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Errante |
minetest, on windows, dies with fatal error of access violation when a trusted mod tries to require sockets.core |
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rubenwardy |
it definitely shouldn't do that :) |
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rubenwardy |
are you doing local ie = minetest.request_insecure_environment |
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rubenwardy |
then ie.require("sockets.core") |
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celeron55: wish I could let you have fun figuring out the issue with my Digitech RP80 :P |
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rubenwardy: yes, Im using kaeza irc mod with his special setup for windows |
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tumeninodes |
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I kind of lack skills and resources to debug and remake it |
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Errante |
Ive tried to recompile luasockets with cygwin but its painful |
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Errante |
would it be easier with gnu? |
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Errante |
kaeza's spacial setup for windows mentions that it would need to recompile luasockets for lua51.dll from minetest's bin folder and made a prebuilt luasocket and also uploaded makefile, but both are offline now on dropbox |
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LazyJ |
kaeza's dropbox? |
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Errante |
there are dropbox profiles? |
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LazyJ |
Not sure if "profile" is the term but I do know Dropbox changed how files can be publicly accessed this past spring. |
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LazyJ |
Caused a big headache for me because that is where I kept some png images that I use on the forums. |
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LazyJ |
Now each individual file has to be set to allow public access instead of having a "Public" folder like Dropbox used to. |
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LazyJ |
If kaeza changed a file name or has not set those files to be publicly accessible, then he may have forgotten. |
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Errante |
Im trying to plug dogecoin in minetest, through a mod. I choose dogecoin because there is a bitcoin mod already. I dont have any code yet, since jsonrpc4lua isnt working for me. |
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Errante |
I would like to take this idea for the forum |
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Errante |
I thought on some chat commands, like /doge balance, /doge send Errante 10,/doge send Do6ec0in4dd2e55 20 |
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Errante |
/doge receive |
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Errante |
transactions could be verified by 3rdparty |
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Errante |
I wonder how this could be used to solve some people's cry about a central authentication |
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Errante |
sorry spam |
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[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Check item_drop amount clientside (#6242) ad9677a https://git.io/v5OMr (2017-08-26T06:11:59Z) |
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[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Add on_grant and on_revoke callbacks (#4713) 096ea03 https://git.io/v5OMX (2017-08-26T06:17:05Z) |
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Is anyone else having problems with lots of bots on their server all the time? |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Android stepheight: Only increase if 'touching ground' (#6313) 0e0643d https://git.io/v5ODB (2017-08-26T06:45:09Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgfractal: Use 'switch case' instead of 'if else' (#6314) e55aeec https://git.io/v5ODR (2017-08-26T06:43:50Z) |
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jas_ |
Emerald2 not tjat im aware but I ow would i know? |
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Emerald2 |
They all seem to have 3 numbers after their names and they mostly congregate at spawn and don't really do much. |
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jas_ |
Not yr lyysyy ystpyeytaykiyhyg ytmyytyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydtyfyyyyyyy |
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jas_ |
Yyyyyyyyy |
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Emerald2 |
Except be a total waste of space and a lot of login and logout messages. |
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Emerald2 |
Cat on the keyboard? XD |
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jas_ |
I sweat a lot and am trying to use phone to type |
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jas_ |
They dont seem to be native english speaking |
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jas_ |
Some text looks like japanese or some such |
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Emerald2 |
I have no idea what they're saying. Apparently there's a guy in China who runs a lot of the bots. |
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jas_ |
