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redblade |
I'm getting slowness and 500 errors when i'm trying to use Krock's mod search |
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redblade |
i'm getting access denied errors now |
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redblade |
sometimes it works sometimes not |
03:58 |
redblade |
so...everyone's copyrighting everything? |
03:58 |
redblade |
from public domain to open source |
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04:00 |
XeonSquared |
Does Opaque Water improve performance? |
04:00 |
redblade |
is krock here? i forgot his irc username |
04:01 |
redblade |
cause his mod search page keeps crapping out |
04:02 |
Chinchou |
redblade, copyright is "automatic" in some jurisdictions. Licensing is done to prevent ambiguities. If you don't care to keep copyright, CC0 and the like are useful - "public domain" is interpreted differently in different places, and some do not even acknowledge public domain. |
04:03 |
redblade |
yes that's what i mean, cc0 and wtfpl |
04:03 |
redblade |
public domain if possible, otherwise a license fallback |
04:04 |
redblade |
but meaning switching to open source licenses which is copyrighted, is everyone doing that because of the abuse? |
04:04 |
redblade |
by the adware clones? |
04:05 |
Chinchou |
Once you've released something into public domain, there's no valid "taking it back". I'm not sure I understand what you mean. |
04:05 |
redblade |
if you make changes it becomes a derivative work |
04:05 |
Chinchou |
Yes. |
04:06 |
redblade |
so while the old github commit would be cc0/wtfpl by switching to mit you are copyrighting the new one |
04:06 |
redblade |
from then on |
04:06 |
Chinchou |
Well, that definition makes sense, but that's not always how it is in written laws |
04:06 |
redblade |
well everyone seems to be switching from public domain waivers to permissive copyright, i was just noticing that |
04:07 |
redblade |
for mods |
04:07 |
Chinchou |
Hmm... Are you talking about having a project under CC0 and then "changing" it to another license? |
04:07 |
redblade |
right now i'm updating my server to 0.4.14-dev because of tree griefers, and i'm updating my mods too, and noticing that |
04:07 |
redblade |
not exactly |
04:07 |
Chinchou |
Things like CC0 can't be revoked, at least in some jurisdictions. |
04:07 |
redblade |
the previous work remains public domain |
04:07 |
redblade |
you cant revoke it |
04:08 |
Chinchou |
All this political bullshit drives me batty. |
04:08 |
redblade |
but if you make one change you can recopyright it |
04:08 |
redblade |
or someone else can |
04:08 |
Chinchou |
That depends on the jurisdiction. |
04:08 |
redblade |
which is what the adware clones are doing |
04:08 |
Chinchou |
That may be illegal. |
04:08 |
redblade |
which is my guess as to why everyone is making commits recopyrighting it and changing to open-source |
04:08 |
Chinchou |
Again, jurisdictions. |
04:08 |
redblade |
it's not illegal if it's public domain |
04:09 |
redblade |
or mimicking it (cc0) |
04:09 |
Chinchou |
... |
04:09 |
redblade |
public domain can be used for any purpose at all |
04:09 |
Chinchou |
Locally, one /cannot/ take something that is public domain and try to copyright it. |
04:09 |
Chinchou |
Other places may be different, but here that's not valid. |
04:09 |
redblade |
not true, what about all those printed books |
04:09 |
Chinchou |
Yes, true. |
04:09 |
Chinchou |
Like I said, "locally". |
04:09 |
redblade |
those are derivative works |
04:10 |
Chinchou |
Here, let me quote myself: |
04:10 |
Chinchou |
<Chinchou> That depends on the jurisdiction. |
04:10 |
redblade |
you can take graphics from a public domain mod and integrate it into your adware program and not give the original personc redit |
04:10 |
* Chinchou |
facepalms |
04:10 |
redblade |
open-source software is copyrighted and you have to follow the license |
04:10 |
Chinchou |
Exactly, that's what "public domain" is. |
04:11 |
redblade |
hey normally i'd love to debate all this stuff but i need to finish the upgrades and get a good night's sleep |
04:11 |
redblade |
seriously, i would |
04:11 |
Chinchou |
However, attempting to copyright something that is in the public domain is just as invalid here as it would be if you took something that is still under someone else's copyright and tried to claim that "this is now copyrighted to me". |
04:12 |
Chinchou |
