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rocx |
that's certainly a lot of lav- |
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rocx |
'scuse me, /magma/. |
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Bandoleer07 |
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courtney |
new server up , everyone welcome, survival style, ethereal- not for the faint of heart....called yomama |
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bandoleer07 |
hello |
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sfan5 |
hi |
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bandoleer07 |
hello sfan5 |
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Megaf |
Hello |
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bandoleer07 |
im looking for people to test out a server, tell me what your honest opinion is, comments suggestions...the like |
| 14:14 |
STHGOM |
what server? |
| 14:15 |
bandoleer07 |
yomama is the name |
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sfan5 |
!server yomama |
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sfan5 |
damn where is the bot again |
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sfan5 |
!server yomama |
| 14:19 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: YoMamas Extreme Survival | 107.170.35.215:30050 | Clients: 2/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 77ms |
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Calinou |
i herd yo mama hosts servers |
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bandoleer07 |
rofl what? |
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H-H-H |
!server yomama |
| 14:44 |
MinetestBot |
H-H-H: YoMamas Extreme Survival | 107.170.35.215:30050 | Clients: 2/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 79ms |
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STHGOM |
has formspecs gotten an update that will break some mods recently? |
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PilzAdam |
STHGOM, no |
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STHGOM |
hmm. why am i not seeing some buttons on rubens city vs city diplomacy /team page? |
| 15:08 |
STHGOM |
execpt on older versions |
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STHGOM |
of minetest |
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PilzAdam |
STHGOM, IIRC there is an issue about rendering order of formspec elements in the issue tracker |
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STHGOM |
ok |
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STHGOM |
ty |
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Telesight |
Hello all ... Is it possible to renew the rollback DB (rollback.sqlite), it grows a little bit out of control ? |
| 16:51 |
Fixer |
don't know, but just curious, how much out of control? |
| 16:52 |
Fixer |
i'm curious myself on how it works |
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Telesight |
Fixer: > 12 GB |
| 17:26 |
Fixer |
Telesight, not bad |
| 17:27 |
Fixer |
Telesight, are you low on space? |
| 17:27 |
Fixer |
it is terabytes these days, unless you host it on crappy hosting or even crappy notebook |
| 17:27 |
Telesight |
Not at all, but rollbacks seems to take longer ... |
| 17:28 |
Fixer |
yeah, i don't remember if rollback was optimised or in PR stage |
| 17:29 |
Telesight |
PR? |
| 17:30 |
Fixer |
pull request |
| 17:30 |
Fixer |
i think somebody was working on speeding it up, i don't know how that ended |
| 17:30 |
Telesight |
ah ok |
| 17:31 |
Telesight |
Ok I have to go and come back later, hopefully someone has an answer ;-) |
| 17:31 |
Fixer |
try asking on forum too |
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Fixer |
damn, forum search sucks balls literally |
| 18:22 |
KaadmY |
"literally" |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
modern forums have a much better search |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
but people are very attached to phpBB for some reason |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
found it via google (1st entry) |
| 18:24 |
Fixer |
was searching for stairsplus |
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cimbakahn |
If you have installed a subgame into this folder ----> /home/cimbakahn/.minetest/games and you are playing your game, does it utilize any of the default mods from here ----> /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods |
| 19:27 |
Fixer |
not sure how liquids work, if i take a 1 water source with baket in a middle of the lake, it will replace it with another source, but it is not working with smaller lava lake |
| 19:39 |
cimbakahn |
Are you trying to get rid of lava? |
| 19:41 |
cimbakahn |
I have got a new excellent way to get rid of lava or water. |
| 19:44 |
air |
I cant join remote servers if my client has https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/8dbf68331386f5f6a40ff0f0a77f5390bdca60b9 , can it be disabled via config or only a patch? |
