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sloantothebone |
Excuse me, the _ was meant to be a question mark |
| 00:00 |
everamzah |
i think it would be an engine enhancement, perhaps not possible with lua? i recall this being discussed either on forum or github. |
| 00:01 |
everamzah |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=92 <-- here is one forum thread on the subject |
| 00:02 |
everamzah |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6823 <-- this seems related, Dragonop, but doesn't mention max_drop_level |
| 00:02 |
sloantothebone |
And also, I think it would be easy to add the feature of highlighting any message in the chatbox with the player's username in it. |
| 00:03 |
Dragonop |
there was a dual wield mod some time ago, let me search |
| 00:04 |
everamzah |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6123 <-- this one does mention max_drop_level |
| 00:05 |
everamzah |
but i'm not sure what to make of it |
| 00:05 |
sloantothebone |
I've seen things that do something similar, such as right clicking with a pickaxe places whatever is to the right of the pickaxe in the inventory |
| 00:05 |
Dragonop |
thanks everamzah |
| 00:08 |
everamzah |
you're welcome drag |
| 00:08 |
everamzah |
sorry i couldn't be more helpful. now i am more curious, tho, and am going to continue tinkering |
| 00:09 |
everamzah |
another explanation of max_drop_level: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=47361#p47361 |
| 00:11 |
Dragonop |
sloantothebone, here's the link to that post, it's truly dead, but maybe somebody has a copy of it |
| 00:11 |
Dragonop |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=92 |
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everamzah |
that's a familiar looking link ^_^ |
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sloantothebone |
Hmm |
| 00:15 |
everamzah |
so, max_drop_level has no effect in the default game, but mods can use this value as defined in the tool's def to act in some way. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=92259#p92259 |
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Dragonop |
I was reading that |
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DoyleChris |
evening |
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DoyleChris |
I have been reading though the forums trying to find info about how water acts in minetest. |
| 01:23 |
DoyleChris |
i noticed a mod called old style water from 2012 |
| 01:24 |
DoyleChris |
what im looking for is the ability to fill a tunnel with water. |
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DoyleChris |
either by having waterflow into it or using pipeworks to pipe it in. |
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DoyleChris |
but water only flows 8 blocks from source is there a way to extend that |
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kaadmy |
DoyleChris: i'm afraid not, the engine has a max limit of 8 nodes that the water can flow afaik |
| 01:28 |
DoyleChris |
is there a way i can change it on my end |
| 01:29 |
kaadmy |
unlikely, unless i'm mistaken |
| 01:29 |
everamzah |
you could change the properties of the water, or make a new liquid node |
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everamzah |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3471 <-- liquid_range |
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kaadmy |
everamzah: liquid can only flow 8 nodes, it's an engine limit afaik |
| 01:30 |
everamzah |
search "liquid_" in lua_api.txt, there's functions too |
| 01:30 |
everamzah |
i haven't played with it much kaadmy i admit i don't know for certain |
| 01:30 |
everamzah |
only what i read in this doc |
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kaadmy |
read the end of that line you linked |
| 01:31 |
kaadmy |
"liquid_range = 8, -- number of flowing nodes around source (max. 8)" |
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everamzah |
LOL! |
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DoyleChris |
so i would haft to recompile the game to change it |
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DoyleChris |
or make a new water node |
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kaadmy |
DoyleChris: i think the engine can't handle greater than 8 nodes, it's not a soft limit i think |
| 01:33 |
everamzah |
very interesting |
| 01:33 |
DoyleChris |
ok new question about the trees |
| 01:34 |
DoyleChris |
which involves water |
| 01:34 |
everamzah |
the way does flow indefinitely downward, though, yes? |
| 01:35 |
everamzah |
what about an ABM on flowing water, to check it's level, and then continue it on its path? |
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DoyleChris |
in the moretrees document it has to columns "Nearness to some Node" and "Nearby Water" |
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DoyleChris |
example for rubber it says "nearness to some node" - water, 15 and "nearby Water" - 10 |
| 01:37 |
DoyleChris |
can i put just one node of water within 10 nodes of 4 rubber trees and that is enough water |
| 01:38 |
DoyleChris |
as long as the radius from the water touchs the trees |
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DoyleChris |
that would make my life easier |
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everamzah |
then again perhaps this ABM would not be able know what the water's path was |
| 01:40 |
everamzah |
it would be nice to dig a trench in between two bodies of water and watch it fill in some expected way |
| 01:44 |
everamzah |
if flowing water is adjacent to a water source, but is also adjacent to other flowing water nodes with a lesser level (has already spread), then turn it into a source? |
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kaadmy |
everamzah: water is quite simple |
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kaadmy |
as it flows outwards, the height decreases. dropping down a node makes the node below it also flowing, which prolongs the flow distance. when the height is 0, it stops. |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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kaadmy |
i think that's how it works, someone correct me if it's wrong |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
