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VanessaE |
works for me |
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waressearcher2 |
https://status.github.com they had a small outage |
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an hour ago, yeah |
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Niften |
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@MinetestBot |
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Niften |
Has anybody seen Menche recently? |
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wilkgr |
linuxgaming.us responds with "Connection timed out". |
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LazyJ |
Yup. |
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LazyJ |
The server is moving. |
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wilkgr |
Oh... |
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wilkgr |
When will it be online again? |
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LazyJ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=194171#p194171 |
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LazyJ |
Later today, if all goes well. |
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wilkgr |
Thanks :D |
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LazyJ |
yw ;) |
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wilkgr |
It's evening here, so it would be tomorrow morning |
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Ah well, I'm going to be on MegaF's server then... |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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Krock |
meow |
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Calinou |
http://getgrav.org/ |
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Calinou |
whoa |
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SylvieLorxu |
Hmm, looks interesting |
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SylvieLorxu |
WordPress is cool, but developing themes for it is pretty horrible |
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Calinou |
PHP, a language designed by capitalists. there's $ everywhere :) |
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Krock |
^ |
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Taoki |
Has anyone still seen RealBadAngel around this channel lately? |
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diemartin |
~seen RealBadAngel |
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ShadowBot |
diemartin: I saw RealBadAngel in #minetest 6 days, 19 hours, 53 minutes, and 32 seconds ago saying "OldCoder, hi btw" |
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diemartin |
Taoki, ^ |
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Taoki |
Aha |
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Taoki |
And thanks |
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diemartin |
yw |
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nrzkt |
Calinou: like perl then |
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Sokomine |
anyone intrested in trees and their growing in mt? |
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swift110-phone |
How do u grow trees in mt |
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Sokomine |
there are a lot of diffrent ways. i intend to offer a common interface for that...a trees_lib |
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Sokomine |
that's what i'm currently working on. they grow (admittedly nothing special) |
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Sokomine |
a common function to register the nodes a tree usually consists of, and growing through a function, schematic or l-system |
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kahrl |
Sokomine: hmm, what will be the difference to biome_lib? |
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Sokomine |
biome_lib to my knowledge is for finding out where a tree or plant wants to grow or spawn. trees_lib aims at having a common interface for trees - no matter which growing method they use. i particulary want to be able to react to trees growing and to grow them inside lua voxelmanip |
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nrzkt |
kahrl: moretrees uses the three ways |
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Sokomine |
the other purpose is to have a more easy way to add trees - and also have one central place where i.e. features of the leaves can be changed for all trees present to a game |
14:48 |
Sokomine |
for mg_villages, i had to copy an old version of the default trees in order to be able to grow them inside the voxelmanip area. the default trees are not very forthcomming with interfaces |
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Sokomine |
reacting to a tree growing in moretrees also didn't work well enough - plus it was limited to moretrees |
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swift110-phone |
Hmm |
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Is there a mod to make trees grow or a seeds package of some sort? |
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Calinou |
saplings. |
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Sokomine |
normal trees grow from saplings. if you want to define your own trees, my new trees_lib might be of intrest to you |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Clear list rings when loading a new formspec 41d896d http://git.io/vCGKi (2015-10-10T17:10:52+02:00) |
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Sokomine |
