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!server Megaf |
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Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/6, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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bigfoot547: No results |
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Megaf |
!server foot |
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Megaf: No results |
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Megaf |
Do you even have a server? |
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I'll take that as a no. |
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bigfoot547: hi there. Normal surviva |
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With mesecons and pipeworks |
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4Pre7tty8 co3lors! |
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!helpimstuck |
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bigfoot547: nope |
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!commands |
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!help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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ICAS literally made my day - they used screenshots of MT for one question |
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wilkgr |
Hi LazyJ :) |
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LazyJ |
Howdy wilkgr ;) |
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Milan[m] |
no way to hack a background color in a textarea? :/ |
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Milan[m] |
oh wait i guess i somehow modified it by accident ... also good |
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Milan[m] |
hm i guess it just lost transparency thats all :/ |
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Wuzzy |
hahahaha lol |
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Wuzzy |
get_sky() got broken in current dev |
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VanessaE |
^^^ and that's why Matrix is A Bad Ideaâ„¢ :P |
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srifqi |
Hey! |
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jomat |
VanessaE: so irc is a bad idea, too? because netsplits can happen? |
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sfan5 |
that wasn't a netsplit though |
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jomat |
but comparable with a netsplit. the matrix-irc-bridge was restarted so we lost a bunch of users connected to that thing. same effect as a netsplit when one or more irc servers and their connected users go away :-D |
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jomat |
there are better reasons to call infrastructure run by matrix.org a bad idea :-) |
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yusf[m] |
bigfoot547: Found your tanks mod, looks good! :) |
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Elench |
How plausible is it to run a small private MT server on a Pi3? |
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Elench |
I'll find out for myself when it finishes updating, but I'm impatient :þ |
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IhrFussel |
Elench, the engine itself is pretty lightweight..it depends entirely on the mods you want to add |
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Elench |
Yeah, I'll avoid mesecons and stuff unfortunately |
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IhrFussel |
I ran a public server on my home PC (Intel Celeron singlecore) with 15 players and a few heavy mods...the max_lag sometimes reached 5 secs but it wasn't too bad |
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Elench |
Maybe I'll get a few people on and keep adding mods until it's horrific |
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XeonSquared |
A Pi3 is a pretty powerful box |
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srifqi |
Anybody knows when did Minetest changes it's mainmenu tabs to be "Local Game" and "Play Online"? |
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XeonSquared |
I run a fairly modded server on a dual-core Atom box and it's never been overly bad even with 10 players, and I think the Pi3 has more RAM and a better CPU than that box |
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Elench |
Maybe I will try the mods I really want then :3 |
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Elench |
I can always remove them if they're problematic |
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XeonSquared |
Aye |
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Elench |
Having my own server running all the time will make it easier to work on my mods too |
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Elench |
Ah, need to compile from git |
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srifqi |
When will Minetest enter feature freeze? |
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rubenwardy |
srifqi, already has |
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srifqi |
Just now? |
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rubenwardy |
Sunday 23:59 UTC |
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srifqi |
Oh, I see. |
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srifqi |
Just compiled few hours ago. |
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BBmine |
Hello, what is the On-topic forum for? |
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yusf[m] |
Anyone knowing if progress is made on nice-looking, air-free underwater plantlikes? |
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omarh |
how to be an irc |
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sfan5 |
that's a good question |
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^7heo |
depends how you define irc |
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^7heo |
if it's "irrational repulsive cretin" |
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^7heo |
then you can just was well take the president of the USA. |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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^7heo |
s/was well/as well/ |
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GreenDimond |
Why was the offtopic section deleted???????????? |
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Fixer |
where? |
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GreenDimond |
On the forum |
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Krock |
finally |
