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Megaf |
Good morning folks! |
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Krock |
moin, Megaf |
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Megaf |
That's interesting, if I build Minetest without curl it will show download seed when loading media |
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Megaf |
if I build with curl it doesnt |
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everamzah |
Krock: https://github.com/everamzah/death_kick/blob/master/init.lua#L31 <-- no? |
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everamzah |
*scratches head* |
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| 11:21 |
Krock |
oh |
| 11:21 |
Krock |
haven't seen that part in the forum post, everamzah |
| 11:21 |
everamzah |
you're right tho, it's not exactly how i imagined it |
| 11:23 |
Krock |
can a player even die again after he hasn't respawned? I doubt it |
| 11:24 |
everamzah |
of course, have you never come back from being AFK and seen a line of "You died." all across the screen, so much so that you can't scroll bar far enough to read prior chat? |
| 11:24 |
everamzah |
that was the impetus, really |
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everamzah |
probably the hunger mod repeatedly subtracting HP |
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Volkj |
everamzah: that |
| 11:24 |
everamzah |
but if you're HP is 0, and you subtract more HP, you die even while dead |
| 11:24 |
everamzah |
ha |
| 11:24 |
Volkj |
https://github.com/BlockMen/hunger/pull/10 |
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everamzah |
oh ok, thx |
| 11:26 |
everamzah |
well i use this oddity (subtracting HP from dead player) to make a counter to kick if they don't respawn. weird haha |
| 11:26 |
everamzah |
thanks again for that link, Volkj |
| 11:26 |
Volkj |
there's a pull request in minetest to check if a player has hp before dealing damages |
| 11:26 |
everamzah |
ohh |
| 11:27 |
everamzah |
full disclosure, i just wanted to release a mod called "Death Kick" |
| 11:27 |
Volkj |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4127 |
| 11:28 |
Volkj |
the list of "player has dead for..." becomes spammy in the chat |
| 11:29 |
Volkj |
not that a death kick mod is useless, think about a player that wants to spam chat in creative ways |
| 11:29 |
everamzah |
indeed |
| 11:29 |
everamzah |
i mean, it is very spammy for me because i nearly always use the hunger mod |
| 11:29 |
everamzah |
and a death kick is also useful for players who die, hide their app, and forget about it for 12 hours |
| 11:30 |
Volkj |
i see it in the server i'm currently also |
| 11:30 |
Volkj |
wondering if it's possible to ban a player after it got kicked x times |
| 11:30 |
everamzah |
i just figured i'd use an ondie counter instead of traditional afk "has player pressed a key lately" method |
| 11:30 |
everamzah |
also hunger already has a "have player moved" mechanism, for draining hunger points as you move, iirc |
| 11:31 |
everamzah |
so it's almost already built into that, just need a kick if they haven't moved X minutes |
| 11:31 |
everamzah |
of course, then you can't idle and chat without worrying about afk kick, which is nasty |
| 11:31 |
everamzah |
or organize loot for 5 minutes, etc |
| 11:31 |
everamzah |
i think banning a player who got kicked X times is doable |
| 11:32 |
Volkj |
in your mod you use a table for kicking that keeps count of deaths, modifying that to track kicks is trivial. however, if the server crashes the values of the table are gone, so it would need to be stored |
| 11:34 |
everamzah |
well, it doesn't work as i expected, so i can play with it |
| 11:34 |
everamzah |
thanks again |
| 11:36 |
Volkj |
hunger mod? |
| 11:37 |
everamzah |
no, death_kick. i kicks less than 50 seconds sometimes. hunger mod i will try your patch |
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Volkj |
my patch for hunger mod was applied on a server but it seems to not work, however on a local server it seemed to work |
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everamzah |
oh ok, then i can play with that too :D |
| 11:37 |
Volkj |
server started from the server tab in minetest client, so not singleplayer game, tried with another client connected to localhost |
| 11:40 |
everamzah |
just a guess, but maybe it needs and player:get_hp() > 0, instead of hp > 0 |
| 11:40 |
everamzah |
i dunno this stuff whoosh o/ |
| 11:41 |
Volkj |
it seems that there's already an hp variable in scope https://github.com/volkj/hunger/blob/3e2210084f853737d1a290191237b657be44f135/functions.lua#L150 |
| 11:42 |
Volkj |
i added my edit at line 155 |
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burli |
1998: stop playing Pokenmon and go outside, 2016: stop playing Pokemon and come in |
| 11:51 |
Volkj |
2016: never stopped playing Pokemon :D |
| 11:51 |
burli |
hehe |
| 11:51 |
Volkj |
the battery of the cartridge, however, stopped :( |
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Calinou |
wow, new site: https://rocket.chat/ |
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Megaf |
whos site? |
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Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Rocket.Chat |
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Krock |
teamviewer 2.0? |
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Krock |
" JavaScript 38.4% CoffeeScript 36.0% " <- Calinou |
| 13:25 |
Krock |
it's totally web-based |
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Megaf |
I just triedi t out, terrible |