I don't give a rat's ass about this political garbage. I know what I know out of necessity. |
04:16 |
Chinchou |
(I think the disconnect here is that you're talking about /using/ something that is public domain in a larger project that is copyrighted. Owning the copyright on the project doesn't make the public-domain art suddenly copyrighted, as that would be removing it from the public domain. Short version: Project is copyrighted, PD art is still not. That's why places like OpenGameArt are useful.) |
04:16 |
Chinchou |
Anyway, I have grapefruit to eat. |
04:17 |
Chinchou |
Delicious fruit is far more important than controlling others. *munch munch munch* |
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IhrFussel |
The quest for the cause of my mysterious lag spikes continues: Now I increased dedicated_server_step setting to 2.0 and I'm STILL getting more than 10 seconds lag after some hours |
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Krock |
is it noticeable by regular players? |
08:23 |
Krock |
btw, 2.0 is very slow IMO |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, it's just a test and yes others notice it...everything then stops for X seconds and suddenly the chat gets filled with up to 5 messages that were sent during the lag |
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Krock |
if you were using a Lua mapgen then I'd know the reason |
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IhrFussel |
I'm using v6 mapgen |
08:28 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, what I already tried so far: Disabled all mods (except areas mod) and enabled profiler..areas mod tops out at 15ms but it still lagged ... I increased ALL ABM intervals x 2 ... I removed some code from mods (but I'm pretty sure those are not the reason for the lags) |
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Krock |
and a disk issue is not possible? |
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IhrFussel |
How would I debug that on a v server? |
08:33 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, does iotop tell me that? minetestserver there doesn't go above 2% IO |
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Krock |
oh :/ |
08:36 |
IhrFussel |
Wait it spiked to 30% for a second there |
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jluc |
Hello |
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jluc |
there are various minetest android app |
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jluc |
which one should we install ? |
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jluc |
so as to play localy and possibly on a local network (with own intranet minetest 'server' tab) |
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Krock |
uhm.. the official one? It has the possibility to host a server, join one and play locally too. If it hasn't, it's not the official one |
09:01 |
IhrFussel |
jluc, download Minetest by dev (Loic nrz) |
09:05 |
jluc |
thanks IhrFussel |
09:06 |
jluc |
The "official one" is also "Loic nrz" one Krock ? |
09:06 |
Krock |
yes, like IhrFussel said |
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jluc |
ok thanks Krock |
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Krock |
I hope it's up to date |
09:07 |
Krock |
!next |
09:07 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
09:08 |
jluc |
my son asks for traps or kind of automatic mechanisms |
09:08 |
jluc |
does this exists, maybe with a mod ? |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, it's 0.4.14 stable since July yes |
09:08 |
Krock |
good |
09:08 |
jluc |
in a simple way |
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jluc |
(son is 7) |
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Calinou |
<Chinchou> Things like CC0 can't be revoked, at least in some jurisdictions. |
09:11 |
Calinou |
no free/open source license can be revoked |
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IhrFussel |
jluc, mesecons mod |
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IhrFussel |
But i doubt that's simple enough for a 7 yr old |
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09:24 |
jluc |
ok |
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IhrFussel |
jluc, mesecons are like redstones... you connect stuff and activate/deactivate it with switches/levers/blocks |
09:26 |
jluc |
my son probably saw that kind of stuff on minecraft and requests it for its minetest |
09:26 |
IhrFussel |
