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octacian |
garywhite: great! I'm finally back too btw... |
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garywhite |
You can go ahead and use the form to get access, I'm gonna change the IRC name question to required for the channel |
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octacian_ |
garywhite: re your PM (I'm too lazy to respond via forum): :rotfl: |
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garywhite |
My PM where? |
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octacian_ |
on forum. |
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garywhite |
ok |
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garywhite |
Um octacian_ there's no PM there |
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octacian_ |
garywhite: the message you sent me with the subject "About the MTAA: |
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octacian_ |
* ..AA" |
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garywhite |
Right, there's no PM there |
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garywhite |
Wait, just came throughh |
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octacian |
lol |
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garywhite |
Well, the Re: to the second message, not the first |
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octacian |
IK, I was too lazy to reply to first via forum, since my response would simply have been ":rotfl:" |
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garywhite |
oh ok |
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garywhite |
If you don't mind me asking, what is your endev.xyz site for? |
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octacian |
my company, enDEV |
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garywhite |
Ehm, what does enDEV do? |
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octacian |
Nothing ATM, right now I'm finishing a project for the Canadian Action Party, then I (enDEV) will actually be able to start doing something. The things I will be doing include software dev, and website developmebnt. |
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garywhite |
Ah ok |
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octacian |
I have way too much work to do.. so I'm gonna go play on ethereal. |
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Hijiri |
any gamedev? |
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octacian |
what do you mean? |
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sofar |
Hijiri: no |
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octacian |
ok, thought that's what he meant |
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garywhite |
Hey octacian have you tried Slitaz Linux? With several packages you can have a useful Linux distro with less than 8GB HDD and 1GB RAM, it also has a bunch of server utils built-in |
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octacian |
interesting. I run ubuntu on laptop and Ubuntu Server on server. |
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octacian |
However, just discovered that server HDD is entirely full for some reason. wasn't yesterday |
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garywhite |
slitaz.org I use it on a VirtualBox VM with 2GB RAM on my 4GB RAM laptop, and it runs very fast |
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garywhite |
Hmm, did you get hacked? |
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octacian |
I'm beginning to wonder that. I mean, though I don't usually monitor it, even /home is only 4.1G |
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octacian |
..and "/" is reported as being 15G |
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octacian |
yet df -h reports that /home/server/.Private (mounted at /home/server) is 100% used.. wait, that's kinda weird... |
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octacian |
IRDK |
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garywhite |
May need a reinstall |
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garywhite |
BTW slitaz is semi-compatible with Debian, it'll run some Debian pkgs |
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octacian |
Yeah, I'm thinking about reinstall. We'll see how it goes... |
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octacian |
maybe I should anyways, since the install on it was the second time I'd ever installed Ubuntu, first time installing Ubuntu Server. |
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whitephoenix |
I've been trying to think of some things I could do to help minetest in python |
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garywhite |
octacian if you tell me what software you use on Ubuntu I'll see if I can throw something together in Slitaz for you to look at |
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octacian |
OK, gimme a bit, I'm eating ATM. almost done though |
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garywhite |
ok |
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garywhite |
Also, I'd add for your IRC the Hexchat or nettalk clients (I've used both, they're both very good |
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octacian |
ok. i haven't even finished the irc page yet lol |
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octacian |
garywhite: main software is minetest, inspircd, apache2, mysql, postfix, dovecot, roundcube, and possibly a few others. |
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garywhite |
octacian: OK, minetest is kinda iffy (not in default repos), apache & mysql for sure, other stuff idk... |
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garywhite |
octacian: I'll see about getting it done tonight, if not tomorrow |
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OldCoder |
What does octacian need? |
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OldCoder |
whitephoenix, scripts to start and stop worlds; possibly to edit binaries |
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OldCoder |
I have written some of that |
