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| 00:00 |
Wuzzy |
otherwise, they fucked up being authoritaritan xD |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: it has, look Russia, China etc |
| 00:00 |
Wuzzy |
well that just proofs they can learn a lot from North Korea :) |
| 00:00 |
GreenDimond |
Fixer wrote: "GreenDimond: done https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable " |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: just recently rusnacionalist who posted a blogpost about russians bombing assad opposition (but not ISIL much) got 2 years in prison |
| 00:00 |
GreenDimond |
oh. |
| 00:00 |
GreenDimond |
DUH. |
| 00:01 |
GreenDimond |
i forgot to run sudo apt-get update xD |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: or.. guy who reposted some picture about Ukraine resistence get sentenced for year or more |
| 00:01 |
GreenDimond |
offtopic forum still not cleared... |
| 00:02 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: it is happened, free speech is been destroyed in East Europe/Asia (China already destroyed it I think) |
| 00:02 |
Fixer |
everyone wants control |
| 00:02 |
emunand |
i see a lot of chinese people over ZeroNet |
| 00:02 |
Wuzzy |
true story |
| 00:02 |
emunand |
also just found out about zerotube |
| 00:02 |
emunand |
or zeronet youtube |
| 00:02 |
GreenDimond |
upgrading minetest.... |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
lots of fear of people, after african revolutions, authoritarian regimes pay much more attention to internet |
| 00:03 |
GreenDimond |
YAY. |
| 00:03 |
emunand |
havent seen the update yet |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
also, lots of propaganda from russian/chinese paid trolls |
| 00:03 |
emunand |
GreenDimond: where is it? |
| 00:03 |
Wuzzy |
lots of propaganda from basically all countries? :P |
| 00:03 |
GreenDimond |
run sudo apt-get update |
| 00:03 |
GreenDimond |
then run |
| 00:03 |
GreenDimond |
sudo apt-get upgrade minetest |
| 00:04 |
Wuzzy |
propaganda is normal politics :D |
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| 00:16 |
Wuzzy |
interesting. i didnt know that bots are "he's" in English. you learn something new every day. |
| 00:16 |
GreenDimond |
better idea.... |
| 00:16 |
GreenDimond |
maybe it will work |
| 00:16 |
emunand |
it |
| 00:17 |
GreenDimond |
uninstalling and reinstalling |
| 00:19 |
GreenDimond |
why the heck does it take 5 seconds to install?! |
| 00:19 |
GreenDimond |
that should not happen! |
| 00:19 |
Wuzzy |
maybe u jsut installed it from cache |
| 00:20 |
Wuzzy |
GreenDimond: have you already looked for similar-named minetest packages? |
| 00:20 |
GreenDimond |
How was I able to do it before?!?!?! |
| 00:20 |
Wuzzy |
idk |
| 00:21 |
GreenDimond |
when I got 0.4.14 all i did was ad the repo update and install! |
| 00:21 |
GreenDimond |
*add |
| 00:21 |
Wuzzy |
according to pkgs.org there are 3 packages: minetest, minetest-data and minetest-server |
| 00:21 |
GreenDimond |
ik it installed all of them |
| 00:21 |
GreenDimond |
but not this time |
| 00:21 |
Wuzzy |
installed AND updated? |
| 00:21 |
GreenDimond |
by using the repo it installs latest |
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GreenDimond |
how do i completely remove something?????? |
| 00:24 |
Wuzzy |
with a hammer |
| 00:24 |
Wuzzy |
or wipe |
| 00:24 |
GreenDimond |
remove a PROGRAM. |
| 00:25 |
Wuzzy |
wipe removes everything securely |
| 00:25 |
Wuzzy |
but i dont know which os ur using, so sorry |
| 00:25 |
GreenDimond |
xubuntu. |
| 00:25 |
Wuzzy |
apt-get omgidontknowthecommand |
| 00:26 |
GreenDimond |
why is .minetest still there?! |
| 00:26 |
Wuzzy |
because this is your user data |
| 00:26 |
GreenDimond |
what the heck? |
| 00:26 |
Wuzzy |
package managers dont touch those and should not touch them |
| 00:26 |
GreenDimond |
oh yeah :P |
| 00:27 |
Wuzzy |
well, would you really want to lose all worlds after uninstalling minetest? |
| 00:27 |
Wuzzy |
because thats where your worlds are |
| 00:27 |
GreenDimond |
i copied the data to a different folder |
| 00:27 |
GreenDimond |
lemme check the usr/share/ |
| 00:27 |
GreenDimond |
its not there.... |
| 00:27 |
GreenDimond |
so why is it giving me the wrong one?! |
| 00:28 |
GreenDimond |
LOL |
| 00:28 |
GreenDimond |
of course. |
| 00:28 |
GreenDimond |
minetestc55 not minetest. |
| 00:29 |
GreenDimond |
nope. nvm. wrong post. |
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GreenDimond |
D': |
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Fixer |
Water reflow! \o/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0SK8O1WgAEVTwg.jpg |
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GreenDimond |
! |
| 00:47 |
GreenDimond |
WHAT?! |
| 00:48 |
Fixer |
GreenDimond: 0.4.15 has fixed water reflow, that means there should be no stuck water in 99.99999% cases |
| 00:48 |
Fixer |
liquids flow |
