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sofar |
cornernote: welcome :) |
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hey sofar |
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want to chat here instead of in the gh issue? |
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red-001 |
https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/minetest/minetest/ is down |
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How to communicate? |
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* Mati^1 |
Bad News RealBadAgnel Maciej Kasatkin died today before an hour 12. Polen Time |
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VanessaE |
:'( |
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VanessaE |
nm0i: it was decided that checking for whatever engine feature etc that you need is better. |
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VanessaE |
Mati^1: this is confirmed? :'( |
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Mati^1 |
confirmed what is it |
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Mati^1 |
yes Katarzyna sie sey to me |
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Mati^1 |
sorry i mos going |
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Fixer |
:( |
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germanuel24 |
Can someone help? This just crashed my server and i don't know what caused it 2016-03-24 14:32:26: ERROR[main]: UNRECOVERABLE error occurred. Stopping server. Please fix the following error:2016-03-24 14:32:26: ERROR[main]: Lua: Double fault error from mod '' in callback item_OnPlace(): error in error handling |
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Fixer |
germanuel24, do you have github account? |
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stormchaser3000_ |
O_o |
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stormchaser3000_ |
i wonder what caused that |
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Fixer |
germanuel24, can you provide more details? |
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germanuel24 |
No but i thought about making one... so is this an engine bug likely? |
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stormchaser3000 |
hmmm |
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stormchaser3000 |
i don't know |
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stormchaser3000 |
do you have any mods installed? |
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germanuel24 |
I'll paste the last placement plus full error stack in pastebin one sec |
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nm0i |
How to check if API functions are to expected call format? |
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stormchaser3000 |
or is your version of lua broken |
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stormchaser3000 |
ugh |
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stormchaser3000 |
qua |
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stormchaser3000 |
quassel* is a pain |
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stormchaser3000 |
brb |
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germanuel24 |
I have over 20 mods installed but usually it tells me WHICH mod caused the problem and that field is empty http://pastebin.com/2uS8iAxw |
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germanuel24 |
Link again incase you didn't see http://pastebin.com/2uS8iAxw |
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stormchaser3000 |
ugh |
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stormchaser3000 |
how the h*** do i get rid of my quassel user |
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twoelk |
wait until he times out? |
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twoelk |
germanuel24: before you repair anything make sure you have a backup of the world folder [wink, wink] |
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stormchaser3000 |
no i don't think that will work |
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stormchaser3000 |
on |
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stormchaser3000 |
XD |
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* stormchaser3000 |
shoudl really read the chat before responding |
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germanuel24 |
I just tried to start the server again and it works without problems...so the error seems to only appear when a player places something but the user only placed pine_wood blocks how can that cause errors? |
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twoelk |
verify that |
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twoelk |
for example vines used to crash servers if a block "near" them was changed |
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germanuel24 |
These were the last actions from 30 seconds before the crash http://pastebin.com/dLsuHtR3 |
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Fixer |
this news is so depressing, bad weather, my dog is dying and now RBA |
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sfan5 |
stormchaser3000: if you're logged in your can use /msg NickServ ghost <other nick> |
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twoelk |
germanuel24: "Juanimh tried to dig default:cobble at protected position (-12,13,167)" did that player try to glitch through a protected node? |
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germanuel24 |
I don't know but there are hundrets of those messages in the log and it's the areas mod... is that possible to crash the server by glitching through one? |
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germanuel24 |
one block* |
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sfan5 |
no, servers don't crash because of that |
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germanuel24 |
Shouldn't the error message display a mod name in the ' ' if it was actually caused by a mod? |
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germanuel24 |
I had lots of those errors already and they always had a mod name in that field...so this one is weird to me |
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twoelk |
I think I remember similar messages last when minetest tried to place nodes my server didn't support while using Sokomine's handle_schematics chest to place a building. Interestingly it only crashed on Windows but not Linux. |
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Fixer |
if i understand correctly, Maciej and his friend were Poland ZX spectrum hackers and demoers back then, not sure what he was doing these days though |
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Fixer |
apart from Minetest |
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VanessaE |
he was, until hospitalization, coding professionally. don't remember what it was for though. |
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VanessaE |
and yeah, he was a Z-80 geek back in the day |
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Fixer |
his other nick was Kassoft |
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Fixer |
this is real :( |
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VanessaE |
yeah. |
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Fixer |
I was also Spectrum (soviet clone) user when I was young |
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Fixer |
i mean really young :/ |
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Fixer |
depressing |
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twoelk |
you are unreally young now? |
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Fixer |
close to 30 |
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twoelk |
RBA's video channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0m85fjDhVEu-YPbdz85C9g if you want to study more stuff he was up to |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Maciej Kasatkin - YouTube |
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Fixer |
twoelk, i've seen them, thanks |
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twoelk |