i don't think i ever understood list rings.... |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Remove dunes biome. Sand for glacier seabed 41c1e99 http://git.io/vCGPf (2015-10-10T16:28:49+01:00) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: New header image 'Minetest Game' 70e8924 http://git.io/vCGPU (2015-10-10T16:28:40+01:00) |
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Calinou |
http://opengameart.org/content/transparent-shape-pack |
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Calinou |
lol |
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\o/ Create your Minetest forum topic now and get a 1337X topic number! |
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Calinou |
https://namesmith.io/ideas/summary?keywords=open+source |
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Calinou |
lol |
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AndroidKris |
I need to blow something up. |
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AndroidKris |
badly |
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Krock |
use /giveme tnt:tnt |
17:40 |
xfceKris |
not quite like that, I'm thinking in the form of an fps. |
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Calinou |
/giveme tnt:tnt -1 |
17:40 |
Calinou |
for 65535 TNT :p |
17:40 |
Calinou |
xfceKris, firearms mod? |
17:40 |
Krock |
Install a nuke mod and use the mese nuke instead of trying that way ^ |
17:41 |
xfceKris |
Also, if I place and detonate more than ten tnt, it crashes...My pc can't handle it. |
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* xfceKris |
wonders if there are any good fps games in linux...like halo or mw2 |
17:41 |
Sokomine |
the extreme survival server almost feels like a shooter. at least when the stone mobs show up at night |
17:41 |
Krock |
the tree trim mod is even worse than the TNT mod.. |
17:42 |
Sokomine |
tree trim? |
17:42 |
Krock |
Sokomine, the mod that cuts the trunks and leaves of a tree when the underst is mined |
17:43 |
xfceKris |
like papyrus does. |
17:43 |
Krock |
It does that with minetest.remove_node().. which is PITA for my graphics card |
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Calinou |
"Pay no attention to Soni" good deal |
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xfceKris |
The tree trim mod or papyrus?> |
17:46 |
Krock |
xfceKris, <Krock>the tree trim mod |
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17:47 |
Krock |
maybe it also cuts papyrus.. don't know |
17:47 |
xfceKris |
I wonder how papyrus handles it... |
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* xfceKris |
opens minetest default_games mod folder to hunt for it. |
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xfceKris |
papyrus uses code: after_dig_node = function(pos, node, metadata, digger) default.dig_up(pos, node, digger) |
17:51 |
Soni |
Calinou, please don't ping me |
17:51 |
* xfceKris |
downloads the tree trim mod to see if improvements can be made. |
17:52 |
xfceKris |
Yeah Calinou, don't ping him, he's busy with stuff...and things. |
17:52 |
Sokomine |
krock: ah, ok. wouldn't consider "trim" to be an appropriate name for that. sounds more like trimming a hedge...cutting off surplus leaves .-) |
17:52 |
Soni |
she* |
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xfceKris |
correction....she |
17:53 |
xfceKris |
my apologies |
17:53 |
Calinou |
use "they" |
17:53 |
xfceKris |
eh, gender rolls are lame. everyone is equal in my book. |
17:54 |
Calinou |
gender trolls :) |
17:54 |
xfceKris |
Plus the english language sucks. Most other languages have a "gender neutral" term for situations where you don't know the gender...english does not. |
17:55 |
xfceKris |
Yeah, "they" is neutral, but it's also plural...not singular |
17:55 |
Soni |
meh... Calinou this is why you shouldn't ping random people |
17:55 |
Soni |
xfceKris, "you" is also plural |
17:55 |
Soni |
(inb4 you try to argue it isn't) |
17:56 |
Krock |
Sokomine, but it cuts the leaves :P |
17:56 |
xfceKris |
Ah, but you is referring directly to whom you are speaking...not useful for a third party. |
17:56 |
xfceKris |
you think Grammar is a MF game? |
17:56 |
xfceKris |
lmao |
17:56 |
xfceKris |
anyway. |
17:56 |
Soni |
xfceKris, singular "you" is no different from singular "they" |
17:57 |
xfceKris |
Krock. it doesn't need to cut the leaves, those break once the top node of the trunk is removed. |
17:57 |
Soni |
singular "you" comes from plural "you", singular "they" comes from plural "they" |
17:57 |
Krock |
xfceKris, you know, cutting them and calculating the dropped items it way easier to use ^^ |
17:57 |
xfceKris |
I think that's why the mod has to use minetest.remove_node |
17:57 |
Krock |
*is |
17:58 |
Krock |
no, you just could use vmanip |
17:58 |
Soni |
also singular "they" is old .-. |
17:58 |
Krock |
they is plural, isn't it? |
17:58 |
Soni |
exists since the 1800s |
17:58 |
xfceKris |
instead of after_dig_node |
17:58 |
Soni |
Krock, so is 'you' |
17:59 |
Krock |
So if someone calls me "you" then I'm multiple times there? |
17:59 |
xfceKris |
Not in that scenario |
17:59 |
Krock |
ik, jk |
18:00 |
Soni |
so if someone calls me "they" then I'm multiple times there? |
18:00 |
Krock |
Yup. |
18:00 |
xfceKris |
That's why us southerners say ya'll. It separates singular and plural forms of "you" |
18:00 |
Soni |
we say things like "who left their phone here?" all the time y'know |
18:00 |
Soni |
not "who left his phone here?" |
18:00 |
xfceKris |
