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agaran |
nice change, varying burnntimes depend on wood type |
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agaran |
morning Krock |
06:48 |
Krock |
morning agaran |
06:49 |
agaran |
Building anything on IhrFussel's server? |
06:51 |
Krock |
yeah, right after checking through the forums |
06:52 |
Krock |
but I have no plan what exactly to build yet |
06:52 |
agaran |
heh, I am still digging down and farming some food underground |
06:52 |
agaran |
is there any limit of group count per node? |
06:52 |
Krock |
the railway would be a very nice thing but the areas are dimension and not volume limited |
06:53 |
Krock |
yeah but that limit is the server memory |
06:53 |
Krock |
so you could put very, very, very damn many groups into a node |
06:53 |
agaran |
well I mean more for my mod, if I should hardcode nodenames to some calls or better groups so it can be expanded later |
06:54 |
Krock |
do you mean something like a node registering helper function? |
06:55 |
Krock |
didn't understand your situation/question well |
06:55 |
agaran |
not really, there are functions which can operate only on certain nodes, like wire-nodes, and I wonder if it is better to add group my_wires=1, and be able to select them this way, then my_double_wires for ones that have double wire arrangement etc.. or keep it simpler |
06:56 |
agaran |
I am not sure if I understand myself well too |
06:56 |
Krock |
yes, for that case it's better to use groups |
06:57 |
agaran |
So some code might need a touch.. |
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agaran |
meh.. just discovered that table.insert does actually appending.. right? |
07:46 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, please rename the command /infos to /info in the english context because there are no information>s< :P |
07:47 |
Krock |
agaran, it rather inserts, as the name says, because you can specify the position where it should insert the value |
07:50 |
agaran |
hmm.. then I messed up code somehow |
07:51 |
agaran |
Krock: any example as wiki has only function name? |
07:51 |
agaran |
ok found in mods..:) |
07:52 |
agaran |
or not |
07:53 |
Krock |
so.. found or not? |
07:53 |
agaran |
nope |
07:53 |
agaran |
so far all uses have 2 arguments, table to insert to, and value to add.. |
07:54 |
Krock |
well, I don't really see what you're doing |
07:54 |
agaran |
I want to make code that sometimes appends sometimes prepends result table with next row |
07:54 |
agaran |
(depend if row should be favoured or not) |
07:55 |
Krock |
with table.insert you can insert it in any place of the array |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Never postpone action_on or action_off 95fedc8 https://git.io/viOgy (2016-09-04T09:50:30+02:00) |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add Hawk777 to contributor list, update developer documentation URL 433778c https://git.io/viOgS (2016-09-04T09:32:41+02:00) |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Duplicate unhash_blockpos code to legacy.lua 54efc64 https://git.io/viOg9 (2016-08-31T08:46:11+02:00) |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Remove some long unused legacy code dfeb070 https://git.io/viOgH (2016-08-30T20:54:20+02:00) |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Small cleanups in `internal.lua`, move forceloading reversal to legacy 6dacdae https://git.io/viOgQ (2016-08-30T19:37:43+02:00) |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Greatly improve performance by making use of VoxelManips in turnoff e561be7 https://git.io/viOg7 (2016-08-30T19:12:09+02:00) |
07:55 |
Krock |
lel |
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Krock |
sfan5 ! |
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Krock |
<3 MinetestBot |
07:56 |
MinetestBot |
<3 Krock |
07:56 |
Jeija |
With all those commits to mesecons, bring up the bug reports! |
07:56 |
Krock |
wohoo, fresh bugs :) |
07:57 |
Jeija |
I just merged a development branch into master. Expect bugs, but also great performance and reliability improvements. |
07:57 |
agaran |
fresh delicious bugs? |
07:58 |
Krock |
you must report them before eating when you found one |
07:58 |
agaran |
aww... I report bugs @ work.. ;) |
07:58 |
Jeija |
You have 1-2 weeks time before a new release will be pushed out to debian ^^ |
07:59 |
* agaran |
works as QA.. |
07:59 |
Krock |
agaran, QA? |
07:59 |
agaran |
Krock: if you get example how table.insert can be used to put data at any pos let me know |
07:59 |
agaran |
quality assurance.. |
07:59 |
Krock |
well, I don't care about debian xD |
08:00 |
agaran |
for software.. |
08:00 |
agaran |
well I use debian, but I don't use any minetest packages for mods |
08:00 |
Krock |
sounds interesting |
08:00 |
Krock |
finding and roating bugs at work |
08:00 |
agaran |