pretty much. there was also "realistic" liquids back in 0.4.10 or so |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
I think it was removed for... uhh... some reason |
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kaeza |
breaking map format, I think it was |
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kaadmy |
i think they even removed the "realistic liquids" option too |
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everamzah |
i heard about "psuedo-source" nodes on downward slopes, that aid to perpetuate the liquid's movement downhill |
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kaeza |
git checkout 0279f32db742f06d24a9d01c46f7d70c5e570eb2^1; liquid_finite = true in minetest.conf |
| 02:01 |
kaeza |
disclaimer: I'm not responsible if you break your existing worlds :) |
| 02:01 |
everamzah |
minetest.add_node_level can be negative to decrease a node's level -- neat |
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everamzah |
hahaha minetest.set_node_level(pos, minetest.get_node_max_level(pos)) |
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kaeza |
:? |
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everamzah |
abm on flowing water |
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nbrecht01 |
I just installed the wardrobe mod. I want to add some textures, so I put the full path of the .png files in the skins.txt in the mods/wardrobe folder. However, when I place a wardrobe, open it, and press my skin it says it cannot find it. Where should I put my skins? |
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everamzah |
use just file name, but not the path |
| 02:51 |
everamzah |
it checks the textures folder anyway |
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nbrecht01 |
where is the textures folder? thats my question/ |
| 02:51 |
nbrecht01 |
where is the textures folder? thats my question. |
| 02:51 |
everamzah |
wardrobe/textures |
| 02:51 |
nbrecht01 |
Ok. |
| 02:51 |
everamzah |
and skins.txt can exist in either the mod dir, or the world dir |
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everamzah |
or both |
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XeonSquared |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
hello, in the user interface of the android version of minetest, I can't find how to show the console: https://lut.im/pkcUxBH7NA/TQbKL3Z1n4BXPUYs.png and https://lut.im/ZlT347FDIq/sItfwiKBJkT4xMdP.png I thought it was not implemented but a player told me it is possible to show the console. How to do that please? |
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Calinou |
http://atomicgameengine.com/ - it's open source now, under MIT license. editor does not support GNU/Linux yet :( |
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Samson1 |
kahrl, |
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Samson1 |
sorry |
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Samson1 |
I did not mean to do that... |
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rubenwardy |
!title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14224 |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: PSA: description.txt and screenshot.png in mod/modpack. - Minetest Forums |
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cth_ |
hello |
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afflatus |
what is curses / ncurses used for and why do I need it? |
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everamzah |
it's for the --terminal argument |
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afflatus |
Plus which library should I be using? |
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everamzah |
you can run a server instance with a front-end to enter commands |
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afflatus |
Clearly not libncursesw.so.5 from my last failed build :/ |
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afflatus |
Oh so it's for remote commands? |
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everamzah |
not remote |
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afflatus |
So I could easily build without? |
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everamzah |
--terminal allows to enter commands into the server without needing to load the client |
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everamzah |
so if that's not something you're interested in, you don't need to enable it |
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afflatus |
Thanks everamzah |
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everamzah |
you're quite welcome |
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afflatus |
I'm so not a C person. I hate compiling things :p But I am getting slightly better at it. |
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afflatus |
Hmm using -DCURSES_USE_NCURSES=0 yet it's still building the ncurses console. o.k. |
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afflatus |
Oh I see, it's buiding a curses console now. |
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afflatus |
which I predict will fail because -DCURSES_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5 |
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afflatus |
meh I expect I'll get there by the end of the afternoon :D |
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everamzah |
cmake . -LH shows options |
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afflatus |
Yeah. I know. I need to slow down. |
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everamzah |
it shows ENABLE_CURSES -- not sure about CURSES_USE_NCURSE |
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afflatus |
That was from reading something by rubenwardy. Probably different on Debian |
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everamzah |
i was wondering if it was system dependent ... i'm on stretch fwiw |
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rubenwardy |
Heh? |
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afflatus |
oh hello |
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rubenwardy |
I never managed to get curses to work |
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rubenwardy |
