Time |
Nick |
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00:08 |
AndroidKris |
can mesecons pistons be used to lift, say, a section of floor? |
00:12 |
VanessaE |
yes |
00:12 |
VanessaE |
but only to a small degree |
00:12 |
VanessaE |
pistons don't stack well, you might be able to elevate the floor section by 2m at most, if you're careful with your circuit |
00:13 |
VanessaE |
point at the ground and place the piston and it'll point up. |
00:14 |
VanessaE |
regular pistons will push the floor and whatever's above it up and it'll stay there on retract. sticky pistons will drag the floor section back down with them when they retract (but idk if the blocks above the floor will follow) |
00:14 |
Sokomine |
hmm |
00:14 |
Hijiri |
I don't think they follow |
00:14 |
Hijiri |
but you can pull the top piston down |
00:14 |
* Sokomine |
looks at one of the pistons |
00:15 |
Hijiri |
and then have the top piston go up and pull the node down another block |
00:15 |
Hijiri |
if you were willing to make the convoluted circuit, I think you could make it arbitrarily high |
00:15 |
Hijiri |
I'm not sure though, maybe you would run out of space for the wires |
00:16 |
Hijiri |
also it probably takes something like O(h^2) operations, where h is the height of the piston tower |
00:16 |
Sokomine |
afaik pistons can push up to 20 blocks? or was that the movestone? i seldom use them |
00:16 |
Hijiri |
actually I don't know about the arbitrarily high, I think pistons have a limit to how many blocks they push |
00:16 |
Hijiri |
movestone I have no idea |
00:17 |
Hijiri |
last time I tried them I couldn't get them to work |
00:17 |
Sokomine |
no idea if movestones work at all |
00:17 |
Sokomine |
the only thing i sometimes use are nodebreakers. mostly to dig wood automaticly for very small machines |
00:22 |
AndroidKris |
Say I wan't to lift a section of floor that's 4x4 nodes. Will a piston at each corner work? |
00:22 |
Hijiri |
I think a piston only pushes blocks on its axis of pushing |
00:23 |
AndroidKris |
So directly on top, nothing connected to the block that it's pushing. |
00:23 |
Hijiri |
yep |
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AndroidKris |
k, I'll have to split the floor james bond style then. |
00:23 |
AndroidKris |
lol |
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00:23 |
Hijiri |
it will push other blocks that are in the direction of pushing |
00:23 |
Hijiri |
but nothing perpendicular etc |
00:24 |
Johnsen2 |
VanessaE |
00:24 |
VanessaE |
Johnsen2: don't even start. not here. |
00:24 |
AndroidKris |
Awesome, Thanks Hijiri and VanessaE |
00:25 |
Johnsen2 |
VanessaE i cant join #minetest |
00:25 |
VanessaE |
Johnsen2: because I made that channel invite-only for now |
00:26 |
Johnsen2 |
Well, ill go playing http://www.combat3.com |
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00:45 |
AndroidKris |
Okay, I thought this was #minetest |
00:45 |
VanessaE |
it is. |
00:45 |
VanessaE |
but he's talking about a different network |
00:45 |
AndroidKris |
ah. |
00:45 |
VanessaE |
where several Minetest server IRC bots are located in a common chat |
00:46 |
AndroidKris |
for you l33t guys, gotcha |
00:46 |
VanessaE |
heh |
00:46 |
Sokomine |
just join one of the servers :-) then you may talk on that channel through the server's bot |
00:47 |
AndroidKris |
Sorry, I don't think I would like to be on that server. I'll speak for myself, don't need a bot to do it for me.lol |
00:47 |
VanessaE |
haha |
00:48 |
Sokomine |
the bot just forwards what's said in the chat on the server so that you can talk with players on other servers |
00:48 |
Sokomine |
that's a very convenient thing and good to have |
00:48 |
AndroidKris |
ah, so you'll be talking on that network, but I'll see the message here on freenode. |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
not on freenode |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
but on the network those bots are on - irc.inchra.net |
00:50 |
AndroidKris |
I'm not trackin. Laymans terms please |
00:50 |
AndroidKris |
Or an example. |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
as freenode, efnet, ircnet, newnet, and so on are IRC networks, so is Inchra. that address points to the main server you'd connect to to use it. |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