also, nobody that actually understands grammar would refer to a single person as "they"...it's a plural term |
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Calinou |
"Qui a laissé son téléphone ici ?" in French |
18:01 |
Calinou |
it is gender-neutral |
18:01 |
Calinou |
because "son" is for the phone, not for the person |
18:01 |
Krock |
oh I see. Already wondered how to say that neutral |
18:01 |
swift110 |
hmm |
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xfceKris |
Ah, but now we differenciate between they're, there, and their. |
18:01 |
Krock |
Your correct. |
18:01 |
xfceKris |
differentiate* |
18:01 |
Soni |
xfceKris, tom scott |
18:02 |
Soni |
.help |
18:02 |
Soni |
.commands |
18:02 |
Soni |
meh |
18:02 |
Krock |
!help |
18:02 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
18:02 |
xfceKris |
Soni, who is tom scot? |
18:02 |
xfceKris |
scott* |
18:02 |
xfceKris |
fingers aren't listening to me today. |
18:02 |
Soni |
!g tom scott gender neutral pronouns youtube |
18:02 |
MinetestBot |
Soni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ehrFk-gLk |
18:03 |
xfceKris |
word... |
18:03 |
* xfceKris |
watches |
18:03 |
Calinou |
excel... |
18:03 |
Soni |
!g tom scott wikipedia |
18:03 |
MinetestBot |
Soni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Scott_(musician) |
18:03 |
Krock |
"Oh hi fingers! Can you all hear me?" |
18:03 |
Soni |
uhh wrong tom scott |
18:03 |
xfceKris |
lmao Krock |
18:03 |
Soni |
meh too lazy to figure out how to get the right one |
18:03 |
Krock |
Soni, refer to lmgtfy.com or lmddgtfy |
18:04 |
Soni |
!g Tom Scott entertainer wikipedia |
18:04 |
MinetestBot |
Soni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Scott_(entertainer) |
18:04 |
Soni |
that's the right tom scott |
18:04 |
Krock |
But Scott Joplin wrote the entertainer, not tom. |
18:04 |
xfceKris |
Krock, what is lmddgtfy? I know lmgtfy. |
18:05 |
Calinou |
Let Me DuckDuckGo That For You |
18:05 |
Krock |
xfceKris, let me DuckDuckGo that for you. |
18:05 |
Calinou |
the ethical replacement of lmgtfy :) |
18:05 |
Krock |
grr. always those ninjas |
18:05 |
Calinou |
Ninja Training! |
18:05 |
xfceKris |
Ethical? |
18:05 |
Krock |
privacy etc |
18:05 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/KOBUGE-Games/ninja-training |
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18:06 |
Krock |
I think a typeracer link would be more helpful for the ninjas here |
18:06 |
Soni |
tom scott is so cute and so hot and so amazing and yeah I have a crush on him .-. |
18:06 |
Calinou |
http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english |
18:06 |
Soni |
he's just so perfect |
18:06 |
Calinou |
what's your score? |
18:07 |
Krock |
I'd need a flat keboard to get the ultimative speed |
18:07 |
Krock |
also, complete sentences would bemuch easier to write :( |
18:08 |
Calinou |
Words per minute (WPM)106 |
18:08 |
Calinou |
Keystrokes542 |
18:08 |
Calinou |
(531 | 11) |
18:08 |
Calinou |
Correct words103 |
18:08 |
Calinou |
Wrong words2 |
18:08 |
Calinou |
You are better than 98.32% of all users (position 2148 of 128207 - last 24 hours) |
18:08 |
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18:08 |
Calinou |
You are better than 98.32% of all users (position 2148 of 128207 - last 24 hours) |
18:08 |
Calinou |
there :) |
18:08 |
Krock |
pastebin for the win |
18:08 |
Krock |
yes we got that already |
18:08 |
Calinou |
ok |
18:08 |
Krock |
congrats |
18:10 |
Krock |
ou are better than 65.79% of all users |
18:10 |
Krock |
at least something |
18:10 |
Amaz |
You are better than 80.17% of all users :) |
18:10 |
xfceKris |
The problem with me doing it is my daughter is on my lap, still got 53 wpm and 79.22% |
18:10 |
Amaz |
Wow! |
18:11 |
Krock |
*looks for a site with real sentences to write* |
18:11 |
swift110 |
lol |
18:11 |
xfceKris |
Krock, right? that slowed me down too. |
18:12 |
Krock |
xfceKris, thing is: I need the half time to read and remember the word :P |
18:12 |
Krock |
*cries* |
18:14 |
xfceKris |
64 wpm this time and 86.47% |
18:14 |
Soni |
I'm guessing that works better on a mech keyboard |
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xfceKris |
I'm using a wireless logitech K350 keyboard |
18:15 |
xfceKris |
sitting across the room... |
18:15 |
xfceKris |
looking at my 39" TV Computer moniter... |
18:15 |
Krock |
writing across the room... |
18:15 |
xfceKris |
monitor* |
18:15 |
Calinou |
my screen is 24", but I have a new 48" TV now |
18:16 |
Calinou |
Logitech G11 |
18:16 |
xfceKris |
If I'm sitting at a desk, I see no reason for anything bigger than 20-24" myself. |
18:16 |
xfceKris |
But I'm on my couch... |
18:16 |
Calinou |
25" would be ideal, but it's very rare |
18:16 |
Calinou |
25" 2560×1440 to be accurate :) |
18:17 |
xfceKris |
that's a one inch difference from what you have now...How does that make a big difference? |
18:17 |
xfceKris |
^^not sarcasm, honest curiousity. |
18:18 |
Obani |
* xfceKris wonders if there are any good fps games in linux...like halo or mw2 |
18:18 |
Krock |
!c (2560*1440) / (1280*1024) |
18:18 |
MinetestBot |
2.8125 |
18:18 |
Calinou |
it's tiny I know |
18:18 |
Obani |
Try unvanquished or Xonotic |
18:18 |
Calinou |
but would you go to 23" instead of 24"? |
18:18 |
Obani |
It might be some of the bests :) |
18:18 |
Calinou |
http://etlegacy.com/ |
18:18 |
* xfceKris |
takes note |
18:18 |
Calinou |
"Friends don't let friends revive nazis" |
18:18 |
xfceKris |
thanks Obani |
18:18 |
Krock |
Wow. about 3 times more pixels on Calinou's screen |
18:18 |
Obani |
Also try thedarkmod for a good first person thief game |