| 19:46 |
PilzAdam |
Fixer, lava is not renewable, i.e. 2 lava sources won't create a new source |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
ah |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
damned ;) |
| 19:48 |
cimbakahn |
Fixer: Here is your solution for water and lava ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1943 |
| 19:48 |
PilzAdam |
cimbakahn, mod loading does not change depending on the game you play |
| 19:48 |
cimbakahn |
Problem is i can't get the download on version o.2 |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
cimbakahn, thanks but PilzAdam naled it |
| 19:48 |
cimbakahn |
? |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
cimbakahn, i wanted to multiply lava |
| 19:48 |
cimbakahn |
I had a problem several times in mg_villages where when i approached a village it started on fire, and i don't understand whay it happened? |
| 19:49 |
cimbakahn |
Fixer: Ok, then that was the wrong mod for you. |
| 19:50 |
cimbakahn |
whay is why |
| 19:51 |
Fixer |
Sokomine, ^^ |
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KaadmY |
cimbakahn: subgames are separate from each other |
| 20:10 |
KaadmY |
custom subgames will be standalone and never use anything from minetest_game |
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cimbakahn |
I see. So if a subgame requires a dependency for a mod it must come from its own mods folder correct? |
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diamondking14 |
~hello |
| 21:53 |
ShadowBot |
Hello diamondking14! |
| 21:53 |
sofar |
!mod digilines |
| 21:53 |
MinetestBot |
sofar: Digilines [minetest-mod-digilines] by Jeija - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5263 |
| 21:54 |
diamondking14 |
~whereis VanessaE |
| 21:54 |
rubenwardy |
~seen VanessaE |
| 21:54 |
ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: I saw VanessaE in #minetest 2 days, 11 hours, 43 minutes, and 45 seconds ago saying "I said PLAY NICE!" |
| 21:54 |
* VanessaE |
hides |
| 21:54 |
diamondking14 |
oops wrong command XD |
| 21:54 |
rocx |
isn't that kind of what /whowas for? |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
How's it going, VanessaE? |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
it's going |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
I'm watching Doctor Who and drinking tea |
| 21:56 |
rubenwardy |
I cliche myself |
| 21:56 |
diamondking14 |
im sat watching an IRC |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
bleh. Doctor Who. I'm watching Star Trek. :) |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
(DS9, S5E21, "Soldiers of the Empire") |
| 21:56 |
diamondking14 |
may the 4th be with you XD |
| 21:57 |
Calinou |
hi rubenwardy |
| 21:57 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: my desktop now runs Antergos (Arch Linux derivative), and laptop dual boots Windows and Antergos, in UEFI mode |
| 21:57 |
Calinou |
I was able to follow a full day of uni classes with only GNU/Linux xD |
| 21:57 |
diamondking14 |
my laptop runs Linux Mint 17.3 |
| 21:57 |
diamondking14 |
my other laptop runs Windows XP |
| 21:58 |
Calinou |
wow |
| 21:58 |
Calinou |
you really should switch |
| 21:58 |
diamondking14 |
brcause it can't take any other systwn |
| 21:58 |
diamondking14 |
system* |
| 21:58 |
VanessaE |
pretty much any laptop that runs XP can run a modern Linux |
| 21:58 |
diamondking14 |
something called NVIDIa stops it |
| 21:59 |
VanessaE |
nVidia is your video device |
| 21:59 |
rubenwardy |
Too scared to try installing GNU/Linux on my UEFI laptop |
| 21:59 |
VanessaE |
(or possibly your north/southbridge chipset) |
| 21:59 |
diamondking14 |
i don't know why I get an error |
| 21:59 |
* sofar |
surrounded by thousands of UEFI-based systems running Linux |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: I did it just fine, Cnchi handles UEFI well |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
(Cnchi is Antergos' installer) |
| 21:59 |
diamondking14 |
oh |
| 21:59 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: just saying stuff like "something called X" or "I get an error" does not help people diagnse the problem |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
it has checks when you do manual partitioning, to ensure you created the required partitions |
| 21:59 |
VanessaE |
diagnose* |
| 22:00 |
Calinou |
:( the Star Wars day ended here |
| 22:00 |
diamondking14 |
shall I tell you what the error is? |
| 22:00 |
Calinou |
"may the fifth be with you!" |
| 22:00 |
rubenwardy |
Don't want to goof up my Windows partition :'( |
| 22:00 |
Calinou |
it doesn't work now :< |
| 22:00 |
diamondking14 |
XD |
| 22:00 |
diamondking14 |
its 23:00 here |
| 22:00 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: I had to reinstall Windows in UEFI mode, I wasn't able to dual boot in BIOS mode |
| 22:00 |
rubenwardy |