I gave up in the end XD |
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everamzah |
after using --terminal, i can never go back |
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afflatus |
Ah, so I should ignore all tha then |
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everamzah |
libncurses5-dev for me, i think |
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rubenwardy |
yeah |
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afflatus |
so -DENABLE_CURSES=0 for the next attempt |
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afflatus |
I've installed the -dev package |
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afflatus |
But there are three libraries - curses, ncurses and ncursesw |
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everamzah |
ncurses |
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everamzah |
definitely not curses... the n stands for "new" |
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everamzah |
i dunno about w |
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afflatus |
That's for wide char support |
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everamzah |
neat |
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afflatus |
bah - make[2]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5' |
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everamzah |
you don't have to specify it, tho |
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everamzah |
if you do cmake . and it finds a suitable lib it will use it, otherwise not |
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afflatus |
I'll check cmake -LH before next build ;) |
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everamzah |
and then just make clean && make |
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everamzah |
but also try deleting CMakeCache.txt |
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afflatus |
So just installing the dev package should do the right thing? |
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everamzah |
yes |
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afflatus |
ok thanks |
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everamzah |
yw, good luck! |
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afflatus |
I have actually just sidetracked myself - I am trying to figure out why my server keeps locking up. |
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afflatus |
The only answer to that is probably a debug session |
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afflatus |
Not something I really want to do on a live server, but I won't find out unless I do it live. |
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afflatus |
OK, looks like I successfully built it with ncursesw this time :O |
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afflatus |
That means I can go 'dark' heh. |
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afflatus |
So just one thing I'm wondering now ... |
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afflatus |
/usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.62, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/i586-linux-gnu/5/../../../i386-linux-gnu/libIrrlicht.so, may conflict with libjpeg.so.8 |
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afflatus |
Does anyone know what effect that might have? |
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afflatus |
I'm looking for reasons the server might lockup rather than exit on errors |
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everamzah |
looks like irrlict was built with jpeg 6.2 and minetest was built with 8? (guessing) |
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afflatus |
yep Debian testing has libjpeg.so.8, I assume it's irrlicht 1.8 that wants libjpeg.so.62 |
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everamzah |
i'm on testing too ^5 |
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afflatus |
cool, so we speak the same language \o/ |
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afflatus |
Still that should only affect the client, not the server. So probably a non-issue for me atm. |
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cth_ |
I have problem with Minetest compilation. I trying to cross-compile Minetest for Windows using MinGW under Ubuntu 12.04 64bit (using buildbot script). I try different versions of Minetest and different compilers and resault is always the same. On i586-mingw32msvc (from MinGW32) compilation stops on 35% with errors "/minetest/src/unittest/test_serialization.cpp:298: error: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type". |
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cth_ |
On x86_64-w64-mingw32 (from MinGW-w64) compilation ends with no errors but when i trying to run this on Windows it says that there is no libstdc++-6.dll and some other dlls. So i probably doing something wrong but i have no idea what. :( |
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afflatus |
cth_: Sounds like you just need to install the missing dlls for the x86_64-w64-mingw32 version. But I know nothing about Windows so can't realy help, sorry. |
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cth_ |
But why MinGW32 compilation ends with error? |
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everamzah |
you said it ends with no errors |
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everamzah |
or is this two different things, sorry |
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everamzah |
seems it just cant find the lib |
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Krock |
install windows and use MSVC /troll comment |
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everamzah |
you're compiling both 32 and 64 ? |
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Krock |
MinGW32 sounds like 32-bit for me |
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cth_ |
Yes i try to compile both versions |
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cth_ |
32-bit version ends at 35% with error: /minetest/src/unittest/test_serialization.cpp:298: error: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type" |
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sfan5 |