18:18 |
Obani |
Warsow is also a very good quake like |
18:18 |
Calinou |
Krock, I'm only in 1920×1080. |
18:19 |
Calinou |
I saw a 2560×1440 screen in 24" the other day |
18:19 |
Obani |
xfceKris, also Urban Terror, as a Counter Strike clone |
18:19 |
Calinou |
370 € |
18:19 |
Krock |
!c (1920*1080) / (1280*1024) |
18:19 |
Obani |
afk (om nom nom) |
18:19 |
MinetestBot |
1.58203125 |
18:19 |
Calinou |
ehm no |
18:19 |
Calinou |
290 € |
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xfceKris |
I've got to stop trying to find games on Ubuntu Software Center |
18:28 |
* xfceKris |
shakes head |
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18:28 |
Calinou |
it's essentially Debian packages |
18:28 |
Calinou |
many games are not packaged there |
18:28 |
Calinou |
like Stunt Rally |
18:30 |
xfceKris |
I'm gonna venture a guess that less than 20% of installable software for *buntu distros is actually in the software center. |
18:31 |
Krock |
remove a zero and the guess could be more exact |
18:32 |
nanepiwo |
i feel like i made a stupid mistake here but dont know whats wrong |
18:32 |
nanepiwo |
minetest.register_alias("paragenv7:grass","default:dirt_with_grass") |
18:34 |
Calinou |
xfceKris, no, Debian has a lot of packages compared to other distributions |
18:34 |
Calinou |
but other distributions are kind of catching up |
18:52 |
xfceKris |
ETlegacy looks awesome...I LOVED Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. |
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xfceKris |
so, I can't find that tree trim mod you were talking about Krock |
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xfceKris |
my google-fu isn't strong enough I guess |
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Krock |
!mod treecapitator] |
19:18 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: TreeCapitator [treecapitator] by Hybrid Dog - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4772 |
19:20 |
xfceKris |
well then, You should have just said that it was meant to behead the trees.lmao |
19:20 |
Krock |
xfceKris, just checked for all mods that contain "tree" or "timber" and selected the best one |
19:20 |
Krock |
I saw the mod on a server but there were too many other mods, so I wasn't sure which one exactly |
19:21 |
xfceKris |
word, Maybe I'll look into making an "improved one" as part of my "teach yourself lua by beating yourself over the head with it" regimen. |
19:21 |
xfceKris |
"improved" one* |
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Obani |
xfceKris, still trying to find some good 3d games ? :) |
19:26 |
Calinou |
write one! |
19:27 |
Calinou |
http://godotengine.org/projects/godot-engine |
19:28 |
xfceKris |
lol, I've got six tabs open for those games you guys mentioned, plus a Portal "non-clone" |
19:28 |
xfceKris |
But sure, I'll take more suggestionss |
19:28 |
Krock |
Minetest is a good 3D game |
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xfceKris |
I see what you did there Krock...I am unamused, stop doing it. |
19:32 |
Krock |
Do you mean the kitten meat in my chests or the lava generated stone mountain? |
19:32 |
xfceKris |
Why not both? |
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Krock |
But at least one of them I need to live |
19:34 |
xfceKris |
The mountain, got to have the mountain to live...The kitten meat is questionable. |
19:37 |
Obani |
xfceKris, as a clone of ace of spades, you have open spades |
19:38 |
Obani |
xfceKris, do you know Cube Engine 2 ? |
19:39 |
xfceKris |
nope |
19:39 |
xfceKris |
!g Open Spades |
19:39 |
MinetestBot |
xfceKris: http://gamejolt.com/games/openspades/46984 |
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xfceKris |
Open spades is windows and mac only...no linux support. |
19:47 |
Krock |
drink wine? |
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zat |
I just drank some and I am drunk |
19:48 |
zat |
(really) |
19:48 |
zat |
I came |
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xfceKris |
no, I drink beer. Hate wine (love the drink, hate the software.) |
19:49 |
Krock |
rekt |
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zat |
I came |
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zat |
to ask |
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zat |
someone knows what is the name of that new minetest-like game Celeron is making? |
19:50 |
Krock |
see his GitHub acc |
19:50 |
zat |
I don't know it and am too drunk |
19:50 |
zat |
xfceKris: name some good beer brands pl0x |
19:50 |
Krock |
lie down and try again in 10 hours |
19:51 |
zat |
no way, my father birthday is in 4 more hours |
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zat |
we were about to buy some Budweiser but then we went to another supermarket and they did not have it there |
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zat |
so I ended up buying some Peruvian one that was super cheap |
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zat |
no no, it is Bolivian. |
19:52 |
Krock |
too dunk.. can't read.. hah! |
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zat |
that's basketbally |
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zat |
LOLCOPTER |
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xfceKris |
I like lagers and ales...check out the magic hat line, also there is a good selection of local brews at every Mellow Mushroom if you have one near you. |
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xfceKris |
zat^^^ |
20:01 |
Calinou |
xfceKris, OpenSpades does support GNU/Linux. |