Krock: not overly.. if you report same bug third time.. as somebody failed to port 1.0 fixes to 2.0.. |
08:01 |
Krock |
but then you can find the bugs faster xP |
08:01 |
agaran |
yes, though they don't get any less annoying |
08:02 |
Krock |
then make an appeal to those who update the projects |
08:02 |
agaran |
it sounds so easy ;) |
08:03 |
Krock |
it can't be that a bug must be fixed two or three times |
08:03 |
Krock |
git for the win! |
08:03 |
agaran |
heh.. |
08:04 |
sfan5 |
Krock: MinetestBot recovers from that usually |
08:04 |
sfan5 |
maybe i should just add a rate limit |
08:04 |
Krock |
sfan5, yeah, usually. Thus I wanted to make sure and ping you additionally even when not neccessarly |
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Krock |
wow nice. IhrFusse1's server already contains this interact lock feature |
08:09 |
agaran |
Krock: good, hack code works, if you find example how to use table.insert with arbitrary pos I'll fix it again :) |
08:09 |
Krock |
didn't expect that it would be added so fast |
08:09 |
agaran |
Krock: yup, we were testing it yesterday.. |
08:09 |
agaran |
Krock: IhrFussel is quick to implement nice stuff.. |
08:10 |
agaran |
Krock: and my code goal was that path-walker for cable stuff favours straight way leaving stubs for second pass.. less retry-repeat situations |
08:11 |
Krock |
google and duckduckgo are great ways to find examples :P |
08:13 |
agaran |
lets see |
08:14 |
agaran |
right, example (unexplained) from rubenwardy's book did work |
08:14 |
agaran |
but table.insert(tab,row) does append imo.. |
08:14 |
Krock |
eww. unexplained |
08:15 |
Krock |
you can pass another argument that specifies the position |
08:17 |
agaran |
yep, and if you use 2 argument version it act as append.. |
08:17 |
Krock |
yes |
08:18 |
agaran |
thx, that leads to some improvements in code |
08:20 |
Krock |
nom nom. cheeze |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
09:11 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, chat command fixed...if a player types /infos it will automatically remove the s at the end too (backwards compatibility) |
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Megaf |
Good morning everyone |
09:11 |
Krock |
^^ nice |
09:11 |
Krock |
moin Megaf |
09:13 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: you could do abm that replaces all legacy fire blocks with air.. |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, I never worked with ABMs... |
09:27 |
agaran |
I can write you example, and it is safe, it simply remove them when loaded then it won't fire as blocks won't exist anymore.. |
09:27 |
agaran |
I was using them to upgrade my cables in mod-in-progress |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_abm am I right in assuming I just need to change "group:lava" in fire:basic_flame and inside set_node() I replace with air? |
09:30 |
agaran |
you have an example in priv, yes something like that |
09:30 |
agaran |
that was my upgrade routine when I changed naming of nodes |
09:30 |
agaran |
to not need dig 100+ nodes then place again |
09:31 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, can I remove the neighbor option? |
09:31 |
agaran |
see my example.. you don't need neighbor.. |
09:32 |
IhrFussel |
Oh you sent a PM haha I didn't see |
09:33 |
agaran |
yep |
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IhrFussel |
Okay done, should work after restart |
09:36 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, by the way did removing the shops increase server performance? |
09:36 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: i did not find any problems yet, you may in spare time do copy of db, then do on copy that query checking how much blocks sizes decreased |
09:37 |
agaran |
but seems better do on copy as it is quite slowing down server otherwise |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, I will copy the DB file later, last year I corrupted an antire world by backing up while running |
09:43 |
IhrFussel |
entire* |
09:43 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: ouch, sure, |
09:44 |
IhrFussel |
The people I asked told me it was safe to copy world files while running |
09:44 |
agaran |
I would say same but.. |
09:45 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: someday I noticed that person logged out was still mentioned as 'afk' |
09:50 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, that can happen when the engine disconnects the peer unexpectedly and the player is still online in /status as "unknown" |
09:51 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, there was a time when it happened almost every hour to a player..later I found out the max objects per mapblock was the problem...it was too low |
09:51 |
agaran |
ah I see |
09:52 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, I'm already on a new "idle detection system" ... the chat should already mention now when a player is idle for 30 minutes |
