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Allycat007 |
Does anyone know how to download mods from the minetest website |
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KikaRz |
Dat moment you get onto Java again: http://i.imgur.com/mVHAhDE.png |
| 00:40 |
whitephoenix |
why netbeans? |
| 00:42 |
Fixer |
xfce is life |
| 00:43 |
whitephoenix |
^ |
| 00:45 |
whitephoenix |
https://i.imgur.com/SCuINSh.png |
| 00:45 |
KikaRz |
then you go on optimization: http://i.imgur.com/IL6K9uL.png |
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whitephoenix |
you should try intellij idea, its pretty great for java |
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KikaRz |
well, it's never late to try it out. |
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KikaRz |
it's intellij idea on arch packages? |
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whitephoenix |
probably |
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whitephoenix |
if not its in the aur |
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KikaRz |
i hope so :D |
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KikaRz |
what's the difference between the community and the ultimate editions? |
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whitephoenix |
I don't use IDEs but when I did that one was the best right before pycharm |
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whitephoenix |
community edition is free and open source, ultimate requires paymen |
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KikaRz |
so why is ultimate on AUR? |
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whitephoenix |
I have no ideaee |
| 00:50 |
whitephoenix |
(pun not intended) |
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whitephoenix |
can you make light up particles in minetest? |
| 00:51 |
KikaRz |
i could when i used to make mods. |
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Emperor_Genshin |
Allycat007, just go to the minetest forums and look for the mods, they provide download links, including github. |
| 00:57 |
Emperor_Genshin |
after downloading them, remove the "_master" part of the file, and make sure the file's permissions are set to access files for others. |
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Emperor_Genshin |
before placing them on the mods directory |
| 00:58 |
whitephoenix |
it looks like theres an open issue for adding light_level to particles |
| 00:58 |
whitephoenix |
too bad it hasn't been added |
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KikaRz |
ahahaha |
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KikaRz |
my computer just told the compilation to stop and told it that there is no space on the device. |
| 01:06 |
KikaRz |
erro ao escrever '/tmp/yaourt-tmp-drakz/aur-intellij-idea-ce/pkg/intellij-idea-ce/opt/intellij-idea-ce/redist/annotations-java8.jar': No space left on device |
| 01:07 |
KikaRz |
the computer just totally froze up |
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whitephoenix |
ouch |
| 01:08 |
KikaRz |
42,3GB isn't enough? |
| 01:08 |
KikaRz |
i have enough free space. |
| 01:08 |
whitephoenix |
do you have a seperate home partition? |
| 01:08 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 01:08 |
whitephoenix |
run df -h |
| 01:09 |
KikaRz |
many tmpfs |
| 01:09 |
KikaRz |
(5) |
| 01:10 |
whitephoenix |
check use % see whats full |
| 01:10 |
KikaRz |
tmpfs 1,9G 1,9G 36K 100% /tmp |
| 01:11 |
KikaRz |
i just sudo rm -rf * on /tmp folder |
| 01:11 |
whitephoenix |
idk then |
| 01:11 |
KikaRz |
yaourt-tmp-drakz was there. |
| 01:11 |
whitephoenix |
I wouldn't but you can try |
| 01:11 |
whitephoenix |
systemd might throw a fit |
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KikaRz |
the damn package() on intellij ce just consumes /tmp up. |
| 01:16 |
KikaRz |
http://i.imgur.com/hgJTdPZ.png |
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whitephoenix |
sudo pacman -S intellij-idea-community-edition |
| 01:19 |
KikaRz |
that's a bit out of date, but ok |
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KikaRz |
Hey diemartin (kaeza)! |
| 01:24 |
diemartin |
o/ |
| 01:31 |
KikaRz |
whitephoenix, it takes a lot to Index. |
| 01:32 |
MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Carts: Make rails 'is ground content = false' 0196c47 https://git.io/v1IsP (2016-11-28T01:28:24Z) |
| 01:32 |
MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Creative: Re-implement constant hand dig times, add comment fa17fe3 https://git.io/v1IsX (2016-11-28T01:28:24Z) |
| 01:32 |
MinetestBot |
[git] kaeza -> minetest/minetest_game: Carts: Take creative mode into account 788ae97 https://git.io/v1Is1 (2016-11-28T01:27:54Z) |
| 01:40 |
whitephoenix |
in minecraft modding competitions are a thing, maybe I'll host one for minetest |
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Allycat007 |
How do I protect an area? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix ItemStack method call for keys. 4f32fd2 https://git.io/v1IZ1 (2016-11-27T18:26:31-08:00) |