20:01 |
Calinou |
I've used it in the past. |
20:01 |
Calinou |
you need to compile it yourself |
20:01 |
Calinou |
zat, Buildat |
20:01 |
Calinou |
it's inactive for 1 year now |
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zat |
KIK |
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zat |
oh damn |
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zat |
Minetest needs an urgent rewrite I think |
20:03 |
xfceKris |
Why so zat? |
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Calinou |
it won't happen |
20:03 |
zat |
It can't be that I have to wait ten minutes to connect to a new server |
20:03 |
Krock |
zat, please begin. |
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zat |
Krock: I will when if (!drunk && hastime) |
20:04 |
Krock |
is that happening somewhen? |
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Calinou |
zat, tell servers to use less mods, or to use remote media |
20:04 |
Krock |
(not saying that you're drunk all the time) |
20:04 |
zat |
if I keep drinking the way I do it is near Infinity |
20:05 |
zat |
Javascriptily thinking though |
20:06 |
zat |
Calinou: I think that if you pretend to make a framework for sandbox games it should be in a lower level than Minetest is |
20:06 |
Calinou |
in which way? |
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zat |
its inherent frameworkness restrict any form of inter-operational paradigm |
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nrzkt |
!server Appletree |
20:16 |
MinetestBot |
nrzkt: AppleTree - Survival & Build | pts.epixel-game.net | Clients: 11/50, 9/11 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / epixel | Ping: 12ms |
20:17 |
Krock |
It's grey, like the sky. |
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zat |
paradigm... you know |
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Obani |
xfceKris, nop |
20:25 |
Obani |
OpenSpades is on LInux |
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20:26 |
Obani |
And also for cube2engine |
20:27 |
Obani |
xfceKris, some games made with Cube2Engine http://redeclipse.net/ http://sauerbraten.org/ http://assault.cubers.net/ |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Fractal mapgen: Fix mysterious bug 3a4bcf3 http://git.io/vCZiY (2015-10-10T21:27:44+01:00) |
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xfceKris |
would that mysterious bug be the one that causes servers to randomly kick people off? |
20:30 |
Krock |
> Fractal mapgen |
20:30 |
Krock |
> randomly kick people of |
20:30 |
Krock |
Those things are so similar like water and stone |
20:31 |
zat |
xfceKris: ever played Rise of the Triad? |
20:31 |
nm0i |
Actually been thinking on "meteor shower" weather with random kick... |
20:31 |
xfceKris |
lol, I know. I should have said /s/ |
20:31 |
zat |
"I am freeeeeeee" |
20:31 |
xfceKris |
!g Rise of the Triad |
20:31 |
MinetestBot |
xfceKris: http://riseofthetriad.net/ |
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zat |
I am talking about the first one |
20:32 |
zat |
circa 90s |
20:34 |
Calinou |
Obani, AssaultCube is Cube 1, not Cube 2 |
20:34 |
Calinou |
they went with Cube 1 even when Cube 2 was available... |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi |
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Out`Of`Control |
is there a mod to seperate logs? |
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Obani |
Calinou, that's why it has so bad graphics x) |
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xfceKris |
Out`Of`Control: what do you mean? |
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Out`Of`Control |
xfceKris: split chat and other info |
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Out`Of`Control |
so chat is saved to other file, not debug.txt |
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xfceKris |
Oh, you mean chat, I thought you meant something else |
20:48 |
xfceKris |
I have no idea, but I'm sure someone here might be able to help |
20:49 |
Calinou |
I am on 60 channels! |
20:49 |
Calinou |
on 4 networks |
20:49 |
swift110 |
where can I get mods for minetest? |
20:49 |
Out`Of`Control |
i mean debug.txt it gets too big |
20:50 |
Calinou |
swift110, http://forum.minetest.net -> Mod Releases |
20:50 |
Calinou |
Out`Of`Control, debug_log_level = 0 |
20:50 |
Calinou |
disables logging to debug.txt |
20:50 |
Out`Of`Control |
i need it to see errors, just would like to split info into other file |
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swift110 |
cool thanks Calinou |
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Out`Of`Control |
some info like chat |
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Calinou |
use logrotate then |
20:51 |
Calinou |
but if you're on Windows, you're out of luck |
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Out`Of`Control |
Calinou: what is windows? |
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bleak_fire_ |
Anyone know a server with Unified Inventory Lite, so I can take a look at it before I add it to mine? |
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bleak_fire_ |
I'm having problems with disappearing players and VanessaE suggested using it |
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bleak_fire_ |
it doesnt seem to work though, and i dont see anything relevant using grep, so i'm guessing i have an older version of unified inventory installed |
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Out`Of`Control |
bleak_fire_: i have it installed |