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OldCoder |
Slitaz channel is here in Freenode |
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OldCoder |
Say Hello to Six Years of Dreams if you see him there |
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OldCoder |
Tell him the Old Coder sent you :-) |
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OldCoder |
garywhite, octacian ^ |
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garywhite |
Actually I'm there rn |
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cheapie |
Hmm, I could have sworn my house was bigger than this: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20161128_225723.png |
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cheapie |
Well, I tried MT on an ancient Pentium 3 box to see what would happen.... "frames per second" probably isn't the way to describe the performance, but rather "seconds per frame". |
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cheapie |
SuperTux, meanwhile, runs just fine. |
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lordfingle |
Greetings! |
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hmmmm |
SuperTuxKart is mostly static |
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hmmmm |
you're a static 3d mesh loaded from a file with limited geometry that moves around another world that itself is a static mesh with limited geometry |
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hmmmm |
it does not need to calculate dynamic water flow or lighting whenever part of the terrain is modified because - surprise - the terrain can't be modified |
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hmmmm |
it's a fundamentally unfair comparison |
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hmmmm |
that's not to say that MT isn't slower than it otherwise could be |
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hmmmm |
but, man, don't compare it to supertuxkart or some run of the mill FPS |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Electronic Greetings Day! 😠|
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est31 |
JamesTait: electronic greetings to you! |
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JamesTait |
est31, I thought it had a particular ring to it. 😉 |
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jluc |
Hello |
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jluc |
my son Ulysse is running minetest 0.4.7 on MSWindows 8 or 9 (or 10) |
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jluc |
he asks for animals and monsters mods |
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jluc |
so i installed animals_modpack, animalmaterials mobf_core and and adv_spawning |
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jluc |
that seem to work together |
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VanessaE |
0.4.7 is badly outdated. |
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jluc |
but when these are activated and i launch minetest an error occurs : cant find c://pathto/modname/init.lua |
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VanessaE |
get 0.4.14 and try again |
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jluc |
ok VanessaE |
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jluc |
are those mods a good choice together for a first "with animals" experience ? |
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VanessaE |
should be fine |
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jluc |
doest it include monsters also or what stable mod do you advise for monsters ? |
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VanessaE |
mobs_redo should get what you want |
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VanessaE |
if I have the name right |
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jluc |
thanks a lot |
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octacian |
0.4.7... no offence, but I didn't know anybody still used that lol |
| 16:31 |
octacian |
jluc: you might find CME by BlockMen pretty interesting as well. It's the best monster/creatures mod I've ever seen, animation, AI, and all |
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jluc |
ah ok |
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jluc |
should i uninstall 0.4.7 before installing 0.4.14 or will 0.4.14 do it automagically ? |
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VanessaE |
uninstall it. |
| 16:32 |
octacian |
It doesn't have very many animals, but it's pretty nice. |
| 16:32 |
jluc |
i do not want to loose the created worlds |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
you can back them up |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
just copy them somewhere |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
they'll be in <minetest folder>/worlds |
| 16:34 |
octacian |
so mt doesn't just update? you have to manually uninstall and reinstall on windows? huh, I don't do that on Ubuntu, but |
| 16:34 |
jluc |
ok |
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VanessaE |
on windows, "installing it" amounts to unzipping it somewhere. |
| 16:35 |
octacian |
wow.... |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
so you can end up with dozens of copies if you don't clean-up. |
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octacian |
this is one reason why I no longer use windows |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
the same is true for linux if you build with "run in place" enabled. I don't. |
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sfan5 |
octacian: generally you can't assume that *any* windows software will update itself |
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sfan5 |
many do |
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sfan5 |
but with stuff like open source programs often nobody wants to touch windows |
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jluc |
so i can delete minetest inner files, leaving world and mods, and unzip new version in same place ? |
| 16:37 |
jluc |
is there any other files i should keep (for login and connections for example ?) |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
