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[git] juhdanad -> minetest/minetest: Add /fixlight chat command f6d1b68 https://git.io/v9UK1 (2017-04-22T00:24:41Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgflat, Mgv7: Only create noise objects if needed 57eaf62 https://git.io/v9UKM (2017-04-22T00:24:03Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Sneak glitch: Set default to false 58c083f https://git.io/v9UKD (2017-04-22T00:23:57Z) |
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[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Add on_flood() callback. cca58fe https://git.io/v9UKy (2017-04-22T00:23:51Z) |
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kaeza |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
kaeza! |
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kaeza |
<3 MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
<3 kaeza |
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kaeza |
cheapie, ^ |
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tiwake |
woo, first steps in minetest |
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benrob0329 |
tiwake: now mod the heck outa it :-) |
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tiwake |
I don't know lua... |
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tiwake |
and its been a long time since I did any programming |
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tiwake |
CNC machine programming does not count |
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benrob0329 |
Ah, that's the brilliance of using other peoples mods :P |
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tiwake |
no sprinting? |
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tiwake |
hmm |
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tiwake |
I havent seen any animals either |
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benrob0329 |
. /grant singleplayer fast |
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benrob0329 |
Then push j to enable fast mode |
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benrob0329 |
Then hold e to run |
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benrob0329 |
(I believe you can change the speed of fast, or use a sprinting mod) |
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benrob0329 |
!mod mobs_redo |
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MinetestBot |
benrob0329: Mobs Redo [mobs] by TenPlus1 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 |
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tiwake |
woah thats fast |
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benrob0329 |
!mod sprint |
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MinetestBot |
benrob0329: Sprint [sprint] by GunshipPenguin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9650 |
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tiwake |
if I go fast and off a cliff, I just skip along the ground, right? |
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benrob0329 |
potentially |
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benrob0329 |
Also, what version are you running? |
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tiwake |
using the PPA |
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benrob0329 |
Good |
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tiwake |
0.4.15 |
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tiwake |
how do you crouch/swim down |
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benrob0329 |
Shift |
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tiwake |
woah |
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tiwake |
sprint out of the water launches like an ICBM from a submarine |
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tiwake |
hmm |
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tiwake |
benrob0329: does the server dictate what mods are being run? |
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benrob0329 |
tiwake: client mods are available in dev version, but are still in dev |
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tiwake |
oh ok |
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XtremeHacker |
Hi swift110 |
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tiwake |
so all mods are server side, instead of client side |
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benrob0329 |
erm, client mods are in current git, but are still being developed |
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benrob0329 |
Yes |
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tiwake |
thats good |
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swift110 |
hey XtremeHacker |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgflat, Mgv7: Fix noise crash on world exit. 4c03190 https://git.io/v9USM (2017-04-22T04:37:33Z) |
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mbb |
hi serveradmins is there a player named "taem" on one of your servers? |
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mbb |
hiserveradmins is there a player named "taem" on one of your servers? |
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kaeza |
please don't repeat yourself |
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kaeza |
and I don't think I've ever seen that name around |
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Krock |
kaeza, I think that's similar to SELECT answer FROM minetest_players WHERE status = "server owner" |
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Krock |
not meant to be a username |
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kaeza |
uh, what? |
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Krock |
"hiserveradmins" is supposed to be a range-select for all server admins |
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kaeza |
oh :P |
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mbb |
or @ serverplayer |
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sfan5 |
mbb: if you look at servers.minetest.net you can see that currently (2 hrs after you asked) such a player is not online |
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mbb |
ok |
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DS-minetest |
hi MinetestBot |
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Hello DS-minetest! |
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riff-IRC |
hi MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
sup riff-IRC |
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riff-IRC |
nm |
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rdococ |
munh |
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riff-IRC |
hunh |
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juhdanad |
What language is that? |
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rdococ |
yumh |
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Krock |
The four letters of black |