anything said while signed into one of the Minetest game servers that are connected to that network will appear in whatever channel the server has joined, usually #minetest |
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03:18 |
hmmmm |
hey |
03:25 |
Zeno` |
heya |
03:25 |
Zeno` |
what's shaking? |
03:25 |
hmmmm |
nothing |
03:25 |
hmmmm |
just looking at initializePaths()... what a horror show |
03:25 |
Zeno` |
well, there is a lot of horror |
03:25 |
Zeno` |
lol |
03:26 |
Zeno` |
I was looking at touchscreengui.cpp |
03:26 |
Zeno` |
Pretty sure I might rewrite it from scratch |
03:27 |
hmmmm |
for RUN_IN_PLACE=0, why is it okay for Linux to attempt to find the share dir based on the exec path but not other POSIX-like |
03:27 |
Zeno` |
*shrug* |
03:28 |
Zeno` |
I don't really mind as long as it keeps looking in ~/.minetest |
03:28 |
hmmmm |
hmmm |
03:28 |
hmmmm |
/opt/bin/minetest is the path it'd be, right? |
03:29 |
Zeno` |
well, I really don't know. Distros do different things :/ |
03:30 |
hmmmm |
i think it is safe to assume that the share dir for minetest would be under the same prefix as the bin |
03:30 |
Zeno` |
Looking at that function, I can't help but wonder whether sometimes it's better to #ifdef the entire function for each implementation rather than having all the #ifdef/#elif/#etc within the actual function heh |
03:31 |
hmmmm |
yeah |
03:31 |
hmmmm |
that's what I thought |
03:31 |
Zeno` |
Yeah, I've never actually done a system install so I'm not sure where it would go. But logically what you say is correct |
03:32 |
hmmmm |
I'm trying to think of what solaris does |
03:32 |
hmmmm |
this would totally F up if it was being run by root |
03:34 |
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03:35 |
Zeno` |
? on solaris? |
03:35 |
hmmmm |
yeah |
03:35 |
Zeno` |
I know someone who ran their server as root |
03:36 |
Zeno` |
I pointed out that they were crazy and they said "oh, I'm only testing" lol |
03:36 |
hmmmm |
yeah you're right |
03:36 |
hmmmm |
this is nuts. who on earth is going to run minetest on solaris as root and expect it to just work |
03:36 |
hmmmm |
but it'll be a pleasant surprise when it does =] |
03:37 |
Zeno` |
well, I would *hope* someone running solaris these days would know better heh |
03:37 |
VanessaE |
system install for debian at least goes to /usr/local/* unless you change your install prefix |
03:37 |
hmmmm |
so it's /usr/local for some linux distros too |
03:37 |
VanessaE |
/opt/minetest would have been a better location imho |
03:37 |
Zeno` |
shouldn't it be retrieved from cmake? |
03:37 |
VanessaE |
I have MY install set to go to /usr/* though |
03:37 |
hmmmm |
yeah true |
03:37 |
hmmmm |
it should be |
03:38 |
hmmmm |
why are we not using cmake for this bullshit |
03:38 |
Zeno` |
the function probably hasn't really been looked at since it was initially written |
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06:20 |
cd2 |
hi |
06:21 |
cd2 |
how to programm a minetest-client in python? |
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06:24 |
cd2 |
I found something on the Internet: |
06:24 |
cd2 |
https://github.com/boppreh/minetesting |
06:25 |
cd2 |
but it doesnt work |
06:37 |
AndroidKris |
client? |
06:38 |
AndroidKris |
like third party software to run the already prebuilt software? |
06:38 |
Etzos |
cd2: Why do you want a minetest-client in Python? |
06:39 |
cd2 |
I try to programm a simple minetest robot (AI) wich plays minetest for me :) |
06:40 |
AndroidKris |
minetest is to complex of an application to have a "simple" AI to work for you. |
06:41 |
cd2 |
I tryed it in c++ too, (based on the orginal minetest client) |
06:41 |
AndroidKris |
The best I could think of would be something you could input a blueprint into and let it build, given the materials and enough free space. |
06:42 |
cd2 |
I found this : https://github.com/boppreh/minetesting |
06:42 |
cd2 |
minetest client in python |
06:42 |
AndroidKris |
And as you previously stated, it doesn't work. |
06:42 |
cd2 |
but it doesnt work |
06:43 |
cd2 |
Error : could not allocate player |
06:43 |
AndroidKris |
Need to find the coords and input them somewhere, maybe. |
06:43 |
cd2 |
AndroidKris : Yes I Did and I did it again XD |
06:44 |
AndroidKris |
I know nothing of py. |
06:44 |
cd2 |
hmm, good idea |
06:44 |