I play with them. If they r bots.. They r of hifh quality imo |
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Emerald2 |
I'm not sure how our server owner tells the bots from the players. They're really getting out of hand though. |
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jas_ |
I dont think theyre bots right now. I think they r mobile users |
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Emerald2 |
The name and what they're doing seems to be a good clue in. |
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jas_ |
They play build chat |
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Emerald2 |
We get some mobile users too, they actually play the game though. |
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jas_ |
They act to me like regular mboile players |
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Emerald2 |
maybe yours aren't bots then? |
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jas_ |
Only new locale |
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jas_ |
!server dcbl |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 4/20, 2/6 | Version: 0.5.0-dev / dcbl | Ping: 119ms |
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jas_ |
Idk. I believe they r human |
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MinetestBot |
[git] bendeutsch -> minetest/minetest: Alternative code for slipping (#6256) fc13c00 https://git.io/v5OD9 (2017-08-26T07:01:09Z) |
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!seen DS |
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fireglow: ds was last seen at 2017-01-12 17:21:34 UTC on #minetest |
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fireglow |
!seen DS-minetest |
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fireglow: ds-minetest was last seen at 2017-08-15 10:04:04 UTC on #minetest-de |
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[git] Ekdohibs -> minetest/minetest: Add '@n' escape sequences and some documentation on translated strings. 5a6618c https://git.io/v5OSl (2017-08-26T07:43:08Z) |
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https://pastebin.com/tsHWAWF0 |
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hisforever |
Hi is there ant tourtals on how to do a fountain? |
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hisforever |
and water features |
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Megaf |
celeron55, Morning, so, the latest big project of Mighty Car mods, there's this car, from Japan, they like it a lot, is a small car, 4x4 and powerful. They wanted to import to Australia, but by the law they can't import that car. So they got the car chopped in half, and got all the bits and pieces shipped, as parts. The got a slightly different model of the car from Australia, and now they are transfering all parts from the Japan car to the Australian |
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Megaf |
one. I'd say that's difficult and it's not breaking. |
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celeron55 |
i hate bureaucracy and don't find it or working around it interesting at all |
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celeron55 |
and i mean |
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celeron55 |
there's nothing technically difficult in that task either |
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celeron55 |
all working parts, just bolt out and in |
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celeron55 |
boring |
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habeangur |
Hi, any oil mod for minetest? |
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habeangur |
I've seen oil(not now, months ago) on servers but I don't know which it is in which mod |
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habeangur |
Out`Of`Control: any idea? |
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habeangur |
sfan5: you have oil mod? |
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sfan5 |
my oil mod is very outdated |
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sfan5 |
pipeworks/technic might have what you're looking for |
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habeangur |
sfan5: I didn't find in your Github |
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habeangur |
sfan5: oil mod |
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sfan5 |
it's not on github |
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habeangur |
ok |
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habeangur |
I'm making a mod and I want to use oil as its fuel, Is requiring user to install pipeworks just because of oil in it a good idea? |
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Krock |
if there's another mod which contains oil, you could optional-dep on both and check whether is used (or none) |
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habeangur |
Krock: yes, but I mean user will have to install a big pipeworks just because of the small oil in it, also oil won't be optional-dep |
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habeangur |
as user needs this to make the mod really working |
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sfan5 |
you should really depend on pipeworks |
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habeangur |
sfan5: which one is more popular?pipeworks or technic? |
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sfan5 |
idk |
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habeangur |
