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Hijiri |
Are there any skins mods that make use of the new HTTP API? |
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Calinou |
Hijiri: it's not possible to hand textures to clients at runtime |
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Calinou |
so, no |
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Hijiri |
Oh, right |
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Milan1 |
the coordinates Trying to store id=60230 statically but block (22,1,19) already contains 128 objects. Forcing delete. <- need to be x16, right? |
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Milan1 |
because the affected chunk..is just air. |
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swift110 |
hey |
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digitalmouse |
greetings, programs! \o/ |
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Fixer |
Milan1: x16? |
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Milan1 |
22*16 => 352 |
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Milan1 |
Fixer: |
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Fixer |
Milan1: it means block contained a lot of objects, so to avoid crash or other crap, engine deleted that objects from the block |
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Milan1 |
Fixer: but it does it again and again but the calculated chunk is just air |
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Milan1 |
and it causes peer disconnects |
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Fixer |
don't know :( |
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Milan1 |
this is why i asked if 22*16 is the correct calculation |
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Fixer |
btw, i've noticed that few server have broken hud :/ |
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digitalmouse |
running old version? |
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Fixer |
i'm running newest one |
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Fixer |
probably broken mod again, damned |
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digitalmouse |
i experienced broken minecar/track stuff last year when updating a few mods at once... got busy in real life, so never did figure out what caused it. i was proud of it running at all at the time... on a Raspberry Pi Model A as a server... got my nephew and his friend playing on it over the net from the other side of Europe. :) got a spare Rpi2 and Rpi3... might have to start up another server for fun and practice my |
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digitalmouse |
python |
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Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: i had same issue with my map |
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Out`Of`Control |
Fixer: yeah i have buggy hud, is there new version? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: try to run /clearobjects |
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Fixer |
Out`Of`Control: what hud are you using? |
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Fixer |
Out`Of`Control: it is not the first server with this |
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Out`Of`Control |
https://github.com/BlockMen/hud_hunger |
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kat_ |
Hi, guys, I minetest 0.4.14, and the download for peaceful npc is so old (2012), and I can't get them to work. Does anyone know of a newer download for npc characters, or what am I doing wrong? |
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nrzkt |
kat_, use the tenplus1 mod for mobs |
| 17:34 |
kat_ |
ok ummm so I just google tenplus1 mod? Sorry a newb here |
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kat_ |
I see it thanks! |
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Hijiri |
If you leave out a field in a physics override table, does it default to the default value, or does it denote "don't change this override" |
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KaadmY |
i think it defaults |
| 18:36 |
Hijiri |
Ok, thanks |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Tell irrlicht if we handle a key or not. fa6b21a https://git.io/vrMHH (2016-05-26T20:33:33+02:00) |
| 18:38 |
Milan1 |
i.... still have two chunks with too much objects where no objects can be found...its...still causes disconnects by peer... |
| 18:40 |
Milan1 |
something i can wo with worldedit maybe? |
| 18:41 |
Milan1 |
*do |
| 18:41 |
KaadmY |
Milan1: what mods? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Milan1 have you tried /clearobjects |
| 18:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
? |
| 18:42 |
KaadmY |
some mods(like technic and pipeworks) use tons of entities |
| 18:42 |
Milan1 |
clearobjects would cause a downtime over ~4h. i tryed to clear the objects with worldedit already |
| 18:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yikes |
| 18:42 |
Milan1 |