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Krock |
hi Jordach |
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rdococ |
hi Krock |
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rdococ |
Krockodile :P |
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Krock |
hello cocodr |
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rdococ |
hi kcork |
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juhdanad |
VanessaE: are you there? |
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rdococ |
probably not :P |
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juhdanad |
I'm working on automatic item colorization, but I don't know how should it work in creative mode. |
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juhdanad |
If you punch a red carpet, and then a blue carpet, should you get both of them? |
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Krock |
what do you mean? getting both at two different items into the inventory, juhdanad ? |
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Krock |
*as two |
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juhdanad |
Yes, as two items. |
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Krock |
that would be nice, yes |
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Krock |
so they could also be used in different recipes |
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Krock |
(in the future) |
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juhdanad |
Then I'll try to do so. |
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[git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: Network:Remove old opcodes and fix documentation. (#5573) 0c34fe2 https://git.io/v9TeE (2017-04-22T11:59:02Z) |
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DS-minetest |
!tell nerzhul please not sign commits, it is breaking the ppas. |
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MinetestBot |
DS-minetest: I'll pass that on when nerzhul is around |
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Tre |
hi DS |
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DS-minetest |
hi Tre |
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rubenwardy |
he's online |
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rubenwardy |
#minetest-dev |
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Tre |
who is ruben? |
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rubenwardy |
<DS-minetest> !tell nerzhul please not sign commits, it is breaking the ppas. |
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DS-minetest |
i cayn't find him on #minetest-dev |
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rubenwardy |
he's op'd, so it at the top of the list |
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DS-minetest |
ahhh |
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tiwake |
(lol) |
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DS-minetest |
bigfoot547 told me to do that. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17212&view=unread#p265134 |
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rubenwardy |
what OS version do you have? |
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DS-minetest |
lubuntu |
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rubenwardy |
I meant version, not distro |
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rubenwardy |
found it in the topic 16.04 Xenial |
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DS-minetest |
i have xenial |
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rubenwardy |
the launch pad says that 16.04 is up to date - what does apt-cache show minetest give? |
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DS-minetest |
Version: 201704130816-0~5452~ubuntu16.04.1 |
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DS-minetest |
(i don't update anymore since the newer minetest_game is causing crashes already) |
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rubenwardy |
I see |
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rubenwardy |
Version: 201704210116-0~5452~ubuntu16.10.1 |
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rubenwardy |
according to https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 16.04 should see 2017-04-21 too |
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DS-minetest |
(i don't update anymore since the newer minetest_game is causing crashes already) |
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rubenwardy |
is the problem that the version is still 2017-04-21, but it doesn't have commits? |
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DS-minetest |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
apt-cache shows available versions |
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DS-minetest |
only minetest_game comits |
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is there something like minetest.line_of_sight for objects? |
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micheal65536 |
hi i'm rewriting a mod that adds mobs to the game and there's something i don't understand about ABMs |
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micheal65536 |
the mobs are spawned using ABMs |
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Tre |
hi Wuzzy |
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micheal65536 |
currently the mod contains a line 'stop_abm_flood()' with comment 'prevent abm-"feature"' |
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Krock |
and ABMs are called from the core with the specified interval/chance |
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micheal65536 |
what this function seems to do is wait 0.5 seconds before allowing mobs to spawn again |
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micheal65536 |
however the abm intervals are all in the range of tens of seconds to a few minutes (the time between spawning rounds) |
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micheal65536 |
what could the purpose of this line be? |
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sfan5 |
interval doesn't mean that the abms couldn't happen all at once |
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Krock |
the abm is executed on each node |
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micheal65536 |
i also don't get how the abm catch-up thing works, and i'm wondering if this line has something to do with that (because catch-up isn't disable even though it hink it should be) |
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Krock |
thus, they sum up depending on how many nodes with the specified type there are |
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micheal65536 |
i realise the abm executes on all the nodes at the same time |
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micheal65536 |
that's why there's the 'chance' parameter, which the mod currently sets to around 10000 |