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kaeza |
o/ |
| 02:57 |
ShadowNinja |
Hello kaeza o/ |
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garywhite |
Hi ShadowNinja |
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longerstaff13 |
o/ |
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kaeza |
hm. it seems for some reason OpenGL programs stop working after a while rarely, and only a reboot seems to fix it :( |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
right now chrome and dengine are dead :( |
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Allycat007 |
Can I send screenshots from here? |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
post the screenshot on some image site like picpaste or imgur |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
then give the link here. |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
or post them on the forum "screenshots" thread. |
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garywhite |
That's why I use IRCCloud, if I upload a screenshot to IRC, all I have to do is click upload a file, select the screenshot, and then it does all the stuff for me |
| 05:16 |
kaeza |
ah good old M-x upload-image |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
also some random commits to mt-mods/irc, in case anybody interested |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
nothing critical this time ;) |
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Allycat007 |
Hai! |
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Hijiri |
hi |
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KikaRz |
Hey there |
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MinetestBot |
[git] juhdanad -> minetest/minetest: Limit light_source in the engine (#4814) 2fe3bf5 https://git.io/v1Iwn (2016-11-28T18:43:33+10:00) |
| 08:49 |
KikaRz |
The moment we kill Windows XP by only selecting the option 'Align to grid' on Visual Basic 6.0. |
| 08:49 |
KikaRz |
When I say killing Windows XP, it's about blue screen. |
| 09:09 |
KikaRz |
Is my battery good? I've been working with a virtual machine on my computer with Windows XP since 8h30AM and now it's 9h08AM, and it's still 87% |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Make Your Own Head Day! 😃 |
| 09:50 |
KikaRz |
Good morning JamesTait! |
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Axord |
I'm amazed that that day is a thing. |
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Persi[m] |
What does making your own head entail? |
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JamesTait |
👋 KikaRz. |
| 10:42 |
KikaRz |
JamesTait. |
| 10:43 |
JamesTait |
Axord, Persi[m] - I strongly suspect this is only actually celebrated by some obscure art school somewhere, or was maybe a one-off even at a primary school. 😠|
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Calinou |
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Calinou |
he must be perfect for CTF, he'll build a wall around the flag for sure |
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Axord |
JamesTait: quite possibly. |
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est31 |
Calinou: and he'll make the other team pay for the wall |
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est31 |
and claim the game is rigged |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Allow restricting detached inventories to one player c389858 https://git.io/v1IpR (2016-11-28T13:41:19+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest_game: Avoid "leaking" creative inventories to other players 04f0451 https://git.io/v1Ipi (2016-11-28T13:43:02+01:00) |
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Fixer |
compiling time / maaaaaaaaaake a mooooooove |
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| 17:22 |
minitest |
hello |
| 17:22 |
garywhite |
Hello |
| 17:22 |
minitest |
can i ask something? ive lost the hability to build some things |
| 17:22 |
minitest |
how can I see whats wrong? |
| 17:23 |
minitest |
i cant craft a hoe |
| 17:24 |
minitest |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Hoe#Crafting |
| 17:24 |
minitest |
may be is a conflict with some mod? |
| 17:24 |
minitest |
i cant also build buckets |
| 17:24 |
minitest |
bit strange |
| 17:24 |
Wayward_One |
what subgame are you using? |
| 17:26 |
minitest |
none |
| 17:26 |
Wayward_One |
hmm... any extra mods? |
| 17:26 |
minitest |
yes various ones |
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Wayward_One |
it could very well be a mod conflict then |
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minitest2 |
sorry got dc |
| 17:37 |
minitest2 |
most probably is a mod conflict |
| 17:37 |
minitest2 |
but there are modpacks that have confirmed to not have those kind of conflicts? |
| 17:38 |
minitest2 |
another issue is that i find my computer lags a lot and have so much write access on hd from time to time |
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minitest2 |
it freezes my computer |