thanks for answering, sfan5, Krock |
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Krock |
pipeworks 27% (36), technic 15% (20) where the numbers are the amount of servers in the server list |
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Krock |
so pipeworks is more popular for servers - but it might be a bit different for singleplayer worlds |
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sy |
you need both for oil |
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Krock |
you need homedecor for oil extract |
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sy |
uh no |
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Krock |
why uh no? https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/blob/master/homedecor/crafts.lua#L307 |
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sy |
you don't need it to get oil |
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Krock |
but you can get it to get oil |
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habeangur |
Krock: homedecor has oil, too? |
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habeangur |
lemme see |
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Krock |
strangely you also get the bottle for it when crafting the oil with six leaves |
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habeangur |
Krock: "the bottle"? |
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Krock |
vessel. bag. container to put the oil in |
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habeangur |
oil extract seems fine, it's easy to craft and also homedecor is even more popular than pipeworks and technic |
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Krock |
homedecor, 56 servers, 44% of all public ones. indeed, might be a better choice if the oil is worthful enough for your purposes |
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habeangur |
Krock: I don't get "a bottle", I get an oil extract which is both oil and bottle(bottle is not a seperated thing) |
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Krock |
never said it would be separate |
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habeangur |
Krock: what's strange? |
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Krock |
can we drop this topic? |
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habeangur |
Krock: yes |
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habeangur |
Krock: is that chart in the wiki frequency updated? |
| 14:11 |
Krock |
see history. it's not updated that frequently |
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habeangur |
Krock: what's 16mb.com? |
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Krock |
hostinger |
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habeangur |
hmm, just 2 dollars a month |
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IhrFussel |
!tell Errante I run my server since May 2016 and I see no real difference between the behavior of mobile users now and pre-prefix names era... I highly doubt that the p0layers with the Names + numbers are "bots": 1. They seem to normally walk around 2. They seem to try to attack others 3. They ALWAYS find the correct way to a certain house or building |
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MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: I'll pass that on when Errante is around |
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IhrFussel |
!Errante One reason why they have these names is because the devs of the app they use avoid the "username cannot be empty" error on connec |
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IhrFussel |
Oops |
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IhrFussel |
!tell !Errante One reason why they have these names is because the devs of the app they use avoid the "username cannot be empty" error on connect |
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MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: yeah, sure, whatever |
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Krock |
IhrFussel, maybe these players just have the entire map in their head to find you |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, jokes aside I don't think there is a bot that's intelligent enough to act like a real human...some say "but they just stand somewhere and log off after a while" that was ALWAYS the case, it's because they have the MT app in the background or they are losing the connection |
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Krock |
kids, trying to do something and find something else to do |
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IhrFussel |
But I gotta say sometimes it's weird how my servers gets suddenly filled with 15+ mobile users in a matter of minutes...but that could have many reasons (popular server crashed, popular server reached max users, certain apps "feature" certain servers) |
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Krock |
or schools, either in classroom or pause? |
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IhrFussel |
Yeah that's possible too...and it would make sense cause they stay for 1-2 hours and then leave again (i mean they don't just stay at the same spot in that time, they just seem to have no time left anymore) |
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habeangur |
IhrFussel: bots? |
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habeangur |
