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00:04 |
DNK_ |
I don't want the executable, I want the minetest folder so I can access /minetest/bin/ so I can start editing the server files, that does not help me. |
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Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/dNlQGZw.jpg \o |
00:43 |
Sokomine |
fixer: yes, i've seen that bug in another context as well but am not sure as to how to fix it |
00:52 |
Volkj |
DNK_: minetest shared files are on /usr/share/minetes |
00:53 |
Volkj |
however it's better to get a separate config per-server in /home/user/.minetest |
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TheReaperKing |
Is there a way to write a loop in minetest |
01:06 |
TheReaperKing |
I'm searching the wiki for syntax guides |
01:07 |
Sokomine |
not in minetest as such. it's not a language. you can write loops in c (if you're changing the engine) or lua |
01:07 |
TheReaperKing |
is there any kind of wait command? |
01:08 |
Sokomine |
depends on the situation. waiting would not be helpful in most cases as it'd block execution of the rest. better tell us what you want to do |
01:09 |
TheReaperKing |
basically I want it to fire spawning at a predefined time, so a spawner set at 30 "delay" delays 30s seconds from the server creation |
01:09 |
TheReaperKing |
I did post it on the forums too |
01:09 |
TheReaperKing |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14979 |
01:09 |
Sokomine |
ah. there used to be a method called "abm" (active block modifier) for that. now it's probably lbm? just take a look at the api |
01:09 |
TheReaperKing |
like 2 seconds ago haha but figured I'd ask in here too |
01:09 |
TheReaperKing |
okay I will thanks! |
01:10 |
Sokomine |
register_abm |
01:10 |
Sokomine |
at least for nodes |
01:10 |
TheReaperKing |
You just reminded me of something else to check too, thank you |
01:11 |
Sokomine |
hmm. i could use an and(..) function for joining a list of strings right now...but i think we only have concat (or self-written functions) |
01:12 |
TheReaperKing |
so I have an idea, the delay could set the "interval" and then the spawn is fired and then interval could be set to 0 directly after it |
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MinetestBot |
[git] yyt16384 -> minetest/minetest_game: Flowers: Fix misaligned waterlily texture e0bec50 https://git.io/vorFb (2016-06-21T02:21:00+01:00) |
01:24 |
MinetestBot |
[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Doors: Clean up nodedef usage 3e9afe0 https://git.io/vorFN (2016-06-21T02:20:47+01:00) |
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Sokomine |
you could remove the node. anyway...there are mob spawners around somewhere where you can take a look :_) |
01:57 |
DNK_ |
I got stuck between rocks without any pickaxe or wood, what do? |
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TheReaperKing |
you can do a loop, a for loop! |
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swift110-phone |
hey |
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sloanonlinux |
Hi |
04:02 |
swift110-phone |
how are you sloanonlinux |
04:03 |
sloanonlinux |
Fine, you? |
04:07 |
Hijiri |
TheReaperKing: You should take a look at node timers |
04:13 |
swift110-phone |
im g4eat |
04:13 |
swift110-phone |
im great |
04:18 |
swift110-phone |
what ya up to sloanonlinux |
04:27 |
sloanonlinux |
I'm just working on math |
04:31 |
swift110-phone |
ok cool |
04:34 |
TheReaperKing |
Thanks Hijiri |
04:34 |
TheReaperKing |
Looks like I actually might have it working with minetest.after |
04:34 |
TheReaperKing |
I will check out node timers too |
04:35 |
TheReaperKing |
Wow looks like they would have made life a lot easier |
05:02 |
Hijiri |
If you stand on a moving entity, do you get carried along with it? |
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05:03 |
everamzah |
no, i don't believe you do |
05:03 |
Hijiri |
okay, thanks |
05:03 |
everamzah |
only if you're attached? |
05:04 |
everamzah |
like on a horse with a saddle lol, when it works |
05:04 |
everamzah |
or a cart |
05:04 |
NeueMann |
How long does it take for a server to start looking like people actually play it? |
05:04 |
VanessaE |
a couple of weeks if people recognize your name |
05:05 |
everamzah |
depends on the server, how much ppl like it, how long they stay |
05:05 |
everamzah |
if ppl stay for a while, it attracts more players |
05:06 |
TheReaperKing |
why are some "end"s "end," |
05:06 |
TheReaperKing |
what does the comma do? |
05:06 |
everamzah |
because they're table elements |
05:06 |
NeueMann |
Also, I can only have about three players at once because I have a single thread on my VPS. Are there some server processes I can kill? |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
because they're part of a table |
05:06 |
TheReaperKing |
like an array? |
05:06 |
everamzah |
anything that's not minetestserver, i imagine |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
you can embed a code segment into a table, for example. |
05:06 |
everamzah |
yes, a table array |
05:06 |
TheReaperKing |
Thanks so much |
05:06 |
everamzah |
i guess everything in lua is a table? |
05:07 |
TheReaperKing |
I've never been much of a coder but I've been learning so much tonight it feels amazing haha |
05:07 |
TheReaperKing |
when coding stuff actually works it is such a great feeling haha |
05:07 |
everamzah |
yes lua/minetest good platform for learning |
05:07 |
TheReaperKing |
I'm trying to learn it fast so I can teach my students |
05:08 |
TheReaperKing |
I'll start with the other areas first I think |
05:08 |
everamzah |
do you read the PIL book? |
05:08 |
TheReaperKing |
I don't think I have |
05:08 |
Hijiri |
numbers aren't tables |
05:08 |
everamzah |
i think everything in lua is a table |
05:08 |
Hijiri |
that's not true |
05:08 |
Hijiri |
you can't index a number |
05:08 |
everamzah |
https://www.lua.org/pil/ |
05:09 |
everamzah |
free online 1st edition: https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html |
05:09 |