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minitest2 |
even without any mod installed |
| 17:41 |
minitest2 |
or active |
| 17:41 |
minitest2 |
and one of those computers is not low end |
| 17:46 |
Wayward_One |
huh, that could be many things... have you tried tweaking the settings (perhaps view range?) and/or making sure you didn't accidentally press "R"? |
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minitest2 |
r? |
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minitest2 |
it happens even being inside a cave |
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sfan5 |
is your hardware broken maybe? |
| 17:58 |
minitest2 |
well i run more complex games in one of my two computers |
| 17:58 |
minitest2 |
only this one makes it get that choppy |
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minitest2 |
it seems to be periodical |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi |
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Krock |
hi OOC |
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Fixer |
Wuzzy: is not people actually use bags apart from unified inventory? or those are different bags? |
| 19:12 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: minetest-bags |
| 19:12 |
Fixer |
it is called |
| 19:13 |
Wuzzy |
???? |
| 19:13 |
Wuzzy |
Can someone translate this to English, please? xd |
| 19:14 |
Wuzzy |
Fixed: Bags are hardcoded in Unified Inventory. |
| 19:14 |
Wuzzy |
Fixer: Bags are hardcoded in Unified Inventory. |
| 19:14 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-bags people already use this as separate bugs |
| 19:14 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-bags people already use this as separate bugs |
| 19:15 |
Wuzzy |
but there is no way to use UI without bags (w/o modifications, of course) |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
Wuzzy doesn't like that I won't separate bags out from UI :P |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
But are the bags in that link up-to-date? |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
But are the bags in that link up-to-date? |
| 19:16 |
Wuzzy |
this is my point. There is only Unified Inventory AND bags |
| 19:16 |
Wuzzy |
you have to get everything AND the kitchen sink |
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Krock |
yeah, you usually get that when buying a house. Nice gift |
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Wuzzy |
lol |
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| 19:18 |
Wuzzy |
imagine a crafting guide mod healing all players every second |
| 19:18 |
Wuzzy |
thats how it feels to me that UI gives you bags |
| 19:18 |
Wuzzy |
xD |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
you can't disable bags? |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
at leaast disable |
| 19:18 |
Wuzzy |
nope, thats the point |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
for survival |
| 19:19 |
Wuzzy |
nope nope nope, no can't do |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
you can disable it |
| 19:19 |
Fixer |
i agree that we should have option to disable bags for survival servers |
| 19:19 |
Wuzzy |
I mean without hacking source code |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
mv bags.lua bags.lua.tmp; touch bags.lua |
| 19:19 |
Wuzzy |
haha very funny |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
this is not "hacking". :P |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
I'm serious |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
> <Wuzzy>imagine a crafting guide mod healing all players every second |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
that's all you have to do. |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
sounds more like you buy a house and get a free lake nearby |
| 19:19 |
nm0i |
"hacking source code" <- dude, it's lua |
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sofar |
unified inventory is mostly obsolete with sfinv |
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sofar |
if not entirely |
| 19:19 |
Wuzzy |
uuhhhh ... WHAT? |
| 19:20 |
Wuzzy |
Does sfinf have a crafting guide? |
| 19:20 |
Krock |
it's an addon to the default crafting formspec |
| 19:20 |
Krock |
allows to add tabs and so on |
| 19:20 |
Wuzzy |
... |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
what makes UI not obsolete is if you happen to like the layout and generally how it works. |
| 19:20 |
Wuzzy |
so ... no |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
(i.e. you can't obsolete "style" so much) |
| 19:20 |
Wuzzy |
I agree |
| 19:20 |
Wuzzy |
UI is not made obsolete by sfinv unless I overlooked somethig |
| 19:21 |
Wuzzy |
also, sfinv is a Minetest Game-only thing as far i know |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
I thought there's a standalone mod |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
!mod sfinv |
| 19:21 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Could not find anything. |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