IhrFussel: we have minetest bots? |
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IhrFussel |
habeangur, Errante talked about "bots" in MT ... you can read it in the IRC logs http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2017-08-26 |
| 16:26 |
IhrFussel |
IMO these (or at least most of them) are not bots, they are just clueless mobile users who probably don't even know that they play on a "Minetest" server cause their app is called "Exploration" or something like that |
| 16:28 |
IhrFussel |
I mean I play ~ 10 hours per DAY on my server (yes I'm that crazy) so I watch them very closely when they join |
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Krock |
IhrFussel, and in your curriculum vitae there will be an entry "Active Minetest player for X years" ;) |
| 16:39 |
twoelk |
actually nowadays there might even be jobs where a having been an admin on a games server might be usefull :-P |
| 16:49 |
IhrFussel |
=P mostly I'm just standing somewhere on the map working on the server code in another window haha |
| 16:51 |
nore |
<habeangur> sfan5: which one is more popular?pipeworks or technic? |
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nore |
technic depends on pipeworks |
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nore |
So every server you'll find with technic will also have pipeworks |
| 16:56 |
IhrFussel |
And every server with those 2 mods will crash a lot |
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habeangur |
IhrFussel: I thought there are minetest bots, this was the idea which came to me months ago, I came here and they said there is not such thing but the code is open and you can do it yourself |
| 17:35 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: however, I didn't make minetest bot(yet), and I was thinking someone else finally made it |
| 17:35 |
habeangur |
nore, thanks for answering |
| 17:35 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: lol |
| 17:36 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: if I coded them, I may come test on your server :p |
| 17:37 |
IhrFussel |
habeangur, the question is what is the benefit? Having some random bots connected to a server? Usually people code bots for a certain purpose |
| 17:38 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: you can think they are new AIs |
| 17:38 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: my idea is not a bot to be online when a player isn't |
| 17:39 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: they are new players for themselves and somehow like a mob |
| 17:39 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: well this is my idea |
| 17:39 |
IhrFussel |
You could create an ingame spam bot but it would be very easy to find out |
| 17:39 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: hey, not spam |
| 17:40 |
IhrFussel |
What you think would be wayy better as mod or even as part of the engine |
| 17:40 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: making a bot with a enough good AI is not really easy |
| 17:41 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: no not a mod or such thing |
| 17:41 |
twoelk |
habeangur: there once was a bot that travelled red crab's server to make a copy of the map. |
| 17:41 |
IhrFussel |
No but again why would someone spend so much time on it? People won't get money for it |
| 17:42 |
IhrFussel |
Most bots either advertise something or the programmers have a contract with certain companies about "spying" |
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habeangur |
twoelk: can you give me more information about it, especially its source code! |
| 17:42 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: I'm a bot |
| 17:42 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: spend time on what? |
| 17:43 |
IhrFussel |
Spend time on coding a bot...for free |
| 17:43 |
IhrFussel |
With no profit |
| 17:44 |
twoelk |
let me search the redcrab thread - I can't remember the source code ever published but there is the map discover mod that teleports the player around in an automated pattern |
| 17:44 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: if you mean "money" by profit, Minetest developers don't get money |
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habeangur |
twoelk: wait |
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habeangur |
twoelk: my idea is this: a program which connects to a server and using minetest protocol, does someting |
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habeangur |
twoelk: making such a mod is not that hard |
| 17:46 |
habeangur |
twoelk: and my idea is not "a mod" |
| 17:47 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2950 have a look at this |
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habeangur |
seems an old post |
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habeangur |
yes 2012 |
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habeangur |
it really eats bandwidth |
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IhrFussel |
habeangur, the MT devs do it for a certain purpose that makes sense...they offer/improve a game engine that's used by many people ... but a bot that just connects to a server and acts like a human doesn't seem senseful |
| 17:55 |
IhrFussel |
john_cephalopoda, the dev version is not compatible with 0.4.16 and older anymore |
| 17:56 |
IhrFussel |
john_cephalopoda, yes the next big release will be 0.5.0 which means many new features but also lots of breakage |
