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00:46 Niebieski I'm just trying to run Minetest on 256MB of RAM.
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01:38 swift110 wow Niebieski on what?
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02:00 Niebieski On a PC.
02:01 Niebieski Running Debian, and MT version 0.4.10
02:02 Niebieski It didn't run well though.
02:04 VanessaE next time don't use HDX ;)
02:05 Niebieski What's HDX ?
02:05 VanessaE a high-end texture pack I maintain
02:06 VanessaE well known for stressing the shit out of a system, mainly because of RAM requirements
02:08 H-H-H then press forward and go make a coffe and by the time you get back it MAY have moved lol
02:10 Niebieski I'm reading the thread right now, You say that it can run well on low-end machines.
02:10 VanessaE :P
02:10 VanessaE Niebieski: if you stick to the lower resolutions, it can.
02:10 VanessaE I had this one old laptop that worked fine on 64px.  throw 512px at it and it would melt down :)
02:12 Niebieski What's the specs ?
02:12 VanessaE read the first post of the forum thread :)
02:13 H-H-H loving pipeworks with technic and digilines lol awesome combo :)
02:15 Niebieski 16GB RAM ?
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02:15 VanessaE most I've seen HDX512 take was 12GB, but these days it needs less
02:15 VanessaE around 7GB if you're lucky.
02:16 VanessaE (depends on the subgame and/or mods you're using)
02:20 Niebieski Although the system is off, the CPU fan is still running.
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03:49 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Split long lines. Capitalise 'Biome API'. Minor edits c7297e5 https://git.io/voku8 (2016-06-07T04:45:41+01:00)
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06:09 edaq hey
06:09 iwB hey
06:09 edaq does anyone know why minetest wont run singleplayer
06:09 edaq I keep getting a connection timed out thing
06:09 edaq hi iwB
06:09 iwB Minetest run singleplayer
06:09 iwB hmmm
06:09 iwB singleplayer or multiplayer
06:10 edaq multiplayer works
06:10 iwB singleplayer cant get connection timed out
06:10 edaq singleplayer wont work
06:10 edaq accessed denied "connection timed out"
06:10 iwB You mean when you join a world at singleplayer it has no block?
06:10 iwB oh
06:10 iwB that is weird
06:11 iwB singleplayer dosent need wifi
06:16 edaq iwB, back
06:16 edaq it said connecting
06:16 edaq forever
06:17 edaq then cannot connect
06:17 iwB huh
06:17 iwB hmmm
06:17 edaq but it is single player so
06:17 iwB Try to download minetest 0.14.0 again
06:17 edaq it should not need connection
06:17 edaq ah
06:17 edaq I am using 0.4.13
06:18 edaq that might explain it some
06:18 iwB There is 0.4.14 now
06:19 edaq using a severly outdated package I guess
06:19 edaq mine said 0.4.13
06:19 iwB use minetest 0.4.14 xD
06:19 edaq noah
06:19 iwB minetest 0.4.14 are already out!
06:19 edaq ah
06:19 iwB Realised on 15 May
06:19 edaq not packaged yet though
06:19 edaq is there a deb version
06:19 edaq somewhere
06:19 edaq Or do I have to compile it
06:19 edaq I can compile
06:19 edaq but
06:20 edaq takes a bit to hunt down build requirement
06:20 edaq etc
06:20 iwB okay
06:21 edaq I am getting stuff to compile lol
06:21 edaq made me do it
06:21 edaq lol
06:21 edaq that still doesnt explain the weird error though
06:22 edaq "old" should still work on single player anyway
06:22 iwB yup
06:22 edaq why does it treat it as a connection is that a bug that was seen in older ones mostly
06:22 iwB But I think minetest 0.4.14 is weird
06:22 edaq really
06:23 edaq how so?