AndroidKris |
You'll have to read through the entire python script to even hope to find if that's the case. |
06:45 |
AndroidKris |
Hope it's a short script. |
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06:46 |
cd2 |
the 2. error : Access denied. Reason: Your client sent something server didn't expect.Try reconnecting or updating your client |
06:48 |
AndroidKris |
that python script is for remote controlling a character, not automation. |
06:48 |
cd2 |
I know |
06:48 |
AndroidKris |
it allows say, my character on a server, to be controlled by possibly you. |
06:48 |
AndroidKris |
How do you plan on turning that into automation? |
06:49 |
Etzos |
The same way bots are made for other games. |
06:49 |
cd2 |
there are some commands : turn(), walk(), teleport()... |
06:49 |
cd2 |
in MinetestClient class |
06:50 |
AndroidKris |
I guess you'll have to modify the posted mod and scripts to point to a local (user created) script that would tell the bot what to do. |
06:50 |
AndroidKris |
but you'd have to write a new script every time you want it to do a different task. |
06:51 |
AndroidKris |
well, maybe not, depending on how much can actually be done with a python script. |
06:52 |
cd2 |
... |
06:52 |
AndroidKris |
creating a virtual server would minimize changes to the original script. |
06:53 |
AndroidKris |
Don't hate me, It's 3am and Im wired. |
06:53 |
cd2 |
Whats a virtual server? |
06:53 |
cd2 |
I dont hate you :) |
06:54 |
AndroidKris |
It's turning your pc into a server that only hosts you, and only when you tell it to basically. |
06:54 |
AndroidKris |
I can set one up here in a matter of 30 minutes or so. |
06:55 |
AndroidKris |
All you are doing is hosting yourself as a client, on your local network, twice. We'll call one client the puppet and the other is the puppeteer. |
06:57 |
AndroidKris |
That would require running two instances of minetest, which I'm not sure is possible. Never tried, let alone on a local, virtual server |
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06:57 |
cd2 |
hmm, I already tryed that |
06:58 |
cd2 |
It works, but my client doesnt work |
06:58 |
AndroidKris |
two pc's would work then. |
06:58 |
AndroidKris |
or even a handheld, like android tablet or so. |
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06:59 |
AndroidKris |
the virtual server pc would also have to play host to the puppet instance of your minetest ai. |
07:00 |
cd2 |
I got an error message : 08:59:45: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: : Failed to emerge player |
07:00 |
cd2 |
08:59:45: ERROR[ServerThread]: TOSERVER_INIT2 stage 2 client init failed for peer 2 |
07:01 |
AndroidKris |
Is that from trying to open minetest twice? |
07:01 |
cd2 |
nop |
07:01 |
cd2 |
Its from connecting the client ai to my local server |
07:02 |
AndroidKris |
HA, i just realized that even when you log in as singleplayer to play a local game, minetest itself creates a virtual server. |
07:02 |
AndroidKris |
read all the crap on the loading bar..."creating server" "joining server" etc. |
07:03 |
AndroidKris |
Okay, enough for tonight. Good luck to you. Hope you figure it out. If you do...please share on minetest.net |
07:03 |
AndroidKris |
I'd love to try out a mod like this. |
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07:06 |
cd2 |
thx |
07:06 |
cd2 |
I will try it :) |
07:08 |
Etzos |
I would guess that the Python client isn't sending the ACK properly to the server, but I'd have to look at the minetest server code more to figure it out. |
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Creeper |
Thanks for the cool MODS and hard work behind the scenes, i had to Creep in to thank everyone! :) |
09:08 |
Creeper |
Standard MineTest without MOBS got boring after a few weeks, but now it´s cool and for free so it beats MineCraft! :D |
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11:10 |
xenkey |
mods and mobs |
11:16 |
xenkey |
Etzos: !! |
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11:23 |
YvesLevier |
Hey. I used a script that force me to be client on my server. Then cause of Java, my server is slowdowned. I wanna reinstall my server and my personal client serarately without loosing my world. Any hint? |
11:23 |
YvesLevier |
Plz |
11:24 |
est31 |
YvesLevier you have to back up the worlds directory |