jluc: make a backup copy of the worlds/mods to somewhere safe and delete the whole folder. |
| 16:37 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:37 |
jluc |
ok |
| 16:37 |
sfan5 |
keep the old folder until everything works nicely with the new copy |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
or do that. |
| 16:38 |
jluc |
renaming it |
| 16:45 |
jluc |
ok i installed new version and old worlds and mods |
| 16:45 |
jluc |
UI has changed |
| 16:45 |
octacian |
probably |
| 16:45 |
jluc |
i can unistall mods but how do i activate one ? |
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sfan5 |
"configure world" button |
| 16:46 |
jluc |
yes ! |
| 16:49 |
jluc |
not ready but i have to go (IRL etir à l'arc" now) |
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Fixer |
in windows, unzipping today should be preffered way, installing will get you crapware |
| 17:00 |
Fixer |
not sure about winstore |
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garywhite |
MT is on Windows Store now? |
| 17:01 |
Fixer |
no |
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Krock |
.. Knows not where's he going to. Isn't he a bit like you and me? Nowhereman please listen. You don't know you're missin' :P |
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* twoelk |
peeks in using webchat secretly from a computer not his own psssssssssssssss - stealth mode |
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* Wayward1 |
peeks in doing exactly the same thing :3 |
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twoelk |
octacian, when moving to a new minetest folder/version on a run-in-place-version you may also copy the favorites file and the cache content over to the new installation. This is only of importance though if you connect to remote servers and not actually vital. Copying your minetest.config over might be more important or at least convinient |
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* twoelk |
has some 20+ installations of minetest versions living happily side by side on a portable device sharing the same screenshot folder |
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twoelk |
oops actually the info was probably more for jluc - so it seems - |
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* garywhite |
used to have 0.4.13-final, 0.4.14-final, and 0.4.14-dev (final means stable version released to public) |
| 18:18 |
garywhite |
on the same laptop with a 320GB HDD |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
why not just 0.4.14-stable?? |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
makes explanations redundant |
| 18:19 |
garywhite |
yeah, you're right |
| 18:19 |
garywhite |
I had all my old worlds in my 0.4.13-stable, I used 0.4.14-stable, and then I used 0.4.14-dev from time to time |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
backups on a different locations are very good to prevent data loss ;) |
| 18:20 |
Chinchou |
^ lesson often learned the hard way |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
I back up my whole data drive on a PATA drive I can't mount into my compuetr anymore.. works perfectly as external sorage |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
*computer |
| 18:21 |
garywhite |
ok, if MT will have 15 releases in the 0.4.x version, maybe after 0.4.15 the devs should consider changing it to 0.5.x |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
0.5.x means an incompatible protocol change to 0.4.x |
| 18:22 |
Chinchou |
Speaking of versioning, is MT using semantic versioning? |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
which does not happen (yet) |
| 18:22 |
Chinchou |
Aha. |
| 18:22 |
agaran |
MT had no 0.3141... release ;) |
| 18:22 |
agaran |
nor euler release.. |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
Chinchou, kind of, but they're still not sure if they do |
| 18:22 |
garywhite |
What? |
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* agaran |
hides |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
agaran, like we need that <.< |
| 18:23 |
agaran |
Krock, oh, well.. a tiny bit of fun for 1 april? |
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Krock |
releasing Minetest 1.0 would be a funny thing (new default textures, but otherwise still the same) |
| 18:24 |
garywhite |
So basically it would be impossible to change the version series from 0.4.x to 0.5.x? |
| 18:24 |
Krock |
people will be like "omg finally", and to hour later "what's the difference?" |
| 18:24 |
Krock |
garywhite, nobody said that. It's possible |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
but we're not ready for it yet |
| 18:25 |
Out`Of`Control |
0.100.14 |
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Krock |
I already see Minetest 0.4.17 coming soon.... |
| 18:25 |
Chinchou |
^ aneurysm |
| 18:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Wow I just got in here and someone's dead what did I do |
| 18:26 |
garywhite |
Yeah, maybe 0.4.16 should come first...But 1.0, I think technology should catch up a bit more before a major version jump like that |
| 18:26 |
Chinchou |
that was meant at Out`Of`Control's comment |
| 18:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
So can I create a mesh for an entity in the game? |
| 18:27 |
Out`Of`Control |
is there todo for 1.0? |
| 18:27 |
Out`Of`Control |
a list |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=7 |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
check out the developer's posts |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
s/posts/topics/ |
| 18:29 |
Out`Of`Control |
thanks Krock |
| 18:30 |
Krock |
!next |
| 18:30 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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jluc |
here back |
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jluc |
've installed minetest 0.4.14 and mods animals_modpack , adv_spawning , animalmaterials and mobfcore251 |
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jluc |
and it errors on launching a world playing |
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twoelk |
nevr heard of mobfcore251 |
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jluc |
