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freelikegnu |
greeting |
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STHGOM |
is there no way to drop things if you have item_drop installed? |
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VanessaE |
don't use item_drop |
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VanessaE |
use item_tweaks |
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VanessaE |
it works far better |
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iio7 |
I am getting a strange result when trying to compile 0.4.13: http://pastebin.com/XamnyFBA |
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Jordach |
>china may be using sea to hide it's submarines |
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Jordach |
hah |
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STHGOM |
um, what is item_tweaks supposed to do? |
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VanessaE |
it does the same as item_drop |
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VanessaE |
you just have to add the mod, enable it, and configure it |
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STHGOM |
configure? |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
enable_item_drops = false |
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VanessaE |
enable_item_pickup = true |
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VanessaE |
remove_items = 600 |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
put these in your minetest.conf |
01:19 |
VanessaE |
change as desired. |
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iio7 |
I don't get this, will not compile properly. |
01:21 |
VanessaE |
compiles fine for me |
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STHGOM |
600 seconds? |
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VanessaE |
yeah, 10 mins |
01:22 |
VanessaE |
I forget what the default is |
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iio7 |
Yeah, on another box it does too, but on this box (both having the same OS), it will not. But no errors are given, looks just like this: http://pastebin.com/XamnyFBA and it takes about 5 seconds. |
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STHGOM |
k thanks V |
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kahrl_ |
iio7: you need a -DBUILD_SERVER=1 |
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iio7 |
kahrl_, thanks, I thought the client 0/1 was enough. |
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kahrl_ |
nah they're separate and BUILD_SERVER defaults to off, so if you say -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 then neither will be built |
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iio7 |
kahrl_, thanks! Saved my night! ;) |
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kahrl_ |
np :) |
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rater193 |
hi VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Putz3000 |
hey guys, question for you all. I am running Fedora 22 and minetest 0.4.12. The .13 release looks pretty sweet (I have it on my eOS) installs but can't figure out how to upgrade my fedora box. What is the easiest way to get past the repo problem and upgrade to .13? |
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swift110-phone |
Hey |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hi, rater193. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
afk, just wanted to say Hi when i saw ya'. |
02:49 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
(My little brother is playing on my PC.... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
) |
03:02 |
swift110-phone |
Cool |
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rater193 |
sry, i was afk |
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rater193 |
im back! |
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rater193 |
hello JohnnyComeL8ly |
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rater193 |
hello GunshipPenguin ! |
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Putz3000 |
hey guys, question for you all. I am running Fedora 22 and minetest 0.4.12. The .13 release looks pretty sweet (I have it on my eOS) installs but can't figure out how to upgrade my fedora box. What is the easiest way to get past the repo problem and upgrade to .13? |
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GunshipPenguin |
Putz3000, you could compile it yourself |
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swift110-phone |
Hey |
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DI3HARD139 |
how does durability work in minetest? |
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EndymionM |
Silly question - how do I deactivate a piece of minetest-game for a specific world, like, say, give_initial_stuff? |
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GunshipPenguin |
EndymionM, I don't believe that's possible without removing the mod that you want to disable from the minetest_game/mods directory |
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GunshipPenguin: Dang. It'd be nice to have that option |
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Calinou |
http://www.minetest.net/ |
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Calinou |
new site is up |