11:25 |
YvesLevier |
you mean .minetest? |
11:25 |
YvesLevier |
How? |
11:25 |
est31 |
try moving .minetest to another location and start minetest |
11:25 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
11:27 |
YvesLevier |
.minetest in home copied to "Another location" folder on desktop |
11:27 |
YvesLevier |
didnt move but copied |
11:27 |
YvesLevier |
est31: shall all really move? |
11:27 |
est31 |
yes really move |
11:27 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
11:28 |
est31 |
I want to find out whether when you start minetest, your world has disappeared |
11:28 |
est31 |
because if it has, you know that your world is in the .minetest folder you moved right now |
11:28 |
YvesLevier |
.minetest no longer in my home folder. |
11:29 |
YvesLevier |
then try restart using term> cd Bureau .... Then : ./Minetest/bin/minetest |
11:30 |
YvesLevier |
(dont have a launcher atm) |
11:30 |
YvesLevier |
is that it? |
11:30 |
est31 |
so does the client list your world? |
11:31 |
YvesLevier |
lost my world port and all |
11:32 |
YvesLevier |
Even my name |
11:32 |
est31 |
ok |
11:32 |
est31 |
then you know the minetest is in there |
11:32 |
est31 |
you can safely back up that directory now |
11:32 |
YvesLevier |
seems |
11:32 |
est31 |
ok in theory your world can be at another location too |
11:34 |
YvesLevier |
not im my clients apparently. I make a copy on network? What you mean friend. Thx btw. |
11:34 |
est31 |
YvesLevier, try to put the .minetest directory back and start the server |
11:34 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
11:34 |
est31 |
There will be a line ACTION[main]: World at [world directory here] |
11:34 |
est31 |
so thats where your world is |
11:36 |
YvesLevier |
it made a new .minetest as soon i restarded minetest first. Empty one apparently. I overwrite the empty by my backup. Right? |
11:36 |
est31 |
yes delete the empty one |
11:37 |
YvesLevier |
This time i copied from my backup |
11:38 |
est31 |
now start it |
11:38 |
est31 |
and look for the line |
11:38 |
YvesLevier |
but i didnt understand your : |
11:38 |
YvesLevier |
07:34:41 - est31Â : There will be a line ACTION[main]: World at [world directory here] |
11:38 |
YvesLevier |
07:34:50 - est31Â : so thats where your world is |
11:38 |
est31 |
when you start the server in the console |
11:38 |
est31 |
there is some output |
11:38 |
YvesLevier |
i restart or try to understand ACTION you names |
11:39 |
YvesLevier |
sure |
11:39 |
YvesLevier |
lemme see |
11:39 |
YvesLevier |
i retreaved all. Apparently. |
11:40 |
YvesLevier |
ACTION[ServerThread]: MOBF: saving entity without spawntime setting current time |
11:40 |
est31 |
go higher |
11:40 |
YvesLevier |
what you mean "higher"? |
11:41 |
est31 |
scroll up until you see ascii art "MINETEST" |
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YvesLevier |
i no longer see ascii art. brb i change term size |
11:44 |
est31 |
you can also have a look at debug.txt |
11:44 |
YvesLevier |
i confirm. No ascii art |
11:45 |
YvesLevier |
WARNING: system-wide share not found at "/usr/local/share/minetest" |
11:45 |
YvesLevier |
WARNING: system-wide share not found at "/home/levier2/Bureau/Minetest/bin/../share/minetest" |
11:45 |
YvesLevier |
WARNING: system-wide share found at "/home/levier2/Bureau/Minetest/bin/.." |
11:45 |
YvesLevier |
i feel strange |
11:46 |
YvesLevier |
maybe i didnt close properly |
11:46 |
YvesLevier |
brb |
11:47 |
est31 |
ignore those |
11:48 |
YvesLevier |
it starts my minetest apparently normaly. But with alot less term messages than usual |
11:48 |
YvesLevier |
Didnt try to entrer btw |
11:49 |
YvesLevier |
I tought i firstly installed bad scritps at first. |
11:49 |
YvesLevier |
Listening |
11:51 |
YvesLevier |
est31: Will wait your instructions idealy dont get too many people trying to help me at the time |
11:51 |
YvesLevier |
take your time est |
11:51 |
est31 |
have you found the line? |
11:52 |
YvesLevier |
What line? |
11:52 |
YvesLevier |
Sry im lost atm |
11:53 |
est31 |
ACTION[main]: World at |
11:54 |
YvesLevier |
not in term |
11:54 |
est31 |
you have started the world? |
11:54 |
YvesLevier |
not yet |
11:54 |
YvesLevier |
shall i? |
11:55 |
YvesLevier |
as server? |
11:55 |
YvesLevier |
i mean tabs |
11:56 |
YvesLevier |
do i try to play? |
11:56 |
YvesLevier |