Blocks are nodes |
09:26 |
Krock |
blocks (MC) = nodes (MT) |
09:26 |
Krock |
(but not blocks = nodes) |
09:27 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, the average player doesn't understand the concept of nodes so I personally refer to them as blocks |
09:27 |
Krock |
because they're all used to the MC term |
09:28 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, most players also expect a "Minecraft-like" experience when playing Minetest I'd assume |
09:28 |
Krock |
hehe, me too |
09:29 |
IhrFussel |
At least 50 players asked me where to find redstone so far |
09:30 |
IhrFussel |
And 10 players wondered about there being no bedrock |
09:30 |
Krock |
colorize a stone red and refer to that one to prank them |
09:31 |
Krock |
>:D |
09:31 |
IhrFussel |
Red stone is red lightstone |
09:32 |
Krock |
huh? |
09:32 |
IhrFussel |
I mean I already have a "redstone" it's mesecons lightsone red |
09:32 |
IhrFussel |
lightstone* |
09:33 |
IhrFussel |
It even can glow when powered! |
09:33 |
Krock |
oh nice |
09:34 |
IhrFussel |
But I feel like players will hate me if I do that prank to them |
09:34 |
jluc |
mesecons.net look fun |
09:35 |
IhrFussel |
jluc, it is fun if you learned how to use it...that might take a while |
09:35 |
IhrFussel |
Even after 6 months now I still don't fully understand every behavior of mesecons |
09:38 |
jluc |
i see |
09:38 |
IhrFussel |
But it's fairly simple if all you want to do is powering a trapdoor via a switch or lever |
09:39 |
jluc |
is there a tutorial for such a trap lever ? |
09:40 |
IhrFussel |
I don't think so...you'd only have to place the mesecon wires at the trapdoor and then connect it to a lever attached to a node...that's all |
09:43 |
IhrFussel |
jluc, do you also want monsters in the game? |
09:44 |
jluc |
as for now my son doesnt ask for monsters, but he might want some once he has traps |
09:44 |
jluc |
IhrFussel you mention a "trapdoor" : is this a specific item ? |
09:45 |
IhrFussel |
I recommmend the mod "Mobs Redo" if you want to add monsters, it also contains animals... Trapdoors are part of the default game |
09:47 |
IhrFussel |
But you don't have to use traps...with mesecons you can activate a lot more automatically |
09:47 |
IhrFussel |
trapdoors* |
09:48 |
IhrFussel |
Mesecons mod also contains "ghoststone" which is a stone type that disappears/reappears when activated |
09:49 |
jluc |
as for mobs redo i find https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo |
09:49 |
IhrFussel |
Yes that's the one |
09:51 |
jluc |
it seems to be the "API" so is it required ? |
09:52 |
jluc |
monsters seems to be https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_monster and farm https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_animal |
09:52 |
IhrFussel |
jluc, no the mod contains an API to add more monsters in a simple way but the builtin monsters will work right out of the box |
09:56 |
jluc |
ok |
09:58 |
jluc |
https://github.com/sapier/animals_looks like another independant animals mod |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, if I create a new world and the server doesn't lag anymore...would it be a mapgen issue then? |
10:13 |
Krock |
no, v6 is stable and very fast |
10:14 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, and what could be the issue then? database? |
10:15 |
Krock |
I have no clue |
10:15 |
IhrFussel |
Well...I'll have to find out...my players will be like "Whaaaaat where is my stuff, did you reset the world" |
10:15 |
Krock |
I wouldn't be happy either |
10:16 |
Krock |
my house on your server: http://i.imgur.com/myZ8u0P.png |
10:16 |
IhrFussel |
But I'm just creating the test world to see if the lag persists...the old world will be used later again I'm just out of ideas |
10:19 |
jluc |
i've installed castle and mob_animals mods |
10:19 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, nice house...I just create the new world to finally be able to say "it is something with the world" or "it is something with the engine/my machine" |
10:19 |
jluc |
but they depend on other mods : farming, mobs, doors |
10:20 |
jluc |
which also depend on other mods... |
10:20 |
Krock |
farming and doors are contain in your installtion |
10:20 |
jluc |
do i have to install all these mods first untill all dependencies are satisfied ? |
10:20 |
jluc |
ah |
10:20 |
Krock |
yes, those with a tailing '?' are optional and not required |