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technics_ |
huhu - is its possible to send servermessages from the terminal? |
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Calinou |
technics_, no |
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technics_ |
oh, okey...thanks for your answer :) |
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kahrl_ |
technics_: you might be interested in https://github.com/est31/minetest/tree/ncurses-console |
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DusXMT |
The new site looks kinda... kinda |
10:48 |
DusXMT |
I mean, it's not bad, but it just looks tasteless |
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technics_ |
kahrl_, looks interesting, thankyou :) |
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Calinou |
DusXMT, needs moar background colors :) |
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kilbith |
so, VanessaE, as we are fetching the private stuff... |
11:51 |
kilbith |
don't you want to share your opinions you hold about muslims and your little provocations against christians ? |
11:51 |
kilbith |
(as the jewish you are, that is) |
11:53 |
VanessaE |
from off-topic-for-minetest-dev to totally-off-topic-for-anything...... |
11:53 |
VanessaE |
that's supposed to bother me somehow? my opinions about bible-thumping christians and extremist muslims are well-known. |
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kilbith |
ah, you initiated that stuff... |
11:54 |
kilbith |
not just extremists :) |
11:54 |
VanessaE |
no, YOU did by going on personal attacks for months now |
11:54 |
kilbith |
come on, don't be an hypocrite/liar in public |
11:54 |
kilbith |
also, |
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VanessaE |
ok let's see... "incompetent", "hypocrite", "liar", ...what else? |
11:55 |
VanessaE |
why don't you just throw the entire G*d damned thesaurus at the channel and get it all over with |
11:55 |
kilbith |
should i mention you're yourself parasiting your country to live behind the excuse of "disabling" ? |
11:55 |
VanessaE |
and now "parasite" |
11:55 |
VanessaE |
heh. |
11:55 |
kilbith |
but meanwhile eating ton of fat/junky food for getting bigger and more immobile... |
11:55 |
VanessaE |
go ahead, kilbith. keep digging that hole. |
11:56 |
kilbith |
see how it's harming, isn't it ? |
11:56 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
11:56 |
VanessaE |
doesn't bother me at all. |
11:56 |
kilbith |
sure, you keep your pride |
11:57 |
kilbith |
come on, share us your opinions about regular muslims living in Israel... |
11:58 |
kilbith |
the badass one you hold in PM |
11:59 |
VanessaE |
go right ahead and say it if you want. |
11:59 |
VanessaE |
you think you're something special because you can regurgitate opinions that have already been expressed somewhere a lot more public than this IRC, that's fine by me. |
11:59 |
kilbith |
yeah, what i expected |
11:59 |
kilbith |
no balls to express them publicly |
12:00 |
VanessaE |
or perhaps I just don't remember which comment you're even talking about. |
12:02 |
kilbith |
there's an old christian quote saying : |
12:02 |
kilbith |
"before pointing the speck in your neighbor's eye, removes the beam that is in your own eye" |
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VanessaE |
yeah and perhaps you should adhere to it, if you're gonna quote it. |
12:06 |
kilbith |
you reached first the private sphere in public for (trying to) humiliate me |
12:06 |
VanessaE |
you started this attack months ago, I don't even remember how it got started, and thus far I have refrained from saying anything beyond basically telling you to knock it off. |
12:06 |
VanessaE |
until today, that is. |
12:06 |
kilbith |
and now fetching excuses, as usual |
12:07 |
VanessaE |
and well you SHOULD be humiliated. you've been a total asshole toward me for months, and others are starting to say the same things as well. |
12:07 |
kilbith |
the chronology of your acting does not lie at least |
12:07 |
kilbith |
i was critizing always in the context of Minetest, unlike you |
12:08 |
VanessaE |
you were not criticizing. |
12:08 |
VanessaE |
you were *attacking* |
12:08 |
VanessaE |
there's a BIG difference between the two |
12:08 |
kilbith |
in the VanessaE's head, criticize a mod == personal attack |
12:09 |
kilbith |
i never, ever fetched some detail of your private life publicly |
12:09 |
VanessaE |
I don't know about where you live, but where I'm from, words such as "incompetent" are considered personal attacks |
12:10 |
kilbith |
i don't remember saying that to you |
12:10 |
kilbith |
but sure, i was harsh a lot about dreambuilder |
12:10 |
VanessaE |
I'm not even talking about that. |
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VanessaE |
(though I don't remember for sure what that particular insult was aimed at) |
12:11 |
kilbith |
i really don't remember where i said that |
12:11 |
VanessaE |
again, for months now - since at least mid-May - you have been attacking me every chance you get. and you STILL haven't explained what started that. |
12:11 |
kilbith |
but it it was, it was in the context of MT |
12:11 |
kilbith |
but if* |
12:12 |
kilbith |
i didn't think you're incompetent at everything |
12:12 |
DusXMT |
13:50 < kilbith> so, VanessaE, as we are fetching the private stuff... |