cth_: ubuntu shipped a very outdated mingw version last time i checked |
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sfan5 |
you might want to use a newer mingw version from somewhere |
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sfan5 |
also about the missing dlls |
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sfan5 |
those DLLs should be somewhere in your mingw installation /usr/x86_64-w64-mingw32msvc maybe, you need to copy them from there |
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cth_ |
Thanks sfan5, I didn't know I need to copy these dlls from my mingw installation, also I will try to update mingw :) |
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garywhite_ |
Hello? |
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Samson1 |
Hello :) |
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Samson1 |
garywhite_, Can I be of any assistance? |
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garywhite_ |
I hope so |
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garywhite_ |
I have been trying to set up a server, but I cannot get unified_inventory mod to load |
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garywhite_ |
My debug.txt reads: 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main]: D:\FlipShare Data\mt\minetest-0.4.13\bin\..\mods\unifiedinventory\init.lua: 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main]: ...Data\mt\minetest-0.4.13\bin\..\builtin\game\register.lua:60: Name unified_inventory:bag_small does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or ":" prefix required 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main |
| 17:54 |
garywhite_ |
I tried bags mod, but won't run |
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Samson1 |
Okay, |
| 17:55 |
Samson1 |
I will have a look for you :) |
| 17:55 |
garywhite_ |
Thanks |
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everamzah |
you're missing an underscore, garywhite_ |
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garywhite_ |
Hang on...I mistyped |
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everamzah |
you typed all that? |
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Out`Of`Control |
pastebin? |
| 17:56 |
everamzah |
i would have just pasted it :> |
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Samson1 |
garywhite_, I would recommend speaking to Krock about it :) |
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Samson1 |
They know more then me :) |
| 17:56 |
garywhite |
Better |
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Out`Of`Control |
garywhite: use pastebin or something similar |
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garywhite |
Use what? |
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everamzah |
it was only one line, isn't that ok? |
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garywhite |
Here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Y1ug0GyT |
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everamzah |
garywhite: again, you're missing an underscore |
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everamzah |
it's not unifiedinventory |
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garywhite |
Ohhh... |
| 17:58 |
everamzah |
:D |
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Samson1 |
No, |
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Samson1 |
It not :D |
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garywhite |
I'll be darned! |
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garywhite |
Thanks so much guys |
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Samson1 |
garywhite, That's all right :) |
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garywhite |
I gtg |
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Fritz2 |
hello |
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Void7 |
hi :) |
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Fritz2 |
hi too :) Could you post here your custom minetest menu? |
| 18:27 |
Void7 |
i did already |
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Fritz2 |
when? |
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Void7 |
http://pastebin.com/DgV3bmmz |
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Fritz2 |
that page report me that the document for one i'm looking for doesn't exits |
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Fritz2 |
the one* |
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everamzah |
here's my mockup: http://i.imgur.com/PATsG1H.png (haha) |
| 18:31 |
Void7 |
ah |
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Fritz2 |
ueh |
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Void7 |
http://pastebin.com/q8mTLBcj: copy into builtin/mainmenu/init.lua |
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Void7 |
i gtg now, bye! |
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everamzah |
i will, thanks |
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everamzah |
bb |
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Fritz2 |
same as before XD |
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everamzah |
aw it's gone. i would like to try yours. iirc it was the one with the profiles? |
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Fritz2 |
(IRC log test) |
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everamzah |
Void7: it might be worthwhile to fork minetest on github and share these changes as you go |
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Fritz2 |
i think he is afk now |
| 18:35 |
everamzah |
that's ok, i don't mind |
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everamzah |
how are you Fritz2 ? did you figure out how to place seeds automatically? |
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Fritz2 |
ehm no xD |
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Niebieski |
Hey guys, anyone have seen this before ? https://youtu.be/nm0POwEtiqE |
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everamzah |
farming:seed_cotton is a craftitem that places a node, i think. didn't consider that before |
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Fritz2 |
the node is farming:farming_cotton_x, right? |
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everamzah |