TheReaperKing |
ha that's actually what I was looking at tonight for loop syntax |
05:09 |
Hijiri |
do you want me to read each section to see if it says that everything is tables |
05:09 |
Hijiri |
oh |
05:09 |
Hijiri |
that wasn't at me |
05:09 |
Hijiri |
sorry |
05:09 |
TheReaperKing |
I'll have to make sure to bookmark it now for sure |
05:09 |
everamzah |
u can't have a number without a var? the var is part of a global table? (i'm making this up) |
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05:10 |
Hijiri |
values and variables are distinct |
05:10 |
Hijiri |
even if one has is assigned to another |
05:10 |
everamzah |
how do u get a value without a variable? |
05:10 |
Hijiri |
1 + 1 |
05:10 |
everamzah |
how do u store it? |
05:10 |
Hijiri |
why do I need to store it? |
05:11 |
Hijiri |
I could do local x = 1 + 1 anyway |
05:11 |
Hijiri |
and that wouldn't be part of any table |
05:11 |
everamzah |
_G |
05:11 |
Hijiri |
_G is for global variables |
05:11 |
everamzah |
oh |
05:11 |
Hijiri |
And it would not matter anyway |
05:11 |
Hijiri |
being a value in a table is not the same thing as being the table |
05:12 |
Hijiri |
Needing tables to use Lua is not the same as everything being a table |
05:12 |
everamzah |
interesting |
05:12 |
Hijiri |
this is like saying everything is a function in a functional language |
05:13 |
everamzah |
in lisp everything is a list? |
05:14 |
Hijiri |
primitive integers are not a list |
05:14 |
Hijiri |
s/list/s-exp |
05:15 |
everamzah |
i dunno me |
05:15 |
everamzah |
lua/minetest is pretty fun anyway |
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swift110-phone |
hm. |
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burli |
good morning |
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everamzah |
greetings |
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07:23 |
Qwertie |
Does anyone know where I can get the mods required to run a sky block server? |
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everamzah |
Qwertie: never done it, is it a subgame? if so it would come with all. if it's a mod, it should have a depends.txt listing which mods it needs |
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07:34 |
Qwertie |
everamzah: Yeah its like subgame, I have seen it on a server before. I can find a mod that seems to work for single player but I cant tell if it would work with a server |
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everamzah |
Qwertie: i see skyblock modpack from cornernote, with recent commits... https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock |
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everamzah |
skyblock_levels mod depends.txt has standard stuff, except for protector - u need to grab that |
07:37 |
everamzah |
and it has an opt-depend on unified_inventory |
07:37 |
everamzah |
otherwise whatever server mods you feel you need |
07:37 |
everamzah |
and i think that should be it |
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NeueMann |
Just got broadband internet. I'm running the WAFE server. It's dauntingly slow because my VPS only allows one thread. I have an old acer aspire one in the closet with no hard drive. Would flash storage work for the server? I have a couple of those. |
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Fritigern |
NeueMann: I don't see why that wouldn't work for a server |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Go Skateboarding Day! 😃 |
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Derr |
https://i.sli.mg/bO6g8a.png bulbasuar is the last pokemon I'm going to add now I'm going to focus on code |
09:42 |
Derr |
I know how to bone but I'm not sure what kind of animations these guys should have |
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BubblezRaging |
I need a admin for storms survival server i am having greifers |
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BubblezRaging |
stormchaser3000 i need help |
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BubblezRaging |
and there is a guy names Oscar cussing |
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swift110-phone |
hey |
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LNJ2GO |
How can I set the admin of a world? (/admin) |
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NeueMann |
minetest.conf setting "name" |
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LNJ2GO |
so name = LNJ |
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LNJ2GO |
thanks |
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Calinou |
http://www.pcgamer.com/were-running-a-quake-server-all-weekcome-play-with-us/ |
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Calinou |
KaadmY: ^ |
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Guest123 |
Hello |
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Builder1234 |
is this irc operational? |
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Volkj |
people will answer, given time |
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Krock |
but he doesn't know that fact |
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asl97 |
craft prediction is done on the server side? |
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Krock |
only server knows the recipes, so yes. |
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H-H-H |
you would have thought that builder1234 would try a different irc channel lol instead of the same one for days on end |
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Devices |
I have a problem with a server, it doesn't seem to listen on the port |
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Devices |
when I nmap my server IP at port 30000 it says closed |
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Glorfindel |
Where are you nmap'ing from? |
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Devices |
the server itself. if I do it from my own pc it just says 'filtered' like on all closed ports |
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sofar |
Devices: did you do an UDP or TCP scan? |