"basics to create a mob" |
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Chinchou |
perhaps it is mobf_core |
| 18:51 |
jluc |
yes i had to rename folders so all characters get accepted |
| 18:51 |
sfan5 |
isn't mobf long gone? |
| 18:52 |
Chinchou |
Renaming the directories often seems to cause problems, as mods expect specific names. |
| 18:52 |
jluc |
but all zip come with unusable names ! |
| 18:53 |
sfan5 |
jluc: remove mobf and use these instead https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 |
| 18:53 |
Chinchou |
I have yet to see such a thing. What exactly do you mean by "unusable"? |
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jluc |
i mean it errors something like "only [a-z0-9_-] are ok" |
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sfan5 |
Chinchou: when you download a zip from github it has a folder named "username-mod_name-master-232356wefwj42tgwef" |
| 18:54 |
sfan5 |
however you need to name it "mod_name" |
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jluc |
so i took all . out of the name and replaced with _ and even so it errors same so i took all - and _ off and now it's ok |
| 18:55 |
Chinchou |
I've never seen that. I've seen "modname-master", but never anything beyond that. |
| 18:55 |
Chinchou |
I haven't grabbed zips lately, though. |
| 18:55 |
jluc |
now mods can be installed ok |
| 18:55 |
sfan5 |
jluc: remove mobf and use these instead https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 |
| 18:55 |
jluc |
ok sfan5 |
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jluc |
BTW the error i got now is because adv_modpath is nil (and undeclared) cand cant be concatenated in advspawning/init.lua |
| 18:58 |
jluc |
oh your link is mob redo with both animals and monsters. |
| 18:59 |
jluc |
quote "you need to name it "mod_name"" : how do i know precise exact mod-name ? |
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Chinchou |
jluc, leave the "modname" part alone when you remove the "-master" from it. |
| 19:00 |
Chinchou |
It should already be named properly. Github likes to add "-master", and that's the only thing to remove(unless, as sfan5 said, it adds things like "username-", which should also be removed) |
| 19:01 |
Chinchou |
Beyond that, don't mangle the name. |
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kaeza |
another way to know the mod name is look in the code files for things like `register_node` and such |
| 19:17 |
kaeza |
also greetings |
| 19:18 |
kaeza |
https://web.archive.org/web/20120414002138/http://minetest.net/forum/ |
| 19:18 |
kaeza |
such nostalgia |
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Krock |
that's just a year before I joined o.o |
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sfan5 |
kaeza: the old forum software was definitely better |
| 19:32 |
Krock |
^ moderator's perspecive? |
| 19:32 |
sfan5 |
generally |
| 19:32 |
Krock |
I like both forums. At the end it's the speed that matters to me |
| 19:33 |
kaeza |
punBB was way faster than phpBB |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 19:34 |
IKRadulov |
continuing discussion from minetest-dev . http://pastebin.com/aXhFMMKU |
| 19:35 |
kaeza |
these network problems suck. pastebin.com is dead, minetest.net is dead, ... |
| 19:36 |
kaeza |
well, IDC about pastebin too much, actually |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
IKRadulov, the function in "register_globalstep" does not get any parameter apart from dtime |
| 19:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
IKRadulov, for _,player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do |
| 19:39 |
Krock |
IKRadulov, use the function minetest.get_connected_players() to get all players that are connected to the time the globalstep is called |
| 19:41 |
Krock |
maybe you'll find use in the function "default.player_set_animation" aswell. It will change the current used animation |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
but make sure that the player is attached (default.player_attached) before calling it. Otherwise it will get changed back by the default mod itself |
| 19:45 |
IKRadulov |
in line 28 in the function with (dtime) i have added player as a parameter . now i see that i give the player to the parameter not the the function register_globalstep but i don't think that register_global_step can accept parameter player |
| 19:46 |
Krock |
it accepts all parameters you define in the function - it will just fill in "nil" everytime :P |
| 19:49 |
IKRadulov |
Thank you men . I would realy like to use my model (Has a neck :D). And I plan to do a parkour mod for minetest but I am new to modding and minetest so it's hard for me |
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Krock |
no problem. just ask |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
but answers may take a while here ^^ |
| 19:52 |
IKRadulov |
Thanks . I usualy use the dev wiki to see methods and objects but goes i have to use the api_lua too |
| 19:53 |
Krock |
another great source are the mods from other people. very helpful to understand how the stuff works :) |
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Anderssen |
Hi. When I start minetest with the option --server, it doesn't start the GUI, which is fine. However, is there a way to enter commands or chat in this mode? |
| 20:01 |
IKRadulov |
Are you using winddows ? |
| 20:03 |
IKRadulov |
no |
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Anderssen |
kk |
| 20:13 |
kaeza |
this is an old one: https://github.com/Menche/external_cmd |
| 20:13 |
Menche |
which is terribly hacky |
| 20:13 |
Menche |
I'd almost forgotten I had made that |
| 20:13 |
kaeza |
o hai Menche |
| 20:14 |
Menche |
.o/ |
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| 20:14 |
sfan5 |
Anderssen: we have an ncurses command console |
| 20:14 |
Fixer |
https://web.archive.org/web/20120615081323/http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=319 |
| 20:14 |
Fixer |
hooooly shiiit |
| 20:14 |
Fixer |
i was a moderator back then? |
| 20:14 |
* Menche |
used to be a moderator too |
| 20:14 |
Fixer |
amnesia |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
on celerons development server? |