10:22 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, what do I need again to create a new world in 0.4.14? I mean tro create one via command line |
10:22 |
Krock |
ugh |
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Krock |
good question. I never did that before. Maybe it's helpful to call --help |
10:24 |
IhrFussel |
--help doesn't help xD I think i need to create the directory plus some files inside worlds folder |
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Megaf |
!server MineDigger |
10:25 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: MineDiggerTestServer | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 5/50, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.14 / MineDigger | Ping: 8ms |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 9ms |
10:25 |
Megaf |
!server Calinou |
10:25 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Calinou [Europe/Paris] (survival - minimal mods) | hugo.pro:30002 | Clients: 10/32, 6/14 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 10ms |
10:27 |
jluc |
ok they're playing with castle mod now |
10:27 |
jluc |
wait and see if animals pop up |
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IhrFussel |
Umm does someone know how to create a world ONLY via command line? The forum says "set --world PATH/TO/WORLD/FOLDER" but then it says "Not available" |
10:41 |
Krock |
minetest --world new/world does not work? |
10:44 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, nope says "World "NAME" not available. Available worlds:" |
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IhrFussel |
What the...I just found out LazyJ wrote a blog post about my server and how he created the spawn tower there lol |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, oh I see I need to create the folder inside worlds then run "minetest --server --gameid ID --world path/to/world" |
10:51 |
jluc |
mobs_animals require "mobs" mod which is not a default mod |
10:52 |
IhrFussel |
mobs is Mobs Redo |
10:52 |
jluc |
ah ! the api mod ok |
10:53 |
jluc |
i thought it was another "mobs" named mod adding 5 monsters and 2 peacefull animals |
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IhrFussel |
jluc, sorry it seems like TenPlus1 changed the mobs mod...Mobs Redo only contains the API now and the other monsters are separated in other mods...but the Mobs Redo forum thread gives you the option to install the mobs mod with all monsters/animals included |
11:19 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, were you the one saying "sqlite3 VACUUM" could help with lag? |
11:19 |
Krock |
no, that wasn't me |
11:20 |
IhrFussel |
Is it safe to use it on a map.sqlite file? Do you know? |
11:20 |
Krock |
I never had enough players on my server to get these problems |
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IhrFussel |
I had 19,000 player files before I deleted inactive ones...now I have 13,000 again |
11:42 |
IhrFussel |
I still have no definitive answer to the question "does deleting player files reduce lag?" Someone on the forums said so |
11:42 |
IhrFussel |
But would that make sense? AFAIK the game doesn't touch player files of offline players |
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Megaf |
!up MineDigger |
11:56 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: invalid address |
11:56 |
Megaf |
!server MineDigger |
11:56 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: MineDiggerTestServer | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 2/50, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.14 / MineDigger | Ping: 8ms |
11:56 |
Megaf |
oh |
11:57 |
nm0i |
>.> |
11:57 |
Megaf |
nm0i: that' s one of the fastests servers to login/join |
11:57 |
Megaf |
if not the fastest |
11:57 |
nm0i |
Cobble only? |
11:58 |
nm0i |
:3 |
11:58 |
Megaf |
very funny you |
11:58 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
11:58 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
11:58 |
Megaf |
that's one of the slowests servers to login xP |
11:59 |
nm0i |
!server Light |
11:59 |
MinetestBot |
nm0i: Light creative | 178.79.185.175:30005 | Clients: 7/26, 4/8 | Version: 0.4.14 / stabilizer | Ping: 7ms |
11:59 |
nm0i |
That's one of ugliest servers to login |
11:59 |
nm0i |
Lego server probably beats it, though. |
12:11 |
Krock |
Megaf, and I thought that Vanessa's dreambuilder would be the lowest |
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Megaf |
Krock: empty your cache and compare |
12:34 |
Megaf |