12:12 |
DusXMT |
13:51 < kilbith> don't you want to share your opinions you hold about muslims and your little provocations against christians ? |
12:12 |
DusXMT |
Doesn't seem to MT-context to me... |
12:13 |
DusXMT |
s/to/too/ |
12:16 |
VanessaE |
kilbith: so you tell me, then -- at what point did YOu expect me to just tell you to go fuck yourself, or something equivalent? |
12:17 |
DusXMT |
VanessaE: Most IRC clients have an ignore functionality, if he's getting on your netves, then simply say goodbye and you won't see a message from him ever again, I had to block someone like that already... |
12:17 |
VanessaE |
DusXMT: I'm quite aware, but I don't generally like using /ignore. causes me to miss parts of an otherwise legit conversation. |
12:17 |
kilbith |
you can freely insult me without i take offense, really |
12:18 |
kilbith |
but something i don't tolerate is violating my private life |
12:18 |
* VanessaE |
watches as kilbith sidesteps two questions in a row. |
12:18 |
kilbith |
you started first, the chronology shows it |
12:18 |
VanessaE |
how? |
12:19 |
kilbith |
oh lol |
12:19 |
VanessaE |
what did I say back in May that started you down this ridiculous path? |
12:19 |
kilbith |
in minetest-dev |
12:19 |
kilbith |
unless you're twisting the reality of your needs |
12:20 |
rubenwardy |
Mummy, why are you and daddy fighting? |
12:20 |
kilbith |
s/of/for |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: heh |
12:20 |
kilbith |
DusXMT: not your business, and who's the hell are you even ? |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
kilbith: again, what did I say BACK IN MAY (or whenever it was) that started you down this ridiculous path? |
12:22 |
DusXMT |
kilbith: Who am I? A minetest player, who plays with some of VanessaE's mods. And this _is_ a public chatroom, I think you're forgetting |
12:22 |
kilbith |
you started to refer about my mother and so on |
12:22 |
VanessaE |
wat |
12:27 |
kilbith |
that's nice to represent me as a mollusk living at the expense of his mother and then saying "i don't care of your feelings" |
12:28 |
VanessaE |
again, for the n'th time, |
12:28 |
kilbith |
without even knowing my situation |
12:28 |
VanessaE |
kilbith: again, what did I say __BACK IN MAY__ (or whenever it was) that started you down this ridiculous path? |
12:28 |
kilbith |
you did say what |
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kilbith |
you're yourself living at the expense of your country so your remark is quite misplaced |
12:30 |
VanessaE |
the small amount of money I make from my disability, I PAID for while working. |
12:30 |
VanessaE |
I earned every last penny I get. |
12:30 |
kilbith |
and i'm not backbiter about some religions, unlike certains |
12:32 |
kilbith |
you're not even aware that i work |
12:33 |
kilbith |
nor do i participate to the expenses at home |
12:33 |
kilbith |
just guessing from 8000 km away |
12:34 |
VanessaE |
I'm going by what you've explicitly said in the past. |
12:34 |
kilbith |
in a very assertive manner |
12:34 |
VanessaE |
yep. |
12:35 |
VanessaE |
I could have been a lot worse. instead I chose to respond with a force I perceived to be equal to the worst you've thrown at me over these past months. |
12:36 |
kilbith |
you could have retort still in the MT context |
12:37 |
VanessaE |
I responded to an offtopic comment with an offtopic comment. |
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VanessaE |
[08-30 06:48] <kilbith> seem like you have no real life <--- not even slightly minetest relaetd. |
12:37 |
VanessaE |
related* |
12:37 |
kilbith |
only difference : "seem like"; you, you're purely fetching assertively my private stuff |
12:38 |
kilbith |
that's fundamental |
12:38 |
VanessaE |
you also need to learn a few more euphemisms. "this from the guy that ...X" is polite way of calling you a hypocrite. |
12:38 |
kilbith |
but well, i'm sure you'll find some excuses again |
12:40 |
VanessaE |
(for those in here that aren't in -dev, that's right after him saying, [08-30 06:48] <kilbith> your problem, commenting on everything with a low-relevance ) |
12:40 |
VanessaE |
my comments are rarely of low-relevance. |
12:40 |
VanessaE |
if they were, someone besides you would say so. |
12:40 |
kilbith |
... in the context of Minetest, not your damn private life |
12:41 |
kilbith |
in France, it is an offense punishable by law |
12:41 |
kilbith |
if we shared the same legislation, i'd have rights to sue you |
12:42 |
VanessaE |
and were you in the US< I could sue you for harassment. |
12:42 |
kilbith |
for harassment about what ? |
12:42 |
VanessaE |
you have been harassing me and insulting me every chance you get for months now, for no reason whatsoever |
12:42 |
nrzkt |
in US we could sue about anything. |
12:42 |
kilbith |
"he attacked me saying my textures looks terrible" |
12:42 |
kilbith |
lol |
12:43 |
nrzkt |
can you stop this here and go in PM ? it's not a battleground, it's minetest channel and it seems that your conversation is not MT related |
12:43 |
VanessaE |
nrzkt: true enough. sad thing is, so many lawsuits win without much ground. :P |
12:43 |
kilbith |
oh yeah, saying "your game is bloated" is an obnoxious insult |
12:45 |
VanessaE |
