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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-09-18

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00:31 YvesLevier Hey.  Does someone know how to dig arol please?
00:36 YvesLevier ok i found.  Was using an Alatro pickaxe.  It works with an iron pickaxe.  Have fun playing :)
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06:20 davey_ hello
06:21 davey_ anyone here?
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06:29 davey_ hello
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06:32 davey_ *sigh* so quiet on all the servers
06:32 celeron55 hi 8)
06:33 celeron55 it's quiet because everyone sleeps; i'm making some breakfast now
06:33 davey_ i know
06:34 celeron55 eastern europe wakes up soon
06:34 davey_ yeah, i've got some friends over in Europe
06:34 davey_ waiting for them to rise and shine XD
06:36 Markow Good morning from Central Europe ;)
06:37 davey_ good morning to you (or is it night?) from the American East Coast
06:42 Markow I'm actually originally from USA's East Coast, New York City, living in Europe for the past 14 years. ;)
06:42 davey_ cool
06:43 davey_ i've lived here all of my life
06:43 davey_ i've never actually been out of my own time zone XD
06:45 Markow ;)
06:46 * davey_ wonders why he always is awake this late
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07:59 agaran valleys mg can generate huge caverns..
08:04 agaran is mg kind and seed enough to reproduce cave layout?
08:05 LNJ2GO Yes, normally it is.
08:06 agaran well because even with full view range I barelly can see torches on oposide side on less wide dimension..
08:09 LNJ2GO so ... torches will be generated?
08:09 agaran no.. I placed them
08:09 agaran and went to oposite wall then even with full view range I barelly can see them as dots
08:13 agaran valles 126732125062050991484 if anyone likes to try, and position is -210,-400,-70
08:13 agaran well position can be +/- 50 units..
08:19 cheapie Does anybody know of any servers with working traffic lights (aside from VanessaE's)? I'm trying to see if anyone else has worked with them, and therefore what I can learn from their work.
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08:26 cheapie There has to be /something/ /somewhere/...
08:27 agaran I have no idea
08:29 agaran http://wstaw.org/h/3cae51e5b6c/
08:31 * cheapie tries yet another promising-sounding one from the server list
08:31 cheapie And the server promptly crashes :P
08:34 Krock crashes for free!
08:37 cheapie I did end up finding one running some ancient versions of some of my mods, so that was slightly interesting.
08:38 LNJ2GO https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4526 - my first PR for minetest
08:39 agaran now I know why drow were building cities in caves.. this one would fit well
08:40 cheapie LNJ2GO: Looks good to me (but it's not up to me :P)
08:41 LNJ2GO :D
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08:47 agaran over 1k torches and still only few spots are light up..
08:48 agaran crazy map
08:52 Krock //pos1
08:52 Krock //pos2
08:52 Krock //set default:torch
08:52 agaran Krock: no worldedit enabled.. but saw screenshot ?
08:53 Krock heh, that's a huge cave
08:53 agaran it is bigger than it is on screen.. I wasn't even in middle..
08:54 agaran thats first cave where I feel need for travelnet intra-cave system..
08:56 cheapie Well, I found a random survival server with some primitive industry, but no signs of even as much as LuaC use.
08:57 agaran http://wstaw.org/h/2d5cfb2bfcc/
08:58 agaran Krock: one could build quite some piece of city..
08:59 Krock yeah but you see the problem.. it's too dark
08:59 agaran well with enough torches it will be better (well enough may be tricky to make..)
08:59 Krock that's either the mgv5,7 or valleys cave style
08:59 agaran valleys
09:01 Krock the small valleys-hype here made mgv5 quite unused. too bad, it's a great mapgen :(
09:02 agaran well I never saw mgv5..
09:02 agaran I was always playing with v6, but now.. valleys won
09:02 agaran I like undergrounds and this is so good.. just need 'fake sun' mod
09:03 agaran or eddible mushrooms that can be grown under ground..
09:03 Krock you couldn't cheat and use the light level 15 anymore :(
09:03 Krock (which is used for sun)
09:03 agaran yes, I know I saw commit
09:08 cheapie Huh, I found another server that has lots of mesecons stuff installed, as well as roads and such.
09:08 agaran you can look at Megaf's for example
09:08 cheapie It also has an "information kiosk" at the spawn with firmware copied from the one I wrote :P
09:11 XeonSquared Cleanest way to store 4096 frequently accessed ints in a node?
09:14 agaran depends how frequently..
09:14 agaran generally metadata but, if you update meta it gets send to client..
09:15 XeonSquared About once a second.
09:17 agaran I would probably think about storing them in module, and sync-to-metadata once in while.. and on server shutdown..
09:17 agaran but if you put 4096 ints in node, and fill each node in block like that you will make engine have problems..
09:22 XeonSquared Figured as much.
09:22 agaran I am refering to problems that were occuring on IhrFussel's server..
09:23 agaran mapblocks that after compression were taking 50+ kb in database were causing quite much lagging when anyone got into those nodes
09:33 XeonSquared would it be a good idea to just leave it in RAM until the server shuts down and load it into memory on start?
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10:05 XeonSquared Does file access work as usual for mods?
10:13 XeonSquared How does one go about finding the path of the minetest dir?
10:13 XeonSquared (From a mod)
10:13 agaran local netpath = minetest.get_worldpath() .. '/' .. minetest.get_current_modname() .. '_nets.txt'
10:15 XeonSquared ohok, world path
10:15 XeonSquared much saner
10:15 XeonSquared many thanks
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10:31 IhrFussel Does sqlite's busy_timeout value make sure even if the database is locked right now the entry will be inserted as soon as it's open again?