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Megaf |
tried* |
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Megaf |
IRC much more lighter and robust |
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Krock |
Megaf, but IRC doesn't have any voice, image or video transfer |
| 13:58 |
Megaf |
it depends on the client |
| 13:58 |
Megaf |
KVIRC have all those features for more than a decade |
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Megaf |
and actually, that's what DCC is for |
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Megaf |
CTCP and DCC can be very powerful, but only a handful of clients properly support them |
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Megaf |
reboot, brb |
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Megaf |
back :) |
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Megaf_ |
KVIrc even supports secure chat |
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Megaf_ |
stuff that only know is coming to things like whatsapp |
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Megaf_ |
this thing is so much ahead of it's time |
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Volkj |
isn't watshapp a proprietary XMPP client after all? |
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Krock |
yes, too much ahead. Okay, now let's continue talking with the common telegraphs |
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Megaf_ |
Volkj: No idea |
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Taoki[mobile] |
I use KVirc for years, very happy with it |
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Taoki[mobile] |
Mostly got it cuz avatar support |
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Megaf |
heh |
| 14:36 |
Megaf |
I can't use it here, due to a KDE bug, it will alway put the volume output to the max every single time it plays any sound |
| 14:36 |
Megaf |
So I'm using Quassel |
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Megaf |
Quassel and KVIrc are the best IRC clients in my opinion, they are different from all others and both have unique features |
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Calinou |
Quassel is cool |
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Calinou |
it's what I'm using right now |
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Taoki[mobile] |
I use KDE too. No KVirc bugs here |
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Taoki[mobile] |
*Plasma 5 |
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Megaf |
I wish GNOME had a light theme instead of the black one, or better, I wish it could change from light to dark theme acording to the time/light |
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Taoki[mobile] |
I wish VNOME had a way to reposition the taskbar :p |
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Taoki[mobile] |
Gnome |
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Megaf |
and change the size of title bars and panels |
| 15:04 |
Megaf |
basically we want gnome to be, gnome... |
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Megaf |
the good old gnome 2 |
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Megaf |
all the goodness of gnome3 without removing the features in gnome 2 |
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Megaf |
KDE 4/5 did a great job in reimplementing a lot of the good things KDE 3 had |
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* Taoki[mobile] |
loves kde, especialky since 5 |
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Megaf |
I couldn't try KDE 5 yet, I think Debian Stretch only has the 4 |
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Megaf |
4.96 |
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Taoki[mobile] |
Ok. Opensuse Tumbleweed here |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 10ms |
| 15:12 |
Calinou |
the GNOME you want is called Xfce :P |
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Calinou |
Taoki[mobile]: KDE is still slow at gaming though (when the compositor isn't suspended) :/ |
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Taoki[mobile] |
Calinou: It's slow when you don't disable its one great evil: Baloo |
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everamzah |
anyone else run a system-wide install and experience: 2016-07-16 09:10:48: WARNING[Main]: Could not load icon file '/usr/local/share/minetest/misc/minetest-xorg-icon-128.png' |
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Calinou |
everamzah: ask est31 about it, he implemented Linux icon support |
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everamzah |
ok i pinged him here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/5d4d3f8366b74d9c3da892d94188defc49407ebf#commitcomment-18271629 |
| 16:19 |
Volkj |
why is using /usr/local ? |
| 16:20 |
everamzah |
i always do system-wide install, never run in place |
| 16:20 |
everamzah |
unless i am testing on stable 0.4.14 |
| 16:21 |
everamzah |
because multiple users access it |
| 16:22 |
Calinou |
Volkj: "sudo make install" installs to /usr/local by default |
| 16:23 |
everamzah |
oh, i have always used /usr/local, because that's where most stuff goes by default. and i don't even have to add it to /etc/ld.so.conf |
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Volkj |
Calinou: i see, i install it by package manager |
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whitephoenix |
full_punch_interval is used 3 times in lua_api.txt but never actually explained |
| 16:25 |
everamzah |