06:23 iwB check debug.txt
06:23 edaq just curious(before I walk the update plank)
06:23 edaq where is debug.txt
06:23 edaq in its changelog dir
06:23 edaq or something
06:24 iwB In the Minetest Bin folder
06:24 edaq cool
06:24 edaq one sec
06:25 iwB it writed debug only click it
06:28 Out`Of`Control 0.4.13 should work fine on singleplayer
06:28 edaq it is weird
06:28 edaq hm
06:28 edaq hello Out`Of`Control
06:28 edaq did not see you here also
06:28 Out`Of`Control edaq: try to start it from terminal, look for errors
06:28 edaq nice
06:28 iwB yup it kinda weird
06:29 iwB but you can find error at debug.txt
06:29 edaq 2016-06-07 00:11:20: ACTION[main]: Irrlicht: Could not open file of texture: character.png
06:29 edaq 2016-06-07 00:11:20: ACTION[main]: Irrlicht: Could not open file of texture: character.png
06:29 edaq 2016-06-07 00:11:20: ACTION[main]: Irrlicht: Could not open file of texture: character.png
06:29 edaq was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
06:29 iwB eh
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06:29 edaq ow
06:29 iwB welcome back
06:29 edaq lol
06:29 iwB lol
06:29 iwB do not write too long message
06:29 Out`Of`Control use pastebin or something
06:30 iwB well.. Minetest 0.4.14 are better. but minetest 0.14.0 had a weird bug
06:31 edaq http://pastebin.com/rS31H5Sy
06:31 iwB in minetest 0.4.14 you need to left-click twice to place a block
06:31 edaq that is crappy
06:31 edaq I might not update yet them
06:31 iwB Yup
06:31 edaq then
06:31 iwB but
06:31 edaq I love single click
06:31 edaq but?
06:31 iwB If you put a game in minetest 0.4.10..
06:31 iwB you just need single click
06:32 edaq hm
06:32 edaq I like 4.13
06:32 Out`Of`Control iwB: i click once to place a block, same was in 0.4.10
06:32 iwB 0.4.14*
06:32 iwB LOL
06:32 edaq ok
06:32 edaq whats the deal
06:32 iwB Wrong number xD
06:32 edaq I am lost
06:32 edaq double click for a single block sounds terrible
06:32 iwB Ikr
06:33 edaq *the sea of update waits below, edaq on the update plank writhes in protest
06:33 iwB ;p
06:33 edaq ha
06:34 Out`Of`Control edaq:  start game in terminal, create single player game and join
06:34 iwB whooops my minetest 0.14.0 Crashed again xD xD xD
06:34 edaq hm
06:34 iwB I should remove the bow mod
06:35 iwB done
06:35 edaq every time I start it I start it in terminal
06:35 edaq I dont use launchers much
06:35 edaq mostly my terminal
06:35 edaq minetest &
06:35 edaq or just minetest
06:36 edaq cant host a mintest on my pc though
06:36 edaq same weird port issues that I have with wz and 0ad
06:36 iwB who ever did this? /giveme air 10
06:36 edaq wow
06:36 edaq air
06:36 edaq under water probably
06:36 iwB its a minetest secret xD
06:37 edaq that works
06:37 iwB yup
06:37 edaq I did not know that
06:37 edaq everywhere?
06:37 iwB yes
06:37 edaq thats awesome
06:37 iwB Another Fact!
06:37 iwB There is a minetest secret block
06:37 iwB it is /giveme cloud 10000
06:37 edaq lol
06:37 iwB cloud cant be mine although you are in creative
06:38 edaq ah
06:38 edaq so it is a cloud
06:38 iwB there is a way to mine cloud. just need to download the maptools mod
06:38 iwB yup
06:38 edaq ah
06:38 edaq so you can stick a cloud anywhere
06:38 iwB yes
06:38 edaq *edaq polishes his mustache with devious plans
06:38 iwB also if you get the air block..
06:38 iwB it will write
06:38 edaq write
06:39 iwB ''Air (you hacker you!)''
06:39 edaq ?
06:39 edaq lol
06:39 iwB Which mean sometime
06:39 edaq that is hilarious
06:39 iwB when you mine block..