| 20:15 |
Menche |
on the forum |
| 20:15 |
swift110 |
hey all |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
totally forgot that i was a moderator |
| 20:16 |
agaran |
Fixer, ;) internet will remember all your sins |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
TIL fixer was here that long |
| 20:17 |
Fixer |
i was |
| 20:17 |
Fixer |
proud tsundere.fi and c55.me player (and moderator o_0) |
| 20:17 |
Fixer |
since 0.2.2011 |
| 20:18 |
Menche |
yay |
| 20:18 |
* Menche |
was around then too |
| 20:18 |
Fixer |
it is amazing how you can forgot some things |
| 20:18 |
kaeza |
sfan5, ncurses works on windows? |
| 20:18 |
Anderssen |
kaeza, Menche thanks, I got to look into this |
| 20:18 |
Anderssen |
i mean sfan5 |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: idk |
| 20:18 |
kaeza |
Anderssen, you are quite welcome... anyway |
| 20:18 |
Menche |
was tsundere.fi kray's server? |
| 20:18 |
Menche |
I forget |
| 20:18 |
Fixer |
Kray's yes |
| 20:19 |
Fixer |
i need his map, OldCoder has it but have not put online yet |
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| 20:19 |
Fixer |
just to find my house and walk it like 5 years ago |
| 20:20 |
kaeza |
!sfu Fixer |
| 20:20 |
kaeza |
removed? :( |
| 20:20 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: !stfu |
| 20:20 |
kaeza |
no u |
| 20:20 |
sfan5 |
wtf is sfu |
| 20:20 |
Menche |
wait |
| 20:21 |
kaeza |
"search forum user" or something |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
kray's *first* or second map? |
| 20:21 |
kaeza |
or was that MinetestTan? |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
oh |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
MinetestTan and minetestbot are the same codebase |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
i removed it when we switched forum software |
| 20:21 |
kaeza |
ah |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
both were legendary, but the first moreso |
| 20:22 |
Menche |
that sky city |
| 20:22 |
Kray |
i gave whatever world files i had intact to celeron55 some months ago |
| 20:22 |
Kray |
i know i've lost one due to a raid failure in 2012, but no idea if it had anything relevant in it |
| 20:23 |
Fixer |
ohi |
| 20:23 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: it was gone before Mon Jan 7 19:00:44 2013 which is the date i pushed mtbot modules to github |
| 20:23 |
Fixer |
and celeron gave it to OldCoder who intents to put it online when he gets unbusy |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
i would host it but i hate maintaining mt servers |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
unless it's read-only |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
that would be kind of boring but is the intention probably |
| 20:26 |
Menche |
I could probably find a world off my old server if I dug around |
| 20:26 |
Menche |
but it would be an extreme chore getting it functional again, because of the mess of deprecated mods |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
Server down due to a FUCKTON of griefing. [...] |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
i remember this |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
because of huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge lava grief |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Menche, I do that :-) |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
spawn below lava sea, nostalgia |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Got a world? At me let it be hurled |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Worlds R Us without no fuss |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Let your world <bee> all it can <bee> |
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| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Come and let us see |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Old worlds repaired, no need to be scared |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Old mobs shall walk again |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
OldCoder: i hope you put Tsundere.fi and C55.me maps online, or at least give download links to them (i want to walk on them offline) |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Let's boot it up and fix walrus:pup |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Old worlds shall rise again |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Fixer, you don't understand |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
nice |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
It isn't about that; I don't even know where they *are*. We never found them. |
| 20:29 |
Kray |
thinking about it afterwards it is kind of stupid the thing i ran even had the kind of special treatment in the fairly early days by being in irc channel topic and whatnot |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
Fixer, C55 himself doesn't know where they are |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
OldCoder: waait, celeron give you some |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
ahh |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
Fixer, C55 himself doesn't know where they are <<< |
| 20:29 |
Kray |
it was running on an intel atom and i there was absolutely no moderation |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
oops |
| 20:29 |
Menche |
lol |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
We hope to dig through the files and find them |
| 20:29 |
Menche |
I ran mine on an atom |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
Fixer, PM |
| 20:29 |
Kray |
-i |
| 20:30 |
Kray |
i vaguely remember running something at the time when minetest had realistic fluid simulation |
| 20:30 |
Kray |
where it actually calculates water pressure |
| 20:30 |
celeron55 |
the old servers were lost due to griefing due to lack of moderation (and tools for even doing any moderation) |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
i've posted screenshot of that lava sea many times |
| 20:31 |
Kray |
it became completely unplayable if you made some kind of a hole where lots of water could flow |
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Kray |