Star wars day every day |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: not now. I'm just saying when you go to sort out an error, you need to be able to tell people every detail there is about the error. what you did, what the machine did, what the EXACT text of the error was, and what you tried to do to fix it (if anything) |
| 22:01 |
Calinou |
btw I'm using KDE 5.6 |
| 22:01 |
Calinou |
pretty nice desktop |
| 22:01 |
Calinou |
font rendering is awesome with Roboto + tweaked settings, looks like OS X |
| 22:02 |
diamondking14 |
VanessaE: the problem is a GPU lockup |
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VanessaE |
diamondking14: the problem what what, exactly? |
| 22:02 |
VanessaE |
what did you do that instigated this error? |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
with what* |
| 22:03 |
Calinou |
which graphics driver did you use? |
| 22:04 |
diamondking14 |
when I try to boot any Linux on my Fujitsu Esprimo Mobile v6555, an error popped up after the Ubuntu load screen Taft says "(random bunch of numbers) GPU lockup - switching to software Fbcon. |
| 22:04 |
Calinou |
and what's the GPU? |
| 22:04 |
diamondking14 |
that says* |
| 22:04 |
Calinou |
if you have issues with the default driver (Nouveau), try a more recent distribution |
| 22:04 |
Calinou |
Linux Mint is not exactly recent :) |
| 22:04 |
sfan5 |
more recent? |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: that's not a fatal error if the machine was able to show you the error :) |
| 22:04 |
sfan5 |
when i had issues with nouveau |
| 22:04 |
sfan5 |
i just blacklisted it in the kernel cmdline |
| 22:05 |
Calinou |
you can do that too |
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Calinou |
sfan5: I'm waiting for Nouveau devs to add reclocking to Fermi :( |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
i just use the binary drivers from nvidia |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
:shR: |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I can't speak for nVidia but in the case of AMD, gallium drivers are finally to a point where I can tolerate them. |
| 22:06 |
diamondking14 |
it doesn't even not to the install a ten - it shows a mouse cursor - and a lubuntu load screen - and that it - until 3 minutes later when the Linux terminal pops up and says that error I just described. |
| 22:06 |
diamondking14 |
doesnt even boot to the lubuntu install* |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: yep, exactly |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
sfan5: that's what I do too, on both machines |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
not exactly great |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
although on Optimus sytems, you can suspend reliably, and you can have native-resolution consoles |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
unlike NVIDIA-only systems |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: then do what Calinou said and try a more recent distrubution. |
| 22:07 |
rocx |
don't know if i ever did get an answer to this last time i asked, but what *exactly* does the [E] key do in minetest? |
| 22:07 |
diamondking14 |
ive had this problem since I got the laptop. |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: download the latest Xubuntu image and try booting it |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
primusrun has better performance than optirun for running games btw |
| 22:07 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nouveau-boost-perf&num=1 |
| 22:08 |
Calinou |
Nouveau is getting quite fast |
| 22:08 |
diamondking14 |
Calinou, VanessaE: I have tried Ubuntu 16.04 and Ubuntu 15.10 on there |
| 22:08 |
Calinou |
rocx: the E key can be used for moving fast while fast_mode is enabled, or to descend ladders (if the option is enabled) |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
gallium is still slower than fglrx, but not so much slower that I can't deal with it, at least. |
| 22:08 |
Calinou |
additionally, it can be used by mods |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: try Xubuntu. not Ubuntu. |
| 22:09 |
rocx |
aaah. |
| 22:09 |
diamondking14 |
okay - i will try Xubuntu 16.04 if I can get the iso |
| 22:09 |
* rocx |
should look into making it view things or toggle doors. |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
diamondking14: if that doesn't work, try Debian (I use 8.2) |
| 22:09 |
diamondking14 |
okay |
| 22:09 |
diamondking14 |
thanks all :) |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
good luck |
| 22:10 |
Calinou |
maybe your hardware just stinks :P |
| 22:10 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 22:10 |
diamondking14 |
lol maybe |
| 22:10 |
diamondking14 |
my brother had the same problem on his old laptop - his was NVIDIA aswell. |
| 22:10 |
Calinou |
I was lucky to land on a decent laptop with regards to GNU/Linux support here |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