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GreenDimond |
:-1: |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: cancer ate it |
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Fixer |
*engulfed* |
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GreenDimond |
I predict the forum is going to be spammed by all the raging users. |
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Krock |
to whoever deleted forum ID 17 - the post quality will hopefully increase now :) |
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Fixer |
GreenDimond: i don't remember much useful in that part of forum since 2011 |
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Hijiri |
might be nice to have subforums for specific non-Minetest topics |
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Calinou |
Fixer: offtopic was made in late 2012-early 2013 I think |
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Krock |
Hijiri, soon: "Pancake discussions" "Nitendo debates" "Pokémon" and "Diet tips subforum" |
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Hijiri |
lol |
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Calinou |
"Vim vs Emacs subforum" |
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Fixer |
vs ATOM |
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Krock |
vs NP++ |
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Krock |
vs mspaint's text writing functions |
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yusf[m] |
Is cme/creatures lighter than mobs_redo? |
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Hijiri |
gacha mod when |
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Elench |
What mob mod do I want? |
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Elench |
I'll just find one with kitties |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Client crashfix: load meta after digging (#5801) 9ff5302 https://git.io/vHtd6 (2017-05-23T17:54:37Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix wrong return value in get_sky Lua call since ad9fcf859ec234732583… c445a3d https://git.io/vHtbC (2017-05-23T17:59:47Z) |
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yumbox |
im trying to run a minetest server, but it cant seem to find the correct directory. |
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yumbox |
how do i specify the directory? |
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Calinou |
yumbox: directory for what? |
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Calinou |
what OS are you running the server on? |
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yumbox |
openbsd |
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yumbox |
directory for all the files |
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Calinou |
did you install a package or compile Minetest yourself? |
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yumbox |
neither |
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Calinou |
if the latter, use "sudo make install" to install it system-wide |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
ah |
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yumbox |
i downloaded the binary |
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yumbox |
i dont have root. |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
…eh, we don't provide official binaries |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
even less for OpenBSD |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
(we have official Windows binaries and that's about it) |
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yumbox |
there's a ports binary. |
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Calinou |
using BSD as a non-root is going to be a pain |
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Calinou |
with Linux you could use AppImages at least, but these are Linux-specific |
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yumbox |
i have the builtin/ client/ fonts/ games/ locale/ textures/ directories |
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yumbox |
but when i run the binary, it can't find the |
| 18:05 |
yumbox |
them* |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
run the binary either from the bin/ folder or the root Minetest folder |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
it won't work if you run it from outside of these, unless Minetest is installed system-wide |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
all games work like this really… they can't magically find their data if you run it from a weird folder |
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yumbox |
running from bin/ doesnt work |
| 18:06 |
yumbox |
neither does running from the root minetest folder |
| 18:07 |
yumbox |
it gives `WARNING[Main]: Couldn't find a locale directory!` and `ERROR[Main]: Subgame specified in default_game [minetest] is invalid.` |
| 18:08 |
yumbox |
minetest --gameid list prints nothing |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
then install subgames. |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
it seems to work if you get this error |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
just no subgames were found |
| 18:09 |
yumbox |
but it still says it cant find the locale directory |
| 18:09 |
IhrFussel |
yumbox, that is a standard error, even I get it and my server is 100% available and runs |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
well but this means you'll only have a english GUI (if a GUI is desired) |
| 18:10 |
yumbox |
yeah, i dont really need locales |
| 18:10 |
yumbox |
but it indicates that it cant find anything |
| 18:11 |
IhrFussel |
Are you trying to run the server with GUI? |
| 18:11 |
yumbox |
my subgame is in `share/minetest/games/minetest_game/` |
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IhrFussel |
yumbox, you have to run it as minetest --gameid minetest AFAIK |
| 18:12 |
yumbox |
like i said before, `minetest --gameid list` prints nothing |
| 18:13 |
IhrFussel |
Check the minetest_game folder then |
| 18:13 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe it's empty?? |
| 18:13 |
yumbox |
no, it's got everything there |
| 18:15 |
yumbox |
my minetest directory contains bin/ builtin/ client/ fonts/ games/ locale/ textures/ |
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IhrFussel |
And the minetest_game folder? |
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yumbox |
it's in games/ |
| 18:17 |
yumbox |
anyway, using `MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH=games/` I get a step further |