06:39 iwB you get air
06:39 iwB but it rarely happend
06:39 edaq lol
06:39 iwB so if you get air. which mean you are a hacker XD
06:39 edaq can you put air in chest
06:39 iwB yup
06:40 edaq lol
06:40 iwB hah I just did it /giveme air 10
06:40 edaq is there any way to control monsters in game
06:40 edaq like to tame them
06:40 edaq some secret block to generate them
06:41 iwB there isnt monster in the game
06:41 Out`Of`Control you can spawn them
06:41 edaq really
06:41 iwB but you need to download mob mod
06:41 edaq nice
06:41 edaq oh
06:41 edaq darn it
06:41 edaq lol
06:41 iwB well I just saw a monster now
06:41 iwB tree monster
06:41 edaq so will /giveme air 10 work on multiplayer too
06:41 iwB some villagers tried to kill it
06:41 edaq ah
06:41 iwB yup
06:41 iwB it work
06:41 edaq villagers are they players
06:41 iwB cloud also work
06:42 iwB no
06:42 iwB its a mod
06:42 edaq ah
06:42 edaq lol
06:42 edaq got it
06:42 edaq like monster mod
06:42 iwB yeah
06:42 edaq when you spawn mob
06:42 edaq can you keep it
06:42 edaq or does it try to kill you also
06:42 iwB Yup a monster tried to kill me
06:42 iwB stone monster
06:42 iwB and sand monster
06:43 edaq lol
06:43 iwB sand monster are the most weak mob
06:43 edaq lo
06:43 edaq lol
06:43 edaq /giveme 10 sandmonster
06:43 iwB now a villager name Jennifer try to kill 2 monster
06:43 edaq lol
06:43 iwB SHE DIED ROFL!
06:43 edaq what server are you on iwB
06:44 iwB No server
06:44 iwB just singleplayer
06:44 edaq crap
06:44 edaq still cant get it to work
06:44 iwB my wifi is weak now
06:44 edaq I will try a reinstall tomorrow
06:44 iwB so I just play singleplayer
06:44 iwB with some noob villager
06:44 iwB eh a villager died
06:44 edaq do you have a router
06:44 edaq iwB,
06:45 iwB I guess so
06:45 edaq you could run an ethernet cable to your router
06:45 edaq directly
06:45 edaq less weak
06:45 edaq I do
06:45 edaq hate wifi
06:45 edaq my xon gets all choppy
06:45 iwB my wifi is terrible cause my father forgot to top up it
06:45 edaq I can do mid air camping with it
06:45 edaq top up it?
06:46 iwB yup
06:46 edaq what do you mean
06:46 edaq sry
06:46 iwB Buy it
06:46 edaq like package upgrade
06:46 edaq oh
06:46 iwB $30 for 3GB
06:46 edaq so you are using public wifi
06:46 edaq or are you using lame
06:46 edaq 2kib/sec
06:46 iwB home wifi
06:46 edaq ah
06:46 iwB What the heck..
06:46 edaq what is your home connection speed
06:47 iwB A vilager in singleplayer...
06:47 iwB had a weird skin
06:47 edaq really
06:47 edaq how weird
06:47 iwB and it look very tall
06:47 edaq lol
06:47 edaq what skin
06:47 iwB Sam skin
06:47 iwB but lol
06:47 iwB it really tall
06:47 edaq I need that skin....
06:47 iwB Its a default skin!
06:47 edaq bow in FEAR before my
06:47 edaq oh
06:47 edaq nvm
06:47 edaq lol
06:48 iwB wel im using Corrupted ranger skin now
06:48 iwB well*
06:48 edaq iwB, if your home connection speed is at least 10 mib/sec
06:48 iwB 1Mbps
06:48 edaq you could use etho cable and not notice
06:48 edaq that is home speed
06:48 edaq or just wifi
06:48 iwB yes
06:48 iwB wifi sped
06:48 iwB speed*
06:49 edaq what about the router speed?
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06:49 edaq like wired connection speed
06:49 iwB idk
06:49 edaq go back to the humble wire
06:49 edaq boost your speed
06:49 edaq I do
06:49 iwB I dont have money To boost it!
06:49 edaq cant play wz on wifi
06:49 edaq I mean by using cable cord
06:49 iwB yeah ikr
06:49 edaq ethernet cord iwB
06:50 iwB I cant live without wifi
06:50 edaq wifi is lamer than direct cable
06:50 iwB ethernet?
06:50 edaq ethernet
06:50 edaq yeah
06:50 edaq massive speed boost
06:50 edaq just from moving to cable
06:50 edaq ehthernet cable
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06:50 edaq you could get a cantenna
06:51 iwB I just need to top up the wifi
06:51 edaq that would get you less lag if you stayed with wifi
06:51 iwB because I want to make a server
06:51 edaq you could get cheap server hosting
06:51 iwB Now I get the free one
06:51 iwB 15 Player Max
06:51 edaq I have a mumble server russia hosted
06:51 iwB cool!