but I'm pretty sure my server is very slow |
12:34 |
Krock |
I bet I couldn't even connect fully |
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Jordach |
Megaf, address? lemme test my fiber |
12:44 |
Jordach |
>tfw invalid password after three years of not being here |
12:44 |
Jordach |
>tfw you get it right |
12:44 |
Jordach |
Krock, i connect fine :) |
12:44 |
Krock |
Jordach, because your computer has an ocean as cooler |
12:45 |
Jordach |
modern hardware components that are reasonably high end |
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Megaf |
Jordach: try this one now |
12:50 |
Megaf |
!server MineDigger |
12:50 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: MineDiggerTestServer | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 0/50, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.14 / MineDigger | Ping: 7ms |
12:50 |
Jordach |
no port? |
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Megaf |
30000 |
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* Megaf |
is away |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy |
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CuriousErnestBro |
hi |
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Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=15389 approx. 306 words per post (average, without quotes) |
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Shit, there seem to be some pretty strong opinions about cursing on the forums... |
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rubenwardy |
mergine #4417 in 5 mins as two separate commits |
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rubenwardy |
s/ine/ing/ |
15:47 |
rubenwardy |
as the first commit is sending the name of the field enter was pressed in, and the second as allowing better formsepc prediction by not always closing the formspec on enter |
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Ronsor |
yay debian has minetest 0.4.14 |
15:58 |
Ronsor |
finally i can get off my old 0.4.13 |
15:58 |
Ronsor |
i also need to download the updated client |
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Ronsor |
rubenwardy: you should let 40 players onto the capture the flag server (or atleast 30) |
16:01 |
Ronsor |
its almost always full |
16:01 |
Ronsor |
(i use about ~10mb/player on my server) |
16:02 |
Ronsor |
upgrading minetest wont corrupt my map, right? |
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nolsen |
Ronsor: Why not just compile minetest from git? |
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IhrFussel |
!server IhrFussel |
16:35 |
MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: IhrFussel's Server | 81.169.215.250:25000 | Clients: 20/35, 10/23 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 16ms |
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rubenwardy |
Ronsor, too many for a small map |
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rubenwardy |
would be chaos |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
oh |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
i like chaos |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
lol |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
nolsen: because lazy |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
!server Ronsor |
16:58 |
MinetestBot |
Ronsor: No results |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
hrm |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
i forgot i delisted myself |
16:58 |
Ronsor |
because of griefers |
17:02 |
nolsen |
!server [TUSS] |
17:02 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: [TUSS] The Ultimate Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 1/20, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 155ms |
17:04 |
MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Allow fields to choose whether they close on enter press e10fee0 https://git.io/v6pNE (2016-08-27T13:05:01+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Submit name of field on enter key press 4330c63 https://git.io/v6pNu (2016-08-27T13:02:45+01:00) |
17:04 |
aix |
Ronsor: still friends with janice? |
17:05 |
aix |
and do you still run that online.net labs docker shop? |
17:05 |
aix |
the one with the poorly coded php app i think |
17:05 |
nolsen |
aix: janice the troll? |
17:05 |
aix |
j4jackj i believe |
17:05 |
nolsen |
oh, the troll. |
17:05 |
aix |
oh |
17:05 |
aix |
was he/she a troll? |
17:06 |
nolsen |