09:53 |
agaran |
heh.. I'd like to see elevators or such.. or travelnets but thats /me |
09:54 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, I can look at those mods and probably implement them if they aren't too heavy |
09:54 |
agaran |
travelnets are nice (by sokomine), |
10:01 |
IhrFussel |
minetest.get_objects_inside_radius(pos, radius) <<< what does "radius" refer to? |
10:01 |
IhrFussel |
Mapblocks or nodes? |
10:02 |
agaran |
not sure |
10:08 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, lua_api.txt says " * `radius`: using an euclidean metric" |
10:08 |
agaran |
I'd assume it is nodes.. but I would check it in singlemode.. |
10:08 |
IhrFussel |
Euclidean metric??? I never heard of that |
10:09 |
agaran |
metric spaces are quite much math concept.. |
10:09 |
agaran |
you can define metric space where unity cube is same shape as unity sphere.. |
10:09 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, euclidean is straight-line wikipedia says |
10:09 |
agaran |
yep |
10:09 |
agaran |
not sure how that will be rounded as it will return non integer distances too |
10:09 |
IhrFussel |
Then it must refer to nodes |
10:10 |
agaran |
you are implementing new features? |
10:11 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, no I'm checking the smartshop code and saw a radius of 2 inside the update function |
10:11 |
agaran |
it checks for those spawned entieties which are display.. |
10:12 |
agaran |
I saw different shops that don't spawn such.. |
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IhrFussel |
Well I could simply comment the register_entity() function or not? |
10:13 |
agaran |
I doubt.. I tried reading that code but I don't understand it |
10:14 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, the radius is in meter |
10:14 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, there are no meters in Minetest AFAIK..so nodes? |
10:14 |
Krock |
1 node = 1x1x1 m |
10:15 |
Krock |
your player is 1.8 nodes big, so you can assume that the node is metric |
10:16 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, yes so from start of a node to its end = 1m |
10:16 |
Krock |
the distance to the entities is calculated with pythagoras (AFAIK), so you can use decimals too |
10:16 |
Krock |
yes |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, I barely know anything about maths so...lol |
10:19 |
Krock |
maths is important |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, I'd say + - * and / are important..maybe % too and fractions |
10:21 |
Krock |
x % y = (x / y - floor(x / y)) * y |
10:21 |
IhrFussel |
But most jobs don't require any higher math skill |
10:23 |
Krock |
I need it quite often which makes it easier to understand how the stuff works |
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Krock |
o/ Jordach |
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IhrFussel: 145 lag.. |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, so either the meta data is still being loaded or it is something else that causes the lags |
12:33 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: it happened only once tho.. otherwwise is nice |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, but there definitely seems to be a connection between lags and teleporting to cities..they mostly happen a bit after a player goes to a city |
12:35 |
agaran |
can be it was just after some person logging in |
12:35 |
IhrFussel |
But the player didn't teleport to a city? |
12:35 |
agaran |
dunno.. don't remember |
12:36 |
agaran |
no but might be starting at city too.. |
12:36 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, was it khoa? |
12:36 |
agaran |
no, |
12:36 |
IhrFussel |
Log says someone sent "modcity" 9 minutes ago |
12:36 |
agaran |
it was before that |
12:37 |
IhrFussel |
Hours before? |
12:37 |
agaran |
nope |
12:37 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: uptime was 8915.4 |
12:38 |
agaran |
log does not hold date/time.. |
12:40 |
IhrFussel |
Was the lag ~ 25 minutes ago? |
12:41 |
agaran |
could be like that |
12:41 |
IhrFussel |
2016-09-04 14:14:49: ACTION[Server]: HiGuy took smartshop:shop from the creative inventory. |
12:41 |
agaran |
btw farming stuff has silly bug, you can make grapevine grating out of stick but not junglewood sticks |
12:41 |
agaran |
before HiGuy joined |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
12:43 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
12:43 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, Valenia only joined and left a few minutes later again...so it must be about movement |
12:43 |
Megaf |
sfan5: can you add server uptime to that please? |
12:43 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: yes.. but then I observed 70s then 150s lag |
12:44 |
IhrFussel |