| 18:17 |
yumbox |
now it complains it can't find `builtin/init.lua` |
| 18:18 |
IhrFussel |
add minetest_game "games/minetest_game/ |
| 18:18 |
yumbox |
? |
| 18:18 |
IhrFussel |
`MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH=games/minetest_game` |
| 18:19 |
yumbox |
yeah, but it now complains it can't find `builtin/init.lua` |
| 18:21 |
IhrFussel |
You need to specify the whole path I think MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH=PATH/TO/MINETEST/games/minetest_game/ |
| 18:21 |
yumbox |
dude... |
| 18:21 |
yumbox |
the subgame_path works fine |
| 18:21 |
yumbox |
`minetest --gameid list` lists the subgames now |
| 18:21 |
yumbox |
it just can't find the `builtin` folder |
| 18:21 |
twoelk |
is it there? |
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yumbox |
yeah |
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yumbox |
well, not on the place it expects |
| 18:22 |
yumbox |
it expects it in /usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/ |
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yumbox |
but it is in ~/minetest/builtin./ |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
without having read the previous conversation, you might be missing -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 |
| 18:23 |
twoelk |
duplicate it and lets see what happens ;-P |
| 18:23 |
yumbox |
sfan5: i assume that's a compile parameter |
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yumbox |
twoelk: i cant. i dont have root. |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
yumbox: indeed it is |
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yumbox |
then it's useless, because im running the binary. |
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yumbox |
im gonna try chroot'ing |
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yumbox |
and that doesnt work either :( |
| 18:26 |
twoelk |
wiki.minetest.net/Help:Getting_Started yumbox, you might be interested in the table on this page (might be slightly outdated though) |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Help:Getting_Started |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
(fixed link for clickability) |
| 18:27 |
twoelk |
oops |
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yumbox |
those are all compile options |
| 18:28 |
twoelk |
it shows what is put where by which options |
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yumbox |
im using the binary |
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yumbox |
so that's all worthless to me |
| 18:31 |
twoelk |
well then it seems the only thing you can do is get another binary that suits your setup :-( |
| 18:32 |
yumbox |
that doesnt exist :( |
| 18:32 |
twoelk |
maybe run it in an emulater/container of some sort. don't know if that exists for your setup though |
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GreenDimond |
Is there a limit on how many slots you can define in a formspec? |
| 18:45 |
GreenDimond |
It wont let me go past 93.. |
| 18:46 |
twoelk |
how big is the screen minimum for that? :-O |
| 18:46 |
GreenDimond |
what? |
| 18:47 |
GreenDimond |
I need 99 slots but I can only get 93 |:I |
| 18:48 |
yumbox |
i got 99 problems, but a slot aint one |
| 18:48 |
GreenDimond |
lol |
| 18:49 |
GreenDimond |
There are 10 rows of 9 and one row of 3 >:I |
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yumbox |
bigfoot547: eh, ill just pirate minecraft instead. |
| 18:49 |
red-001 |
yumbox, can't you build minetest yourself? |
| 18:50 |
red-001 |
just compile it with -DRUN_IN_PLACE if you can't use make install |
| 18:50 |
yumbox |
red-001: no thanks, id rather not spend several days tracking down compilation bugs. |
| 18:50 |
red-001 |
you using some obscure system or something? |
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yumbox |
openbsd |
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red-001 |
oh |
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GreenDimond |
It helps if I set the chest size to 9*6 not 8*6 ):I |
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yumbox |
red-001: to be honest, compiling stuff is horrible on any system. |
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Calinou |
works well on Linux |
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Calinou |
and some software makes it easier on Windows now, like Godot, where all the required libraries are present in the Git repository |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
should be easy on macOS too, with Homebres |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
Homebrew* |
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Out`Of`Control |
always compile with run in place, works great |
| 19:00 |
ratmix |
does anyone know why minetest.register_on_placenode does not detect the placement of trees? |
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ratmix |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17666 |
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Hijiri |
ratmix: register_on_placenode is for players placing things, not placement in general |
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Hijiri |
placing generally refers to players putting things down |
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Hijiri |
or things that behave like it |
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Hijiri |
trees are generated as decorations I think? |
| 19:39 |
Hijiri |
oh |
| 19:39 |
Hijiri |
you mean players placing tree nodes |
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Hijiri |
ratmix: does your callback get called on stairs? |
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ratmix |
yes |
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ratmix |
stairs work |
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Hijiri |
I think it's a problem in minetest.rotate_node, it doesn't call the register_on_placenode callbacks |
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Hijiri |
I asked about stairs because I thought they used rotate_node, but they don't apparently |
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ratmix |
i thought it might have to do with rotation because placenode does not pass parameter2 |
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ratmix |
let me double check... |
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Hijiri |
ratmix: it could pass param2 in newnode |
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Hijiri |
there's no reason they couldn't just pass without it it though if they wanted to |
| 19:46 |
ratmix |