| 00:48 |
Fixer |
and thats good |
| 00:48 |
GreenDimond |
well i cant get 0.4.15 D: |
| 00:48 |
GreenDimond |
and thats bad |
| 00:49 |
Fixer |
try harder, meanwhile - good night |
| 00:49 |
GreenDimond |
night :( |
| 00:49 |
Fixer |
GreenDimond: make sure you are installing never version from PPA |
| 00:49 |
GreenDimond |
i am :( |
| 00:49 |
GreenDimond |
its not working |
| 00:50 |
Fixer |
make sure you are using correct ppa |
| 00:50 |
Fixer |
and updating from correct ppa |
| 00:50 |
Fixer |
etc |
| 00:50 |
GreenDimond |
that too :( |
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jordan4ibanez |
#minetest-dev |
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jordan4ibanez |
Oops :P |
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GreenDimond |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16218 |
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GreenDimond |
help D: |
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GreenDimond |
hi rdococ. |
| 01:15 |
Wuzzy |
I just updated <http://wiki.minetest.net/Smelting> for you. :-) |
| 01:15 |
Wuzzy |
Minetest Game has LOADs of new fuels for you to burn |
| 01:16 |
GreenDimond |
:( |
| 01:16 |
Wuzzy |
i thought it might interest you which items can now be burned |
| 01:16 |
Wuzzy |
why ":("? |
| 01:16 |
GreenDimond |
doesnt matter for me since I cant get the new game. New fuels are useless atm. |
| 01:18 |
Wuzzy |
oh and before someone thinks i actually wrote all the fuel times in by hand: NOPE. I mostly generated this table with a script :-) (see discussion page) |
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freelikegnu |
new fuels? |
| 01:30 |
freelikegnu |
poor nyan cats... |
| 01:31 |
freelikegnu |
burning books should cause something awful to happen |
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XeonSquared |
ignite the whole area |
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garywhite |
octacian: You want me to run an update build of the server OS? Tomorrow morning is gonna be my last chance till possibly after the new year |
| 02:03 |
whitephoenix0 |
So did everyone just decide to quit testjam? |
| 02:03 |
garywhite |
idk whitephoenix0 |
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jordan4ibanez |
freelikegnu: I love your sheep model! |
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jordan4ibanez |
It's funny to watch them jive around the world, haha |
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jordan4ibanez |
https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/open_ai/issues/1 I think this is a minetest.conf thing though |
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garywhite |
Guys if I were to make a server OS build with SUSE Studio for running MT servers, what should I include? |
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jordan4ibanez |
garywhite: Mumble |
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OldCoder |
garywhite, Hi; server OS build? |
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whitephoenix0 |
garywhite, alpine linux + minetest and mumble deps |
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whitephoenix0 |
keep the iso size small, suse studio will install all kinds of extra junk |
| 03:11 |
freelikegnu |
jordan4ibanez: glad you like it :D |
| 03:12 |
freelikegnu |
jordan4ibanez: oh I did not make a collision box for it :o |
| 03:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Dont' worry I made one |
| 03:13 |
freelikegnu |
I'll make some grazing anims for ti too |
| 03:14 |
freelikegnu |
is it possible to sue the jump anim? |
| 03:14 |
freelikegnu |
use |
| 03:15 |
freelikegnu |
also to shear the sheep you only need to swapt the texture (wool) becomes alpha |
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freelikegnu |
I wonder why mobs were oriented to Y? |
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octacian |
garywhite: sure, go ahead. I'll test it tomorrow. |
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freelikegnu |
ugh... jordan4ibanez dont bother with that last PR, I have to fix some bones :P |
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jordan4ibanez |
I already commited it! |
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jordan4ibanez |
freelikegnu: Could you make a fish? |
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fireglow |
gz on the release! |
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blerttt |
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Amaz |
Just released Lord of the Test v1.1.0 :) https://github.com/minetest-LOTR/Lord-of-the-Test/releases/tag/v1.1.0 |
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freelikegnu |
nice |
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est31 |
cool! |
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willvarfar |