i don't know offhand, but that sounds right |
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Fritz2 |
so i'll need to redefine that node and make it replace automaticly a cotton seed, right? |
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everamzah |
i would think replicating its behavior would be all that's required |
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everamzah |
when you dig cotton, do whatever farming:seed_cotton does on_place_node |
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everamzah |
or something |
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everamzah |
you see i cannot tell you how to do it, because i do not know. maybe there is a hint there, however |
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Fritz2 |
um |
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* Fritz2 |
thinks |
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Fritz2 |
ok if i add a function after_dig or on_dig at the farming:cotton_seed node it will not works |
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everamzah |
farming:seed_cotton is not the node that you dig, or even a node at all. if i'm not mistaken, it is a craftitem |
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everamzah |
this craftitem then places the actual seed when you rightclick on soil, for example |
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Fritz2 |
but if i add that function in the growing cycle mabye it'll works |
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Fritz2 |
no it is a node |
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Fritz2 |
farming:cotton its a craftitem |
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everamzah |
cotton is the dropped 'string' as it used to be named |
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everamzah |
now aliased to cotton |
| 18:46 |
Fritz2 |
yes |
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everamzah |
skimming quickly, it appears farming.place_seed may be all you need |
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everamzah |
look in farming/api.lua |
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Fritz2 |
that's what i was near to write xD |
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everamzah |
:) i hope it works out for you |
| 18:48 |
Fritz2 |
so do i |
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Fritz2 |
lets look that file |
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Fritz2 |
minetest.register_craftitem(":" .. mname .. ":" .. pname, { |
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Fritz2 |
description = pname:gsub("^%l", string.upper), |
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Fritz2 |
inventory_image = mname .. "_" .. pname .. ".png", |
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Fritz2 |
what is this? |
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everamzah |
there are multiple growth stages, so i believe that's what that is |
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Fritz2 |
ok i think that i get a way |
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Fritz2 |
could you rewrite the on_place function, please? |
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everamzah |
it was psuedo-code |
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everamzah |
pseudo |
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everamzah |
i don't even remember what i wrote ha |
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Fritz2 |
lol |
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everamzah |
i'm afk now Fritz2 good luck to you |
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Fritz2 |
ok thanks |
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Fritz2 |
!c 3000*8989 |
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MinetestBot |
26967000 |
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Fritz2 |
!c hello |
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MinetestBot |
NameError: name 'hello' is not defined |
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Fritz2 |
!c A*B |
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NameError: name 'A' is not defined |
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Void7 |
hi, i'm back |
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Fixer |
!c 2**1000 |
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MinetestBot |
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Fixer |
ok, will stop |
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nrzkt |
!c 2**15400 |
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MinetestBot |
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nrzkt |
!c 2**15400000 |
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nrzkt: Took to long to calculate |
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Out`Of`Control |
Void7: did you run voidepixel server? |
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Void7 |
no |
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Void7 |
gtg |
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Mati^1 |
Hi All |
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Mati^1 |
I am looking for admin |
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Dragonop |
What server? |
| 21:09 |
Mati^1 |
it is about RBA!!! |
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Mati^1 |
RealBadAngel ! |
| 21:09 |
Dragonop |
Ah... I see |
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sofar |
hi Mati^1 |
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Mati^1 |
it is conscious. Unfortunately, his brain does not recognize anyone |
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Mati^1 |
sorry but my englich not good beter deutsch |
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Mati^1 |
or polnish |
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sofar |
deutsch ist ok, Ich kan das ubersetzen |
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Mati^1 |
OK! sorar |
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Dragonop |
Those are both good and bad news... is it permanent? |
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Mati^1 |
ist das so das Maciek ich wach, also Er liebt aber er kann keine leute, kann jemand erkennen |