Yes it must be certain parts of the map that contain too much meta data...maybe the homedecor stuff is causing it |
12:44 |
Megaf |
!server Calinou |
12:44 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Calinou [Europe/Paris] (survival - minimal mods) | hugo.pro:30002 | Clients: 16/32, 14/20 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 12ms |
12:45 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: no clue |
12:46 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, there are lots of homedecor items that contain meta data...fridges, cabinets, ovens, microwaves...and more |
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agaran |
IhrFussel: I never used much homedecor only few base things |
12:50 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, but can meta data overload really cause 150s lag? I'm not sure |
12:51 |
agaran |
I doubt, hmm.. |
12:51 |
agaran |
using that sql you can find which block has most data.. then write code that inspect every node metadata.. |
12:53 |
aix |
ugh |
12:53 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, I have no clue how to translate the BLOB data into readable format..I already tried quote(data) and cast(data as TEXT) but I can't translate the values |
12:53 |
agaran |
noo.. |
12:53 |
aix |
how would i do a grep for something that sets the gravity lower as you go higher? |
12:53 |
aix |
should i grep for "gravity" ? |
12:53 |
agaran |
to translate <pos> to coordinates then write module which let you do in game /findmeta <pos> |
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agaran |
IhrFussel: again lagged.... but it might be worldEdit too |
13:03 |
Krock |
aix, player_set_physics or similar |
13:04 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, yes HiGuy is using WE right now... so after I translated the position from DB I just do local meta = minetest.get_meta({x=x, y=y, z=z}) meta:get_string() ? |
13:05 |
IhrFussel |
But then how do I get the string name for the value? Should be somewhere in the smartshop code right? |
13:05 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: yep, thats how I would do it |
13:05 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: i would try to dump whole meta.. |
13:05 |
agaran |
meta is table.. so you can iterate over too.. or dump |
13:05 |
agaran |
or I maybe don't get it |
13:07 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, meta is a table then but meta:get_string() should be just a value of the table... so you mean dump whole get_meta() function? |
13:10 |
agaran |
I would local meta = minetest.get_meta(pos); dump(meta) |
13:10 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: 341s lag.. |
13:10 |
Krock |
that would return userdata IIRC |
13:10 |
IhrFussel |
But where does dump() put the results? |
13:10 |
Krock |
into the terminal/debug.txt |
13:11 |
agaran |
minetest.debug(dump(meta)) |
13:11 |
Krock |
if you do print() |
13:11 |
agaran |
and dump makes it nicelly formated even if lenghty |
13:11 |
Krock |
unless it can't be dumped :P |
13:11 |
Krock |
better use dump on :to_table() |
13:12 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, get_meta(pos) returns a table or not? |
13:12 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, no because you can call get_meta(pos):get_string(...) and so on |
13:12 |
Krock |
it's an object |
13:13 |
IhrFussel |
So I put get_meta() into a variable and do variable:to_table() ? |
13:14 |
Krock |
no, you can call to_table() directly |
13:14 |
IhrFussel |
So to_table(metavar) |
13:14 |
Krock |
thing:get_stuff():convert_to():abs(), that's all possible |
13:15 |
Krock |
ading function call after another function call |
13:15 |
Krock |
so it would be print(dump(minetest.get_meta(pos):to_table())) |
13:15 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, i just want to dump the entire meta data of one node/position...is there an easier way? |
13:15 |
IhrFussel |
Oh that sounds simpler |
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Hi_to_all_ |
Hello |
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XeonSquared |
Horror show question: is there anything like bungeecord for Minetest? |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, this should work right? http://pastebin.com/he0NdDva |
13:26 |
Krock |
not sure about the regex expression but the other looks good |
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aix |
i need a good name for a new "lightning" game |
13:27 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I took the regex from chatcommands.lua /teleport command |
13:27 |
Krock |
aix, nodesbuster |
13:28 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, then it should work |
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Hi_to_all_ |
Aix What happened to your Old Name |
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Krock |
but it also will dump the inventory data |
13:29 |
aix |
My Old Name? |
13:29 |