06:51 edaq free minetest where
06:51 iwB I use minetesthosting.com
06:52 iwB but I think the web closed for while
06:52 edaq web closed?
06:52 iwB it open for some day
06:52 iwB yeah the web has a free server plan
06:52 iwB so they cant make money .-.
06:52 iwB because they are free plan
06:53 iwB The plan is:
06:53 iwB Free, 1 Month $5, 1 Month $20 and 1 Month $40
06:53 edaq ah
06:53 edaq I got on
06:53 edaq 3users per worls
06:54 edaq world
06:54 iwB if you use 1 Month $5, 1 Month $20 and 1 Month $40 plan you can use to make a server game
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06:54 iwB like zombie game
06:54 edaq close enough for a basic one
06:54 edaq ah
06:54 edaq you could use VPN hosting
06:54 iwB Basic plan yeah..
06:54 iwB I guess so
06:54 edaq I have a research and dev server
06:54 iwB Can I join?
06:54 edaq sure
06:54 iwB tell me the Ip address
06:54 iwB I will join 1 day
06:54 edaq services are still being set up
06:55 edaq we added a minetest world, and site
06:55 edaq email hosting or irc soon
06:55 iwB mmmmmm k
06:55 edaq (We are setting it up for other stuff too
06:55 iwB oooooooooh
06:55 edaq iwB, I have a channel I can be reached on if you would like some more info)
06:56 edaq btw iwB how old are you?
06:56 edaq just curious
06:56 iwB Me?
06:56 edaq yeah
06:56 iwB ehh 7
06:56 edaq lol
06:56 edaq your faster at minetest than me
06:56 edaq 21
06:56 edaq lol
06:57 iwB lol
06:57 iwB im 12
06:57 edaq makes me want to practice more
06:57 edaq ok 7 or 12
06:57 iwB 12
06:57 edaq average is 10 then
06:57 edaq sry I like some odd math
06:57 edaq anyway
06:57 iwB same :D
06:57 edaq we will soon have a minetest server on the vpn
06:58 edaq and maybe a wz server
06:58 edaq (if we can get a console version for hosting)
06:58 iwB meh im not too good at making server
06:58 edaq you could connect to it when your internet is back up
06:58 iwB yup :D
06:58 edaq we have education software now also
06:59 edaq working on an edu minetest server
06:59 edaq weird combination
06:59 edaq but might be great for minetest
06:59 iwB mm
06:59 iwB we cant make Survival Server
06:59 edaq why
06:59 iwB there is lot of ppl dosent play survival server
06:59 iwB we need something new
06:59 edaq I do
07:00 edaq I will play most of them out there
07:00 edaq the educational version is made to improve IQ test score
07:00 edaq like Cogmed or Luminous
07:00 iwB I think so
07:01 edaq We decided to make it on the server yesterday
07:01 edaq already have a running one
07:01 edaq just need to add mods
07:01 iwB do you know how to add mods
07:01 edaq the cofounder does
07:02 edaq i work on scripting
07:02 edaq and sites
07:02 edaq (planning to get started on some of the mods soon)
07:02 iwB Good luck then :D
07:02 edaq yeah
07:02 edaq iwB, do you have trouble with grades
07:03 edaq if you do you may like the educational server
07:03 edaq when its ready
07:03 iwB yup xD
07:14 iwB where is everyone
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08:12 iwB so quiet
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08:43 iwB welcome back yang2003
08:43 yang2003 ok
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09:12 Out`Of`Control anyone use xban mod?
09:12 iwB yup
09:13 Derr how is xban I've had my eye on it for awhile now
09:13 Out`Of`Control is there option to see ban list?
09:13 iwB yes
09:13 Out`Of`Control xban2
09:13 Out`Of`Control how?
09:13 iwB its /xban_gui
09:13 Out`Of`Control iwB:  i want to see whole list not search one by one
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09:16 Derr have you checked the world file?