look, I'm not going to go digging through my logs and scouring github et al. to find shit that you've been saying. |
12:45 |
VanessaE |
and you STILL haven't explained what started this. |
12:46 |
kilbith |
in your head you mean ? |
12:46 |
kilbith |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection |
12:48 |
kilbith |
and i'm even forced to lowering my rhetoric by using your simplistic language... |
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Piggybear87 |
Are there any forum mods/admins here? |
13:08 |
VanessaE |
Piggybear87: what do you need? |
13:08 |
Piggybear87 |
I can't get into my account. |
13:08 |
VanessaE |
uh oh. |
13:08 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: ^^^^ another side effect of the domain tweak? |
13:08 |
Piggybear87 |
Yeah, and I don't have the email I had when I signed up. |
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Piggybear87 |
moontest? I just noticed that. Are we a new game now? |
13:09 |
VanessaE |
nope |
13:09 |
VanessaE |
just a new website design |
13:09 |
VanessaE |
with some data coming from a github.io page I think |
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VanessaE |
hm, my login works |
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Piggybear87 |
But why moontest? Lol. You could do that with Minetest.net. |
13:10 |
VanessaE |
where do you see moontest at? |
13:10 |
Piggybear87 |
In the url bar. |
13:10 |
Piggybear87 |
"moontest.org" |
13:10 |
VanessaE |
nope, works fine here. minetest.net --> http://www.minetest.net/ |
13:11 |
VanessaE |
OH |
13:11 |
VanessaE |
that's OldCoder's forum copy |
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VanessaE |
you don't want that one, you want forum.minetest.net |
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Piggybear87 |
Oh. I clicked on a googled mod topic and it sent me there... Sorry, I didn't notice. |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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Piggybear87 |
Thank you, VanessaE. |
13:13 |
VanessaE |
you're welcome. not that I did anything :) |
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rubenwardy |
any ideas? https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c2865739e8368ab592f0 |
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rubenwardy |
what happens if you push_back whilst iterating through a std::vector? |
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nore |
<rubenwardy> what happens if you push_back whilst iterating through a std::vector? <-- something bad |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, I think that's my problem |
13:37 |
nore |
it can invalidate the iterator |
13:44 |
rubenwardy |
no crashes yet, so I guess I fixed it |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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CWz |
hello VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hey |
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Piggybear87 |
Away for a bot. |
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* VanessaE |
wonders which bot Piggybear went off to see ;) |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi all |
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freelikegnu |
is there a channel for minetest servers running the irc mod? |
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CWz |
there is inchra irc server which is full of irc connected servers |
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TheWild |
"Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result". It seems to be easier to remove the fork, then fork Minetest again. |
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TheWild |
what is server_unload_unused_data_timeout |
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Calinou |
how much the server will wait before unloading unused MapBlocks |
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Calinou |
higher value is smoother, but will use more RAM |
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TheWild |
thank you |
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TheWild |
I'll put your definition to the sample config, ok? |
18:19 |
Calinou |
yes, in a comment |
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Calinou |
it's already in minetest.conf.example |
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TheWild |
nope, there was an option without explanation |
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reber |
hi all |
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notrobot |
hello |
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VanessaE |
hi, |
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notrobot |
anyone got a loaded server i can deploy, community favorite mods and so forth included, im on linux |
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Calinou |
notrobot, just install Carbone NG and play :) |
19:40 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=12824 |
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ensonic |
hej, a friend of my kid showed him how to use TNT and placed a stack of ~20 TNT blocks, now when we get near this stash the TNT goes boom and the game crashes (https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/658) |
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ensonic |
any idea how to fix the world and remove the TNT blocks? |