aix |
What Do You Mean? |
13:29 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Lightning Geeks or something |
13:29 |
Krock |
*What do you Mean |
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aix |
Oh That One |
13:30 |
aix |
this is a gameid |
13:30 |
aix |
not a server name |
13:30 |
aix |
ya tart |
13:30 |
Hi_to_all_ |
LOL my Bad |
13:30 |
aix |
LOL Okay |
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Hi_to_all_ |
I'm joining DTAMedia |
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aix |
That's Awesome |
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Hi_to_all_ |
Bye for now :P |
13:35 |
aix |
so nodesbusters |
13:35 |
aix |
sounds awful |
13:36 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, Ghostbusters fan much? xP |
13:36 |
Krock |
mylittleponygame |
13:36 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, no. blockbuster |
13:36 |
FabulousGlory |
Guys, is there some kind of way to hook keyboard keys? |
13:36 |
Krock |
and the mythbusters aren't bad either |
13:37 |
Krock |
you can only read the WASD, USE and SPACE keys |
13:37 |
Krock |
oh, and shift too |
13:37 |
Krock |
if you want more in Lua, you'd have to modify the source |
13:37 |
FabulousGlory |
bah. |
13:38 |
FabulousGlory |
so keys are sent over the network if im right? |
13:38 |
IhrFussel |
But that would just be client-side I think |
13:50 |
Krock |
people don't know patience |
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Hi_to_all_ |
Aix just Roasted Krock |
13:52 |
Krock |
http://baconsizzling.com/ |
13:52 |
aix |
... |
13:52 |
Hi_to_all_ |
BACON |
13:52 |
bulldozer |
hello |
13:53 |
Hi_to_all_ |
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cbuwcRBtVFE/AAA... |
13:53 |
Hi_to_all_ |
FOOTBALLS |
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bulldozer |
AAA... |
13:54 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Oops wrong 1 |
13:54 |
Hi_to_all_ |
This is it |
13:54 |
Hi_to_all_ |
https://www.google.tt/search?q=barcelona&oq=Bar&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0j46l2.4215j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#scso=uid_6:566 |
13:54 |
Krock |
This is it (R) by Michael Jackson |
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Hi_to_all_ |
http://www.baconsizzling.com |
13:55 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Lol ITS Cool |
13:55 |
Krock |
you're using a samsung tablet with andriod and the chrome browser. You're coming from "Republic of Trinidad and Tobago" |
13:55 |
Krock |
*android |
13:56 |
bulldozer |
^ |
13:56 |
Krock |
google links provide quite much information |
13:56 |
bulldozer |
and you searched for "Bar" before you searched for "barcelona" |
13:57 |
Hi_to_all_ |
javascript:; |
13:57 |
Krock |
lol right |
13:57 |
Hi_to_all_ |
https://www.google.tt/search?client=tablet-android-samsung&ei=GijMV6nqGsu_eOewo6gP&q=jumpscare&oq=Jump&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.1.0i67k1l3j0i46i67k1j46i67k1l2j0i67k1.1719.7476.0.8845.18.12.0.1.1.0.269.2080.0j2j7.9.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..12.6.1210.3..0j46j0i13k1j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i46k1.uNBuZljDjgU |
13:58 |
Hi_to_all_ |
WHO LIKES JUMPSCARES |
13:58 |
Krock |
do you mean something like http://heeeeeeeey.com/ ? |
13:59 |
Krock |
or rather http://shafou.com/ ? |
13:59 |
Hi_to_all_ |
My God |
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Hi_to_all_ |
Shafou Dammit |
14:02 |
IhrFussel |
There is a better one..one sec |
14:02 |
IhrFussel |
https://akk.li/pics/anne/jpg |
14:02 |
IhrFussel |
But won't work on tablets I think |
14:03 |
Krock |
wasn't it anne.jpg ? |
14:03 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I think both works, Google says anne/jpg |
14:03 |
Krock |
maybe it redirects to the same |
14:03 |
bulldozer |
"doesn't contains" |
14:03 |
Krock |
I bet you haven't seen this one yet: http://partridgegetslucky.com/ |
14:04 |
Krock |
(better music and animations) |
14:09 |
* Megaf |
thinking about the next distro to test seriously for possible default desktop OS |
14:09 |
Megaf |
considering Mint, Mageia and OpenMandriva |
14:10 |
Megaf |
I want something that just works, and it's stable |
14:11 |
IhrFussel |
Well I'm using Xubuntu (Ubuntu + Xfce4) for 2 years now and I can't complain |
14:13 |
IhrFussel |
I tried Mint before but it seems like Mint doesn't support very old machines |
14:14 |
IhrFussel |
Okay "very old" is stretching it maybe... 2005 |
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Megaf |
I think I will just stick to Debian |
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Megaf |
my largest complain about Debian is that it takes ages to get a kernel update and I can't seem to compiled the kernel myself in current versions of Debian |
14:30 |
Megaf |
I was used to get the kernel source from kernel.org and configure it and build myself on Mandriva and Debian 6 and 7. But since Debian 8 I can no longer do that |
