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Fixer |
ladders go up and then turn right, for sky island, teleporter gets added, after that ladders are removed, should be good |
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Fixer |
will try that |
00:01 |
Fixer |
thanks, gn |
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paramat |
ok |
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nm0i |
Players complaining about commercial popus on tablet version of the game, I take it some people made clones just to show ads, didn't they? |
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swift110-phone |
sup |
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sofar |
nm0i: yes |
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swift110-phone |
how r u sofar |
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segfault22 |
I am gonna make a fork |
05:28 |
segfault22 |
Minetest can be much better than any other voxel-based game such as minecraft,... |
05:33 |
segfault22 |
I will make it such that all nodes are one, each node being occupied by volumes of material with any shape - for example, smooth hills and caves. |
05:34 |
segfault22 |
nodes being all "one" on that they would become just a simple placeholder/host for volumes |
05:39 |
segfault22 |
Of course this will make fluid dynamics insanely difficult, because volume must be conserved. Making it look right is as simple as the smooth hills/caves problem, but calculating "where the fluid should go" is the big one... |
05:41 |
Hijiri |
Is there an upper limit on the size of item metadata? |
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segfault22 |
Ideally there is no limit, because it is assigned to a string value, which may be as large as however much free RAM is available to store it. However, the implementation may be flawed somehow (like the world size limit problem) requiring a limit to prevent error |
06:00 |
segfault22 |
I don't believe it is flawed, but that is entirely out of faith because I have not tested to find any limit. It is possible that nobody has ever stored a large enough metadata value to cause problems, so you may have to test and find if there is a limit. |
06:08 |
segfault22 |
Be careful so that you don't allow players any way to cause insanely massive metadata values to be written, because it can cause the server to hang while it is processing. For example, if some player figures out a trick that makes the game try to store >1GB of metadata, all players would drop connection before the server gets halfway through processing all of it |
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segfault22 |
I may have to wait for THz computing before fluid dynamics can be implemented in that fork I'm gonna make,... who knows maybe it won't be too resource-hogging, other more complicated stuff generally is possible with common GHz processors |
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segfault22 |
oh and by the way room-temperature superconductor really does exists, there is a patent http://www.google.com/patents/US20110130292 dude says he soaked a ring-shaped pile of graphene flakes with an alkane hydrocarbon like octane, and it holds a current loop producing a stable magnetic field, which ceases when the loop is broken. Now I have to go get some graphene flake powder and eicosane (wax alkane, less flammable) and make some |
07:07 |
segfault22 |
Surely they can make a THz processor with that, what would satisfy the huge processing load incurred with volume-conserved fluid dynamics in a modified version of Minetest |
07:07 |
est31 |
only becuase the patent claims so doesnt mean its actually a room temperature conductor |
07:07 |
est31 |
it can be a fake |
07:08 |
segfault22 |
That's true |
07:08 |
est31 |
It very much reminds me of this great invention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAseG7z_GQo |
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segfault22 |
My internet connection slowed to less than a Kbit/s at the same time I said it would be a waste of money to apply for a patent for something fake,... conspiracy! :O |
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est31 |
no? |
07:18 |
est31 |
its a good investment |
07:19 |
est31 |
because the moment somebody finds a way to turn graphene into a room temperature superconductor that dude can get the patent out of the drawer |
07:19 |
est31 |
and say "i have the patent, so you all must pay me" |
07:20 |
est31 |
its a bit speculative, but for the patent filer its a good investment |
07:20 |
est31 |
although it should not have been granted IMO |
07:23 |
segfault22 |
It's not just graphene though. The claims state there must be a "proton donor" - if some company makes a graphene superconductor without any "proton donor", it would be outside the scope of the (supposedly) fake patent, rendering it useless and the investment wasted. |
07:25 |
segfault22 |
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what "comes out in the wash", so-to-speak... |
07:37 |
segfault22 |
I will work primarily on that fork I said about earlier, but I will still find time to test the legitimacy of that supposed invention. Even if it is really real, I don't have the equipment to fabricate micro devices, and graphene powder is too expensive anyways |
07:39 |
segfault22 |
I can get a tiny amount of graphene flake powder for lab/science application, but not nearly enough to make enough of the (supposed) superconductor as would be required to wind the coils for a single motor... |