Acer Aspire V Nitro, 17" with i7+GTX 960M |
| 22:11 |
diamondking14 |
cool |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
battery life isn't great, but it isn't great on Windows either |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
only ~3 hours in office/web usage :( |
| 22:11 |
diamondking14 |
my Toshiba laptop's battery sucks |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
there's an ASUS with the same specs, and with Ultra HD display and 512 GB PCI-E SSD, with 4h30 battery life in web usage |
| 22:11 |
diamondking14 |
20 minutes is the most I got out of it. |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
it is more expensive, also much newer |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
I would have loved a laptop like that :( |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
also it's 15.6", not 17.3", so it's easier to carry around and a tad lighter |
| 22:12 |
diamondking14 |
i had an ASUS laptop ran windows 8.1 it broke within a week of upgrading to 8.1 honestly |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
that's Windows :) |
| 22:13 |
diamondking14 |
yep lol |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
yeah, I had an ASUS die on me, it refused to even POST |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
it was ~4 years old |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
and is why I got that Acer |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
it worked fine for me, too bad |
| 22:13 |
diamondking14 |
heh - my Grandma has Win 10 (ugh) |
| 22:14 |
diamondking14 |
move tried to play MT on it before - it doesn't work fast enough. |
| 22:14 |
Calinou |
I run Windows 10 at uni too |
| 22:14 |
diamondking14 |
ive* |
| 22:14 |
Calinou |
yes, Minetest seems to be slower on Windows for some reason |
| 22:14 |
diamondking14 |
all of Windows' graphics I suppose? |
| 22:14 |
Calinou |
specifically Minetest I'd say |
| 22:15 |
diamondking14 |
i run win 7 on a tower computer ( Dell OptiPlex 755) |
| 22:15 |
Calinou |
my desktop runs only Antergos |
| 22:15 |
Calinou |
I try to steer clear from Windows because it's not a good development platform, also its font rendering is pretty bad even in 2016 :/ |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
also it's proprietary and paid :p |
| 22:16 |
diamondking14 |
I have a slow netbook - it runs Xubuntu 14.04 |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
if Linux is FOSS, Windows is PCSS |
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* Calinou |
runs |
| 22:16 |
rocx |
windows is just not a fun experience. |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
indeed |
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* rocx |
is glad he hasn't had to run it in a decade. |
| 22:16 |
diamondking14 |
meh. Linux is my preferred OS |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
Antergos is fun to run, everything is at latest version, and you can get development versions of software in packaged form easily |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
I have GIMP/Krita Git and Scribus SVN |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
thanks AUR :p |
| 22:16 |
rocx |
agh! krita. |
| 22:17 |
rocx |
mypaint > krita. |
| 22:17 |
rocx |
krita never runs without transmogrifying my laptop into a jet turbine. |
| 22:17 |
diamondking14 |
on Linux I use kolourpaint4 - Windows I use the standard paint program |
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Calinou |
wow, using MS Paint… you need lots of courage for that |
| 22:17 |
diamondking14 |
been using it for years :P |
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diamondking14 |
i used to paint pictures for an old friend of mine on MS paint |
| 22:18 |
cimbakahn |
Could you take a copy of the default mods in /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods and use them to begin creating a subgame? |
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sofar |
yes |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
provided you comply with the license if you distribute it |
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cimbakahn |
Do you have to tweak any of them? |
| 22:19 |
diamondking14 |
i have to go - VanessaE I will try the Xubuntu install tomorrow |
| 22:19 |
sofar |
cimbakahn: not unless you want to, no |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
good luck. |
| 22:20 |
diamondking14 |
Thanks |
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diamondking14 |
Huh. I try to log out, but I came back o.O |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
close the page. |
| 22:20 |
diamondking14 |
okay |
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cimbakahn |
So, i have to look at each mods license to be sure it is ok? |
| 22:20 |
Calinou |
all mods included in minetest_game are free software (as in speech) |
| 22:21 |
Calinou |
so you can distribute and modify them legally |