It's a 'he', I don't know why he calls himself a 'she'. |
17:06 |
aix |
... |
17:06 |
nolsen |
Damn SJW nonsense. |
17:06 |
aix |
^ |
17:06 |
aix |
j4trannyj |
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nolsen |
I SEXUALLY IDENTIFY AS A MINETEST |
17:06 |
Ronsor |
aix: lol |
17:06 |
nolsen |
My perferred pronouns are 'node' and 'ABM' |
17:07 |
Ronsor |
Ellenor is more tolerable now (janice) |
17:07 |
nolsen |
preferred* |
17:07 |
Ronsor |
also the poorly coded php app |
17:07 |
Ronsor |
that thing |
17:07 |
Ronsor |
yeah dont run that |
17:07 |
aix |
nolsen: LOL |
17:07 |
Ronsor |
aix: whoooareyouuuu? aix |
17:07 |
aix |
Ronsor: idontknooooooww! Ronsor |
17:07 |
nolsen |
Ronsor: More tolerable? |
17:07 |
nolsen |
He calls himself a she... |
17:07 |
Ronsor |
as in doesn't piss me off every other day |
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nolsen |
oh lol. |
17:08 |
nolsen |
Sometimes he goes into #freenode and goes 'fuck you', then leaves. |
17:08 |
Ronsor |
lol |
17:08 |
nolsen |
or ignores me. |
17:08 |
Ronsor |
i'm linked to jancie currently |
17:08 |
Ronsor |
yay ircds |
17:08 |
Ronsor |
too bad i've deprecated IRC |
17:08 |
Ronsor |
libtoxcore's where its at |
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17:09 |
nolsen |
#MakeMinetestGreatAgain |
17:09 |
nolsen |
When ABMs send their lua mapgen process, they're not sending their best. |
17:09 |
Ronsor |
or are they |
17:10 |
Ronsor |
all i know is that 50 mods arent enough |
17:10 |
Ronsor |
i need more |
17:10 |
nolsen |
They're bringing lag, they're bringing "messages about ABMs taking too long" |
17:11 |
nolsen |
So I will implement the TrumpABM. |
17:11 |
rubenwardy |
I don't get why people care what someone identifies with gender wise |
17:11 |
Ronsor |
oh no not trump |
17:11 |
nolsen |
Every time an ABM is too slow, it will deport that ABM. |
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17:12 |
nolsen |
rubenwardy: It's tumblr logic. |
17:12 |
nolsen |
SJW logic. |
17:13 |
Ronsor |
oh noes not tumblr |
17:13 |
Ronsor |
thats worse |
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nolsen |
Ronsor: I'm triggered now. |
17:14 |
* nolsen |
opens tumblr.com |
17:14 |
Ronsor |
crap triggered |
17:14 |
nolsen |
"Ronsor is a cisgendered, misafaiusbfa, ashufbesugberubgreyererygre, and needs to check his preevelege" |
17:15 |
Ronsor |
screw their privelege |
17:15 |
Ronsor |
/revoke SJW life |
17:15 |
Ronsor |
if you show signs of 'SJW' on my server, you will be banned |
17:15 |
Ronsor |
for "Disturbing the peace" |
17:15 |
nolsen |
Ronsor: I had a hillary supporter on my server. |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
OH LOLZ |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
i suggest tolling |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
*trolling |
17:16 |
nolsen |
He thinks hillary is a nice person. |
17:16 |
nolsen |
and very kind |
17:16 |
nolsen |
and trump is "evil" |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
LOL he cray cray |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
trump is "evil", but so is hillary |
17:16 |
Krock |
SJW as of Aug 26 4:00 PM ET Markets are closed |
17:16 |
Krock |
45.00 0.92 2.09% |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
its a moot point |
17:16 |
rubenwardy |
There are extremists on the side of every fence, but not everyone is extreme, most people are center |
17:16 |
Ronsor |
you need the least sucky option |
17:16 |
nolsen |
All trump did was said mean things, Hillary leaked emails, shit with bengahzi, wipe email server. |
17:16 |
nolsen |
used private server, etc. |
17:17 |
Ronsor |
ok |
17:17 |
Ronsor |
so trump is bad, Hillary is evil |
17:17 |
T4im |
rubenwardy: the extreme ones are louder though :( |
17:17 |
rubenwardy |
very true |
17:17 |
Ronsor |
what choice do we have? |
17:17 |
Ronsor |
"The loud minority" |
17:17 |
nolsen |
er, not leak emails |
17:18 |
* T4im |
wonders how a loud center would sound like |
17:18 |
nolsen |
I rather have a mean president, than someone who used a private email server, got people killed in benghazi, etc. |
17:18 |
Ronsor |
good point |
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Ronsor |
a loud center would loudly criticze both |
17:18 |
nolsen |
Oh, don't forgot the fact that she collected money from countries with horrible human rights record. |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
saudi arabia? |
17:19 |
nolsen |
Yes. |
17:19 |
T4im |