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sofar |
quite likely, yes, but only time will tell |
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Mati^1 |
Er redet mit keine jemand |
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sofar |
"he's awake and walking, but doesn't recognize anyone" |
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sofar |
"he doesn't speak with anyone" |
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sfan5 |
sofar: s/walking/alive/ ? |
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Mati^1 |
gestern wa Kasia bei im und er hat Sie nicht erkennt |
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sofar |
liebt oder laupt? |
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sofar |
lauft* |
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Fritigern |
liebt = lebt |
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Mati^1 |
Er dreht das kopf in andere richtung |
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sfan5 |
ich würde auf "lebt" tippen |
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sofar |
lebt, ok |
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Mati^1 |
Liebt Er ist Wach |
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sofar |
ok, so he's lying in the hospital bed |
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Mati^1 |
aber Gehim ist who aderes |
| 21:15 |
Mati^1 |
das ist das problem |
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sofar |
est war schon drei wochen heute, nicht? |
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Mati^1 |
ja genau |
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Mati^1 |
drei wichen aber wach ist der schön fast eine woche |
| 21:16 |
Mati^1 |
er erkent keine jemanden |
| 21:17 |
Mati^1 |
heute hatte eine Studie, Leider wird Lieben aber wie eine >Gemüse |
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Mati^1 |
Er braucht benötigen Rehabilitation |
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sofar |
right, he will need rehab and pt |
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Calinou |
what happened to RBA? |
| 21:19 |
Fritigern |
translation: it's been three weeks since his stroke, and he's been awake for almost a week now. He does not recognise anyone. Today a study was performed and he will be unfortunately living like a vegetable |
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Calinou |
:| |
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Fritigern |
This is what I got from it |
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sofar |
heart attack, collapsed |
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Calinou |
je suis RBA, I guess |
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sofar |
resussitated but didn't regain consciousness for the first 2 weeks. |
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Dragonop |
Oh man... :( |
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nrzkt |
Calinou, this "je suis" mode in France is just stupid. You are Calinou and you have empathy for him |
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nrzkt |
send him a kiss from me Mati^1 |
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nrzkt |
too many minetest PR |
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Dragonop |
Is it possible that he will remember something if you use certain words with him, that might trigger his brain? |
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sofar |
Dragonop: most likely he's had permanent brain damage, which isn't something you can undo |
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sofar |
he'll most likely have to learn how to walk, talk, everything |
| 21:24 |
Dragonop |
That sucks, at least he's alive. |
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rubenwardy |
Mati^1, this is sad. I give him and you my wishes. I hope he gets better. |
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Dragonop |
Mati^1, good luck for him and you, hope he gets well soon. |
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FreeFull |
Fritigern: Recovery is still possible |
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Calinou |
4,000 link karma on reddit! |
| 21:56 |
Fritigern |
FreeFull: Where did you get that? Mati said "Leider wird Lieben aber wie eine >Gemüse", which means "he will unfortunately live like a vegetable" (Mati uses "lieben" when he means "leben") |
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FreeFull |
I haven't read the german |
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Fritigern |
Don;t get me wrong, I want RBA to make a full recovery, but Mati's words seems to take away all hope of that. |
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FreeFull |
I just mean that it's possible to still recover from a stroke, even if initial prognoses is grim |
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FreeFull |
We'll just have to hope |
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Fritigern |
Well, I assumed it was a stroke, because RBA had remained in a coma for 2 weeks, but it turned out to have been a heart attack. The result is still brain damage though :-( |
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* twoelk |
would rather go with when there is life then there is hope |
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Fixer |
sofar, i've read it could be just amnesia after coma, it can repair with time, and if he is walking already that is very good |
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sofar |
he's not walking |
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sofar |
that was my translation mistake |
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Fixer |
damned |
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Fixer |
sofar, but he is reacting to people? |
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Fritigern |
In recap: RBA is alive, but does not speak and does not recognise anyone. |
| 22:07 |
Fixer |
amnesia |
| 22:07 |
Fritigern |
When he had visitors, he turned his head away from them |
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twoelk |
iirc he needed to be reanimated and the brain was without oxygen for some time |
| 22:07 |
Fixer |
right |
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Mati^1 |