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Out`Of`Control |
bleak_fire_: Liberty Land |
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Out`Of`Control |
its a bit out of date too, I have recent one on test server can show you that one too |
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bleak_fire_ |
what do you mean "out of date"? |
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bleak_fire_ |
was it removed you think from the version of unified_inventory i have? |
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bleak_fire_ |
because i added it to the config and it still isnt using the lite layout |
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Out`Of`Control |
bleak_fire_: i have old one on Liberty Land server |
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bleak_fire_ |
ok |
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bleak_fire_ |
but was it removed from later versions of unified inventory? |
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Out`Of`Control |
no |
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bleak_fire_ |
i just connected to liberty land ad it looks like the regular unified inventory to me... |
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bleak_fire_ |
i thought unified inventory had a smaller box on the left side with the items to choose from |
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bleak_fire_ |
unified inventory lite |
21:20 |
bleak_fire_ |
while regular unified inventory had the bigger box on the right |
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Out`Of`Control |
yes type /mods |
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Out`Of`Control |
its not lite |
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comradmax |
isnt 'lite' just a setting in the new UI? |
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bleak_fire_ |
that's what i was talking about when i was looking for a server with "lite" |
21:21 |
comradmax |
it's not the name of the mod |
21:21 |
comradmax |
it's a mode in ui |
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bleak_fire_ |
i know |
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Out`Of`Control |
bleak_fire_: sorry i misread you |
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bleak_fire_ |
but it doesnt seem to work in my config so i'm wondering if i have an older version of unified_inventory on my server |
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bleak_fire_ |
ok |
21:22 |
comradmax |
probably, where did you getit? |
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bleak_fire_ |
Out`Of`Control do you know any unified_inventory_lite servers off the top of your head? |
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bleak_fire_ |
i had a server early this year which was short lived, and started a new one last week which i'm sure is permanent |
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Out`Of`Control |
bleak_fire_: try to find http://servers.minetest.net/ |
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bleak_fire_ |
before i announce |
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bleak_fire_ |
in the forum |
21:23 |
bleak_fire_ |
i want to see if it works right first |
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bleak_fire_ |
because i did it the wrong way when i tried the first time |
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bleak_fire_ |
Out`Of`Control i can try each one and try and remember which one had the lite inventory |
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bleak_fire_ |
but it is just a config setting VanessaE told me that |
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bleak_fire_ |
it isnt working for me so that's just my guess |
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Out`Of`Control |
you get anny errors? |
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comradmax |
bleak_fire_: that setting is a recent addition to the code, you either had a diff version, or an older release of UI |
21:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
oh ok |
21:25 |
comradmax |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory |
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bleak_fire_ |
that's probably it |
21:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
if i update it do you think it will break everything? |
21:25 |
comradmax |
whatever you have, get rid of it, and try this |
21:25 |
comradmax |
no, back up your existing mod dir |
21:25 |
comradmax |
delete UI that you have, use the new one, rejoyce |
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bleak_fire_ |
ok so everyone will still have everything |
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Out`Of`Control |
i always test first localy |
21:26 |
comradmax |
bleak_fire_: back up EVERYTHING, repeat other steps |
21:27 |
comradmax |
ABB, always be backingup |
21:27 |
comradmax |
ABBU |
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comradmax |
!g ABBU |
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MinetestBot |
comradmax: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/convert-address-book-abbu-file-csv-57969.html |
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Out`Of`Control |
backup your backup haha |
21:27 |
comradmax |
interesting |
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comradmax |
for days this room was dead, i stepped away for half a day, and there is 1M new messages. 'you' is always plural, it is just used to refer to single individuals, not because it's also singular, but because the English language is inherently polite. |