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Devices |
oh good question, I just used the default setting |
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sofar |
there are also better ways to see if minetest is listening on a port, or not |
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sofar |
lsof -n | grep LISTEN |
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18:33 |
Devices |
that gives no results |
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sofar |
or `netstat -lpn` |
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sofar |
on the machine itself |
18:33 |
Devices |
yeah |
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Devices |
the second command seems to imply it listens on 30000 |
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Devices |
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:30000 0.0.0.0:* - |
18:34 |
sofar |
on UDP, yes |
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sofar |
that's where it listens by default |
18:34 |
Glorfindel |
Couldn't you just fire up another minetest client and test? |
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Devices |
well I get a server connection timeout when I try to connect |
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Devices |
which is why I'm trying this shit |
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sofar |
try running a client from the same machine as the server? |
18:35 |
Devices |
is there a command line client for minetest? |
18:35 |
sofar |
nope |
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sofar |
headless server? |
18:36 |
Devices |
then it'll be difficult, it doesn't run X |
18:36 |
Devices |
yeah |
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asl97 |
sofar: there is that random input client |
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Devices |
debian jessie |
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sofar |
asl97: sure, but that's somewhat over complex :) |
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sofar |
Devices: firewall? port forwarding? actual IP address? |
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* sofar |
afk |
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Devices |
tried actual IP address and digitalocean should have all ports open by default |
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Devices |
my website required no firewall/forwardign and neither did ssh socks5 proxy |
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Glorfindel |
Would DO have special rules for http/https ports? |
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Devices |
maybe |
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sfan5 |
if you really want to test you should do an UDP scan |
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sfan5 |
because minetest does not use tcp for game connections |
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sfan5 |
also take a look at your iptables to see whether anything is being filtered |
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sfan5 |
also you should probably run nmap on your pc for checking purposes |
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Devices |
the UDP scan says open/filtered |
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sfan5 |
well then it should work |
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Devices |
yeah it should, but it doesn't sadly |
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Devices |
let me check if I even have iptables installed |
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Devices |
nothing in the log files about blocking/dropping packages |
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Devices |
and I just tried a socks5 proxy from my server on a random port and that one works fine |
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asl97 |
Devices: one of the bot can check if it is able to access your server if you tell it the ip/domain using the up command |
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Devices |
so /msg bot up domain? |
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asl97 |
!up 31.14.135.5 30001 |
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MinetestBot |
31.14.135.5:30001 is up (39ms) |
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asl97 |
like that^ |
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Devices |
ah |
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Devices |
!up izumi.tv 30000 |
18:54 |
MinetestBot |
izumi.tv:30000 seems to be down |
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KaadmY |
!server pixture |
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MinetestBot |
KaadmY: Pixture game server | pixture.quelcom.xyz | Clients: 3/10, 3/5 | Version: 0.4.14 / pixture | Ping: 22ms |
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asl97 |
(note: ip address selected 'randomly' from the server list) |
18:54 |
Devices |
what could be the problem? |
18:54 |
Devices |
minetest-server is running |
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asl97 |
ask your host? |
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Devices |
I don't think it's on their part, I can connect to my other services |
18:56 |
asl97 |
does those other service use udp? |
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asl97 |
the host could be filtering udp traffic |
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Devices |
hm they are all tcp yeah |
18:58 |
Devices |
I'll google around |
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sfan5 |
Devices: iptables is installed by default and dropped packets are usually not logged unless specially configured |
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air |
is it not possible to copy and paste in the change password fields? |
19:00 |
sfan5 |
depends on your os |
19:01 |
sfan5 |
don't exec copy-paste to work on linux at all |
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sfan5 |
expect* |
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air |