mhmm no |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
it's mt_game, yes |
| 19:21 |
Wuzzy |
:( |
| 19:21 |
Wuzzy |
i mean, its not bat that it is in Minetest Game |
| 19:21 |
sofar |
just need someone to make a craft guide mod that builds on sfinv |
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sofar |
and change 3d armor to do so as well |
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sofar |
and make bags a separate mod that uses sfinv as well |
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sofar |
I'm sure kilbith's craftguide can easily plug in it |
| 19:22 |
Wuzzy |
well nobody has made a perfect crafting guide so far, so... good luck |
| 19:22 |
Wuzzy |
all crafting guides so far are broken |
| 19:23 |
Wuzzy |
some guides are just less broken |
| 19:23 |
Wuzzy |
and UI's crafting guide is the least broken crafting guide. IOW it is currently the best (unless i overlooked one) :-) |
| 19:24 |
Wuzzy |
sadly, many subgames just lazily plug in zcg, but this one is horribly outdated |
| 19:24 |
Wuzzy |
i mean, zcg was great when it was new, but it has surpassed since then |
| 19:24 |
Wuzzy |
the biggest bummer about zcg is that is does not show result count... very frustrating |
| 19:25 |
Wuzzy |
PS: VanessaE: Stop assuming everyone who uses Minetest is a programmer. :P |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
running two commands requires programming skills? :P |
| 19:26 |
Wuzzy |
VanessaE: No. But knowing WHICH commands to run and why does. Also, you assuming unixoid systems for no reason |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
I assume a unix-ish system because I don't know what commands to suggest to windows users :P |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
"remove bags.lua. replace it with an empty file." |
| 19:27 |
Wuzzy |
yeah right. screw those dumb windows users. who needs them anyway xD |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
leave it up to the user to figure out how to implement those two directives. if they can't, they shouldn't be using a computer to start with. |
| 19:27 |
Wuzzy |
i cant remember where you wrote down those instructions. :P |
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* fireglow |
facepalm |
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* VanessaE |
facepalms too |
| 19:28 |
Wuzzy |
why |
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| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
dude. seriously. |
| 19:29 |
Wuzzy |
average joe can NOT know automagically that bags.lua must be removed. its not obvious without looking into source code first. so: no lua skills = no clue |
| 19:29 |
fireglow |
Wuzzy see query |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
by that same metric, average joe can't know how to disable a mod via the main menu, either. |
| 19:30 |
Wuzzy |
wtf? |
| 19:30 |
fireglow |
lol that's totally the same, yeah |
| 19:30 |
Wuzzy |
you are now comparing knowing Lua with using Minetest... wtf |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
instructions are instructions, whether they're written on IRC, in a github issue, or in some documentation/README (that the user won't read anyway). |
| 19:30 |
Wuzzy |
hahahahaha IRC |
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fireglow |
always with the assumptions |
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Wuzzy |
README sounds good |
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Wuzzy |
"I won't write a manual because nobody won't read it†↠nice excuse for crappy documentation :P I think my former “boss†(lol) would have LOVED to hear this excuse |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
in any case, the most I would be willing to do is add a minetest.conf atom that can be used to turn off bags. maybe. |
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| 19:33 |
fireglow |
that is why I've stopped using your mods, VanessaE |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 19:33 |
Wuzzy |
yay for minetest.conf. ps if you're just too lazy to do the mod split: I already did it for you but you still rejected it ... i still dont know why :( |
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Fixer |
._. |
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VanessaE |
Wuzzy: because there's already at least one other bags mod out there. It doesn't make sense to fork it off (versus adding a "disable" option). |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
especially since it was probably brought IN from cornernote's mod anyway |
| 19:34 |
Wuzzy |
that other bags mod is incompatible with UI, of course |
| 19:35 |
Wuzzy |
or we could make the author of the original mod convince to add optional UI depenency mode ^_° |
| 19:35 |
Wuzzy |
or is the original mod dead? |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
idk. |
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Fixer |
no, people use it on servers, i've seen |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