or listen to https://github.com/RealBadAngel/mtmusic |
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red-001 |
http://i.imgur.com/U1Na4.jpg |
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red-001 |
that's a lot of function keys |
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Fixer_ |
looks like my internet is also very weak today |
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nm0i |
red-001: http://mykeyboard.co.uk/microswitch/ |
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domtron |
Linux is awesome. I knew it but this just reiterates the fact. http://maitesin.github.io//Module_prank/ |
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sfan5 |
except that that code will crash the kernel on cpus with some feature |
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Fixer |
i think this is game RBA made back then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKH_RXHrVI |
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sfan5 |
also it will crash if you open a file that has a name with less than 4 characters |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Snake Mania for SAM Coupe - YouTube |
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[git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest: Credits: Make that easy to add/remove 21c4796 https://git.io/vaxmV (2016-03-24T16:56:23+01:00) |
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[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Make `options` local here. 2f64088 https://git.io/vaxmw (2016-03-24T16:52:26+01:00) |
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sfan5 |
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bq7r5/64bit_kernel_support_raspberry_pi_3/ <<< this is why i didn't buy an rpi 3 |
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sfan5 |
64-bit CPU but in reality they just use it as a better 32-bit cpu |
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sfan5 |
it doesn't even work in 64-bit mode yet |
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est |
lol |
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est |
so much waste |
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Fixer |
i feel sorry that i didn't buy that cheap rusperry thing |
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Fixer |
now after devaluation prices are fucking huge |
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red-001 |
rusperry? |
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Krock |
^ RPI |
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VanessaE |
huge? they're only $35... |
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VanessaE |
too bad the Pi-zero already went out of stock, those were just $5. |
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VanessaE |
kinda wish I had gotten one |
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Megaf |
[17:58:22] <28VanessaE> kinda wish I had gotten one |
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Megaf |
same here |
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Megaf |
At least I have the original Model B and the Raspberry Pi 2 |
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Megaf |
and will buy the 3 and zero as soon as I can |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, in local currency |
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VanessaE |
that sucks |
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sofar |
while it's cheap, it's also underpowered |
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sofar |
but yeah, prices are low |
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sofar |
DISCLAIMER: I work for an evil overlord empire chip vendor |
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sofar |
;) |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
well an arduino isn't exactly a powerhouse either but they work well, too :) |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, eastern european currencies devaluated a lot since 1990 and are heavily dependant on imports as soviet enterprises were not market competitive anymore and died off, so many people buy imported goods (including China crap) and it costs much-much more now, but due to outdated EVERYTHING, repressive taxes and corruption we need a lot of reforms to promote opening of new enterprises that produce at least basic goods instead of imported but cost of |
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Fixer |
credit is prohibitive so it is slow process |
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sofar |
if you want to stay small but want more oompf, try a minnowboard max |
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sfan5 |
Fixer: at least it isnt as bad as the russian ruble, right= |
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sfan5 |
s/=/?/ |
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Fixer |
wonder why usa guys complain about "costly" 600usd PC, when people in Eastern Europe buy them for such money and it costs fuck tons more because wages are like 5x lower or so |
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Fixer |
and they don't complain |
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Fixer |
sfan5, little worse, because with also have war and annexation |
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Fixer |
sfan5, thanks to said country |
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Sokomine |
the p2 did cost 35 euro over here, and the new model about 39. the zero was available only bundled with adapters for 15 euro (far from those $5 at the time) |
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Fixer |
sfan5, now we live in uncertainty because some guy in Kremlin has brain problems |
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sfan5 |
hooray russia |
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sfan5 |
/s |
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Calinou |
Fixer, because they don't pay for software? :> |
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Fixer |
sfan5, in Ukraine people even use the term ansluz or how you call it |
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sfan5 |
anschluss |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
yes |
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Fixer |
sfan5, whole event was very similar with same agenda, but I hope it will be solved in some time (or probably very long time) |
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Fixer |
Calinou, pfff in Eastern Europe nobody except enterpises buy software and pirated everything is a norm |
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Fixer |
Calinou, because prices are rediculous, windows for 200 bucks? noone going to pay for that :{ |
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Fixer |
Calinou, it is like monthly wage in already poor country and people just meh |
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Fixer |
also, car prices are rediculous |
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sfan5 |
Fixer: who needs a car when you have war |
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Fixer |
sfan5, well, problem is not war, but government, we have car makers, but they produce kinda crap, so government makes very big tarrifs on imported cars to safeguard local producers |
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Fixer |
sfan5, and people from West Europe say we buy some few years old cars for <1000 usd, and people here like "omg, holy shit" |
| 18:25 |
Fixer |
because here you need a lot more to buy even worse piece of crap that is XX years old |
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Fixer |
sfan5, it is hard to expect peaceful living when this is translated on main russian TV channels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jLmK-8BGu0&feature=youtu.be (subtitles) |
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Fixer |
i will stay of it for now |
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myster |
is no one talking or am I just not able to read chat? |
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Void7 |
just no talking |