there arent pipeworks/mesecons stuff in this region |
| 18:43 |
Milan1 |
thats the confusing thing, one chunk is just air |
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thefamilygrog66 |
air is a node, not an object |
| 18:43 |
Milan1 |
tell this minetest :D |
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Milan1 |
is there nothing else i can try? |
| 18:45 |
est31 |
Milan1, there is clearobjects fast |
| 18:45 |
est31 |
you can try that |
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thefamilygrog66 |
^^ |
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Milan1 |
est31: but doesnt it will clear in every new loaded chunk also? |
| 18:45 |
est31 |
yes |
| 18:46 |
est31 |
it will clear when loading them |
| 18:46 |
Milan1 |
but so i need to find our every player with a mob farm to safe the mobs somehow >.< |
| 18:46 |
est31 |
thats the difference between normal clearobjects and clearobjects fast |
| 18:47 |
est31 |
normal clearobjects force-loads each block |
| 18:47 |
est31 |
and then clears all its objects |
| 18:47 |
est31 |
and clearobjects fast just adds a little post it node to each block |
| 18:47 |
est31 |
"please clear me when loading" |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Milan1: is there any indication of what type(s) of object you're dealing with? |
| 18:47 |
est31 |
and it clears all loaded blocks |
| 18:48 |
Milan1 |
est31: this is basicly very nice but still removes all the mobs also. sure, for admins and devs its nice but it will make players cry. thats my problem. Also is marked this area and did a clearobjects with worldedit already |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
yeah |
| 18:49 |
Milan1 |
somehow the highes value worldedit got was 8 objects... |
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Milan1 |
the resulting disconnects by peer may be the biggest problem in this case.. |
| 18:51 |
Milan1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4067 |
| 18:52 |
Milan1 |
oh, no previewbot - Canceling: No player for peer_id when too much objects on the map #4067 |
| 18:52 |
Milan1 |
(i am that tchncs there) |
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Out`Of`Control |
can i add other mods to minetest mods team? |
| 19:02 |
Milan1 |
calculating the coordinates with 16 like 22*16 is still correct if the servers do a forcing delete? |
| 19:02 |
Hijiri |
Out`Of`Control: The process for submitting a mod is on the minetest-mods site, let me see if I have the link |
| 19:03 |
Hijiri |
Out`Of`Control: https://minetest-mods.github.io/ |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hijiri: thank you |
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Milan1 |
jey, this time /me got the peer disconnect -.- |
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Milan1 |
so...i have to live with it? |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
what peer disconnect? |
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Fixer |
Milan1: try newer minetest, there was some fixes with connecting |
| 19:48 |
Hijiri |
newer minetest also has /clearobjects quick, but I don't know how quick it actually is |
| 19:53 |
Fixer |
Hijiri: it is quicker, it processes only loaded blocks |
| 19:55 |
Hijiri |
oh, est31 already mentioned |
| 19:58 |
Milan1 |
Fixer: i am one commit behind master... |
| 19:58 |
Fixer |
hmm |
| 19:59 |
Fixer |
Milan1: does server goes into coma-like state? |
| 19:59 |
Milan1 |
the peer disconnects comes with that force delete |
| 19:59 |
Milan1 |
no |
| 19:59 |
Milan1 |
i wanna figure out why there are too many because its in nearly impossible areas but i dont know how. |
| 20:06 |
Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: happens after you run /clearobjects? |
| 20:11 |
Milan1 |
Out`Of`Control: if i run a regular /clearobjects, my server is down for about 4 - 5 hours and every player lost the pets |
| 20:11 |
Milan1 |
*lose ...or...some english word^^ |
| 20:13 |
est31 |
loses |
| 20:13 |
Milan1 |
Out`Of`Control: but u calculated the chunk coordinates with 16 (xx*16) and used //clearobjects in the specific areas with worldedit. there the highest number of objects its deleted was ~8. after some minutes everything happens again. |
| 20:14 |
Milan1 |
thanks est31 |
| 20:14 |
Milan1 |
*happened |
| 20:14 |
Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: can you paste error from your logs |
| 20:17 |
Milan1 |
Out`Of`Control: its just the regular too much objects, forcing delete error multible times, randomly follwed by ERROR[Server]: Server::ProcessData(): Canceling: No player for peer_id=210 disconnecting peer! ... |
| 20:18 |
Milan1 |
Trying to store id=23509 statically but block (17,0,18) already contains 128 objects. Forcing delete. |
| 20:19 |
Out`Of`Control |
i had similar, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2610#issuecomment-144180781 thats how i solve it |
| 20:20 |
Milan1 |
i am https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2610#issuecomment-166958560 |
| 20:20 |
Milan1 |