14:30 |
jomat |
and it uses systemd :( |
14:31 |
Calinou |
Megaf: how 'bout Fedora :P |
14:31 |
Megaf |
lol, not desktop friendly, tiny selection of packages on its repos |
14:32 |
agaran |
jomat: you can have debian8 without systemd, just need some work |
14:32 |
Megaf |
maybe I will just make my own OS and my own API... |
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Megaf |
no more wayland or X11 worries, or Qt vs GTK vs anything. Just use my API and everything will just work |
14:33 |
Megaf |
no worries about pulse, jack, oss or alsa, just use my API |
14:35 |
Calinou |
heard of RPMFusion? :P |
14:36 |
bulldozer |
fedora user here |
14:36 |
bulldozer |
(dual-booting with winblow$ 10) |
14:37 |
* Megaf |
doenst have Windows |
14:38 |
Megaf |
Linux is the only OS on my hardware for more than 10 years |
14:40 |
aix |
which way so players spawn facing? |
14:41 |
Calinou |
aix: I don't think it's enforced |
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aix: if its the first time on the server, north |
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aix |
thanks |
14:43 |
Megaf |
if they are teleported to spawn somehow, then usually the same way they were facing before being teleported |
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aix |
so i just reset my server's map |
14:52 |
Fixer |
winsuck$ 10 to be correct |
14:53 |
bulldozer |
^ |
14:55 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Hello |
14:55 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Megan am I muted on your server |
14:56 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Megaf* |
14:56 |
Megaf |
Hi Hi_to_all_ |
14:56 |
Megaf |
Hi_to_all_: what's you nick there? |
14:57 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Hi_to_all |
14:57 |
HonoredGlory |
this must be my friend, hi buddy |
14:57 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Joining in a minute |
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Megaf |
Hi_to_all_: you just din't have interact, granted you now |
14:59 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Ok |
14:59 |
Hi_to_all_ |
Looking For Mods |
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* Hi_to_all_ |
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15:03 |
Megaf |
curl http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd-weekly/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso > /dev/sdc |
15:03 |
Megaf |
Debian it is |
15:05 |
Megaf |
Hi_to_all_: I saw you... |
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Hi_to_all_ |
HI |
15:09 |
Megaf |
Hi |
15:09 |
Megaf |
I saw you there |
15:09 |
Megaf |
for seconds |
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Hi_to_all_ |
Yes I couldn't talk |
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Hi_to_all_ |
I have nothing to do so I'll be joining back |
15:27 |
Megaf |
"Privileges of Hi_to_all: fast home shout interact" |
15:27 |
Megaf |
you can speak |
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IhrFussel |
Hi_to_all_, on my server it's just spawn no / in front ... or /goto spawn |
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agaran, now it lags almost every minute again |
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agaran |
IhrFussel: for past 20 minutes Uni was using worldedit.. |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, I saw that I just can't always see when he uses it cause he can do it via UI not only commands xP |
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agaran |
;) |
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aix |
anyone seen Zeg9? |
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Krock |
!seen Zeg9 |
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Krock: zeg9 was last seen at 2014-06-11 18:45:28 UTC on #minetest |
16:27 |
Krock |
MTB did, yes |
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IhrFussel: can I get creative temporaly? |
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agaran, works? |
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IhrFussel: yep thanks |
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Megaf |
Hi all, finally back |
19:44 |
Megaf |
installed Debian Stretch with XFCE, good and bad |
19:44 |
Megaf |
if I stay away from minutes and XFCE locks itself it will be impossible to unlock, I have to kill the display manager and start it again |
19:47 |
agaran |
turn off xscreensaver? |
19:47 |
agaran |
I use xfce daily.. on debian8.. |
19:47 |
Megaf |
yep, it works fine on Debian 8, and it used to work fine on Debian 9 months ago, but that's what you get for using testing |
19:48 |
agaran |
oh well |
19:48 |
Elench |
What's the good? |
19:48 |
Megaf |
very fast, wifi, fn keys, brighness, OpenCL, VDPAU, everything works |
19:49 |
Megaf |
but bluetooth due to missing firmware, that I already got it |