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myster |
thanks XD |
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red-001 |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/14/minecraft-becomes-testbed-for-artificial-intelligence-experiment/ |
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myster |
very cool red-001 :P |
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Bro666 |
Hiya |
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Bro666 |
I am new to minetest and I want to experiment a little with Lua mods. |
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Bro666 |
I am trying to write one for singleplayer, when the player joins the local server, a certain node, say a diamond, get's placed in a certain place. |
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Bro666 |
I have tried minetest.place_node({x=-62, y=0, z=-40},{name="default:diamond"}) |
| 19:56 |
Bro666 |
But when I travel to those coordinates, the diamond isn't there. |
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Bro666 |
Have misunderstood the place_node module? |
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Void7 |
no, place_node won't do anything in an unloaded chunk |
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Bro666 |
Ah |
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sofar |
diamonds are not nodes |
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sofar |
they're items |
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Bro666 |
Ah... |
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sofar |
you can place diamond ore, or a diamond block |
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Bro666 |
Right. |
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sofar |
you can also "drop" an item like a diamond |
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Bro666 |
I tried diamonblock also |
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kaadmy |
i think it's "default:diamond_block" or something |
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kaadmy |
not diamondblock |
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Bro666 |
Ok. |
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Bro666 |
So... just to be clear, I would do: |
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Bro666 |
minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) |
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Bro666 |
And then |
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Bro666 |
minetest.place_node({x=-62, y=0, z=-40},{name="default:diamond_block"}) |
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Bro666 |
Or whwtver it is, I'll look it up in a sec |
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Bro666 |
And then: end) |
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Bro666 |
in my mod |
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Void7 |
the problem with that is that you might spawn very far away from that node, in which case the chunk the node's in won't be loaded |
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Void7 |
so the node won't be placed |
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sfan5 |
Bro666: i think it would be easier to just place the node below the player when he spawns |
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sfan5 |
because then you don't have to worry about mapblocks being loaded or not |
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Bro666 |
Those coordinates are very near from where I left, like a few meters away |
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Bro666 |
Wouldn't that work? |
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Void7 |
it should |
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Bro666 |
Ok. |
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Bro666 |
Say I wanted to write like a treasure hunt. Place a node in a random chunk about 500 meters away from the player... |
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Bro666 |
Can that be done? |
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Void7 |
yes |
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Bro666 |
But you said that if you spawn too far away from where you want to place the node, the chunk won't be loaded... |
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Void7 |
yeah |
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Void7 |
there are functions for loading chunks, and functions when a chunk is generated |
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Bro666 |
Ah. |
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Bro666 |
Nice |
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Void7 |
minetest.register_on_generated(func(minp, maxp, blockseed)) |
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Void7 |
if your block pos is in bbox (minp, maxp), the you can place it there |
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Void7 |
or http://pastebin.com/1RR2ryp3 |
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Void7 |
which force-generates the chunk |
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Grinowe |
how do i change the language |
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Grinowe |
(ingame) |
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sofar |
game text or game engine text |
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sofar |
http://dev.minetest.net/Translation or https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4929 |
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Lluri |
yup |
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Lluri |
I have been on servers where people had "locked" a part of the map that was impossible to modify (mine or set a node ....) if you were not the "owner" |
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Lluri |
As I finished a part of my project (a kind of hogwart inspired castle) |
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Lluri |
I wanted to reopen the server to some people and allow them to visit and comment |
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Lluri |
But I don't want them to "lolz lava everywhere" on my castle, so how do I lock all my project area ? |
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ssieb |
Check out the "areas" mod. |
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Lluri |
No such option with world edit ? :) |
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Lluri |
ty for the advice |
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ssieb |
Lluri: I don't understand that comment. |
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* Mati^1 |
I would like to thank all --> Thank you for the memory I hope you will not forget about him.... I hope this man for afor all of you----> with him always to remember |
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VanessaE |
thanks for keeping us informed. |
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VanessaE |
he will be missed :( |
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Mati^1 |
I cry all day |
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Mati^1 |
26 years friend best friend |
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Niebieski |
IMO, Minetest should be GPL. |
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VanessaE |
Niebieski: it's LGPL + CC-by-SA |
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VanessaE |
that's good enough. |
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Niebieski |
GPL is better, no commercial drivatives. |
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VanessaE |
GPL can be commercial too. |
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VanessaE |
LGPL just makes that easier in some respects. |
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Mati^1 |
31.03 am 14.30 europe time will be his funeral om town Wloclawek |
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Fixer |
thank you for info |
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VanessaE |
:( |
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Fixer |
we will miss him a lot, he fixed my graphic bugs i was very grateful and now this |
