easy way to get me moving :D |
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Fuchs |
yeah, definitely bringing that again. I was also planning to bring http://www.fixderfuchs.ch/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/fix_by_laederach.jpg these, but they were out of stock :( |
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Shara |
That's maybe too adorable to actually eat! |
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Fuchs |
yes, I heard that from a couple of people, and it at least one case it started collecting mold, which is less cute |
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Fuchs |
and should have been eaten, because by then it was a bit of a waste |
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Shara |
Sometimes simple chocolate bars are better because of this :) |
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Fuchs |
yeah, I'll definitely also bring just regular bland Toblerone |
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Shara |
And coconut :) |
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Shara |
Have to head off now - thanks again, and maybe more MT people will join us next year |
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Fuchs |
well yes, black, white, regular, crunchy and coconut |
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Fuchs |
would be great, yes. Have a nice evening! |
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Shara |
You too! |
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* Sokomine |
grabs some toblerone from fuchs and runs away with it |
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rubenwardy |
Fuchs' Foxes! :O |
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swift110 |
hey rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
GreenDimond, you should avoid using per world config files. Mod storage is usually what you want |
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rubenwardy |
also, variables can't have dots in them |
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rubenwardy |
so foo.bar = 3 means get the foo table, get the bar key, then set to 3 |
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rubenwardy |
"foo.bar" is not a variable. foo is a variable, and bar is a member of that foo table |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: ahh, ok. so what do you suggest I do instead of config files? |
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rubenwardy |
local storage = minetest.get_mod_storage() storage:get_bool("is_full") storage:set_bool("is_full", true) |
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rubenwardy |
make sure the get_mod_storage is called from init.lua scope |
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rubenwardy |
not in a function |
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rubenwardy |
however, you should probably use node meta data to store this |
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GreenDimond |
Can it go in stocking.lua? |
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rubenwardy |
not sure |
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GreenDimond |
how would I use metadata? |
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rubenwardy |
https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/chapters/node_metadata.html |
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GreenDimond |
Yes I know that, but metadata is per-node. |
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GreenDimond |
It cant be per-node in order to work. |
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GreenDimond |
It has to be a setting of sorts. |
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GreenDimond |
The stocking has to know on-access, whether its allowed to fill or not, and that has to be done with something that is not metadata, either a variable or setting or something. |
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rubenwardy |
what about multiple players? |
| 22:59 |
GreenDimond |
what about multiple players? |
| 22:59 |
GreenDimond |
What do you mean? |
| 22:59 |
rubenwardy |
if there are multiplayers, they'll all use the same value if it's a variable or setting |
| 22:59 |
rubenwardy |
should each player have their own value? |
| 22:59 |
rubenwardy |
if no - mod storage |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
if yes - player attributes |
| 23:00 |
GreenDimond |
I want them to all follow the same value. |
| 23:01 |
GreenDimond |
If the setting is set to fillable, then the first time they access the stocking it gets filled. If not fillable, then the stocking wont get filled. |
| 23:01 |
GreenDimond |
So I would use modstorage? |
| 23:01 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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GreenDimond |
rubenwardy is storage:get_bool("is_full") for the on_rightclick to check for? |
| 23:32 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: I get the error attempt to call method set_bool (a nil value) |
| 23:32 |
GreenDimond |
does that mean it needs to be in the init.lua? |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
huh |
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rubenwardy |
get/set_bool doesn't exist |
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rubenwardy |
use minetest.is_yes(storage:get_bool("is_full")) for reading |
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GreenDimond |
but you do I set it? |
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GreenDimond |
how* |
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rubenwardy |
and storage:set_string("is_full", is_full and "true" or "false") |
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rubenwardy |
oops |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
use minetest.is_yes(storage:get_string("is_full")) for reading |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
is_full and "true" or "false" returns "true" if is_full is truthy, and "false" otherwise |
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| 23:37 |
GreenDimond |
wait |
| 23:37 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy, you put the true or false in the set function |
| 23:38 |
GreenDimond |
why? |
| 23:38 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 23:38 |
GreenDimond |
I want the function to enable it? |
| 23:38 |
rubenwardy |
not sure what you mean? |
| 23:38 |
GreenDimond |
storage:set_string("is_full", is_full and "true" or "false") |
| 23:38 |
GreenDimond |
that is for setting is_full to true or false |
| 23:38 |
GreenDimond |
right? |
| 23:38 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 23:38 |
GreenDimond |
how? |
| 23:39 |
GreenDimond |
it just returns stuff |
| 23:39 |
GreenDimond |
it reads it |
| 23:39 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not sure what you mean |
| 23:39 |
GreenDimond |
arg |
| 23:39 |
GreenDimond |
how do I use it |
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GreenDimond |
`function stocking.enable_can_fill() |
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GreenDimond |
storage:set_string("can_fill", can_fill and "true" or "false") |
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GreenDimond |
end` |
| 23:40 |
GreenDimond |
that is what I am using |
| 23:40 |
GreenDimond |
doesnt seem right |
| 23:40 |
rubenwardy |
can_fill will be a variable to whether it should be true or false |
| 23:40 |
GreenDimond |
but how do I set it to true or false? |
| 23:41 |
rubenwardy |
so if you always want to set it to true, then storage:set_string("can_fill", true and "true" or "false") which is equivilent to storage:set_string("can_fill", "true") |
| 23:41 |
GreenDimond |
does it matter which method I use? |
| 23:41 |
rubenwardy |
both will work, but the latter is better |
| 23:42 |
GreenDimond |
ooohhh, I get what you meant by "true" or "false" now |
| 23:42 |
rubenwardy |
https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/a48ba9a451c142660c7b314be02ab251 |
| 23:42 |
rubenwardy |
updated, forgot "function" |
| 23:43 |
rubenwardy |
if you only set it to true or false, best just to use this storage:set_string("can_fill", "true") |
| 23:44 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: https://gist.github.com/GreenXenith/4cfda6f23def80b997f4e9e10c34b739 |
| 23:45 |
rubenwardy |
looks correct |
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GreenDimond |
Looks like it worked... |