because it was just processing the water flowing |
| 20:32 |
agaran |
That would be neat sometimes.. or limiting how far water/lava can flow downwards.. |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
i remember there was finite water merged for some time? but later removed? |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
it was disabled by default |
| 20:37 |
Kray |
yeah i guess it was called finite water |
| 20:38 |
sfan5 |
doesn't freeminer still have it? |
| 20:38 |
* Menche |
forgets when he stopped playing minetest |
| 20:38 |
Menche |
I think the then-new physics was the last straw |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
Minetest railcarts and other features / 2012-04-04 17:55:59 |
| 20:38 |
* Menche |
hated them |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
4 years later... |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
and a half |
| 20:39 |
Kray |
celeron55: now this is what i call old http://kray.dy.fi/b/minetest/mualimma.jpg |
| 20:40 |
celeron55 |
that's the first server that had support for saving the map on disk |
| 20:40 |
Menche |
do you still need a half dozen blocks of water to break a fall safely? |
| 20:40 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/dZ4Gv.jpg (krays one) |
| 20:40 |
Kray |
i wonder if there's any screenshots of the one that didn't supporting |
| 20:40 |
Kray |
*support |
| 20:41 |
Fixer |
my house is at 3 oclock near edge of the sea |
| 20:41 |
sfan5 |
Menche: depends on the fall height obviously |
| 20:41 |
Menche |
urgh |
| 20:42 |
* kaeza |
also recalls the "finite lava" shitstorm |
| 20:42 |
Menche |
oh yes |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
#lavagate |
| 20:42 |
Fixer |
i will show two pics |
| 20:42 |
Menche |
is lava still finite? |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
no |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
cool |
| 20:44 |
Fixer |
anyone remembers? https://i.imgur.com/pPKQZQb.jpg |
| 20:44 |
celeron55 |
Kray: i think you will remember this http://c55.me/random/2010-10/old/verkkopelia.png |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
or hot |
| 20:44 |
Kray |
yeah that |
| 20:44 |
Fixer |
or that? https://i.imgur.com/PbNeWdZ.png |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
Menche, yes, lava is finite (i.e. not renewable) |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
ew |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
ok |
| 20:45 |
* Menche |
also strongly disliked the mese into crystals thing from around that time |
| 20:45 |
Menche |
and the physics where the ground felt greasy when using fast_move |
| 20:45 |
Menche |
and where you needed half a dozen water blocks to break a fall |
| 20:46 |
kaeza |
I think you can now create a node that does no damage or even heals on contact |
| 20:46 |
Menche |
>:( |
| 20:46 |
agaran |
ethereal has such.. |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
so add a pillow at the bottom of your 31KM tall tower -> no damage |
| 20:47 |
agaran |
muchrom pods, you can fall from 1k nodes on it.. and stop without any harm |
| 20:47 |
* Menche |
liked the original physics; they were oversimplified, sure, but what isn't in this game genre |
| 20:48 |
Menche |
this isn't kerbal space program |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
I think ragdoll physics would be cool :P |
| 20:48 |
* kaeza |
hides |
| 20:49 |
Fixer |
http://c55.me/random/2011-10/envirobear-2011-10-30_13-10-31.png |
| 20:49 |
Menche |
O_O |
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Kray |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQJaAjrZLA |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
http://c55.me/random/2011-10/server_shots/tscrot-2011-10-18_20-41-18.png AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
i remember this |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
my place is right on that hill to the right |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
i(or other dude) made road to this glass thing |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
later |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
remember those roads ;) http://c55.me/random/2011-10/server_shots/tscrot-2011-10-18_20-47-16.png |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
LOL, me on screenshot |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
<Fixer> lag |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
ofc |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
what else could i say |
| 20:52 |
* Menche |
has some old screenshots from kray's server |
| 20:52 |
Menche |
think it was the last world it ran |
| 20:53 |
Menche |
does cisoun's texture pack still exist? I remember he used some ad-laden crap host and overwrote links to old versions |
| 20:53 |
twoelk |
maybe we should have a history of minetest-servers page on the wiki |
| 20:53 |
Fixer |
detected! > http://c55.me/random/2011-10/server_shots/tscrot-2011-10-18_20-39-29.png |
| 20:54 |
* Menche |
vaguely recalls that ship/tower |
| 20:54 |
Sokomine |
Menche: it usually works quite ok if bones are removed, bags installed and no item loss occours at player death. in such a case it is not too critical when the occasional fall kills you. back on redcrab, it was sometimes even faster to just suicide-jump down somewhere instead of typing /spawn :-) |
| 20:54 |
Sokomine |
Menche: your server was also nice |
| 20:55 |
Menche |
ah, bones |
| 20:55 |
Menche |
the spawn clogger mod |
| 20:55 |
Fixer |
finally |
| 20:55 |
Fixer |
my house in a mountain: http://c55.me/random/2011-10/server_shots/tscrot-2011-10-18_20-42-45.png |
| 20:56 |
Menche |
remember the kitten cafe? |
| 20:56 |
Fixer |
no |
| 20:56 |
Fixer |
:( |
| 20:56 |
Menche |
the building made of nyancat blocks |
| 20:56 |
Fixer |
i don't think there were nyans |
| 20:56 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE does fixes to her version of mt (not only dreambuilder) that make it more convenient for players. sadly, not all server admins are nice to their builders |
| 20:57 |
Fixer |
^____________^ my home http://c55.me/random/2011-10/server_shots/tscrot-2011-10-18_20-43-15.png |
| 20:57 |
Sokomine |