but er have visitor in poland |
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twoelk |
but then again the brain is capable of wonderfull stuff - at least sometimes |
| 22:09 |
Mati^1 |
I do not recognize anyone |
| 22:09 |
Fixer |
just needs some time |
| 22:09 |
Mati^1 |
He does not know what his name |
| 22:09 |
twoelk |
where was RBA in hospital? in Torun? near Gdansk? |
| 22:09 |
Fixer |
if he is conscious, that is very good |
| 22:10 |
Mati^1 |
Torun |
| 22:10 |
Fixer |
amnesia will go away in some time |
| 22:10 |
Dragonop |
In most cases amnesia is temporary, doesn't matters how bad it is, and permanent amnesia is rare. |
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Mati^1 |
we have hope with a pass, |
| 22:11 |
Mati^1 |
today had a study |
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twoelk |
bypass in the brain? |
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Mati^1 |
which showed the will plant |
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Mati^1 |
sorry google translator :( |
| 22:12 |
twoelk |
no problem |
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Mati^1 |
Heute hat er alle möglich nachforschungen. Alle leider war nicht so Gut |
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Mati^1 |
Er Liebt aber so wie eine kleine kind |
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Fixer |
no wait, plant is when impossible to detect if he has a conscissness |
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sofar |
figure of speaking |
| 22:14 |
Fixer |
but he has and turns his head, it is much better |
| 22:14 |
Dragonop |
That's good, it means that he remembers his childhood |
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sofar |
he doesn't remember his childhood |
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sofar |
he is basically behaving like a newborn baby |
| 22:15 |
Fixer |
ok |
| 22:15 |
Dragonop |
Ah, well that's bad. |
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sofar |
he has limited to no skills, etc. |
| 22:15 |
Dragonop |
Shouldn't he remember habits and that kind of stuff? |
| 22:15 |
Fixer |
but he can gain the back |
| 22:15 |
Fixer |
them* |
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sofar |
Dragonop: he may, but with brain damage due to oxygen lack you could lose most if not all skills, including simple body movement |
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sofar |
the fact that he turns his head is encouraging |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
yeah |
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Mati^1 |
ich hoffe das auch das Er dreht ich sich, aber artze sag was anderes und |
| 22:20 |
Fixer |
google translate sucks |
| 22:20 |
Mati^1 |
das haupt figure Onkel sagt das Er geht zum hospitz :( |
| 22:21 |
Mati^1 |
ist jemand der kann polnich? |
| 22:21 |
Mati^1 |
mowi ktos po polsku?? |
| 22:21 |
Mati^1 |
Ãœbersetzen ? |
| 22:21 |
Mati^1 |
kurwa scheisse :D |
| 22:21 |
Fixer |
Mati^1, i can kinda read it (from Ukraine) |
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Mati^1 |
Russich kann ich auch aber nicht schreiben ;( |
| 22:22 |
Mati^1 |
OKAY ich schreibe auf polnisch |
| 22:23 |
Mati^1 |
Maciek jest przytomny, widzi, slyszy, nie reaguje na swoje imie. |
| 22:23 |
Fixer |
ok |
| 22:23 |
Mati^1 |
nie poznaje nikogo, nie wie gdzie jest. |
| 22:23 |
Fixer |
ok |
| 22:24 |
Mati^1 |
nie reaguje na znaki lekarzy. |
| 22:24 |
Mati^1 |
caly czas jest pod kroplowka |
| 22:24 |
Fixer |
hmm |
| 22:25 |
Mati^1 |
ma apetyt ale nie moze jesc, jeszcze nie moze. |
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Fixer |
ok |
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Mati^1 |
byl u niego kuzyn nie poznal go, by u niego jego najblizszy wujek tez go nie poznal. |
| 22:25 |
Mati^1 |
Kasia byla wczoraj |
| 22:25 |
Fixer |
ok |
| 22:25 |
Mati^1 |
ale kiedy mowila do niego |
| 22:26 |
Mati^1 |
Maciek to ja Kasia odwracal glowie nic nie powiedzial |
| 22:26 |
Mati^1 |
to juz jest ponad tydzien jak jest przytomny, |
| 22:26 |
Mati^1 |
lekarze dzis roblili mu badania bardzo dokladne |
| 22:26 |
Mati^1 |
niestety |
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Mati^1 |
jak oni to powiedzili zostanie jak roslina, bedzie jadl, pil mowil ale nie wroci do tego stanu ktory |
| 22:27 |
Mati^1 |
byl przed zawalem serca |
| 22:28 |
Mati^1 |
moze byc tak ze chwila, jakis symptom i wroci w ciagu chwili a moze byc tak ze wcale sie nie obudzi |
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Mati^1 |
Fixer? |
| 22:29 |
Fixer |
ok, some words don't understand |
| 22:29 |
Mati^1 |
ponial :) |
| 22:30 |
Mati^1 |
das ist eine schwerige moment, Für im selbst |
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sofar |
google translate does a reasonable job on it |
| 22:30 |
cth_ |
to nie brzmi za dobrze :( |
| 22:30 |
Mati^1 |
tak |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
Mati^1, thanks I understand 95% of it |
| 22:30 |
Mati^1 |
bardzo zle, |
| 22:30 |
Mati^1 |
okay |
| 22:31 |
Mati^1 |
I will try to drive, next week |
| 22:32 |
Mati^1 |
I have a lot of work, my wife is sick, but I will try to drive |
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twoelk |
sad sad sad ... |
| 22:33 |
Mati^1 |
Byłemu u wujasa, Maciek otworzył oczy ale kontaktu z nim nie |
| 22:33 |
Mati^1 |
ma,lekarka mówi że trzeba czekać ale rokowania są słabe:( |
| 22:33 |
Mati^1 |
-- |
| 22:33 |
Mati^1 |
Best regards, |
| 22:33 |
Mati^1 |
Wuderior mailto:wuderior o2.pl |
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sofar |
ouch |
| 22:34 |
Fixer |
i forgot to ask if he reacts to pain |
| 22:34 |
Dragonop |
no way |
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Mati^1 |
Byłemu u wujasa, Maciek otworzył oczy ale kontaktu z nim nie |
| 22:34 |
Mati^1 |
ma,lekarka mówi że trzeba czekać ale rokowania są słabe:( |
| 22:34 |
Mati^1 |
-- |
| 22:34 |
Mati^1 |
Best regards, |
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Mati^1 |
Wuderior mailto:wuderioro2.pl |
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Dragonop |
holy, can somebody disconnect that bot? |
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twoelk |
someone kick minetest bot for just now |