| 17:57 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: if it doesn't make sense to me, so I won't do it but if it is I'll do |
| 17:57 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=127893#p127893 here's the first post explaining Luigi's mission on redcrab. the first sightings are mentioned a bit earlier on the same page |
| 17:58 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: anyway, it's just a good/bad idea yet |
| 17:58 |
IhrFussel |
There will be a 0.4.17 in a few months I think but it will NOT contain the new features...any server/client that uses 0.5.0 will not be able to play (properly) on/with a <=0.4.16 server/client |
| 17:59 |
IhrFussel |
habeangur, so what you mean is they just do it for fun or because they are bored since there is no other reason behind it |
| 18:00 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: "they"? |
| 18:02 |
IhrFussel |
They = anyone who codes such a bot ... again: There are many types of bots out there but usually they make sense...they don't simply connect to a server to "play" human...they either try to do harm to the server, advertise on the server or other stuff |
| 18:04 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: "anyone who codes such a bot" doesn't exist yet |
| 18:04 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: let's forget about it |
| 18:05 |
IhrFussel |
Well some seem to think the bots do exist and they play on their servers |
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* twoelk |
imagines a herd of bots connecting to servers to build an empire - waiting to escape the virtuell world |
| 18:08 |
habeangur |
twoelk: cool |
| 18:08 |
habeangur |
twoelk: we need a team of AI experts first |
| 18:09 |
habeangur |
an API would be fine too |
| 18:10 |
twoelk |
didn't the freeminer guys use some bots for connection stress tests? can't remember wether the avatars moved though |
| 18:14 |
habeangur |
really? |
| 18:15 |
habeangur |
twoelk: more info pls |
| 18:16 |
* twoelk |
runs and hides |
| 18:18 |
IhrFussel |
habeangur, you seem to have no clue about programming bots and just wait for someone to feed you the source code |
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| 18:18 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: no |
| 18:19 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: I don't want to start this timekiller low priority project now |
| 18:19 |
habeangur |
(which some people say this doesn't make sense) |
| 18:20 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: but If there is already such thing, I would like to know about it |
| 18:20 |
IhrFussel |
Well I said that because the way you described your bot ideas didn't sound like the bots would have any purpose... twoelk just mentioned another purpose for bots: stress tests |
| 18:22 |
habeangur |
IhrFussel: let's simply forget my bot idea |
| 18:24 |
twoelk |
nah, rather go on and make a list off things a bot could be used for - others might get interested - you are not the first playing with the idea |
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habeangur |
twoelk: my idea is to make an API, then people can do whatever they want with it |
| 18:41 |
habeangur |
twoelk: map extractor, spaming and attacking the server(not good but it will be possible...), act like a human, act like a mob, trading, attacking other players, hirable(as a soldier?or the one who defends your home), etc |
| 18:42 |
habeangur |
twoelk: but all these can be a lot easier done simply via mods |
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sy |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
sy! |
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sy |
wow that was fast |
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jcjordyn120 |
is there any way to password protect a server? |
| 19:29 |
jcjordyn120 |
not the users, but the server itself? |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1095 |
| 19:30 |
Krock |
^ jcjordyn120, only valid for new users but I think that's fine too, isn't it? |
| 19:30 |
Krock |
otherwise you don't need to announce it on the list |
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MinetestBot |
Errante: Aug-26 16:00 UTC <IhrFussel> I run my server since May 2016 and I see no real difference between the behavior of mobile users now and pre-prefix names era... I highly doubt that the p0layers with the Names + numbers are "bots": 1. They seem to normally walk around 2. They seem to try to attack others 3. They ALWAYS find the correct way to a certain house or building |
| 19:40 |
Errante |
got a gnubox, but it runs lua 5.3 :( |
| 19:47 |
Errante |
irc mod seens to ask for lua 5.1 |
| 19:48 |
sfan5 |
minetest can't use anything other than lua 5.1 |
| 19:51 |
Errante |
:( downloading lua 5.1 sources. could it be 5.1.5? |
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sfan5 |
it can't link to system-wide lua either |
| 19:53 |
sfan5 |
you're best off just installing luajit |
| 19:59 |
Errante |
luajit is avaliable |
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Fixer |
lol |
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Fixer |
speaking about bots |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
i've joined dcbl server and found out strange player, its chat was very strange |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
like from neural network bot |
| 20:44 |
habeangur |
Fixer: how it was strange? |