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09:17 Out`Of`Control yes but its a mess, as all users are in it
09:18 Derr Out`Of`Control I'm not sure about xban but I know regular bans are stored in a text file located in the world folder
09:19 Out`Of`Control Derr:  you are right, xban2 has its own DB. I wonder if there is option to see ban list
09:19 Out`Of`Control in game
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09:22 Derr I'm checking out xban on githun now
09:24 Derr Out`Of`Control it looks like players.iplist.v2 and ipban.txt is written to
09:25 Derr xban.entries may be what you are looking for
09:26 Out`Of`Control Derr:  there is file xban.db all ip's are stored in it, not only the banned one
09:28 Derr I understand and you only want the banned IPs listed.. I don't see that functionality anywhere in the code
09:28 Out`Of`Control exactly
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09:30 Out`Of`Control Derr: thanks for help
09:32 Derr I think kaeza thought he was writing in TI-basic I see lots of single letter variables in this code
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09:56 Megaf edaq, Hi...
10:04 edaq hi Megaf
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12:32 iwB mmm so quiet
12:35 VanessaE it's still early.
12:35 VanessaE hm.  JamesTait missed doing his usual "happy $foo day" message.
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12:56 JamesTait VanessaE, I just cut down on the channels I post it to.  Happy Chocolate Ice Cream Day!
12:57 VanessaE oh that is so ironic.
12:57 VanessaE [06-07 09:00] <jandcando> Yeah, this is my first one :) building a vanilla pursa i3
12:57 VanessaE [06-07 09:00] <VanessaE> mine's also an i3, not quite vanilla anymore though
12:57 VanessaE [06-07 09:00] <VanessaE> (it's bordering on Rocky Road at this point)
12:57 VanessaE (an i3 refers to a 3d printer)
12:58 VanessaE you have to keep posting it here, too.  it's become a sort of fixture of the channel (not sure when you stopped doing it, though, I'm rarely on so early anymore)
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14:51 swift110 sup all
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16:48 AlphaFritz Hello
16:48 AlphaFritz I've read about a minetest's setting that, when connected on a multiplayer server, can save the map.sqlite that the client gets from the server. Now where is saved the map.sqlite file?
16:50 Krock it's in your worlds directory
16:50 Krock in a new directory which is named after the server you connected to
16:50 swift110 hmm
16:50 AlphaFritz Thanks
16:50 Krock (at least the last time I checked it was that way)
16:50 AlphaFritz Does it also save the server's mods?
16:51 Krock no, the client does not know what mods are runing on the server
16:51 Krock since it only gets the textures and commands what to do with them
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16:52 Krock in theory you could extract all textures from the server out of your media cache directory but that's a crazy amount of work
16:53 AlphaFritz Can i extract also the server's mods from the cache memory?
16:53 AlphaFritz Can i also extract*
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17:01 AlphaFritz See you soon
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17:49 JamesTait VanessaE, your wish is my command - #minetest is added back to the channels I post daily greetings to (even if I'm idle here for the rest of the day).
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18:15 swift110 ok
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19:02 Megaf what's this /gamemode 1?
19:02 Megaf Some new players will enter my server and just type /gamemode 1
19:03 Amaz I think that in Minecraft that command switches you into creative...
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19:17 asie yeah
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19:18 Calinou it does, yes
19:18 Calinou I should join Minetest servers, type "idspispopd" and leave
19:18 Calinou that'd leave people puzzled, lol
19:23 mransom lol
19:23 CWz i had someplayers do that on my server too
19:23 CWz seen some even try to change time
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21:03 backnforth Hi
21:03 backnforth How do I add protection blocks onto my server?
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21:07 rom1504 take them and put them in
21:08 backnforth I assume I'm to use Zeg9's mod
21:08 backnforth where do I put its source?
21:16 backnforth how do I include it?
21:21 Niebieski Did you check the Wiki ?
21:21 Niebieski http://wiki.minetest.net
21:26 Niebieski http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
21:27 backnforth Niebieski, is that you?
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21:32 rom1504 no, that's someone else
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22:00 cat5e can anyone put "RTFM" as the first rule in the rules list?
22:01 rom1504 you mean the constitution ?
22:01 xunto There are special rules for people that play minetest?(
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22:15 redblade hi
22:16 redblade does anyone know if tenplus1's github mods are considered "stable", or do the numbered releases continue to be stable and github not?
22:17 redblade there have been changes made but i dont see them on the forum changelogs, while version numbers were updated pretty fast
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22:50 Niebieski heyalex: ???
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23:37 Fixer redblade: stable enough, he just tidies the code
23:40 redblade he added intllib though and i dont want to update my servers if that isn't the "stable release" yet
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