19:51 |
Megaf |
Actually I'm suprized how fast it is, specially because I'm running it from a slow usb flash drive |
19:51 |
Elench |
Fast especially is good |
19:53 |
Megaf |
I don't know if it's becasue some trickery on Ext4 or what |
19:53 |
Megaf |
Maybe just caching a lot |
19:57 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
19:57 |
MinetestBot |
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Megaf |
And now I'm going to Debian Unstable/Experimental |
20:18 |
Megaf |
that will be fun |
20:18 |
Calinou |
have fun being looked at like a 12 year old by Debian Developers |
20:18 |
Calinou |
:| |
20:19 |
Megaf |
lol |
20:19 |
agaran |
Calinou: you say that I am 12 years old? yay.. finally young |
20:21 |
Megaf |
if you want to live dangerously in Debian here is a sources.list for you http://paste.debian.net/plain/808182 |
20:21 |
Megaf |
Calinou: I have 3 Debian installs in this latop, one stable, one testing and this one that will be unstable/experimental ;) |
20:21 |
Megaf |
the stable is for serious stuff |
20:22 |
Megaf |
the testing is mostly for gaming and multimedia, and this experimental for testing |
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Megaf |
btw, my server is on Debian Wheezy, 7 |
20:23 |
Calinou |
>Debian oldstable |
20:23 |
Calinou |
how can you... |
20:23 |
Calinou |
my Godot builds don't support Debian oldstable :) |
20:23 |
Megaf |
they should! |
20:23 |
Megaf |
oldstable FTW! |
20:23 |
Calinou |
Godot can build on Ubuntu 12.04 (so it can support Debian 7), but it's not worth it considering that it'll be EOL in 7 months |
20:24 |
Calinou |
so I build on 14.04 |
20:24 |
Megaf |
oh, squeeze is no longer supported |
20:24 |
Megaf |
Squeeze had benefited from Long Term Support (LTS) until the end of February 2016. The LTS was limited to i386 and amd64. For more information, please refer to the LTS section of Debian Wiki. |
20:25 |
Calinou |
good thing |
20:25 |
Megaf |
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
20:25 |
Calinou |
supporting software for an overly long time is a recipe for failure |
20:25 |
Calinou |
I'm pretty critical of Canoncial supporting Ubuntu LTS for 5 years already |
20:25 |
Calinou |
(3 years was fine, really) |
20:26 |
Megaf |
Windows XP from 2001 still kinda suported by MS, bia Windows Embeded thing, for ATMs and stuff |
20:27 |
Calinou |
yeah and that's BS |
20:27 |
Calinou |
it's broken beyond repair |
20:27 |
Megaf |
funny how they are creating new words for old stuff and making people buy. Like IoT that is just embedded stuff |
20:28 |
* Calinou |
doesn't believe in "if it ain't broken, don't fix it", software deserves innovation |
20:28 |
* Megaf |
partially agrees |
20:28 |
agaran |
not 'just' embeded.. they push internet to every damned thing.. |
20:28 |
Megaf |
decades ago there was a guy who ran NetBSD on a toast |
20:28 |
Megaf |
toaster* |
20:29 |
Megaf |
several years later with much more powerful microcontrollers a guy ran Linux on a toaster |
20:29 |
Megaf |
IoT before it was cool |
20:30 |
Fixer_ |
Megaf: you sure? I thought it was a joke |
20:31 |
agaran |
Fixer_: today some keyboards have 70MHz arm inside. not enough for linux but way more thanneeded for keyboard.. |
20:32 |
Megaf |
Fixer_: it was a joke, as lots of things on BSD and Linux world, but it was a functional joke |
20:32 |
Megaf |
here is the NetBSD toaster https://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-netbsd-toaster.php |
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Jordach |
Megaf, http://i.imgur.com/j4neSDA.png :( I think this issue is cause by Cycles not supporting >4GB cards |
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20:48 |
Megaf |
Jordach: oh |
20:48 |
Megaf |
is that your favourite render? |
20:48 |
Jordach |
or Polaris needing a different version of OpenCL |
20:49 |
Megaf |
OpenCL, hm |
20:49 |
Jordach |
nothing mentioned in the blender 2.78 builds either |
20:50 |
Megaf |
almost finishing the first stage of the upgrade to experimental here :) |
20:51 |
Megaf |
I will install blender and see how it works later, I have OpenCL |
20:51 |
Megaf |
support by GPU |
20:52 |
Megaf |
OpenCL info for this laptop http://paste.debian.net/plain/808215 |
20:52 |
Jordach |
mfw i can run RX12, Vulkan games, but not blender |
20:52 |
Jordach |
DX12* |
20:54 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
20:54 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
20:54 |
Megaf |
that was a quick repply from the bot |
20:54 |
Jordach |
considering she's in London, no dobut |
20:55 |
Megaf |
Ok, will reboot to Unstable now, that's my first stage of upgrade, if everything goes well, I will join again here and then "upgrade" to experimental |
20:55 |
Megaf |
cya |
20:57 |
Megaf |
back |
20:57 |
Megaf |
than went well |
21:01 |
Megaf |
Jordach: what's the version of blender you have there? And where did that Render come from? |