i asked about that once, it now more of a mystery to me than ever. i believe it's not used in minetest_game anywhere, but is a mechanism for tool progression, or something |
| 16:26 |
whitephoenix |
It's in all the default tools |
| 16:26 |
everamzah |
oh, well, never mind then |
| 16:26 |
whitephoenix |
I mean I can guess what it does but a real description so I didn't have to would be nice |
| 16:26 |
whitephoenix |
looks like I guessed wrong too, so idk |
| 16:27 |
everamzah |
maybe i was thinking about `level' |
| 16:28 |
whitephoenix |
maxlevel is in default tools too |
| 16:28 |
everamzah |
full_punch_interval is the time it takes for the tool to cock? completely back |
| 16:28 |
everamzah |
haha |
| 16:28 |
everamzah |
ye i got nothin; |
| 16:29 |
whitephoenix |
that was my guess but I can keep swinging at the same speed when I set it to 10.0 |
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whitephoenix |
everamzah, "it's what determines the time to get full damage again after attacking an entity" |
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everamzah |
ah, time from last punch, of course! \:D/ |
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* Megaf |
@ Plasma 5 |
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* Calinou |
@ Dynamic Window Manager |
| 17:10 |
* Megaf |
@ Different WM/DE/OS every week |
| 17:10 |
Megaf |
lol |
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segfault22 |
Is it possible to prevent any mod from arbitrarily calling functions of a specific mod? For example, if you could write Lua code into a dialog for a special node, then punch the node and it runs the code, it would be possible to change your account balance in some currency/trade mod or take balance from others' accounts. How can we make that impossible? |
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segfault22 |
I could make it verify tghe |
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segfault22 |
%n keybpard |
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segfault22 |
I could make the function verify a local variable and since other mods don't have that local variable they can't pass its value on to the function and make it do whatever. I will have to make the variable something long and complex like a MD5 sum or some other random crypt-text, so that it can't be guessed - and possibly require the server owner to enter said crypt-text so that it is different for each installation of the mod (or use /dev/urandom t |
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segfault22 |
o get some random data at load time, that way it's always different) |
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segfault22 |
But it could still be exploited if a player is a hacker and they figure out some way to access local variables and pass them to a function outside the mod to which the function belongs... |
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segfault22 |
does anyone have an idea or suggestions? |
| 17:57 |
segfault22 |
I took apart a broken food processor and modded a regular box fan to have the motor from the food processor in it,... it runs about 3.5x the power the fan was designed for. I only found out after I finished constructing it, that the food processor motor isn't designed to run longer than 3 minutes without overheating (manual said so) |
| 17:57 |
nm0i |
Megaf: how are plasma crashes? |
| 17:58 |
* nm0i |
@ emacs |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
nm0i: dont know yet, I never manage to support this thing long enough |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
xP |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
gtg, cya |
| 18:10 |
whitephoenix |
I'm trying to get the damage a player deals when they hit a node, is this possible or do I need an entity? |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
I don't think it's possible :( |
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Hijiri |
segfault22: make the functions local |
| 18:14 |
Hijiri |
segfault22: What is this mod for? |
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hisforever |
I tilled the ground, but my cotton is not growing Why? |
| 18:14 |
Hijiri |
Someone could always modify your mod to export the functions |
| 18:15 |
segfault22 |
The mod is going to be like the regular money/currency mod, except its integrated with paypal so that it deals with real money |
| 18:15 |
everamzah |
is there light enough? |
| 18:16 |
Hijiri |
Is it supposed to be between different servers? |
| 18:16 |
Hijiri |
You'll need to make the money cryptographically signed or something |
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Hijiri |
you can't let the servers be in charge of money production |
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segfault22 |
its for players to sell their earned resources to other players, or effectively just selling the time and effort to get the resources; the server is not supposed to make any money off of it because that would constitute selling the game which breaches the license. |
| 18:17 |
Hijiri |
what license? |
| 18:17 |
Hijiri |
LGPL2+ allows commercial use |
| 18:17 |
Hijiri |
paypal license? |
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segfault22 |
I saw on the forum the game devs said its not allowed to sell in-game stuff to players for real money, when the stuff is spawned from nothing |
| 18:18 |
Hijiri |
They probably just meant it was immoral |
| 18:18 |
Hijiri |
the license doesn't prohibit it |
| 18:18 |
Hijiri |
Is this on a trusted or untrusted server? |
| 18:19 |
segfault22 |
Any server |
| 18:19 |
Hijiri |
A server you don't control? |