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| 20:44 |
Fixer |
strange unnatural language |
| 20:45 |
habeangur |
Fixer: I've seen many strange people on Liberty Land |
| 20:45 |
Fixer |
maybe text was even translated |
| 20:46 |
habeangur |
Fixer: yea |
| 20:46 |
habeangur |
Fixer: I've seen these |
| 20:46 |
habeangur |
strange language |
| 20:47 |
habeangur |
3 years old language |
| 20:47 |
habeangur |
I mean they are like a baby who just started speaking! |
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* Raven262 |
has seen worse. |
| 21:01 |
Raven262 |
Fixer, ever happened to you that some random player stalks you around the map, doesn't speak and does strange things (placing blocks around in patterns). When you try to communicate with it, it ignores you as if it doesn't understand a word. But sometimes, while you are being stalked by it on a regular basis, it lets out a few words. The thing is that these few words can always have a variety of meanings, and are not in any way |
| 21:01 |
Raven262 |
connected to the current situation. There, that was the strangest experience i had in minetest yet (stayed there just to see what will happen :P) |
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habeangur |
Raven262: I didn't see such player, but I've heard of a player who was making walls around other players |
| 21:04 |
Raven262 |
That can be seen around all the time |
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| 21:05 |
habeangur |
twoelk|2: twoelkv1.0 is good enough, we don't need the 2nd version |
| 21:05 |
Raven262 |
some servers allow players to suffocate each other by placing them inside walls :P |
| 21:05 |
habeangur |
heh |
| 21:07 |
habeangur |
Raven262: I think hitting them via sword is easier than making a wall around them, they can teleport anyway. |
| 21:08 |
Raven262 |
well, yea |
| 21:09 |
habeangur |
Raven262: but making a TNT wall around them would be good, but many servers disable tnt :( |
| 21:09 |
Raven262 |
Cause of laaaaaaag |
| 21:09 |
Raven262 |
A good thing i think |
| 21:10 |
habeangur |
Raven262: because of lag they disable it? |
| 21:10 |
Raven262 |
Yep |
| 21:10 |
Raven262 |
You can't avoid protection using tnt |
| 21:11 |
Raven262 |
so this is the only reason. |
| 21:12 |
habeangur |
Raven262: how I can't avoid protection? |
| 21:12 |
habeangur |
I place it near the unclaimed land, then BOOM! |
| 21:12 |
Raven262 |
It won't damage the protected area :P |
| 21:13 |
Raven262 |
Ask tenplus1 when hes around |
| 21:13 |
Raven262 |
He is working on those stuff |
| 21:13 |
habeangur |
Raven262: ok |
| 21:14 |
habeangur |
Raven262: but so bad, not for me but for bad pupil |
| 21:14 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 21:15 |
habeangur |
Raven262: the other reason which admins may want to disable it, is that usage of it overground makes it ugly |
| 21:15 |
MinetestBot |
[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: TNT: Add explode_center flag fe67ffd https://git.io/v53Cf (2017-08-26T21:14:44Z) |
| 21:15 |
habeangur |
wow |
| 21:16 |
habeangur |
Raven262: we where talking about TnT and tenplus1 and ... |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
| 21:16 |
Raven262 |
The things are happening all the time :P |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
I also meant to merge that about 20 minutes ago |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
*I actually |
| 21:17 |
habeangur |
why you mt developers don't simply merge PRs? |
| 21:17 |
Raven262 |
They all have to agree |
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| 21:17 |
rubenwardy |
we announce that we're going to merge something usually 10 minutes in advance |
| 21:18 |
habeangur |
no no |
| 21:18 |
rubenwardy |
to avoid conflicts (multiple people merging at the same time) |
| 21:18 |
habeangur |
I mean in Github you don't simply click the merge button, someone else commits with one of you and then PR is closed |
| 21:19 |
rubenwardy |
heh, it varies |
| 21:19 |
habeangur |
someone else is the one who opened PR |
| 21:21 |
rubenwardy |
I tend to use the button unless I'm the author of the PR |
| 21:21 |
rubenwardy |
as if I merge my own PRs using a buttons it says authored with GitHub |
| 21:22 |
habeangur |
what? |
| 21:22 |
habeangur |
rubenwardy: authored with Github? |
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botch |
I don't suppose anyone uses a touchscreen device for Minetest do you? |
| 22:53 |
botch |
... |
| 22:54 |
sfan5 |
on desktop likely not |
| 22:54 |
sfan5 |
mobile sure |
| 22:54 |
Errante |
I believe the number of mobiles outgrow the number of keyboards |
| 22:55 |
botch |
Cool...My specific question is, can you see the minimap on a touchscreen device or is that only an option on a pc/linux/apple option? |
| 22:55 |
Errante |
I could activate through minetest.conf |
| 22:55 |
sfan5 |
minimap should work |
| 22:55 |
Errante |
you* |
| 22:56 |
botch |
I use the pc (sometimes) the linux laptop and iMac but I have no experience on a touch screen device. |
| 22:56 |
botch |
Could you tell me how to pull up the minimap on a touchscreen device? |
| 22:56 |
Errante |
I did run it on a galaxy pocket |
| 22:56 |
Errante |
idk |
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botch |
I think all the other controls on a touchscreen device for Minetest is on the internet, but that specifically is not mentioned |
| 22:57 |
Errante |
enable_minimap |
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