i think that can actually be something you can get people behind :P "you all suck" |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
figures |
17:19 |
nolsen |
and still believes that "Islam is a religion of peace" |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
not really |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
so much jihad |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
too much dead |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
or... |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
so jihad |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
much dead |
17:19 |
Ronsor |
wow bad |
17:19 |
rubenwardy |
Both candidates suck, it's just up for debate which one sucks less |
17:20 |
Ronsor |
^ |
17:20 |
nolsen |
And that's trump. |
17:20 |
T4im |
if the u.s. elects either of them, i won't be able to take them seriously anymore |
17:20 |
T4im |
:D |
17:20 |
Ronsor |
what choice is had? |
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nolsen |
Ronsor: Hillary. |
17:20 |
nolsen |
Hitlery* |
17:21 |
rubenwardy |
Trump is the one that hates certain races and wants to build walls, just saying |
17:21 |
nolsen |
rubenwardy: Well, we do need something about the mexico border. |
17:21 |
nolsen |
tbh, we don't need a "huge wall", we just need a border. |
17:21 |
nolsen |
or fences that actually do something. |
17:21 |
T4im |
don't you already have one? |
17:22 |
nolsen |
T4im: Not really, they just go through the holes in the fences. |
17:22 |
T4im |
at least to the south |
17:22 |
T4im |
not sure how your borders to canada look |
17:22 |
T4im |
perhaps those could be improved |
17:22 |
nolsen |
It's funny that muslims hate america, yet I am puzzled why are they are so desperate getting over here. |
17:22 |
nolsen |
Like the illegal immigrants. |
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rubenwardy |
T4im, like this, I've heard: http://www.washingtonstarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/US%20canada%20border%204.jpg |
17:23 |
T4im |
ah, so european style |
17:23 |
nolsen |
I don't recall jews trying to go Nazi Germany during WWII. |
17:24 |
rubenwardy |
I've heard that other parts of the border are two parallel roads with a ditch between, and pay phones to call border/immigrate for permission to cross |
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T4im |
perhaps canada should build one and make the u.s. pay for it :3 |
17:26 |
nolsen |
T4im: We don't illegal immigarte over there. |
17:26 |
nolsen |
afaik |
17:26 |
nolsen |
immigrate* |
17:26 |
sfan5 |
trump for president |
17:27 |
Krock |
make america derp again |
17:27 |
nolsen |
Make america memes again. |
17:27 |
nolsen |
Make america dank again. |
17:27 |
sfan5 |
do you feel the bern? |
17:27 |
nolsen |
Make hen...America great again. |
17:28 |
nolsen |
*lenny face goes here* |
17:28 |
Krock |
hen..? |
17:28 |
nolsen |
*too lazy to pull up firefox* |
17:28 |
nolsen |
*firefox is on my TV, playing anime :#* |
17:28 |
nolsen |
:3* |
17:28 |
Krock |
:3** * |
17:33 |
* Donald_J_Trump |
deports sfan5 back to the UK |
17:33 |
Donald_J_Trump |
er, wait. |
17:33 |
Donald_J_Trump |
I forgot. |
17:33 |
Donald_J_Trump |
the UK left the EU. |
17:33 |
Donald_J_Trump |
It's in space now. |
17:33 |
Donald_J_Trump |
floating around between the earth and the moon. |
17:33 |
T4im |
he's also not a ukanian |
17:33 |
T4im |
so far i know |
17:34 |
Jordach |
cheeki breeki |
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Ronsor |
i made lightning dangerous |
17:35 |
T4im |
:o |
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Donald_J_Trump |
#Make4chanGreatAgain |
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Jordach |
#MakeMinetestGreatAgain :^) |
17:42 |
Donald_J_Trump |
Jordach: We will build a firewall, and make the unofficial clients pay for it. |
17:42 |
Donald_J_Trump |
and low-end android device users. |
17:42 |
Jordach |
http://niceme.me |
17:42 |
Donald_J_Trump |
It will be renamed to "TrumpMine" |
17:43 |
Donald_J_Trump |
Changes the mountains to statues of trump's face. |
17:43 |
Donald_J_Trump |
Change the default skin to the "Poorly uneducated" |
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Volkj |
all names into Sadie |
17:44 |
Donald_J_Trump |
Volkj: Only for Rosie O'donald. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Drumpf |
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Billary_Clinton |
I did not have blockbuster and chill, with that women. |