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Mati^1 |
I'll also there at the funeral :( |
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Mati^1 |
already I have the two hard drives |
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Fixer |
you must live through it, it always hard to miss a close friend |
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Mati^1 |
yes I know but it's very hard for me and my family |
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Mati^1 |
a man a friend |
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Fixer |
you will remember him in your memory |
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Mati^1 |
sorry |
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Niebieski |
I'm sorry to hear that Mati^1. |
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Mati^1 |
polnisch better |
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VanessaE |
His memory will forever be a blessing, Mati^1 |
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Mati^1 |
vanessa I know you like me he tells |
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Mati^1 |
write about him |
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VanessaE |
I'm no good at all at writing such things |
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VanessaE |
sofar did a good job though with his post. |
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Mati^1 |
our good friend works in MIT |
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VanessaE |
( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14228 ) |
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Mati^1 |
i know |
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Mati^1 |
and I was crying like a child by writing it |
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red-001 |
I'm sorry to hear that |
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Niebieski |
He thought I was Polish too. |
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red-001 |
your nick means blue in polish |
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Niebieski |
Yeah we had a conversation about that. |
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Fixer |
Mati^1, you was in ESI with him, right? |
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Mati^1 |
ESI? |
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Fixer |
Mati^1, http://www.worldofsam.org/node/274 |
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Fixer |
Mati^1, http://www.worldofsam.org/node/275 |
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Mati^1 |
yes RBA was the best coder ESI |
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Mati^1 |
sam qoupe |
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Fixer |
i am also played spectrum soviet clone, I was surprised RBA coded so long ago |
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Mati^1 |
Biography: |
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Mati^1 |
Coder from Polish coding group ESI. |
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Mati^1 |
Programmer of Craft and Snakemania. |
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Mati^1 |
We too had spectrum |
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Mati^1 |
sorry but i cry ;,,,,,,,,,( |
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Mati^1 |
sinclar zx |
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Fixer |
yes, that times, i was so young, casettes, no manual |
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turd |
Can anyone tell me how to clear " worldedit:placeholder " |
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sofar |
hit it |
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turd |
I need to remove those worldedit:placeholder nodes from a map |
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turd |
invisible |
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red-001 |
replace them with air |
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red-001 |
use //replace |
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turd |
how can i select and set air just on worldedit:placeholder nodes? there's nodes within the area i don't want to relace. |
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turd |
Ive never used replace |
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red-001 |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/Tutorial.md |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/ChatCommands.md |
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red-001 |
do //replace worldedit:placeholder air |
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sofar |
Minetest Mods will be installed on your device soon. |
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turd |
ok that sounds right to me |
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rubenwardy |
It's pretty cool how you can schedule an installion from your computer like that |
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turd |
Thanks red-001 |
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red-001 |
np |
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sofar |
Unfortunately, Minetest Mods has stopped (Report, OK) |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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Calinou |
I have a "Debug" option on my laptop as well |
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Calinou |
(probably because I have Visual Studio installed) |
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Calinou |
it also doesn't bother searching a solution online |
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Calinou |
(who finds that useful?) |
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sofar |
rubenwardy: refuses to open XD |
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rubenwardy |
wtf |
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rubenwardy |
did it ask for the internet permission? |
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sofar |
rubenwardy: no, it just has storage perms |
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sofar |
no other permissions I can turn on either |
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sofar |
um, if I list "All permissions", then I get |
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sofar |
2x storage |
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sofar |
1x "Full network access" |
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rubenwardy |
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "android.support.v7.widget.LinearLayoutManager" on path: DexPathList[[zip file "/data/app/com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager-1/base.apk"] |
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rubenwardy |
wow |
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rubenwardy |
well, unpublished for now |
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sofar |
rubenwardy: fyi nexus 5 (the old 5) |
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rubenwardy |
sofar, the android minifier (which only runs in release mode) was screwing up my dependencies |
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sofar |
let me know when to retry :) |
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rubenwardy |
uploading now, waiting for store to finish processing |
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* Mati^1 |
Thank you all for your help and support, I hope the RBA will stay with you not just today. I will try to notify you when I will be in Poland on his last way :( |
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sofar |
Mati^1: dank! gute fahrt. |
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* Mati^1 |
pray for his soul |
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Mati^1 |
Sofar Danke herzlich Danke für Deine antwort und Hilfe!! |
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OldCoder_ |
Is Inchra down? |
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red-001 |
why windows why |
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red-001 |
why deny nt/system access |