10:34 IhrFussel I mean does sqlite poll the DB status until the value is reached?
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11:32 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Clarify format of --geometry in README ae9321d https://git.io/viX6w (2016-09-18T13:32:26+02:00)
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12:34 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Fix getting MapBlocks for abs(z) > 2048 with sqlite3 backend (fixed #31) 4db3040 https://git.io/viXXG (2016-09-18T14:33:13+02:00)
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15:10 namach hi again!! i am looking for a good hardcore pvp chaos/anarchy server (no silly teleporting and easy stuff). All suggestions are appreciated
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15:14 celeron55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD1TVZ47xZY
15:16 Krock !server chaos
15:16 MinetestBot Krock: more info http://sss.chaoslab.ru/node/396 | sss.chaoslab.ru:30013 | Clients: 0/50, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 111ms
15:16 Krock ^ namach
15:17 Krock lol
15:17 Krock "I hate Lua" sounds somewhat weird
15:17 namach will try it, thanks\
15:17 Krock A lovely Minetest Commercial. Best one I've seen so far (and the only one)
15:18 namach about lua: it is weird (at least for me)
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15:18 Krock no no, Lua is great and logical
15:19 Krock celeron55, 0:30 to 0:41 could be cut out IMO
15:20 namach Krock: lua is usable only by people who have some knowledge of coding
15:21 Krock Lua is like the most simple language out there that does not base on a graphical IDE
15:21 namach i don't argue with that
15:21 Krock can't or won't?
15:21 namach that chaos server says "blah blah wrong version" the version of my client is the same
15:22 Krock lol.. I haven't tested the server at all
15:22 namach !server anarchy
15:22 MinetestBot namach: Absolute Anarchy | minetesthosting.com:30246 | Clients: 3/4, 2/3 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 106ms
15:22 Krock 75% filled, even 100% when the owner isn't online
15:23 namach !server pvp
15:23 MinetestBot namach: Switchboard PVP made by yngwie123 | rrhgameservers.ddns.net:48257 | Clients: 39/100, 35/56 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / switchboardpvp | Ping: 88ms
15:23 celeron55 Krock: what? the video is obviously perfect d8)
15:23 namach Krock: were you talking about the chaos server?
15:23 Krock celeron55, you could make it even better :)
15:23 Krock namach, "<Krock>lol.. I haven't tested the server at all" -> that one: yes.
15:24 namach cool... you don't have to test it ;)
15:24 celeron55 i mean, if somebody actually wants a minetest commercial, i could cut it however they want it
15:24 celeron55 but this one is cut just the way i wanted
15:25 Krock are you going to put it on the website? :P
15:25 namach first there should something more behind the commercial ;) the lag issues of the game remain unsolved in the most servers
15:25 celeron55 Krock: no; some other people like tweaking the website more than me
15:26 Krock too bad :(
15:26 celeron55 well obviously it can be put there if people want it to be
15:26 celeron55 i'm here just to make jokes about myself
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15:30 celeron55 or, really, about absolutely everything; if something sticks, then it might turn out to be useful as something other than a joke
15:34 celeron55 to get overly philosophical, everything is a joke to me until i notice that i have ended up building my life on top of a joke... and after that i also become part of the joke
15:34 celeron55 a world view as good as any
15:35 Krock life is a joke. bad joke. life sucks. bye.
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15:40 Calinou "Life sucks, then you die, big deal." -OpenArena bot
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15:43 celeron55 life doesn't suck for the exact reason that it is a joke
15:44 bulldozer where are subtitles
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16:06 Megaf !server Megaf
16:06 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
16:06 Megaf Oo
16:06 Megaf !server Megaf
16:06 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
16:06 Megaf !server Calinou
16:06 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
16:06 Megaf ok then
16:06 Megaf celeron55: nice airplane like video
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16:08 Megaf sfan5: ping
16:10 sfan5 Megaf: pong
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16:10 Megaf sfan5: something wrong with !server
16:10 Megaf !server Megaf
16:10 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 5/20, 5/5 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 9ms
16:10 sfan5 yes
16:10 Megaf oh, its back now
16:10 Megaf nevermind
16:10 sfan5 here's a tip: if it's not on the server list then it's not on !server
16:11 Megaf sfan5: it is on the server list... and so is Calinou's server
16:11 Megaf hm, maybe not his server
16:11 Calinou Megaf: it's in your favorites probbly
16:11 Calinou I shut my server down
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16:12 agaran Calinou: permanently?
16:12 Calinou yeah, I still have a copy of the world
16:13 Calinou too many kids :P
16:13 agaran I can see point..
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16:48 Megaf !server Megaf
16:48 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 5/20, 4/5 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
16:49 Megaf one kid there :P
16:49 Megaf agaran: two if you join
16:49 Megaf (just kidding, lol)
16:50 Megaf Calinou: yep, not everyone can keep a server for 4+ years free from kids and griefers
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17:07 Megaf !server Megaf
17:07 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 7/20, 4/7 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
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17:26 agaran Megaf: lol;)
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17:32 Megaf !server Megaf
17:32 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 6/20, 5/7 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
17:34 Megaf !seen VanessaA
17:34 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen vanessaa around.
17:34 Megaf !seen VanessA
17:34 MinetestBot Megaf: vanessa was last seen at 2014-12-07 18:20:47 UTC on #minetest
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19:15 YvesLevier What does the encrusting_upgrade do please?
19:19 YvesLevier Same question about minegeld notes...
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19:24 sapier hello, can someone tell me if there has been any change regarding to global lua variables the last about half a year?
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22:12 everamzah i just typed /set font_size = 20 in-game and it crashed haha
22:13 everamzah er, /set font_size 20
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