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Hijiri |
(potentially) |
| 18:19 |
segfault22 |
right |
| 18:19 |
Hijiri |
Ok |
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Hijiri |
So is this with a central money server? |
| 18:20 |
Hijiri |
Or would each server have its own thing |
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segfault22 |
each server will handle it alone, except for the end that is handled by the paypal service servers at the paypal co-inc building |
| 18:21 |
Hijiri |
ok |
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Hijiri |
You could code it as if the server is trusted then |
| 18:22 |
Hijiri |
I'm not sure exactly how paypal API works |
| 18:23 |
Hijiri |
If possible, it would be good to have the server register a pending transaction and then complete it after confirmation from paypal that it went through |
| 18:23 |
Hijiri |
(The actual money transfer done outside the game) |
| 18:23 |
Hijiri |
the mod shouldn't require players to trust the server with their account info |
| 18:23 |
segfault22 |
yes |
| 18:24 |
Hijiri |
Another potential problem is some server owner scamming people by modding the mod to not actually do the transfer after the transaction completes |
| 18:25 |
Hijiri |
Probably your mod should be AGPL |
| 18:25 |
Hijiri |
though a scammer might put fake source code, at least they will be doing it illegally |
| 18:27 |
Hijiri |
I guess the scam would be illegal in the first place |
| 18:28 |
segfault22 |
maybe there is a way to prevent using the mod if the code is changed |
| 18:29 |
Hijiri |
no, you could just remove that part |
| 18:30 |
Hijiri |
you can't trust the mod code |
| 18:30 |
Hijiri |
unless you are the server operator |
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segfault22 |
I will operate a server with this on it, and I can't have someone abuse the mod and make it extract a whole bunch of money I don't have in the server's account, because then I would be in debt to paypal - that is the biggest concern. But if a server owner modified the code to scam people, that could be just as bad. |
| 18:33 |
Hijiri |
All the servers would be using your paypal? |
| 18:33 |
Hijiri |
brb shower |
| 18:34 |
Hijiri |
I personally don't think it's an issue if your mod allows other people to scam people, since they could have written their own scam mod anyway |
| 18:35 |
Hijiri |
and it would be a lot easier than a legitimate mod, since it doesn't have to actually confirm paypal transactions |
| 18:35 |
Hijiri |
but actually brb now |
| 18:36 |
Hijiri |
unbrb, I think it is very unlikely that a player will be able to run arbitrary lua code on the server, brb again |
| 18:36 |
segfault22 |
Each server will use a different account set-up by the server owner, ideally. |
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segfault22 |
Thats good, thank you for the help |
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Hijiri |
back |
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Hijiri |
originally I thought your system would involve transfers between player's paypals |
| 18:48 |
Hijiri |
If you are storing people's money you need special certification for that, at least in the US |
| 18:49 |
Hijiri |
probably any developed country |
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segfault22 |
It could just transfer between player's paypal accounts, if that is possible |
| 18:50 |
Hijiri |
I would go with that if possible |
| 18:52 |
segfault22 |
it would have to be signaled during and after the transaction, in order to move items between inventories or move game currency or whatever. |
| 18:52 |
segfault22 |
a function that does the transfer in-game will have to be called when the transaction happens. |
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Hijiri |
I don't know enough about the paypal API to know how to implement it or if it can be implemented |
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ElectronLibre |
Does anybody know if someone is working on getting InchraNet's domain name back? People are really getting annoyed that they can't go there as easily as they used to, some even consider leaving Inchra for that reason |
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segfault22 |
I am looking ad the paypal developer documentation and I don't see any way to "oversee" a transaction between two separate accounts,... it might be impossible without some kind of middleman system, so another service provider will have to be found |
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Hijiri |
I'm not a lawyer, but you could ask one if it's possible to have a virtual currency exchangable with real money both ways without going through certification |
| 18:57 |
Hijiri |
that is what Second Life does |
| 18:58 |
Hijiri |
You would still have to be very careful about handling it though, if it is legal |
| 18:58 |
Hijiri |
probably want to use a reliable transactional DBMS with it |
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Hijiri |
acid or whatever is sufficient for this |
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Hijiri |
I mean, choose acid, or anything else that is sufficient |
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Passant |
hi there, i have trouble with https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/f17d7911737ea553fa63aeaafa9ef5b7a60d608d because its a "nil" valua - may i miss something on the cherry-pick? or how exactly should the setting be named? mg_name = v7 for example does not work o.O |
| 19:00 |
Passant |
*value |
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Hijiri |