21:01 |
Jordach |
Megaf, standard scene with a sky texture added |
21:17 |
Megaf |
I wish there was a way to set a giant disk buffer and to make writes to disk as not often as possible |
21:17 |
Megaf |
my USB flash is very slow to write... |
21:17 |
Megaf |
IO Wait is huge |
21:19 |
Fixer_ |
after updating my ff to 47 now i got random freezes |
21:19 |
* Megaf |
broke Debian by going to experimental (that was kinda expected) |
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Megaf |
Jordach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOSa_09i9oM |
21:23 |
Megaf |
!title |
21:23 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Real Face of Jesus from the Shroud of Turin - new DVD available - YouTube |
21:23 |
Jordach |
ufuckinwotm7 |
21:24 |
Megaf |
Jordach: they say there was 3D info there |
21:24 |
Megaf |
hold on |
21:25 |
Megaf |
Jordach: here, https://youtu.be/nOSa_09i9oM?t=156 |
21:25 |
Megaf |
that part is interesting |
21:26 |
Megaf |
just watch for 30 seconds... |
21:26 |
Jordach |
just did |
21:26 |
Jordach |
reminds me |
21:27 |
luke4378 |
.,. |
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luke4378 |
,-, |
21:30 |
Megaf |
I wonder, assumind Jesus was real, and Mary was virgin, it if it was a miracle, and not a genetic accident. Where the genetic information that made Jesus came from? |
21:31 |
* Jordach |
is suspicious that higher powers exist |
21:31 |
luke4378 |
:P |
21:31 |
Jordach |
there are times where my heart was at failure point and didn't kill me, nor the times i should have been hit by high speed vehicles |
21:32 |
* Megaf |
was supposed to have died lots of times too |
21:32 |
Megaf |
from birth until now, |
21:32 |
Jordach |
meanwhile, trump got blessed by a goddamn bishop - something's going on |
21:33 |
Megaf |
I actually badly damaged a car when I crashed with my body into it at 60+ Km/h when I was going downhill with my bike |
21:33 |
luke4378 |
.,. |
21:33 |
luke4378 |
dang |
21:33 |
Megaf |
broke the windshield with my head |
21:33 |
Megaf |
not s single fractured bone |
21:33 |
Megaf |
not a * |
21:33 |
Megaf |
just small cuts |
21:34 |
luke4378 |
,-, |
21:34 |
Megaf |
was wearing helmet, but still, 60 Km/h is 60 Km/h |
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luke4378 |
hello ,-, |
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Hello luke |
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GUNSHIP |
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YvesLevier |
About pipeworks deployer. The item i push in it stays in Deplyer first rank. So then even a try to deploy a sequence of objets, ony the first it receive will be deployed. As if i didnt understand how to stack diff objects to get realised. Have a clue about what i didnt catch? |
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Bref i dont figure why a deployed cube stays in deployer inventory |
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YvesLevier |
I dot it using a delayed filtor injector. |
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YvesLevier |
node detect dont seem to work with carts. Is there a detector rail? |
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Volkj |
hi, using /give singleplayer cobble 10000 i get 10k cobble, however trying 70k gave me about 4k cobble, is that overflowing? |
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Volkj |
got it, over 65536 using /give it gives number - 65536 |
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Megaf |
Hey Someguy123 |
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YvesLevier |
Carts : Look as impossible to detect. I also tried with solar panels and carts are transparent as glass. |
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Megaf |
^^ |
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Megaf |
Someguy123: I join some channels you do too, #android ##hardware #git #bitcoin #minetest |
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Megaf |
and we both play Minetest |
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YvesLevier |
Then : Carts are not considered as nodes, transparent and there is no detector rail... |
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Someguy123 |
hi Megaf |
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Someguy123 |
well okay |
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Megaf |
YvesLevier: hm, I'm sure there is a way |
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YvesLevier |
Megaf: Thx to reply. I would expect so, but how? |
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YvesLevier |
Im thinking about a sheep generator then if cart hit a sheep i suck wool with pipeworks then i know a cart passed there |
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YvesLevier |
means im stuck |
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YvesLevier |
brb 10 mins |