07:41 |
segfault22 |
Learning how to read and write C++ will be having a much greater fruitfulness to effort ratio |
07:42 |
Calinou |
reading C++ is not hard, just remember that you'll see <> often because the programmer is a fish |
07:42 |
Calinou |
><<<(°> |
07:42 |
* Calinou |
runs |
07:44 |
segfault22 |
I don't "get it",... |
07:45 |
Calinou |
it's an ASCII art fish :) |
07:45 |
segfault22 |
I got that part, just not why I will see <> |
07:45 |
Calinou |
that's part of C++ syntax |
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segfault22 |
I only see one or the other used as math operators, or the use of both as brackets, but I have not yet seen both angle brackets together with no characters between them |
07:51 |
segfault22 |
I have to go now |
07:52 |
segfault22 |
have a good day |
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miloszs |
chan serv |
09:08 |
JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Hug Holiday Day! 😃 |
09:08 |
miloszs |
how i can be in amhi irc?? |
09:08 |
miloszs |
hi |
09:08 |
miloszs |
how i can be in amhi irc?? pls say |
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miloszs |
odo someone know how i can be on irc on servers minetest?? |
09:09 |
miloszs |
?? |
09:10 |
miloszs |
how ?? |
09:10 |
miloszs |
are here someone?? |
09:20 |
est31 |
Calinou, is <> really valid c++? |
09:20 |
Calinou |
things like std::vector maybe? |
09:21 |
jojoa1997 |
doesnt <> mean not equal to |
09:21 |
jojoa1997 |
? |
09:21 |
est31 |
in vb.net or something |
09:21 |
est31 |
or in sql |
09:22 |
Calinou |
in almost all languages it's !=, or ~= in Lua |
09:22 |
est31 |
but not in c++ |
09:22 |
jojoa1997 |
oh its sql |
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nm0i |
Anything is better than neq-variants of clisp :P |
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Megaf |
Hi all |
14:16 |
Megaf |
90 days of uptime :D http://paste.debian.net/plain/771324 |
14:16 |
Megaf |
restarting now for kernel updates... |
14:18 |
Megaf |
Info: Processes: 79 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 43.5/986.3MB |
14:18 |
Megaf |
Init: Upstart v: 0.6.5 runlevel: 3 default: 3 Gcc sys: 4.4.7 |
14:18 |
Megaf |
=/ |
14:21 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
14:21 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
14:21 |
Fixer |
why =/ ? |
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Megaf |
Fixer, because I've lost the uptime |
14:22 |
Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
14:22 |
MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (7ms) |
14:23 |
Fixer |
Megaf: nobody cares |
14:23 |
Fixer |
Megaf: people care about minetest server uptime and speed |
14:26 |
Megaf |
Yep, I just begin testing it running in realtime priority and with maximum IO priority too |
14:26 |
Megaf |
Priority 0 and nice -20 |
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Megaf |
actually that didnt make any difference at all |
14:43 |
Megaf |
since the server is mostly idle most of the time anyway. MT is the task that always use more CPU anyway |
14:44 |
KaadmY |
!server pixture |
14:44 |
MinetestBot |
KaadmY: Pixture game server | pixture.quelcom.xyz | Clients: 5/10, 2/7 | Version: 0.4.14 / pixture | Ping: 18ms |
14:44 |
KaadmY |
why are there 2 numbers for clients? |
14:45 |
KaadmY |
"5/10, 2/7"? |
14:46 |
Megaf |
current players/max players average of players/average of maximum players? |
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Megaf |
It's just a guess |
14:47 |
KaadmY |
hmm, maybe |
14:47 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
14:47 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
14:47 |
KaadmY |
i actually think i've asked that same question before :P |
14:47 |
Megaf |
oh |
14:47 |
KaadmY |
i assume ^ is bad? |
14:48 |
Megaf |
My server is down, doing a full backup, by full I mean, cloning the server's disk over the internet to a backup |
14:48 |
Megaf |
backup location |
14:48 |
Megaf |
2,051,879,392 27% 6.94MB/s(Max Speed) 0:12:46 |
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mransom |
yowzer |
14:57 |
Megaf |
the real transfer rate is much lower, somthing like 2.5MB/s |
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Lost2Day |
Krock, Good day. Thought I would report back since you had helped me and so that others can search for the answer. |
16:44 |
Lost2Day |
LinuxMint 18 MineTest 0.4.13 installed from the sarah repos. Creative mode is set in two different places depending on local (minetest) or server (minetestserver) based game. |
16:45 |
Lost2Day |
When running local minetest /home/user_name/.minetest/worlds/world_name/world.mt" with setting "creative_mode = true" turns creative mode on. |
16:45 |
Lost2Day |
When running minetestserver /etc/minetest/minetest.conf with setting "creative_mode = true" turns creative mode on. |
16:51 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
i'm pretty sure minetestserver should read world.mt too |
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Lost2Day |
sfan5, is what Krock thought as well. But testing against what you get from the Mint repos does not |
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swift110 |
sup ya |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi |
18:18 |
Krock |
hi |
18:18 |
Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: do you compress it or just raw backup? |