segfault22: I have to go now, good luck with your mod |
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segfault22 |
thank you |
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segfault22 |
I really appreciate all of the help and ideas/suggestions, they are essential to this development |
| 19:03 |
segfault22 |
without your insight I would not have gotten the idea to simply make the transaction between players' own accounts without a middleman |
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agaran |
technic+pipeworks makes awesome combo.. |
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ElectronLibre |
Passant: Without crash logs it's hard to tell where that kind of incident is from |
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paramat |
VanessaE you are a forum moderator? please could you look at this and take appropriate action? http://i.imgur.com/DUpSISi.png |
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Krock |
k-line him |
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Passant |
ElectronLibre: since the commit is looking for get_mapgen_setting i thought there is not much more to tell about. sorry. "attempt to call field 'get_mapgen_setting' (a nil value)" |
| 19:12 |
segfault22 |
people are so retarded,... are we going to have to set-up a moderator verification system for everything so the little kids don't see something that might disturb their fragile minds? |
| 19:12 |
segfault22 |
That seems to be the only option now, as everything has been abused |
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Calinou |
paramat: I dealt with it |
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ElectronLibre |
What is your version of the game Passant? |
| 19:13 |
segfault22 |
We should require moderators to approve profile pictures, post titles and content and attachments, and private messages before they are "allowed to pass" |
| 19:13 |
paramat |
ok |
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Calinou |
segfault22: there are a few forums I know that require avatar approval |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
it's a bit tedious |
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segfault22 |
or make two forums; one where everything is moderated and has to be approved, and one where everything is dumped to if it is not approved |
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paramat |
heh that's too much work |
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segfault22 |
the former is where the little kids are told to go for their mental safety, and nobody cares what goes to the latter |
| 19:15 |
segfault22 |
except malware |
| 19:15 |
Passant |
ElectronLibre: i merged "everything" today from this minetest_game to my forked one |
| 19:15 |
Passant |
or do you mean minetest instead of *_game? |
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whitephoenix |
to be honest thats what I would expect from most arch users |
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ElectronLibre |
I meant the engine |
| 19:16 |
Passant |
04fb109 |
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paramat |
Passant you need to update to latest engine dev version |
| 19:16 |
ElectronLibre |
Some kind of CRC commit hash |
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Passant |
thats good so it wont make trouble on the server, then :D |
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whitephoenix |
im gonna do a ddos an us 1337 hardcore hakr cmds so my middl skool friends will realiz i am bettr then evryone |
| 19:17 |
ElectronLibre |
Anyway, paramat and I have reached the same conclusion, update your engine |
| 19:17 |
ElectronLibre |
I've never seen anyone in middle school launching ddos attacks |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
whitephoenix: I did use Antergos (based on Arch Linux) for a while, and would still recommend it for power users who want recent software :) |
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ElectronLibre |
Here they barely know how to use spreadsheets |
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whitephoenix |
I used it for a while before I went to debian testing |
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whitephoenix |
the community was shit |
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whitephoenix |
anyways as a distro, I think void linux is what arch should have been |
| 19:18 |
ElectronLibre |
I use Arch Linux, mostly because I like having libraries that are recent, but I have this natural instinct of staying away from people, maybe it helped |
| 19:19 |
whitephoenix |
Void linux is super nice, worth a look |
| 19:21 |
segfault22 |
I never heard of void linux before now |
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segfault22 |
it looks cool |
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ElectronLibre |
Let me finish my gentoo first please |
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ElectronLibre |
I'm pretty sure I messed up the bootmanager's config file, I'm almost there |
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ElectronLibre |
I'll see what void linux looks like when I'm done with that |
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whitephoenix |
It's generally more stable because its rolling release, but core packages are tested pretty thoroughly |
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Calinou |
there's also Fedora, which is quite robust but still quite recent |
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Calinou |
packages rarely get more old than 6 months |