cornernotes one |
| 19:38 |
Wuzzy |
ps: my hbhunger and hbarmor mods are also just basically forks from parts of the code of BlockMen's old [hud] mod |
| 19:38 |
Wuzzy |
and people apparenty take no issue with it |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: some people still use that fucking outdated mod |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
which works like CRAP |
| 19:38 |
Wuzzy |
true :( |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
i repeat to them every time about it |
| 19:39 |
Wuzzy |
i have even reported a critical bug |
| 19:39 |
Wuzzy |
but BlockMen is gone |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
fix the huuuuuuuuuud, update your hudbars, this one gives RANDOM readings |
| 19:39 |
Wuzzy |
what whaaaaat |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
after my login I have full armor, after relogin 0.7 armor, then no armor, then something else |
| 19:39 |
Wuzzy |
my hudbars mod gives RANDOM reasons??? |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
no |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
blockmens one |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
your one works |
| 19:40 |
Wuzzy |
:-) |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
blockmens has stuck foodbar, stuck armor bar, bubble problems |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
it is not working properly |
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Wuzzy |
and if you hate progress bars you can turn on BlockMen nostalgia mode in hudbars :-) |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
they are big |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
i prefer icons |
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Wuzzy |
the gray statbar background is (was?) maybe #1 selling point of [hud] |
| 19:41 |
Wuzzy |
IMO background should go into core, it is so important |
| 19:41 |
Wuzzy |
because humans can barely count to 10 with a single look |
| 19:42 |
Wuzzy |
well at least *I* cant do it with a single look :D |
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Wuzzy |
(before I start spreading rumors) |
| 19:43 |
Wuzzy |
Fixer: You are right. Maybe I should make sure that statbar mode of my mod has bigger icons |
| 19:43 |
Wuzzy |
i think this may even be possible with current Minetest |
| 19:43 |
Wuzzy |
oh boy, so many thiings to do with minetest |
| 19:43 |
Wuzzy |
lol |
| 19:43 |
Wuzzy |
another thing on my endless todo lists xD |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
i like small icons tbh %) |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
craplet users will also like it |
| 19:45 |
Wuzzy |
another setting it is ... and another TODO list entry... omg xD |
| 19:45 |
Wuzzy |
but wait... |
| 19:45 |
Wuzzy |
shouldnt statbar icons scale automatically anyway? |
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Fixer |
no idea |
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VanessaE |
Wuzzy: there. |
| 19:45 |
Wuzzy |
thereby making such a setting unneccessary |
| 19:46 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/commit/e6c380d8c5c0451dd18402de642bcd8f9ad521db |
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sofar |
hah |
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sofar |
s/user/server operator/ |
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sofar |
but sure |
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Wuzzy |
Yay for VanessaE. thx |
| 19:47 |
VanessaE |
sofar: worded as if singleplayer. |
| 19:47 |
Wuzzy |
sofar: You DO realize this means bags are now disabled by default, right? |
| 19:47 |
Wuzzy |
should definietely announce b/c relevant to modders which depended on UI's bags |
| 19:47 |
VanessaE |
enabled by default. |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
read as bugs are disabled by default |
| 19:48 |
Wuzzy |
? am I stupid ?? |
| 19:48 |
VanessaE |
(that's why I expressly checked for false) |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
minetest.setting_getbool("unified_inventory_bags") ~= false then |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
right |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
~= means NOT? |
| 19:48 |
Wuzzy |
yes |
| 19:48 |
Wuzzy |
no |
| 19:48 |
Wuzzy |
it means "unequal to" |
| 19:48 |
Wuzzy |
"not" means not |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
right |
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sofar |
unset -> setting_getbool returns false |
| 19:49 |
Wuzzy |
argh!!! |
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Wuzzy |
i AM stupid |
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Wuzzy |
lol |
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sofar |
humans are terrible at logic |
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VanessaE |
unset, it returns nil :P |
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sofar |
you're not stupid, wuzzy |
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Wuzzy |
sofar: it was not logic, it was me forgetting setting_getbool |