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micheal65536 |
so my understanding is that the chance parameter will stop the abm from spawning a mob on every single node |
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micheal65536 |
my understanding is that with a chance of 10000, only 2.604166667 mobs will be spawned in each 64-by-64 area in each abm tick (where the frequency of the ticks is dictated by the interval parameter) |
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micheal65536 |
so what is this abm "flood" that is being referred to? does it have something to do with catch-up? |
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rubenwardy |
catch means that an abm will be ran more often than `interval` when the block is loaded |
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micheal65536 |
why would that be wanted? |
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rubenwardy |
grass growing |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
smelting ores in the furnace |
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micheal65536 |
is there any other situation where abms may run more often than the interval setting |
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micheal65536 |
Krock: my ores don't smelt when the block is unloaded |
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micheal65536 |
Krock: also i think smelting doesn't use abm |
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Krock |
depends on the mod. default furnace uses node timers AFAIK |
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Krock |
if it was made with ABMs, the catch-up will try to make it look like it smelted while the block was unloaded |
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Krock |
like described in the lua api file |
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micheal65536 |
so basically catch-up tries to say "if abm was supposed to run every minute, and the block's been unloaded for five minutes, then call the abm five times when the block is loaded again"? |
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micheal65536 |
and setting abm_definition_table.catch_up to true is enough to disable this? |
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micheal65536 |
what about the comment "thus if chance is 1 and interval is 1, disabling this does nothing if omitted, it is set to true" on the wiki? |
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Krock |
no, set it to "false" to disable it |
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micheal65536 |
what about the "thus if chance is 1 and interval is 1" part? |
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Krock |
from interpreting that sentence, it will reduce the interval and chance to 1 when doing the catch-up function, thus it won't take an effect on ABMs that start with these params |
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micheal65536 |
oh, i see, that could be it |
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micheal65536 |
so to summarise, ABMs will be called after every "interval" seconds with a probability of "chance" |
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micheal65536 |
and never called any other times if "catch_up" is set to false |
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micheal65536 |
meaning that setting catch_up to false is sufficient to disable the "abm flood" referred to in the comment in the code that i'm rewriting, and there should be no need to implement a timeout oneself between successive abm calls? |
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Krock |
not sure |
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Krock |
but disabling catch-up definitely reduces some flood |
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calculon |
not sure, but i suspect abms are not called multiple times to catch-up, but only with greater chances |
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calculon |
that would explain why it has no effect if chance=1 |
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micheal65536 |
MinetestBot: help |
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micheal65536 |
MinetestBot: /help |
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micheal65536 |
MinetestBot: hi |
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micheal65536 |
silly bot |
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micheal65536 |
!MinetestBot |
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micheal65536 |
!help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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lmaos |
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Krock |
- |
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DS-minetest |
* |
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cx384 |
/ |
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DS-minetest |
yey, the daily ppa works again :D |
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benrob0329 |
Just use arch, no ppas tp worry about :D |
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Krock |
just use windows, enough other problems to worry about :D |
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Out`Of`Control |
lava does not hurt anyone, what could trigger that? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Ok its client bug |
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Out`Of`Control |
only dev builds has no damage in lava |
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Out`Of`Control |
recent dev build clients get no damage from lava |
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DS-minetest |
Out`Of`Control: i get damage from lava in singleplayer with (daily ppa, that is now again) latest dev |
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Out`Of`Control |
DS-minetest: but not on my server |
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Out`Of`Control |
on stable client you get damage dev not |
| 17:05 |
DS-minetest |
Out`Of`Control: which is your server, which version does it have? |
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Out`Of`Control |
liberty land |
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Out`Of`Control |
0.4.15-dev |
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sfan5 |
!server liberty |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Liberty Land | mt.rbose.org | Clients: 13/50, 16/28 | Version: 0.4.15-dev / Liberty Land | Ping: 12ms |
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Out`Of`Control |
its from 31 march |
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DS-minetest |
that's over a month ago |
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sfan5 |
note that incompatibilites between dev versions can happen |
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Out`Of`Control |