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Calinou |
ShadowBot is kicking, not MinetestBot |
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ShadowBot |
Calinou: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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twoelk |
oops - should have read |
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Fixer |
does not react to doctor, but can see and hear, how is that? |
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Mati^1 |
sorry |
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* Megaf |
testing/using Hexchat because Debian Unstable and Experimental no longer have XChat, only Hexchat =/ |
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Megaf |
So colourful |
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Fixer |
Mati^1, can he move? react to touch? |
| 22:40 |
twoelk |
probably has 'light in the eyes reflex' but not much else |
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sofar |
Megaf: hexchat is the successor to xchat, well-maintained |
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Calinou |
Megaf, it's a good thing, XChat has security issues by now |
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Fixer |
Mati^1, reaguje na dotyk? ręce nogi porusza? (google translate) |
| 22:44 |
Mati^1 |
not to touch anything he looks at you |
| 22:46 |
Mati^1 |
sorry but im whaitg for answear from poland too |
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Fixer |
ok |
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Fixer |
hope for the best |
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Mati^1 |
er dreht seine kopf hin und hier aber, keine antwort :( |
| 22:50 |
Mati^1 |
mam nadzieje ze jak mnie zobaczy to zareaguje. |
| 22:50 |
Mati^1 |
chcialbym jak najszybciej tam pojechac :/ |
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Megaf |
sofar, I know that, it's working well so far |
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Fixer |
ok |
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Mati^1 |
hand and foot does not move |
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Mati^1 |
These messages have now from Kasia |
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cth_ |
Mati^1 zastanawiam się tylko jak to się stało, chorował wcześniej na serce? ile ma lat? |
| 22:53 |
Mati^1 |
Maciek ma 43lata tyle co ja, to jest moj najleprzy przyjaciel |
| 22:54 |
Mati^1 |
urodzilismy sie w tym samym dniu 14.02.1973 |
| 22:54 |
Mati^1 |
ja tez mam na imie Maciek tak jak Maciek Kasatkin. |
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sofar |
cth_: he had issues before, was taking medication I think |
| 22:54 |
Mati^1 |
znamy sie 26lat |
| 22:54 |
Mati^1 |
ponad |
| 22:55 |
Mati^1 |
od ponad roku Maciek wiedzial ze jest chory na serce |
| 22:55 |
Mati^1 |
ale niedbal nic a nic o lekarstwa czy lekarzy |
| 22:55 |
cth_ |
ehh, nawet trudno mi sobie wyobrazić jaka to musi być ciężka sytuacja Tobie i jego rodzinie :( |
| 22:56 |
Mati^1 |
dla mnie? to jest moj brat zodjakalny blizniak. |
| 22:56 |
Mati^1 |
znam go lepiej niz jego rodzina |
| 22:56 |
Mati^1 |
mieszkalismy razem |
| 22:56 |
Mati^1 |
wiele lat |
| 22:57 |
Mati^1 |
we wloclawku i w berlinie |
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cth_ |
domyślam się, że lepiej, rodzinie wielu rzeczy się nie mówi, przyjaciołom tak |
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Mati^1 |
dokladnie |
| 22:58 |
Mati^1 |
to jest wiecej jak bym stracil brata, osobe ktora szanowalem i brak mi slow |
| 22:58 |
Mati^1 |
ostatno plakalem caly wieczor sorry ale nie bede pisal |
| 22:58 |
Mati^1 |
ostatnia sobote plakalem jak dziecko |
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cth_ |
kurcze, wiesz, nawet nie wiem co powiedzieć |
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Mati^1 |
wiesz jak sie poznalismy? |
| 23:03 |
Mati^1 |
chodzilismy do tego samego liceum wieczorowego, w sobote jak zawsze na handel na gielde do warszawy, gielde na grzybowska komputerowa i jak wracalismy to sie zapytalem jego a on mnie kiedy mamy urodziny on mi mowi ze 14 lutego ja mowie ze tez on pyta ktory rok ja mowie ze 73 on tez |
| 23:03 |
Mati^1 |
i tak minelo ponad 26lat |
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Mati^1 |
wspolna 18 |
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cth_ |
wow... |
| 23:04 |
Mati^1 |
i inne opijanie :D nie no wymiekam |
| 23:06 |
cth_ |
tak naprawde znacie się dłużej, niż ja mam lat, więc nawet ciężko mi sobie wyobrazić taką przyjaźń |
| 23:08 |
cth_ |
wiesz, może to naiwne tak twierdzić, ale ważne że żyje i trzeba być dobrej myśli, cokolwiek by lekarze mówili, cuda się zdarzają |
| 23:11 |
Mati^1 |
oby obys mial racje, ja wiem ze on o siebie nidbal,a tez zaniedbalem wiele zeczy, mam nadzieje ze mnie pozna ze pozna fotografie ktore mam przygotowane dla niego ze ta klepka sie troche przestawi. |
| 23:12 |
Mati^1 |
chyba nie przezywalem smierci mojego ojca tak jak przezywam jego odejscie w niepamiec jego samego, dziwne ale nie wiem jak nie mozna nic nie pamietac. |
| 23:12 |
Mati^1 |
nic a nic. |
| 23:16 |
cth_ |
może po prostu potrzebuje czasu, nie jestem lekażem, ale myślę, że mimo wszystko jest zbyt wcześnie, żeby tracić nadzieję, przecież to dopiero niecały tydzień odkąd się wybudził (o ile dobrze przeczytałem) |
| 23:17 |
Mati^1 |
Zycze CI zebys poznal takiego przyjaciela, w zle i bardzo dobre chwile |
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* sofar |
afk, will be back online later from home |
| 23:20 |
Mati^1 |
moze potrafisz to przetlumaczyc na angieslki dla forum tutaj, |
| 23:21 |
Mati^1 |
ale dla Macka sa bardzo zle rokowania, zbyt dlugo byl reanimowany ponad 30min. nie wiadomo ile byl nieprzytomny 2 czy 5minut. |
| 23:21 |
Mati^1 |
ja znam bardzo dobrze niemiecki ;) |
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cth_ |
chodzi o to co pisaliśmy po polsku? |
| 23:22 |
Mati^1 |
dzis mial badania, bardzo szczegolwe jego mozg za bardzo zbyt bardzo dlugo byl niedotleniny |
| 23:23 |
Mati^1 |
tak dla forum tutaj, napisz moze cos wiecej |
| 23:23 |
Mati^1 |
ja mowie dobrze po ang. ale nie umiem pisac :D |
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Mati^1 |
Best regards...... :( |
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