is it any better than your house in the mountain? |
| 20:58 |
Menche |
remember the extensive periods of vandals by LandMine? |
| 20:59 |
Fixer |
no, i remember that Kray map was griefed a lot in center, and constant griefing on c55.me |
| 20:59 |
Fixer |
that was almost 5 years ago |
| 20:59 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: this is my house in a mountain |
| 21:01 |
Fixer |
screenshots were made early it seems, some buildings are missing |
| 21:02 |
Fixer |
server at night: http://c55.me/random/2011-10/server_shots/tscrot-2011-10-18_20-53-59.png |
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* Menche |
left the minetest community sometime after the wars over mese crystals, finite lava, and overdone physics |
| 21:05 |
Sokomine |
ah. i remember. we had that strange bug with falling items on menches server. flowers and tools stacking almost endlessly through solid nodes |
| 21:05 |
Sokomine |
i still have screenshots of those odd rows |
| 21:05 |
twoelk |
Menche, you could create a subgame to your liking - might be an intersting alternative |
| 21:05 |
Menche |
ah, the entity duplication bugs |
| 21:06 |
Menche |
twoelk, I actually plan on doing that |
| 21:06 |
twoelk |
cool |
| 21:07 |
Menche |
I has been playing and occasionally contributing to voxelands, darkrose's revival of minetest 0.3.3 |
| 21:08 |
Fixer |
Menche: what is amazing is how other stuff was standing ok on Kray's server, lots of stuff not griefed |
| 21:08 |
twoelk |
btw, what where the arguments against mese crystals? |
| 21:08 |
Menche |
s/has/had |
| 21:08 |
Fixer |
Menche: lol, you left because of mese crystals? come on.... |
| 21:08 |
Menche |
mese crystals, finite lava, and overdone physics |
| 21:08 |
Fixer |
Menche: minetest has carts now... |
| 21:09 |
Menche |
also there was quite a bit of drama over who made decisions |
| 21:09 |
twoelk |
seems the same at all times |
| 21:09 |
Menche |
and then darkrose made her fork of minetest 0.3.3 |
| 21:09 |
Menche |
so I jumped over to that |
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| 21:11 |
Sokomine |
that sounds good, menche |
| 21:11 |
Menche |
twoelk, mese blocks were something that had been in the game for a long time, and were unique to minetest (I think the story was that they were a placeholder that was never replaced) |
| 21:11 |
Menche |
basically a historical artifact of sorts |
| 21:11 |
Sokomine |
er, i mean the new subgame/server |
| 21:12 |
Sokomine |
Menche: mese blocks can still be found in the game. they're just very rare and can only be found below -1024 |
| 21:12 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 21:12 |
Sokomine |
but such things can easily be changed in the game :-) |
| 21:13 |
twoelk |
Indeed I consider mese and nyancats and sneakladders important parts of minetest - but crystals did not do away with mese - they just expanded the gameplay |
| 21:15 |
Fixer |
http://c55.me/random/2010-10/grumbuduts.png |
| 21:16 |
twoelk |
that must have taken some time to build |
| 21:16 |
Menche |
anyways voxelands is kind of dead now :/ |
| 21:16 |
* twoelk |
hasn't played voxeland for ages - maybe should check the current state of the game ;-P |
| 21:16 |
Menche |
is that the old Barad Dur? |
| 21:16 |
sfan5 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzfSAG4gFgU / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpZpa0fCMiU / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwH7KpDAjag |
| 21:16 |
sfan5 |
^ Fixer |
| 21:17 |
Menche |
not sure if anyone is still actively playing it |
| 21:18 |
Menche |
darkrose hasn't done much on it for a while; she started coding another game and building a steam locomotive, and lost interest :P |
| 21:18 |
Sokomine |
last time i tried there where players on servers |
| 21:18 |
Fixer |
sfan5: waaaaaaaait, I REMEMBER this |
| 21:18 |
Sokomine |
but it's some time ago now |
| 21:18 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 21:18 |
Fixer |
sfan5: there was big empty area near it |
| 21:19 |
Menche |
I sort of took it up after she lost interest, but I am famously under motivated |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
holy shit yes |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
i visited that place many times |
| 21:19 |
Menche |
both development and playing has wound down significantly |
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| 21:24 |
Menche |
does minetest have support for a server status page? |
| 21:24 |
Menche |
like http://servers.voxelands.com:30001/ |
| 21:24 |
Fixer |
Menche: servers.minetest.net |
| 21:25 |
Menche |
voxelands' is per-server |
| 21:25 |
Menche |
darkrose added an embedded micro http server (though I'd prefer a CGI script) |
| 21:25 |
Menche |
that looks blank? |
| 21:26 |
Menche |
oh, javascript |
| 21:26 |
Menche |
grar |
| 21:27 |
Fixer |
http://c55.me/random/2010-10/mapdraw2.png Far Map 1.0 |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
or even 0.1 |
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| 21:32 |
Fixer |
http://c55.me/random/2010-10/unlimitedheightmap_debug.png interesting |
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Fixer |
http://c55.me/random/2011-04/screenshot-2007-09-02.png |
| 21:37 |
Fixer |
pokerface |
| 21:39 |
jluc |
so goood |
| 21:39 |
jluc |
i managed to install and run mobs-redo and monsters and animals |
| 21:40 |
jluc |
couldnt get rid of errors for animals-modpack |
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| 21:41 |
Fixer |
i miss those 4:3 notebooks http://c55.me/random/2011-06/totallyrandom/20110620-tyopoyta.jpg |
| 21:41 |
Fixer |
now you can't see shit on this small 16:9 crap |
| 21:42 |
* Menche |
puts black bars on Fixer's screen's edges |
| 21:42 |
Fixer |
i still use 5:4 |
| 21:43 |
Fixer |
until it dies |
| 21:43 |
* Menche |
has an old Dell Inspiron 5150 |
| 21:43 |
Menche |
1024x768, Pentium 4 |
| 21:44 |
Menche |
has nvidia card, but would probably lose horribly to modern integrated graphics :P |
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Fixer |
what card? |
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Fixer |
5XXX series? |
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Fixer |
or 4TI ? |