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paramat |
Calinou, that forum user has since cleaned up their posts and profile, but has behaved so badly, i was thinking a months ban? |
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paramat |
at least |
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Krock |
everamzah, please make a perfect loop gif for https://youtu.be/iNlXsGm5FO0?t=25m10s |
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everamzah |
mm, ok i'll try |
| 19:44 |
Krock |
:D |
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everamzah |
phew https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8499&p=225435#p225435 |
| 20:19 |
Krock |
WOOOO |
| 20:20 |
Krock |
that's a perfect loop :D |
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everamzah |
haha ^5 |
| 20:20 |
Krock |
well done |
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everamzah |
thanks! |
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mmmm |
how i can go to MT servers channels???????????please answer |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
mmmm: most Minetest server channels are not on freenode but on InchraNet |
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everamzah |
it's daconcepts.com i guess mmmm |
| 21:08 |
everamzah |
if you're looking for inchra.net |
| 21:08 |
Krock |
Yes, connect to daconcepts.com and see all rooms using /list |
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mmmm |
ok wait |
| 21:08 |
Krock |
^ can't open a 2nd tab |
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everamzah |
Amhi's new owner, ladies and gentlemen |
| 21:08 |
Krock |
huh |
| 21:09 |
everamzah |
lol he asked me for privs so i gave them to him |
| 21:09 |
Krock |
guys like you are the reason that such people get what they want |
| 21:10 |
everamzah |
generous to a fault |
| 21:10 |
Krock |
sometimes it's better to not give them any privs than cleaning up their mess afterwards |
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everamzah |
i never gave any to anyone except Dragonop and Kidmondo. but that was so long ago, and i had a good feeling about that one. so far so good going on day 2 |
| 21:11 |
Krock |
yes, I had Dragonop as mod on my server too |
| 21:11 |
everamzah |
i miss Dragonop |
| 21:11 |
Krock |
(back then when my router's port forwarding wasn't broken yet) |
| 21:11 |
everamzah |
yes, he would be mad at me if he knew, but he's not here so |
| 21:11 |
mmmm_ |
where is Dragonop? |
| 21:11 |
everamzah |
oh hi |
| 21:11 |
mmmm_ |
hi |
| 21:11 |
everamzah |
i dunno, probably busy with school |
| 21:12 |
mmmm_ |
ok |
| 21:12 |
Krock |
mmmm_, did you get into inchranet? |
| 21:12 |
everamzah |
i heard he got a new computer, so i kinda suspect he's busy with that too, and maybe other games. then again, he's probably around somewhere |
| 21:12 |
mmmm_ |
where? |
| 21:12 |
everamzah |
irc.daconcepts.com |
| 21:12 |
Krock |
god only knows |
| 21:12 |
mmmm_ |
how |
| 21:12 |
everamzah |
that's where #Amhi is if that's what you're looking for |
| 21:13 |
everamzah |
ooh, good question. are you on a web client? |
| 21:13 |
mmmm_ |
ok ok |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
I wonder if I should start a Minetest server again |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 21:13 |
everamzah |
well, yea! |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
I have the resources to make like 5 of them |
| 21:14 |
Krock |
mmmm_, https://kiwiirc.com/client/daconcepts.com/ join the channel #minetest |
| 21:15 |
mmmm_ |
k |
| 21:15 |
everamzah |
nice *bookmarks* |
| 21:15 |
Krock |
Calinou, then make 6 of them |
| 21:15 |
mmmm_ |
yes im at irc amhi server |
| 21:16 |
everamzah |
okie |
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Calinou |
wtf, Minetest... |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
map-dir is stupid |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
map-dir = minetest-survival |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
puts a world called "minetest-survival" in cwd |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
map-dir = ~/.minetest/worlds/minetest-survival |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
creates a folder called ~... |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
._. |
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everamzah |
the struggle is real. i think it's just worlds/ then, eh |
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Calinou |
an absolute path works |
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hisforever |
Do I need anything special to grow Cotton? |
| 21:52 |
DonBatman |
Jusat need to have dirt near water |
| 21:52 |
DonBatman |
use the hoe to til the dirt |
| 21:52 |
DonBatman |
plant the seeds |
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hisforever |
ty Don I frogot the water lol |
| 21:53 |
DonBatman |
It needs lots of light so plant them outside in suunlight |
| 21:53 |
DonBatman |
np |
| 21:54 |
hisforever |
I've been away from minetest for aboyr 6 months so I frogot a lot lol |
| 21:55 |
DonBatman |
It happens. I forget a lot |
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DonBatman |
Hi LazyJ |
| 21:58 |
LazyJ |
Howdy DonBatman ;) |
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DonBatman |
I think I am LazyDon today |
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KaadmY |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=225450#p225450 |
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KaadmY |
the reason behind 16 light levels... |
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