18:21 |
Megaf |
Out`Of`Control, well, I copy the disk image |
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Out`Of`Control |
does it effect speed if i enable mapgen debug info ? |
18:26 |
Megaf |
test it and tell us |
18:32 |
* Calinou |
is making a Ubuntu 12.04 chroot |
18:32 |
Calinou |
for making AppImages :p |
18:41 |
Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: debug.txt gets huge in short time |
18:41 |
Megaf |
yep |
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Calinou |
the chroot works, after some tweaking |
18:53 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf Server |
18:53 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
18:53 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf Server Test |
18:53 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf Server Test |
18:53 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
18:53 |
Megaf |
!up 85.159.210.199 30003 |
18:53 |
MinetestBot |
85.159.210.199:30003 is up (7ms) |
18:53 |
Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
18:53 |
MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (8ms) |
18:53 |
Megaf |
!up 85.159.210.199 30003 |
18:53 |
MinetestBot |
85.159.210.199:30003 is up (14ms) |
18:55 |
Out`Of`Control |
!up Liberty Land |
18:55 |
MinetestBot |
Out`Of`Control: invalid address |
18:55 |
Out`Of`Control |
oh |
18:55 |
sfan5 |
!server Liberty |
18:55 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Liberty Land | mt.rbose.org | Clients: 13/50, 19/29 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / ayntest | Ping: 17ms |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
!up checks a server address directly |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
!server fetches the data from the server list |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
the ping will probably be identical because MinetestBot and servers.minetest.net share a server |
18:57 |
Megaf |
!up Test |
18:57 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: invalid address |
18:57 |
Megaf |
oops |
18:57 |
Megaf |
!server Test |
18:57 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: MinetestForFun SKYBLOCK | 158.69.114.146:30054 | Clients: 20/50, 13/27 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetestforfun_skyblock | Ping: 89ms |
18:57 |
Megaf |
is there a Megaf Server Test on the list? |
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sfan5 |
no |
18:58 |
Out`Of`Control |
sfan5: is there info about amount of servers and clients globaly |
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18:58 |
sfan5 |
no |
18:59 |
sfan5 |
just open https://servers.minetest.net for that |
18:59 |
Megaf |
well, a nasty copy and paste bug still present in Minetest |
18:59 |
Out`Of`Control |
500 users 145 servers |
19:00 |
Megaf |
I tried to copy something from gnome=terminal to minetest, it killed all my gnome-terminal windows and minetest |
19:00 |
Megaf |
sfan5, that is not cool |
19:00 |
sfan5 |
the application you tried to paste from should never crash |
19:01 |
Megaf |
[108639.801254] traps: minetest[30686] general protection ip:7efbee4bf66c sp:7ffbffff06a0 error:0 in radeonsi_dri.so[7efbedff6000+76a000] |
19:01 |
Megaf |
[108916.140634] minetest[30914]: segfault at 7ffcb9ddf1e8 ip 00007efbee4bf66c sp 00007ffbffff06a0 error 6 in radeonsi_dri.so[7efbedff6000+76a000] |
19:01 |
Megaf |
but the bug is quite old |
19:01 |
Megaf |
and it only happens with Minetest |
19:01 |
Megaf |
so yeah |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: killed gnome terminal? |
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Out`Of`Control |
thats odd |
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sfan5 |
Megaf: well that's a crash in your graphics driver |
19:08 |
Megaf |
Out`Of`Control, or whatever is the source of the copy |
19:08 |
Calinou |
Minetest is building in the chroot… |
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Calinou |
it finishes, but errors on linking with LevelDB |
19:09 |
Calinou |
will try building without LevelDB |
19:10 |
Megaf |
Calinou, I used to build Minetest in chroot for 32 bit CPUs |
19:10 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: ubuntu precise? |
19:10 |
Megaf |
for Windows... |
19:10 |
Calinou |
this is a 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 chroot |
19:10 |
Calinou |
now it builds |
19:10 |
Calinou |
and links ;) |
19:10 |
Calinou |
ok, now to package for AppImage |
19:18 |
Megaf |
!g appimage |
19:18 |
Megaf |
no !g? |
19:18 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Problem getting data from Google. |
19:18 |
Megaf |
sfan5, ^ |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
!g google |
19:19 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Problem getting data from Google. |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
module broken |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
might require changes |
19:19 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: leveldb is known to be broken on precise |
19:20 |
sfan5 |
the travis scripts also need work around that |
19:20 |
Megaf |
!d duckduckgo perhaps? |
19:20 |
Megaf |
!b bing? |
19:20 |
Megaf |
!y Yahoo? |
19:20 |
Megaf |
!w wikipedia |
19:20 |
* Megaf |
gives up |
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Megaf |
how do I apply the changes on sysctl.conf without rebooting again? |
19:25 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: read the man page :) |
19:25 |