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Nosrick |
t |
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Nosrick |
Hey! |
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Billary_Clinton |
Nosrick: Welcome to Taco Bell. |
18:03 |
Nosrick |
I'll have the ass-blaster special, please. |
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Billary_Clinton |
Nosrick: We don't have any food anymore, there is a wall built between the US and mexico. |
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Billary_Clinton |
er, I think I went too far. |
18:04 |
Nosrick |
Hahaha |
18:04 |
Nosrick |
No, you're fine. |
18:04 |
Billary_Clinton |
Their food is terrible, anyways. |
18:04 |
Nosrick |
I've never had it, to be honest. |
18:05 |
Billary_Clinton |
Their meat tastes like Hillary Clinton's chance of winning the presidency. |
18:05 |
Billary_Clinton |
Awful. |
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Billary_Clinton |
Awful as in the person actually has a chance. |
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Samson1 |
Does anyone have recommendations for Minetest docker images? |
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Samson1 |
(for a minetest server, to be clear) |
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Ronsor |
no |
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Ronsor |
i'd suggest just making your own |
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Ronsor |
it will be most up to date |
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agrecascino |
Nosrick, |
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Nosrick |
Hello! |
19:46 |
agrecascino |
crash |
19:46 |
Nosrick |
Is it my fault? |
19:46 |
agrecascino |
yes |
19:46 |
Nosrick |
Fug |
19:46 |
Nosrick |
When was the last time you updated? |
19:46 |
agrecascino |
like a few hours ago |
19:47 |
agrecascino |
ctcped you the traceback |
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Nosrick |
Cheers, will look into it. |
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aix |
https://sr.ht/WzRR.png |
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agrecascino |
Nosrick, |
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Nosrick |
Hello! |
20:17 |
Nosrick |
Crash? |
20:17 |
agrecascino |
no |
20:17 |
agrecascino |
what does starfires do? |
20:17 |
Nosrick |
Kills undead. |
20:17 |
Nosrick |
And chaos) |
20:17 |
Nosrick |
But there's no chaos yet. |
20:19 |
Nosrick |
I want to include a manual of some kind. |
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agrecascino |
what does cloak of fear do |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest_game: Add search on enter press to creative inventory 471d1cf https://git.io/v6hJr (2016-08-27T21:24:07+01:00) |
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arecascino |
sorry |
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Billary_Clinton |
lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyqJhCpHLqw |
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arecascino |
Billary_Clinton, what does this have to do with minetest |
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Billary_Clinton |
arecascino: You must be new. |
20:44 |
Billary_Clinton |
It doesn't have to be related to minetest. |
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Nosrick |
Oh, Cloak of Fear makes mobs run away (only works on MoM mobs so far), and makes players blind for a few secons. |
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Nosrick |
seconds* |
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Nosrick |
Actually, it might work on non-MoM mobs, now that I think about it. |
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What's the best mod that supplies a code editor? |
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rubenwardy |
Has anyone ever experimented with rotating players? Ie: so up is no longer (0,1,0) |
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rubenwardy |
What problems would there be if you rotated players? Would it just be collision selection boxes and ray casting? |
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rubenwardy |
I thinking of a gravity system, where you could have planets like moons etc |
23:55 |
rubenwardy |
and it would be cool for puzzle games |
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rubenwardy |
oops, wrong channel |
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