DS-minetest: i can run recent builds they crash |
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sfan5 |
it's really best to run stable |
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DS-minetest |
ok, not a month* |
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Out`Of`Control |
i can not |
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sfan5 |
if you absolutely want/need -dev then always run latest |
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Out`Of`Control |
i do latest working |
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benrob0329 |
Latest works for me |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: src/server.cpp:72: virtual void* ServerThread::run(): A fatal error occured: String too long for serializeString |
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Out`Of`Control |
thats all i see in logs |
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sfan5 |
that happens when? |
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Out`Of`Control |
with new builds. I guess its mapgen not sure |
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sfan5 |
it's definitely not mapgen |
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Out`Of`Control |
An unhandled exception occurred: String too long for serializeString |
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sfan5 |
with which build did that start to happen |
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Out`Of`Control |
that build was from 19 apr |
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sfan5 |
do you have the commit id? |
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sfan5 |
also what is the last build that does NOT have the error? |
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Out`Of`Control |
i try today recent build |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: i know time when i clone that build Apr 19 17:47 |
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sfan5 |
that's good enough |
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sfan5 |
<sfan5> also what is the last build that does NOT have the error? |
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sfan5 |
^ would be helpful |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: 31 march works fine |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: but i did not build any between that gap |
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sfan5 |
ugh that's quite many |
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sfan5 |
any chance you could do a bisect? |
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Out`Of`Control |
how ? |
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sfan5 |
https://www.google.com/search?q=git+bisect+tutorial |
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sfan5 |
hm there were some constref changes |
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sfan5 |
but a bisect would be immensely helpful |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: i try test it localy let you know |
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Out`Of`Control |
will take some time |
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Out`Of`Control |
with bisect |
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sfan5 |
sure |
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Telesight |
Hello all; the command /spawnentity is not executed if a player is not online, how to detour this? |
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riff-IRC |
I'm back! |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: i could not trigger crash. Problem is i don't know what cause it |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: compiled today build, works fine for now |
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Out`Of`Control |
i see lots of ERROR[Server]: Got packet command: 65 for peer id 4 but client isn't active yet. Dropping packet |
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Out`Of`Control |
something new? |
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sfan5 |
uhh wat |
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sfan5 |
doesn't look new to me |
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Out`Of`Control |
it was not there at 19apr build |
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Out`Of`Control |
? |
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Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: first time i see that in logs |
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Out`Of`Control |
atleast now lava damage anyone |
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Telesight |
Ok I found the solution in chatcommands.lua ... |
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* DS-minetest |
also has the error msgs that Out`Of`Control described now |
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riff-IRC |
Hey LazyJ |
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LazyJ |
Howdy riff ;) |
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riff-IRC |
How is the server? |
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LazyJ |
Doing fine. |
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riff-IRC |
Nice |
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riff-IRC |
What MT version? |
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LazyJ |
04.14-dev |
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LazyJ |
Will upgrade after June's release. |
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LazyJ |
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riff-IRC |
Nice |
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VanessaE |
~tell juhdanad I planned on handling itemstack colorization in unified dyes. a regular dig action ought to return the node as you see it in the world, shift-dig ought to return the neutral-colored node + dye. not yet implemented. |
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ShadowBot |
VanessaE: O.K. |
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DS-minetest |
~help |
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ShadowBot |
DS-minetest: help [<plugin>] [<command>] |
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GreenDimond |
Where should I post CSM requests/ideas? On the modding discussion request topic or the CSM one? I would do CSM but rubenwardy said something about not to? |
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sfan5 |
for the api itself? |
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GreenDimond |
For CSM mods |
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red-NaN |
It doesn't really matter |
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GreenDimond |
*i would post in CSM but [blablabla] |
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sfan5 |
for the mods, some forum topic |
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GreenDimond |