I recently added ppa:minetestdevs/stable to my kids xubuntu laptops and upgraded minetest to 4.14. (I see there has been a release just today! I upgraded yesterday.) The menu doesn't show any mods, although the mods already in their existing worlds still work. |
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willvarfar |
Previously, when they had 4.11 IIRC, there was a button for an online mod store but it didn't seem to do anything. |
| 17:38 |
willvarfar |
Now there is no obvious button to do anything. |
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willvarfar |
is there a mod store? And, importantly, are there mine carts now? :) |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
the mod store was removed because it was horribly broken |
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sfan5 |
minetest_game now includes carts by default |
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sfan5 |
(in 0.4.15) |
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willvarfar |
still lots of mods? |
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whitephoenix |
all of the mods are still around |
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willvarfar |
how should they be installed? |
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whitephoenix |
I download them from the forum or git clone them, but I think theres mod managers |
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willvarfar |
are there release notes for 4.15? Can't spot any on the website |
| 17:45 |
willvarfar |
going from 4.11 (is that the last one packaged by debian? sad) to 4.14 was absolutely gorgeous |
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whitephoenix |
I don't think so, its kinda messy but you could look through commits since 4.14 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/compare/0.4.14...master |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
willvarfar: no release notes yet |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
but here are the changes you likely care about https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=243697#p243697 |
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willvarfar |
hurrah that looks like awesome :) |
| 17:54 |
willvarfar |
thx all for working on minetest |
| 17:55 |
willvarfar |
installing mods manually seems a bit daunting, shame there's not a mod manager |
| 17:55 |
willvarfar |
my kids really love minetest and build massive worlds together in creative mode |
| 17:55 |
willvarfar |
will go upgrade :) |
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AlexINF |
Hey all! |
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AlexINF |
I just wanted to thank you all for making the 0,0,0 bug disappear! |
| 18:32 |
AlexINF |
You guys rock! |
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IhrFussel |
New possible bug: Player connects, everything loads fine but when they join they only see a gray background...reconnecting doesn't solve it, deleting cache folder doesn't solve it, changing MT client version doesn't help either...It seems to be a problem with the server version (0.4.14-dev Dec 18) cause it happened to me too (0.4.14 Android), the other player uses a PC (0.4.15 and 0.4.14) |
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IhrFussel |
Only a server restart solves that bug |
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IhrFussel |
I'm posting here first cause maybe someone already discussed that bug with you guys |
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GreenDimond |
0.4.14? |
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GreenDimond |
thats outdated D: |
| 20:10 |
GreenDimond |
and daily is unstable |
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IhrFussel |
GreenDimond, my Android version is 0.4.14...there was no update for the Play Store yet AFAIK ... my server uses almost the latest dev but the client version seems to not matter cause it happens on PC and phone, on 0.4.14 and 0.4.15 |
| 20:12 |
GreenDimond |
0.4.15 for android will be out soon |
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GreenDimond |
as for your bug, im not a code person. dunno wat to do :P |
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GreenDimond |
srry |
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IhrFussel |
It's definitely server-side since a restart fixes everything |
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garywhite |
What's wrong IhrFussel? |
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IhrFussel |
garywhite, read above |
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garywhite |
Hmm...Use the PC client to reproduce the bug and press F5. Then tell me what the coords are |
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Shara |
IhrFussel: Checked coords on join? It sounds like the 0,0,0 bug to me. |
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GreenDimond |
0,0,0 was fixed in 0.4.15 right? |
| 20:21 |
Shara |