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Wuzzy |
oops VanessaE is right |
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Wuzzy |
Why are bags enabled by default? :P |
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Wuzzy |
fears of breaking mod compability? |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
%$&#*(!$#%^&!~*$%@#^!&~*%$#@!~ |
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Wuzzy |
:D |
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Wuzzy |
ok if many users are for keeping bags as default i shut up |
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VanessaE |
rule of least surprise. |
| 19:53 |
VanessaE |
i.e. don't change existing behavior without the user's express permission. |
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Wuzzy |
IOW, dont break stuff |
| 19:53 |
Wuzzy |
yes, you are right. its not really changable at this stage :( |
| 19:54 |
Wuzzy |
and yes, disabling this WILL break mods (ok, just very few, dont worry). including mine!! hahaha, i should fix them |
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Wuzzy |
btw: Sorry for all the trouble. :-( I just wanted to add my design thoughts. |
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VanessaE |
sorry to be so stubborn |
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Wuzzy |
:D |
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Fixer |
i've just tested unified inventory, bugs enabled as they should |
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Fixer |
bafs |
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Fixer |
bags |
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Wuzzy |
IMO all mods should have a setting for disabling bugs. It should be enabled by default and would make life much easier. :D |
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Out`Of`Control |
bug disable you |
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VanessaE |
only in soviet russia |
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Fixer |
bugs enable you |
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Wuzzy |
In Soviet Russia, Fixer gets fixed. |
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agaran |
Fixer, bugs, bags, whats the difference ;) |
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Fixer |
or sheep vs ship |
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octacian |
garywhite: I do not agree with your suggestion of MTAA. Google and Discord are far more unsecure than IRC, plus, MT is FOSS project and should take place in the open |
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garywhite |
octacian: It's still in the very early stages, we will change things once we at least have a few members |
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agaran |
minetest could have sort of optimized block load when player is falling down thru shaft.. |
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agaran |
so it does not send mapblock range away on sides of shaft.. |
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octacian |
garywhite: not to be a downer, but I don't think there will really be any members. Not me anyways :D. google and discord is very unsecure, and since MT is an open source project, devs should do things in the open. |
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octacian |
On the other hand, if you want some kind of a network for server admins, that's more reasonable, and I can help with it. Google and Discord are not the way though, IRC is. A IRC channel can be created that is invite only, and there are very low chances that someone would actually attempt to hack it. |
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octacian |
garywhite: you should really consider using Linux... specifically Ubuntu |
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octacian |
also, for secure messaging, check out OTR (https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/) and PGP (pretty good privacy). |
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garywhite |
octacian: You're right. I haven't actually set up anything yet aside from the link in the forum post, so I can change whatever. It'd be best to do it your way, I'd welcome your help if you'd be willing. Also, my PC has some sort of UEFI garbage on it |
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octacian |
garywhite: hey, one of my friends was just fighting with that, but figured it out. |
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octacian |
(I think anyways) |
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garywhite |
Plus my parents won't let me install Linux on my PC, so I'm using Windows 7 which is fine |
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octacian |
ohk |
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octacian |
that's sad... xD |
| 21:16 |
octacian |
lel myself, I just did it. |
| 21:16 |
garywhite |
But I did manage to run a Linux VM on my laptop |
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octacian |