why? |
19:01 |
sfan5 |
irrlicht problems |
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Devices |
made a support ticket on my host |
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Devices |
friend of mine said they might indeed block UDP |
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sfan5 |
a major cloud hoster blocking all UDP traffic seems unlikely to me |
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sfan5 |
but let's see what they say |
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Devices |
at least I'd know it's not that |
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air |
sfan5: thanks, found a patch by est31 to fix irrlicht |
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Devices |
DO says UDP is not blocked |
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Devices |
what else could it be? |
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asl97 |
Devices: minetest not listening to requests from anyway? |
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Devices |
the bot says it's down as well, so yeah probably |
20:14 |
Devices |
can't test on the server itself, it's headless |
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asl97 |
did you put anything in `bind_address =`? |
20:15 |
Devices |
nope, it binds to 0.0.0.0 |
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Devices |
I also tried 127.0.0.1, but doesn't work either |
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asl97 |
what about ipv6_server = false? |
20:16 |
Devices |
it's set to false yeah |
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asl97 |
iirc, 127.0.0.1 would make it listen to request from itself only |
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Devices |
yeah I found online that 0.0.0.0 is normal |
20:17 |
asl97 |
maybe firewall |
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Devices |
nothing in my firewall seems to block it |
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asl97 |
the server is running? |
20:29 |
Devices |
yeah, talking to you from it now |
20:29 |
Devices |
but it did appear to be a firewall issue |
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Devices |
thanks for the help m8 |
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asl97 |
i mean the minetest server |
20:29 |
asl97 |
that is pretty much the only thing i can think of. |
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Devices |
fixed it with "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p UDP --dport 30000 -j ACCEPT" |
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swift110 |
minetest is nice |
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Devices |
which is weird since the firewall should have allowed all protocols |
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sloanonlinux_ |
Where's pilzadam? |
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tripleboops OldCoder |
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Fixer |
somewhere in pilzland |
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heman_ |
hey, can anyone provide a quick answer |
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asl97 |
heman_: it depend on the question |
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heman_ |
I realize the answer will most likely be a no but still worth an ask |
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heman_ |
I'm helping at a children's summer club, and we are putting together a "minecraft" event, as our state is hlding a competition to replicate the capitol. |
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heman_ |
Are Minetest saves compatitable with Minetest and vise versa? |
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heman_ |
*Minecraft and vise versa |
23:39 |
Volkj |
minetest is a different game from minecraft |
23:39 |
heman_ |
I realize that. |
23:39 |
Volkj |
however i don't know if there's a map database converter |
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heman_ |
I have a funny feeling they won't work together, but our director wants to use MInetest. Which looks fine, but won't meet the standards required. |
23:40 |
asl97 |
heman_: the saves aren't compatible, there are converter for maps but there are plenty of nodes not available in minetest |
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Hirato |
there are mods, maybe just grab VanessaE's dreamworld thing |
23:41 |
Volkj |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007 |
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heman_ |
Nice. But that converts Minecraft to Minetest. |
23:42 |
heman_ |
Is their a tool to convert the other way? |
23:43 |
asl97 |
heman_: you should ask the minecraft community |
23:43 |
heman_ |
I'll see about that. Thanks for the help! |
23:43 |
asl97 |
i highly doubt there is much people converting minetest map into minecraft map |
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asl97 |
in a minetest community |
23:44 |
heman_ |
Appreciate the help either way. |
23:44 |
heman_ |
Thanks! |
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Volkj |
but even in minecraft communities i doubt someone considers minetest |
23:44 |
asl97 |
^ |
23:45 |
heman_ |
OK. |
23:45 |
Volkj |
seems there's a #minecraft channel |
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Hirato |
not to mention, minecraft has a much smaller worldspace |
23:46 |
Hirato |
particularly around the vertica |
23:46 |
asl97 |
Hirato: only around the vertical |
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Mr_Narfh |
anyone know the link for 3d amor od? |
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KaadmY |
that's odd |
23:48 |
KaadmY |
Hirato: horizontal is far, far larger than MT's |
23:49 |
asl97 |
Mr_Narfh: you can always do a quick search on github https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=3d+armor+minetest |
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asl97 |
there are two repo |
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Mr_Narfh |
ok thanks dude |