Should be. |
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Shara |
But needs server update. Which client you use won't matter. |
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IhrFussel |
Shara, yes 0,-0.5,0 is the position but new is that the player sees only gray...AFAIK the older bug is "player sees the map but can't move" |
| 20:22 |
Shara |
IhrFussel: From my experience, it's grey for a time, then moves to normal colour. |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
But difficult for me to judge, as even at its worse I don't ever get the bug for more than a second myself. |
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IhrFussel |
Shara, it's been over 20 minutes now...also my server is on the (almost) newest version like I said I compiled it Dec 18 from github |
| 20:24 |
Shara |
Some players used to tell me they had these kinds of wait times as well. |
| 20:24 |
Shara |
Will see if I can connect there though. Curious now |
| 20:24 |
GreenDimond |
i have never had grey on redcat. |
| 20:24 |
GreenDimond |
have had on other servers long time ago tho |
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IhrFussel |
It won't happen to all players..it's random it happened to me yesterday on Android, now it's happening to a player with PC |
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Shara |
Grey on RC was normal for me. For about a half second. |
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Shara |
IhrFussel: Straight in with no grey |
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IhrFussel |
Cause it only happens sometimes |
| 20:26 |
Shara |
Don't know what else it could be other than same 0,0,0 bug |
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IhrFussel |
Shara, now he says it works again without restart |
| 20:27 |
Shara |
No idea then :) |
| 20:27 |
IhrFussel |
He says he reconnectet 10 times and it suddenly loaded again |
| 20:28 |
Shara |
With any luck new version fixes it for you anyway. |
| 20:29 |
IhrFussel |
I doubt it unless it was fixed in the last 5 days |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
GreenDimond: right |
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Fixer |
alsk |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
also |
| 20:31 |
GreenDimond |
right? |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
if you have 0 0 0 bug on 0.4.15 - UPDATE your mods |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
mods also got fixes for 0 0 0 |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
default, bags, unified inventory, armor |
| 20:32 |
GreenDimond |
bags? |
| 20:32 |
GreenDimond |
oh that was merged? |
| 20:32 |
Shara |
Bug was related to inventories. |
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IhrFussel |
Mods can cause SUCH major bugs in the engine? Not sure how I should feel about that |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: some mods created lots of detached inventories, every player on join downloaded them ALL causing the 0 0 0 bug, now it is fixed in game and main mods, you download only your inventories |
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sfan5 |
IhrFussel: you need to update both the engine and your mods to fix the 0,0,0 bugf |
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GreenDimond |
Something random: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsU3B0W3TMs |
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Krock |
o/ MT 0.4.15! |
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agaran |
whereee? |
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Krock |
agaran, hereeee |
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Fixer |
\\\\o |
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Fixer |
Krock: you are slow |
| 21:35 |
Krock |
Fixer, yesteday I left a hour before it was released |
| 21:35 |
GreenDimond |
Its been out since noon (pacific standard) yesterday :P |
| 21:35 |
Krock |
and was busy today |
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* cheapie |
is making some progress on connecting luacontrollers to the internet |
| 21:44 |
cheapie |
(in a reasonably non-abusable way, too) |
| 21:44 |
cheapie |
And by "progress", I mean "I pretty much just need to make some textures now". |
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cheapie |
As a proof-of-concept, I do have the "modem" working with a 9-line LuaC program to automatically download and install the latest version of my LTC-4000 traffic light controller firmware on the LuaC (using the new program() function that I've opened a PR for). |
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cheapie |
I have to head to work now, but the "modem" will likely be finished later tonight or tomorrow. |
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cheapie: this will be part of mesecons mod? |
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