soooo just put it here? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=2434 |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Post your mod requests/ideas here - Minetest Forums |
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sfan5 |
if there is a csm specific topic use that |
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sfan5 |
otherwise yes that one |
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red-NaN |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17216 |
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red-NaN |
!title |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
red-NaN: Client mod requests / ideas - Minetest Forums |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Client mod requests / ideas - Minetest Forums |
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GreenDimond |
"There's no reason for this to be a separate thread - what happens if your idea is both client and server side? |
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GreenDimond |
People that post ideas don't tend to care or know how it should be implemented" -Rubenwardy @ Client mod requests / ideas |
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sfan5 |
just post it there |
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sfan5 |
why do you care so much about what he said |
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GreenDimond |
I dunno :P |
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GreenDimond |
there's my request: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17216&p=265204#p265204 :P |
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red-NaN |
thats not really a mod thing |
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GreenDimond |
But it could be a CSM mod thing because it's client-side... |
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PureTryOut[m] |
so now client-side mods are a thing, will the built-in minimap finally be moved to a mod? |
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VanessaE |
PureTryOut[m]: no but it can be made controllable from a mod at least. |
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VanessaE |
the minimap has to be in-engine to perform well enough, but managing it from Lua is viable. |
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PureTryOut[m] |
really? why wouldn't it perform well from Lua? |
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PureTryOut[m] |
even with LuaJIT? |
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VanessaE |
because Lua is an interpreted scripting language |
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VanessaE |
and even LuaJIT can't match the speed of pure C++ |
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PureTryOut[m] |
sure but isn't it enough for a minimap? |
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VanessaE |
no |
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VanessaE |
Lua <-> C++ also incurs an unavoidable performance penalty |
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PureTryOut[m] |
and some kind of C++ plugins would be nice to have then, if performance does actually limit the stuff you can do |
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VanessaE |
so all of those get_node() or vmanip calls, if they were to exist, would still be very slow |
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VanessaE |
C++ plugins will likely never happen |
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PureTryOut[m] |
why not? |
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VanessaE |
because that would require some kind of just-in-time compiler for the client |
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VanessaE |
you can be sure that core devs won't want client users to have to compile their mods. |
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PureTryOut[m] |
well true... |
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PureTryOut[m] |
I don't know but it seems limiting if you can't make a minimap entirely in Lua |
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VanessaE |
it's not that you couldn't. |
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PureTryOut[m] |
a minimap is just an example, there is probably more stuff that can't be done otherwise |
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VanessaE |
it would just be slow |
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VanessaE |
besides, why do you need this? |
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PureTryOut[m] |
I don't need it, but I like the mods to be able to control everything, and something like a minimap is a big part of that |
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VanessaE |
you can turn the minimap off in a mod, or that'll be the plan anyway |
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VanessaE |
or change its shape, probably change whether radar mode or overview mode are available. |
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VanessaE |
I wouldn't be surprised if you could also restrict the zoom level |
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PureTryOut[m] |
again, the minimap is just an example. I'm just dissapointed by the slowness of Lua |
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VanessaE |
it can't be helped really |
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PureTryOut[m] |
I guess |
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VanessaE |
the only viable solution would be for minetest to bundle luajit with it (always compiled for gc64), and to improve in every way possible, the performance of Lua <-> C++ switches. |
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juhdanad |
I don't think Lua is slow. |
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juhdanad |
At least, many mods work well now. |
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benrob0329 |
Its slow compared to a compiled language yes |
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VanessaE |
hm *pokes ShadowBot* |
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VanessaE |
[04-22 14:53] <VanessaE> ~tell juhdanad I planned on handling itemstack colorization in unified dyes. a regular dig action ought to return the node as you see it in the world, shift-dig ought to return the neutral-colored node + dye. not yet implemented. |
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benrob0329 |
But when it comes to scripting languages, Lua/JIT is about as fast as they get |
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VanessaE |
Lua today is really about the same as BASIC was back in the old days - we had BASIC compilers, and they made such programs quite fast compared to the interpreter, but they were still nowhere near as fast as custom-coded assembly or even compiled C. |
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juhdanad |