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ensonic |
I've tried worldedit, but it seems to have a different understanding of positions :/ |
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VanessaE |
delete the TNT mod |
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VanessaE |
start the world |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
remove the "unknown node" blocks |
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VanessaE |
well you can just disable TNT |
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notrobot |
Calinou thanks! |
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VanessaE |
in any case do that. and leave it disabled. |
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ensonic |
VanessaE, I did not install any tnt mod, I think it is part of the minetest game |
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notrobot |
will this carbone have minecarts and redstone type things? |
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ensonic |
aha, /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/tnt |
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VanessaE |
ensonic: that's correct. |
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VanessaE |
ensonic: but you can disable it in your minetest.conf |
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* ensonic |
searches for the config docs |
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Calinou |
enable_tnt = false, ensonic |
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ensonic |
good to know, in the gui menu i cannot disable it |
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ensonic |
Calinou, thanks! |
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VanessaE |
thanks, Calinou |
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VanessaE |
couldn't remember the setting. |
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iio7 |
I am having some problems compiling Minetest on Alpine Linux. I get the following "Could NOT find CURL (missing: CURL_LIBRARY CURL_INCLUDE_DIR)", but Curl is installed. How do I fix that? |
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notrobot |
the readme says ;To use this game with Minetest, insert this repository as /games/minetest_game |
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notrobot |
where is this supposed to go? |
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Calinou |
iio7, which "version" of cURL? openssl, gnutls? |
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Calinou |
there are various builds of cURL around |
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Calinou |
notrobot, ~/.minetest/games/minetest_game on GNU/Linux |
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Calinou |
on Windows, same folder as Minetest installation |
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notrobot |
ty |
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iio7 |
curl -V gives me "curl 7.42.1 (i486-alpine-linux-musl) libcurl/7.42.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8 libssh2/1.5.0" |
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Calinou |
perhaps create an issue on GitHub, or on forum |
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notrobot |
when i go to start a new game it should show up under game as Carbon-ng correct? |
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ensonic |
VanessaE, thanks, everything good again |
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VanessaE |
ensonic: you're welcome |
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Zaitabai |
And aye yi yi will always mine you! |
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Zaitabai |
There are people here, very few people, on the ground... |
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Zaitabai |
Are there any good video/pdf tutorials on how to start making/modding a game in minetest? Thanks to anyone who answers. |
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sofar |
Zaitabai: read the lua_api.txt, and read other mods' code |
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Zaitabai |
Thanks, I'm guessing that lua_api.txt comes with minetest and that the code can be viewed with notepad++ |
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sofar |
Zaitabai: it's in github, and yes, it's plain txt :^) |
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OldCoder |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13148 |
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OldCoder |
cornernote, ruskie, Jordach, VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13148 |
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Jordach |
wow |
23:42 |
Jordach |
just saw the new minetest.net |
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VanessaE |
inb4 "hate it" |
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VanessaE |
:) |
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Jordach |
is gud |
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hmmmm |
"meet minetest"? |
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hmmmm |
is minetest a person or something? |
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hmmmm |
i feel as if this is trying way too hard to be hip and web 3.0 |