yep, works with stairs |
| 19:47 |
Hijiri |
It's just rotate_and_place doesn't call the placenode callbacks or use any helpers that do |
| 19:47 |
ratmix |
para2 works with setnode too, but i can't trigger anything with register_on_placenode |
| 19:49 |
ratmix |
correction, i can't trigger any function when a user places a tree. i think i've tried everything |
| 19:51 |
Hijiri |
ratmix: have you tried wrapping the tree's on_place |
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ratmix |
not sure how |
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| 20:00 |
ratmix |
how could i do that? |
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Hijiri |
I not sure it could be done nicely either anymore |
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Hijiri |
ratmix: do you need to just detect it or be able to stop it etc.? |
| 20:01 |
ratmix |
detect and remove |
| 20:02 |
Hijiri |
is this for the protection thing? |
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Hijiri |
ratmix: I'll post in thread |
| 20:03 |
ratmix |
yes, a custom protection mod for pvp arenas, where building is necessary but with only one type of block |
| 20:03 |
ratmix |
ok |
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Hijiri |
ratmix: edited my post |
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ratmix |
Hijiri: Thanks so much! I'll givr it a try |
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yumbox |
how many memory is normal for minetest to use? |
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yumbox |
it uses 8GB for me at the moment |
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red-001 |
thats not normal |
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red-001 |
client? |
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yumbox |
yea |
| 20:26 |
red-001 |
do you have an insane block unload time or something.... |
| 20:26 |
yumbox |
what option is that? |
| 20:26 |
red-001 |
minetest has a good few memory leaks but it's not that bad |
| 20:27 |
red-001 |
client_unload_unused_data_timeout |
| 20:28 |
yumbox |
should i set that to 100? |
| 20:28 |
yumbox |
anything wrong here? https://a.uguu.se/IMHhH4oAolSo.png |
| 20:29 |
red-001 |
doesn't seem so |
| 20:29 |
red-001 |
it's possible that this is a bug thats somehow related to your OS |
| 20:29 |
yumbox |
im using linux |
| 20:30 |
red-001 |
oh I though you where on openbsd? |
| 20:30 |
yumbox |
my server is |
| 20:30 |
red-001 |
ahh |
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yumbox |
i wanted to get minetest server on openbsd, but i gave up on that |
| 20:30 |
red-001 |
I though you where one of those people that run openbsd on thier desktop |
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Voltz |
anyone know how to set up a VPN on linux? |
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red-001 |
so you start the game and straigth away it uses 8gb of memory? |
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| 20:34 |
red-001 |
I don't usually see minetest use more then 1gb-1.5gb |
| 20:35 |
yumbox |
it starts with more than 8gb |
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yumbox |
it uses up almost all my 12gb |
| 20:36 |
yumbox |
then in-game it uses 8gb |
| 20:36 |
red-001 |
wait so even the main menu ueses up 8gb???? |
| 20:38 |
yumbox |
no |
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yumbox |
when i join a game it starts to use almost 12gb |
| 20:38 |
yumbox |
main menu uses 80mb |
| 20:38 |
red-001 |
oh good |
| 20:39 |
red-001 |
which server/subgame? |
| 20:39 |
yumbox |
standard |
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yumbox |
also initializing nodes takes like 10 seconds |
| 20:39 |
red-001 |
you should consider creating an issue on github since this isn't normal |
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* red-001 |
wonder is this linked to people timeing out while loading nodes/media |
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yumbox |
maybe it's because im on intel gpu |
| 20:41 |
red-001 |
oh that could be it |
| 20:41 |
red-001 |
still it seems extreme |
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yumbox |
i'll just buy some more ram |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
freshly started minetest server uses very few ram, on order of 200-300 mb |
| 20:44 |
yumbox |
200+MB is "very few memory" nowadays? damn |
| 20:44 |
Fixer |
yep |
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VanessaE |
feh. I remember when 64k was considered a lot. :) |
| 20:46 |
yumbox |
nah, i use sxiv, not feh. |
| 20:48 |
red-001 |
Fixer, aren't you think of singleplayer? I though the server only used about 50mb when first started |
| 20:48 |
Fixer |
red-001: yeah, it may be even less for server |
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yumbox |
server should use a few MB of memory, if it was properly written |
| 20:53 |
red-001 |
yeah a fresh server uses 10mb of memory |
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Fixer |
yumbox: in ponyland |
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red-001 |
I was thinking of an older server that used to have players connected |
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yumbox |
? |
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Fixer |
yumbox: today's software is so fat, skype - 150mb, firefox - 300mb easily, or 700mb with 1 tab, etc etc etc |
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yumbox |
i wasnt talking about other software |
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sfan5 |
what are you using skype for |
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yumbox |
firefox is expected to use a lot of memory. |
| 20:55 |
yumbox |
web browsers are basically operating systems nowadays. |
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Fixer |
for conversations with people, it is not my choice, i dislike skype very much |
| 20:56 |
Fixer |
sfan5: ads blocked on it, don't worry, no profit goes to them from me :} |
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yumbox |
just your private data :} |
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Fixer |
voice if only |
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ratmix |
Hijiri: I added a comment to the forum thread |
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Calinou |
I just built AppImages of Minetest client and server, if anyone wants them for testing, tell me |
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Calinou |
(tomorrow, I'm going to sleep now) |
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