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comradmax |
also kittens are cute, and so are adult cats |
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bleak_fire_ |
Nope, still shows up as full |
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bleak_fire_ |
not lite |
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bleak_fire_ |
does it only show up as lite for tablets? |
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comradmax |
try with a brand new user |
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* Krock |
found the cosine interpolation and is happy |
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comradmax |
Krock: for shading? like Phong? |
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Krock |
comradmax, nah. Just for a trivial noise calculation |
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bleak_fire_ |
hmm apparently lots of my stuff is old |
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bleak_fire_ |
didnt know they updated stuff so often |
21:46 |
comradmax |
yea ppl go nuts for this game |
21:47 |
bleak_fire_ |
hey it works for a non-admin user |
21:47 |
comradmax |
it probably works for any new user |
21:47 |
comradmax |
or no? |
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bleak_fire_ |
working for non-admin accounts i set up for myself |
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bleak_fire_ |
i mean i dont care it's other people having problems |
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bleak_fire_ |
plus it gets rid of settime etc |
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comradmax |
check the auth file, are there are privs set that have to do with UI? maybe the existing users have "full" somehow |
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bleak_fire_ |
no the existing users have the lite but admin has the full |
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comradmax |
oh, ok, so you got everything you set out to do |
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bleak_fire_ |
as do new users |
21:49 |
bleak_fire_ |
set up a new test account |
21:50 |
bleak_fire_ |
now to update the rest of the outdated mods |
21:50 |
comradmax |
!next |
21:50 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
21:50 |
bleak_fire_ |
lol |
21:50 |
bleak_fire_ |
thank you |
21:50 |
comradmax |
im usually a lot less helpful, but yw |
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comradmax |
Krock: are you trying to get rich playing the stocks? |
21:52 |
Krock |
huh |
21:53 |
comradmax |
price is a signal, and it has noise |
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bleak_fire_ |
i was late March 2015 that I had the server |
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bleak_fire_ |
is datastorage dangerous to update? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, y'all... is LazyJ here often? |
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A_Gal |
i have no idea |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, at least now I have some Idea... I didn't have a clue before. XD |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
(That was just a playful jab... thanks for the answer at any rate. ;-) |
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* Jordach |
is busy finding holes within the forum avatar display system |
22:51 |
Jordach |
there's a reason why i used to have a 128px sized picture |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Why's that Jordach? |
22:55 |
Jordach |
i'm suspicious about something |
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Jordach |
when we first got phpbb, we had support for 128px images |
22:56 |
Jordach |
it got changed to 64px for random reasons |
22:56 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
It is probably so that they can eek out the storage. |
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diemartin |
128px doesn't make the file size much larger, unless you are using .bmp or such |
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Jordach |
but i have a theory, i'd like to test |
23:00 |
diemartin |
and yet we allow animated .gif ... |
23:00 |
Jordach |
*sits and watches gimp process frames* |
23:00 |
diemartin |
also, o/ Jordach |
23:00 |
Jordach |
1) make a 64px image |
23:01 |
Jordach |
2) use the offsite avatar optiob |
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23:01 |
Jordach |
3) replace said image with a higher res version |
23:01 |
diemartin |
I want the optiob where you spell it option, please |
23:01 |
diemartin |
<_< |
23:01 |
diemartin |
does that even work? |
23:01 |
Jordach |
maybe |
23:01 |
Jordach |
am testing it |
23:02 |
Jordach |
http://jordach.net/Images/BlenderStuff/test2.gif |
23:02 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=332 |
23:02 |
Jordach |
notice the image source |
23:03 |
diemartin |
so... not worky :/ |
23:03 |
Jordach |
except higher resolution |
23:03 |
Jordach |
for those goddamn high DPI machines |
23:03 |
diemartin |
... |
23:04 |
Jordach |
i'm also suspicious that svgs are supported |
23:06 |
diemartin |
I guess IE (and his PC) crashed |
23:06 |
diemartin |
:> |
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23:20 |
bleak_fire_ |
hi |
23:20 |
bleak_fire_ |
every minetest mod i updated is not being read by the existing world |
23:20 |
comradmax |
open world.mt and change all that |
23:20 |
diemartin |
have you enabled them? |
23:20 |
bleak_fire_ |