(what I mean, is one day, I just got tired of windows and installed Ubuntu) |
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octacian |
ok |
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octacian |
really though, I don't quite understand the use in such a group for even server administrators. |
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garywhite |
ok, I'm dropping the Discord, I may keep Google just because my signup form is through that, so maybe just as a backup I may use that for management stuff, but probably not the Google Group |
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octacian |
yeah, Google for signup form and all is still great. |
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AcidNinjaFWHR |
go get an xmpp address somewhere :) i.e. riseup.net |
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octacian |
-ish :rotfl: I could set up form on own server as well, once I understand use of such a group for server admins in first place |
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garywhite |
ok, I get it, it's a stupid idea to start with |
| 21:20 |
octacian |
garywhite: hmm not trying to say it's stupid, just don't quite understand how it could be useful. |
| 21:20 |
garywhite |
If you have any suggestions on what I should do to change it, they'd be very welcome, otherwise I'll just shut it down |
| 21:21 |
garywhite |
& I'm not saying you said it's stupid, but now anyone who sees the post basically says there's no point, so it is pretty much stupid |
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octacian |
You might find it interesting to join my IRC. Donillo, is a pro with GPG, PGP, OTR, and whatnot. not so much with windows though.. lol. I honestly do see some use in a place for server admins to discuss things, but yeah |
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agaran |
for secure stuff, look at http://hackaday.com/2016/11/28/neutralizing-intels-management-engine/ |
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octacian |
garywhite: ok, TBH, I must say that right now, the idea is not really useful directly. However, something that could be useful is a section for server admins to ask questions about issues. Maybe a post on the forum. but please don't think idea is stupid, else I'm gonna feel really bad all day for making you think so :rotfl: |
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octacian |
agaran: I gotta do that soon.. wait a second though. Is the management engine on ASUS motherboards? IK it was on old thinkpad, but, IDK about new tower |
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agaran |
it is/was on any intel chipset since quite long |
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agaran |
and you can't turn that simply off.. |
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octacian |
IK. Some guy has been getting after me to remove that for months. Will have to do more research |
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Fixer |
Wuzzy: what is fate of your autogrant fly in creative? |
| 21:56 |
Wuzzy |
?????????????? |
| 21:56 |
Wuzzy |
nothing...??? |
| 21:57 |
Fixer |
or maybe that was not you... |
| 21:57 |
Wuzzy |
there are no autogrant in creative at ALL |
| 21:57 |
Wuzzy |
no privs are granted based on creative mode |
| 21:57 |
Fixer |
somebody aasked to do it |
| 21:58 |
Fixer |
actually that is good idea to have fly in creative |
| 21:58 |
Fixer |
without doing /grantme all |
| 21:59 |
Fixer |
Wuzzy: have you thinked about improving tsm_mines gen speed somehow? last time I checked it, it was quite heavy with max_lag shooting high |
| 22:01 |
Wuzzy |
i dont care much about tsm_mines. it is very old, based on an even older mod. I have thought of maybe merging it into tsm_railcorridors one day |
| 22:01 |
Wuzzy |
cuz i dislike two distinct mods for rather similar things |
| 22:02 |
Wuzzy |
the main reason I made tsm_mines is to add treasurer support to the old mines mod. this goal has been achieved long ago. but for the mapgen itself... uh-oh. xD |
| 22:03 |
Wuzzy |
but tsm_railcorridors and tsm_pyramids may get more love from me one day. esp. mapgen. i personalyl like the ideas more |
| 22:03 |
Wuzzy |
but i have other priorities. Hedgewars, Documentation System, everyday stuff, etc. |
| 22:03 |
Wuzzy |
and ranting about other people's mods XD |
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garywhite |
octacian: I'm redoing it, it will just be a private IRC channel to start, we'll work out anything else (if anything) at a later date |
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DI3HARD139 |
dang it! I lost illuna's irc channel |
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garywhite |
I never had illuna's IRC channel |
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garywhite |
octacian: I changed it, if you reference the forum thread |
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Allycat007 |
Hai random humans |
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