VanessaE: does my new PR help to you? |
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VanessaE |
I have not seen it? |
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benrob0329 |
Only with Javascript and possibly Cython to rival it. |
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juhdanad |
Or should I change it? |
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VanessaE |
benrob0329: you weren't here when lamefun was trolling :P |
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VanessaE |
juhdanad: I have not seen the PR yet? |
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juhdanad |
#5640 |
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juhdanad |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5640 |
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VanessaE |
got it. |
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VanessaE |
I like that. didn't know it wasn't already implemented. |
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juhdanad |
I'm happy then! |
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VanessaE |
just don't break unified dyes ;) |
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VanessaE |
damn it |
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M6HZ |
Hello, have you ever tried minetest on wayland ? |
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red-NaN |
irrlicht doesn't support wayland iirc |
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M6HZ |
red-NaN, but there is Xwayland |
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paramat |
ircSparky use a mod with a line 'minetest.clear_registered_biomes()' |
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Fixer |
it should work on xwayland for sure |
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ircSparky |
ok |
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paramat |
let me know if you have problems |
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M6HZ |
Fixer, I have tried tonight and there are a lot of issues |
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M6HZ |
Fixer, at least for me |
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ircSparky |
this is to not mapgen any dirt? dosnt seem to work for that |
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paramat |
it removes all biome surface material, only stone left |
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Fixer |
M6HZ: looking with mouse should work, at least on nonnecro distros |
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paramat |
you want to only remove dirt? and leave other surface nodes (sand etc) |
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ircSparky |
i just want the underground substances like stone, ores, gravel |
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ircSparky |
is this for v7 mapgen? |
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paramat |
yes mgv7 |
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paramat |
did you enable the mod in config? |
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ircSparky |
its part of a gamemode |
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red-NaN |
M6HZ, should work on that |
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paramat |
mod should depend on default |
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red-NaN |
but yeah minetest has no native wayland support |
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ircSparky |
ok great thanks! |
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ircSparky |
paramat++ |
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M6HZ |
Fixer, red-NaN, I was unable to start the game, the cursor wasnt drawn on the window, and after have loading the map, it frozen when I clicked on: Play |
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ircSparky |
i forget is that works :P |
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red-NaN |
report it to the xwayland devs? |
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red-NaN |
it's suppose to simulate an xserver right? |
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Fixer |
M6HZ: what minetest version? |
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M6HZ |
Fixer, version 0.4.15-1 |
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red-NaN |
could you try and build latest dev? |
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red-NaN |
should be pretty easy on any major distro |
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Fixer |
M6HZ: what distro? |
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M6HZ |
red-NaN, if it is really useful, I can try |
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M6HZ |
Fixer, I'm on archlinux |
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red-NaN |
then just clone, cmake and make |
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red-NaN |
iirc |
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M6HZ |
Fixer, 4.9.23-1-lts |
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red-NaN |
you might need to install some extra libs that you don't need to just run mt |
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Fixer |
M6HZ: please file an issue here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hi |
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Out`Of`Control |
any working mod with banana trees? |
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Out`Of`Control |
anyone know of an |
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benrob0329 |
!mod moretrees |
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MinetestBot |
benrob0329: More Trees! [moretrees] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4394 |
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Out`Of`Control |
there is one in moretrees? |
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benrob0329 |
I think, VanessaE? |
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VanessaE |
farming plus |
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kaeza |
!mod food |
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MinetestBot |
kaeza: Food [food][food_basic] by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2960 |
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VanessaE |
!mod farming_redo |
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MinetestBot |
VanessaE: Farming Redo [farming] by TenPlus1 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9019 |
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VanessaE |
!mod farming_plus |
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kaeza |
fp too |
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Out`Of`Control |
i have farming plus, with recent update no leaves are droped |
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Out`Of`Control |
thanks |
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