it's the same folder name |
23:22 |
bleak_fire_ |
found under /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game-0.4.13/mods |
23:23 |
bleak_fire_ |
unsatisfied dependencies are all there |
23:23 |
diemartin |
open world.mt and see if they are disabled there. try re-enabling them (by either manually editing the file or using the "Configure" dialog) |
23:24 |
diemartin |
also, where are you storing mods? |
23:24 |
bleak_fire_ |
there's nothing in world.mt other than gameid, backend, creative_mode, and enable_damage |
23:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
i was having trouble when i set stuff up so i put everything in the global folder |
23:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
some mods needed to be installed in the global folder iirc |
23:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
but mods weren't generating if i installed them locally |
23:25 |
diemartin |
no mod should be installed in the global folder |
23:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
it's the only way i got everything to work... |
23:25 |
diemartin |
is this a server or sp? |
23:26 |
bleak_fire_ |
what's an sp? |
23:26 |
diemartin |
singleplayer |
23:26 |
bleak_fire_ |
server |
23:27 |
diemartin |
if you don't intend to share mods across worlds, you can install mods into <world>/worldmods (create if necessary) |
23:27 |
bleak_fire_ |
i tried when i set it up but it wasnt working |
23:27 |
bleak_fire_ |
and it's obviously too late now |
23:27 |
bleak_fire_ |
every mod has the exact same folder name |
23:27 |
bleak_fire_ |
in the exact same folder |
23:27 |
bleak_fire_ |
but it isnt being found |
23:28 |
bleak_fire_ |
example ERROR[main]: mod "nature_classic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "moretrees" |
23:28 |
bleak_fire_ |
moretrees is what i replaced |
23:28 |
bleak_fire_ |
same folder name |
23:28 |
bleak_fire_ |
same folder location |
23:29 |
bleak_fire_ |
wait it's only a few of them |
23:29 |
bleak_fire_ |
for most of them, it cites "biome_lib" |
23:30 |
diemartin |
ah, that used to be "plants_lib" (from plantlife IIRC) |
23:30 |
bleak_fire_ |
well i renamed plantfile_modpack to plantlife since that's what it used to be |
23:30 |
bleak_fire_ |
should i do a symlink from biome_lib to plants_lib? |
23:31 |
diemartin |
have you updated plantlife to latest, and can find biome_lib somewhere? |
23:31 |
bleak_fire_ |
plantlife was one of the ones i updated |
23:31 |
bleak_fire_ |
yes biome_lib is one of the ones cited |
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23:33 |
diemartin |
bleak_fire_, do you have this? https://github.com/VanessaE/biome_lib |
23:33 |
diemartin |
it was forked from plantlife recently IIRC |
23:33 |
bleak_fire_ |
no |
23:33 |
bleak_fire_ |
well the versions i was using were from march at latest |
23:34 |
bleak_fire_ |
so i'll instlal that |
23:34 |
diemartin |
well, try installing it. it provides what used to be the core of plantlife |
23:36 |
bleak_fire_ |
OK, no dependency errors! |
23:36 |
bleak_fire_ |
thank you diemartin |
23:36 |
bleak_fire_ |
now to try the server |
23:36 |
bleak_fire_ |
think i should do a /clearall or whatever it is? |
23:36 |
diemartin |
bleak_fire_, glad to be of help. you are quite welcome |
23:37 |
diemartin |
I don't recall if plantslib uses entities. if you see unknown objects, yes, run /clearobjects |
23:38 |
bleak_fire_ |
uh oh missing acacia leaves |
23:38 |
bleak_fire_ |
acacia wood |
23:39 |
bleak_fire_ |
actually no thats not it |
23:39 |
bleak_fire_ |
but my street signs are all weird |
23:39 |
bleak_fire_ |
the text is where it's supposed to be but the signs are in all different directions |
23:39 |
diemartin |
press F5 and it should show you the pointed node name |
23:39 |
diemartin |
ah |
23:40 |
diemartin |
blame me for that :( |
23:40 |
bleak_fire_ |
what do you mean |
23:40 |
diemartin |
teh random yaw bug strikes again. never got around to fixing it |
23:40 |
bleak_fire_ |
i can go around the village and fix it for myself |
23:41 |
bleak_fire_ |
what's the yaw bug? |
23:41 |
diemartin |
dunno :P some users report seeing signs' text facing the wrong direction |
23:42 |
bleak_fire_ |
it only happened after this upgrade |
23:42 |
bleak_fire_ |
not too much of a pain to redo everything for myself |
23:42 |
bleak_fire_ |
but can it be fixed? |
23:42 |
bleak_fire_ |
or is it a "bug" |
23:44 |
diemartin |
it can be fixed, but as I couldn't reproduce it, don't really know where to look |
23:44 |
bleak_fire_ |
ok |
23:44 |
bleak_fire_ |
i always do lots of signs and travelnets i'm big on that |
23:44 |
diemartin |
but now that you mention it, my guess is there was some changes in the placement code that rotated the signs but not the text accordingly |
23:45 |
diemartin |
sooo... expect something soon(tm) |
23:48 |
bleak_fire_ |
hmm having a tough time reinstalling some of the sideways signs |
23:48 |
bleak_fire_ |
if one is behind anothr |
23:49 |
bleak_fire_ |
it's just doing the normal "on the building" way |
23:49 |
bleak_fire_ |
though on poles it works |
23:50 |
diemartin |
I don't quite follow. could you show me a screenshot? |
23:53 |
bleak_fire_ |
it's going across poles but not out from sides of buildings anymore |
23:54 |
bleak_fire_ |
connect to the server i noticed you and see |
23:54 |
diemartin |
this will take a while |
23:55 |
bleak_fire_ |
for you to join you mean? |
23:56 |
bleak_fire_ |
i'm afraid to do a clearobjects, if i lose it all or not |
23:56 |
diemartin |
for now, don't |
23:57 |
diemartin |
it's kaeza in there, btw |