| 22:21 |
Calinou |
I think most use "LGPLv2.1 or later" as license |
| 22:21 |
rocx |
free as in freedom. |
| 22:21 |
VanessaE |
they're cc-by-sa 3.0 I believe? |
| 22:21 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: that's for the textures |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
just as long as you retain license and copyright where needed |
| 22:21 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
cimbakahn: you should always look at all licenses if you are making it available for download, yes |
| 22:22 |
rocx |
VanessaE: CC licenses wouldn't make sense for software, as those are more meant for creative works. textures and sounds would be up to the CC. |
| 22:22 |
sofar |
cimbakahn: never assume it's ok by default :) |
| 22:22 |
rocx |
</pedantic> |
| 22:24 |
cimbakahn |
Ok. I am just doing it for myself, but if i am pleased enough with it later, i might want to share it with friends and collegues. |
| 22:25 |
rocx |
sofar: oh, perfect timing. what version of MT does the latest torches mod edition require? |
| 22:26 |
sofar |
rocx: it currently requires LBM's, so something maybe a month old at most |
| 22:26 |
sofar |
I could even make that unneeded, but then torches won't auto-convert |
| 22:26 |
rocx |
no clue for that point, since i'm on 0.4.13. |
| 22:26 |
sofar |
that's too old |
| 22:26 |
rocx |
that would explain why torches4 crashes. |
| 22:27 |
sofar |
it'll complain that register_lbm is missing, yes |
| 22:27 |
rocx |
is that the version that has the ability to cast light around whoever's holding a torch? |
| 22:27 |
sofar |
yes |
| 22:27 |
rocx |
aaaaagh. that would've been a cool addition to this subgame that's totally not based on minetest_game for once. |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
it wouldn't be too hard to make it work without the converter |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
just take out the LBM section |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
it just won't work for old worlds |
| 22:28 |
rocx |
yeah probably so. it's just not high enough on my priorities to do it. |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
delete 10 lines? |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/torches/blob/master/init.lua#L74 |
| 22:28 |
rocx |
like i said, trying to create a bunch of other mods for a subgame. |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
74-86 |
| 22:29 |
sofar |
delete those and you're good I think |
| 22:29 |
rocx |
handheld torches aren't quite what i'm going for yet. hopefully MT will have an updated package. |
| 22:29 |
sofar |
one more week, i think |
| 22:29 |
rocx |
this is void linux, which has been a righteous pain in the arxe with the package naming scheme. hopefully it'll get updated by then. |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
oh boy |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
i have Donald Trump on "No Rules" server |
| 22:31 |
rocx |
is he there to make your server great again? |
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| 22:32 |
rocx |
and how bad is your anarchy? |
| 22:32 |
rocx |
is it 2b2t bad or is it people-have-access-to-nuclear-reactors bad? |
| 22:35 |
Fixer |
it is not my server |
| 22:35 |
Fixer |
have not played on 2b2t |
| 22:38 |
rocx |
good. it is a silly place. |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
rocx, i've seen lets play with it though |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
by minetest player |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
rocx, chat was silly |
| 22:44 |
rocx |
i can say i've survived it. |
| 22:44 |
rocx |
last i remember, i was exploring an abandoned castle in search of food. my watermelons were running short. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I recently started receiving "unsupported Nodebox version" errors when trying to log onto certain public servers - any ideas? Running 0.4.13 |
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| 23:34 |
Fixer |
try updating your minetest |
| 23:34 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Fixer, as I mentioned, running 0.4.13 |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
to -dev version |
| 23:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that makes no sense |
| 23:35 |
Fixer |
that message was only for some versions |
| 23:35 |
Fixer |
try using recent build from git |
| 23:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
seriously? why would developers change something that drastic between versions? |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
that error happens with only certain version iirc |
| 23:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ok, weird. I'll try updating |
| 23:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thx |
| 23:41 |
sofar |
the server was updated to a version that doesn't like your client somehow |
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