Megaf |
sysctl -p :) |
19:26 |
Megaf |
!server Server Test |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: [JP] Japan Survival Server(Testing) | 133.242.161.27:30003 | Clients: 25/30, 21/29 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 283ms |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf Server Test |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
19:26 |
Megaf |
Grr |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf Server Test |
19:26 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
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Calinou |
https://lut.im/gLKKAqLMSJ/uIh4jOK6nkvaZmVR.png |
19:27 |
Calinou |
it works! :) |
19:27 |
Megaf |
<ERROR> 2016-06-29 16:26:18: [CurlFetch] servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Couldn't resolve host name) (response code 0) |
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Megaf |
I'm missing something |
19:27 |
Calinou |
it's running in the chroot (graphical applications can be run inside them and viewed in the host OS) |
19:27 |
Calinou |
I will test the AppImage on the host OS (Arch Linux), then distribute |
19:27 |
Megaf |
I used to run Skype 32 bit in a 32 bit chroot on a 64 bit host |
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Megaf |
!up 85.159.210.199 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
85.159.210.199:30003 is up (8ms) |
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Megaf |
can someone please just try to connect to 85.159.210.199 30003? Just to see if it works or not |
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Calinou |
./Minetest.AppImage: error while loading shared libraries: libkrb5.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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Calinou |
:( |
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FreeFull |
You'll probably have to recompile minetest, assuming you compiled it yourself |
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Megaf |
well, thank you example |
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Megaf |
:D |
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sfan5 |
Megaf: np :D |
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Calinou |
FreeFull: this is for the AppImage I'm working |
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Calinou |
http://appimage.org |
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Calinou |
the point of an AppImage is, once compiled on an old GNU/Linux distribution, it works on every distro, recent or old |
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FreeFull |
Ok |
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Megaf |
how is that better than compiling minetest on old distro and bundling libs with it in a tgz package? |
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miloszs_ |
hi |
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miloszs_ |
how i can go to irc servers minetest? |
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miloszs_ |
chanserv |
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miloszs_ |
@ChanServ |
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Void7 |
huh |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf Server Test |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server Test v4.0 | 85.159.210.199:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
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Megaf |
!rainbow F I N A L L Y ! |
20:26 |
MinetestBot |
4F I7 N 8A L3 L Y ! |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
20:27 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
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Megaf |
there we go |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf Server Test |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server Test v4.0 | 85.159.210.199:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
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Megaf |
how beautiful is that? |
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Megaf |
so, if anyone cares about KVM vs Xen, I just did a series of tests here |
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Megaf |
same OS and packages versions on two virtual machines |
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Megaf |
one KVM other Xen |
20:40 |
Megaf |
the KVM is running on a newer CPU |
20:40 |
Megaf |
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz |
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Megaf |
thats the KVM |
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Megaf |
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz |
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Megaf |
that's the Xen host |
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Megaf |
Xen beats KVM on all tests I made |
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Megaf |
cpu speed, disk speed, memory bandwidth and network latency |
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red-001 |
I can't believe globeminner servers are still up |
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red-001 |
and have an uptime of 250 days |
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red-001 |
2.16385e+007 |
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Megaf |
anyone here with VPS on Linode? |
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Megaf |
did you upgrade to KVM? |
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