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Menche |
not sure |
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* Menche |
looks up |
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twoelk |
hehe, I like that toiletpaper roll in fixer's pic |
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Fixer |
i know what you did there.png |
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twoelk |
I wonder whats in all them coffe pots |
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Fixer |
what I like in Finland is lots of wood |
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twoelk |
*coffee |
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* Fixer |
has scarce woods |
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* twoelk |
notices he should get on the road if he wants to be home before midnight :-/ |
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Sokomine |
Fixer: yes. inflation...in the past, a 12" notebook was good enough. now you have to buy a 14" in order to get a 12" |
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Sokomine |
(which is much heavier) |
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Menche |
that model had an nVidia GeForce FX Go 5200 |
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Fixer |
Menche: crappy one |
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Fixer |
my relative had this 5200 too |
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Fixer |
vaporwave also adds to the nostalgia |
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swift110 |
true Sokomine |
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swift110 |
menche do you play minetest on that old machine? |
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garywhite |
How do I compile Minetest from Git? |
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rubenwardy |
what OS? |
| 22:28 |
garywhite |
Win |
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Fixer |
nevermind ^_> |
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rubenwardy |
Are you a masochist? |
| 22:29 |
garywhite |
? |
| 22:29 |
rubenwardy |
on a more serious note: |
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rubenwardy |
http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_Windows |
| 22:30 |
garywhite |
ok thanks |
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Fixer |
actually i've compiled minetest on windows 4 years ago with msvc2005 |
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rubenwardy |
Ask sfan5 or Krock for help, they seem like they know what they're doing |
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Fixer |
and used modified celerons bat script |
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Fixer |
on windows xp |
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Fixer |
and krock still uses it |
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Fixer |
good os, but security... |
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garywhite |
ok I think I'll hold off on it for now...I don't want to install that much software |
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kaeza |
garywhite, what I did was download the packages listed in util/buildbot, install MinGW, and compiled C++ packages myself (Irrlicht and some other I forget) |
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Fixer |
garywhite: try installing msvc2005 and use precompiled binaries ^_> |
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Fixer |
loving those mixed birch apple trees |
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garywhite |
For some reason I already have MSVC2005 redistributable and MSVC2012 redistributable |
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Fixer |
garywhite: not sure if this helps, here is veeery old celerons script modified by me and used by me 4 years ago: http://pastebin.com/raw/r91HFW2t |
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Fixer |
it will not work for sure %) |
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Fixer |
don't try it, just education purposes |
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Fixer |
garywhite: ask Krock, he knows better |
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garywhite |
I think I'll just use sfan's builds for now, I don't want to get into that much detail of writing scripts & all that |
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Fixer |
new snow texture looks wonderful, i love it more and more |
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Sokomine |
someone on the forum posted an article about using the new linux emulation/included ubuntu to compile and run mt under win. no idea how useful that is |
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Fixer |
big thanks to RBA for that graphic fixes, snow scenes are wonderful. RIP |
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Fixer |
Sokomine: probably sfan? |
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Fixer |
Sokomine: i do it the same way, i have VM with debian and cross-compiler |
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Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/bHKkSsi.jpg ^___^ |
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Allycat007 |
How do I go? |
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Allycat007 |
Oops |
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Allycat007 |
Auto correct |
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Allycat007 |
How do I tp |
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Sokomine |
Allycat007: depends. if you have the teleport priv, you can use that command to teleport to another player or to coordinates. else you'll have to see what's installed on the server. there are diffrent mods |
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Allycat007 |
I'm on OldCoder wizard school |
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Sokomine |
keep looking for a travelnet box. those allow you to teleport to other travelnet boxes |
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Sokomine |
right-click such a box (it's yellow/glass, 2 nodes high) if you find one |
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