^^ |
| 20:21 |
Milan1 |
i dont have the specific block id. as i think to know thats the chunk coordinates |
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| 20:21 |
Milan1 |
so i have an area of 16x16 with one or more blocks with too many objects |
| 20:22 |
Milan1 |
one of the two areas i in the air and conains up to two stone nodes. |
| 20:22 |
Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: i had many areas with too many entities, logs always show same spot |
| 20:23 |
Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: make copy of map, try to run clearobject on whole map, and see if its gone |
| 20:25 |
Milan1 |
but...why the whole map if i know the affected areas? |
| 20:25 |
Milan1 |
as i told, i already did this in this areas. |
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Milan1 |
est31: why is #2610 still open? wasnt there a commit to prevent the fix_too_many_entities? |
| 20:28 |
Out`Of`Control |
Milan1: i run clearobjects on whole map, then use est31 tool problem is gone. Map had 5 areas with too many entities, but logs always show 1 area |
| 20:28 |
est31 |
Milan1, its closed, no? |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
Milan1: or go into area with that block and do /clearobjects quick |
| 20:29 |
est31 |
Milan1, and yes there was a commit to prevent it |
| 20:29 |
Milan1 |
est31: oh...im very sorry didnt saw it :o |
| 20:30 |
Milan1 |
Fixer: i already did this with worldedit in a whole area which contains the affected chunks. |
| 20:31 |
Milan1 |
*big area |
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| 20:56 |
Milan1 |
just one thing because two opinions: /clearobjects fast cleans -every- chunk, right? Because this would be a near infinite process on big maps... |
| 20:56 |
est31 |
Milan1, it cleans every mapblock thats loaded |
| 20:57 |
est31 |
and after that it stores a timestamp |
| 20:57 |
est31 |
and every mapblock that gets loaded by minetest gets compared with that timestamp |
| 20:57 |
est31 |
if the mapblock was stored before the timestamp, it gets its objects cleared |
| 20:58 |
est31 |
so its not an infinite process, and much faster |
| 20:58 |
Milan1 |
now i see, thanks est31 |
| 20:58 |
est31 |
but loading blocks is a *bit* more slowed down |
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Out`Of`Control |
est31: can i play and run clearobjects fast at same time? |
| 21:01 |
est31 |
yes |
| 21:01 |
Out`Of`Control |
i know that its imporible with /clearobjects |
| 21:02 |
est31 |
yes |
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Out`Of`Control |
cool |
| 21:02 |
est31 |
whatever imporible means |
| 21:02 |
Out`Of`Control |
imposible |
| 21:03 |
Out`Of`Control |
any tools to delete parts of map? |
| 21:03 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
how do u claim an area? |
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Out`Of`Control |
AlyssaVahlberg: depends on server mods |
| 21:04 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
how do u figure out the mods? |
| 21:05 |
Out`Of`Control |
some use markers other landrush and so on |
| 21:05 |
Out`Of`Control |
i don't have clearobjects fast, need update |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
well im in OldCoder wizard school |
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Out`Of`Control |
read signs at spawn |
| 21:07 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
ok |
| 21:08 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
there iz no signs at spwn |
| 21:08 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
*spawn |
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Out`Of`Control |
est31: its part of minetest or WE mod? |
| 21:10 |
est31 |
minetest |
| 21:10 |
est31 |
0.4.14 has it |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
peaches007 |
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Out`Of`Control |
thanks |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
NO IGNORE THAT PLZ! |
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Out`Of`Control |
your password? |
| 21:13 |
Out`Of`Control |
change it |
| 21:13 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
ok |
| 21:13 |
AlyssaVahlberg |
om on minetest and irc at the same time and i forgot to click minetest window |
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KaadmY |
;) |
| 21:13 |
KaadmY |
everybody makes mistakes |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
*im |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
am i the only 1 that lags when the media is loading? |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
will someone join wizard school plz im lonely |
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Milan1 |
is item_entity_ttl = 900 a default value? |
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Amaz |
Milan1, I believe so. |
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Milan1 |
k, thanks |
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Amaz |
np |
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