Still have my copy but : |
11:57 |
est31 |
yes play, open your inventory, close it, then close minetest |
11:57 |
est31 |
then look at the log |
11:57 |
est31 |
and search for the line |
11:57 |
YvesLevier |
before : must tell im having a (no dot) minetest folder on my desktop |
11:58 |
YvesLevier |
then i go for it? Start and look at inventory then log. Ok? |
11:59 |
YvesLevier |
i wanna get sure i dont get you lost in my operations. |
11:59 |
YvesLevier |
This is why i hold for confirmations before to do anything |
11:59 |
est31 |
so have you done it |
12:00 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
12:02 |
YvesLevier |
got ascii art then : |
12:02 |
YvesLevier |
World at [/home/levier2/.minetest/worlds/StCamille] |
12:02 |
est31 |
ok then |
12:02 |
est31 |
then thats your directory |
12:02 |
est31 |
so if you copy .minetest, that should be enough |
12:03 |
YvesLevier |
looks like |
12:03 |
YvesLevier |
but how separate my server and client? It starts a client, as usual. |
12:03 |
YvesLevier |
Understood what i seek? |
12:04 |
YvesLevier |
In otherwords Java started |
12:04 |
YvesLevier |
on a server i hope to be free to serve. Not draw. |
12:04 |
YvesLevier |
Am i intelligible? |
12:05 |
YvesLevier |
i mean do i make sence? |
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12:08 |
YvesLevier |
How to tell.... I retrieve all my world and all. But im still a client of my own server. |
12:08 |
YvesLevier |
Thats make my server to lost some requests from clients. = some bugs. |
12:08 |
YvesLevier |
i think |
12:09 |
YvesLevier |
est31: Am I followable? |
12:09 |
est31 |
no |
12:09 |
est31 |
I can tell you how to separate client and server |
12:09 |
YvesLevier |
Yes |
12:10 |
YvesLevier |
Thats what i want |
12:10 |
YvesLevier |
plz |
12:10 |
tim_flatus |
Can anyone enlighten me as to what causes corrupted double-linked list errors? Is it something to do with glibc versions or is there likely to be something wrong with my lua? |
12:10 |
tim_flatus |
I realise that it's a know issue |
12:11 |
tim_flatus |
I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do about it |
12:12 |
tim_flatus |
Other han learn how to use valgrind or whatever |
12:12 |
YvesLevier |
est31: English isnt my first language. Sorry for that. But you understood what im seeking. Separe client and server. |
12:13 |
YvesLevier |
Will use another computer for client and leave my server free to serve... |
12:13 |
tim_flatus |
minetestserver YvesLevier |
12:14 |
YvesLevier |
a script? |
12:14 |
YvesLevier |
Est trying to do so for me... getting sure i wont loose my world |
12:15 |
tim_flatus |
It is a separate app |
12:15 |
tim_flatus |
ok |
12:15 |
YvesLevier |
so then there is a minetestserver script AND a minetestclient? |
12:15 |
tim_flatus |
You can copy the world folder ... |
12:16 |
tim_flatus |
There is minetestserver and minetest |
12:16 |
YvesLevier |
lemme look in .minetest |
12:16 |
tim_flatus |
These are executables |
12:16 |
YvesLevier |
executables? |
12:17 |
YvesLevier |
im in Linux tim |
12:17 |
xenkey |
LINUX HAS EXECUTABLES |
12:17 |
YvesLevier |
xenkey :) nice to see you |
12:17 |
xenkey |
They're just in ELF and have no extension |
12:18 |
YvesLevier |
but i need to compile to get them. Right? |
12:18 |
tim_flatus |
no |
12:18 |
tim_flatus |
not necessarily |
12:18 |
YvesLevier |
How then? |
12:18 |
tim_flatus |
apt-get? |
12:18 |
xenkey |
minetest --server |
12:18 |
xenkey |
minetestserver(5) |
12:18 |
YvesLevier |
ok |
12:19 |
tim_flatus |
I run minetestserver |
12:19 |
xenkey |
sorry 6 |
12:19 |
YvesLevier |
kk 6 |
12:19 |
tim_flatus |
on Debian |
12:19 |
YvesLevier |
then i can get client on my server, but not necessary. Right? |
12:19 |
tim_flatus |
minetestserver is just command-line |
12:20 |
tim_flatus |
So you use minetest as a client |
12:20 |
YvesLevier |
i thouth so |
12:20 |
YvesLevier |
My actual client/server - then i choose client to connect to my server |
12:20 |
YvesLevier |
is that what you mean? |
12:20 |
tim_flatus |
yes |
12:21 |
YvesLevier |
command is apt-get --server minetestserver(6)? |
12:21 |
xenkey |
... |
12:21 |
xenkey |
lol |
12:21 |
tim_flatus |
hein? |
12:21 |
xenkey |
lol |
12:22 |
YvesLevier |
as you see im nOOb enough |
12:22 |
YvesLevier |
but i need it |
12:22 |
tim_flatus |
YvesLevier what is 1ier langue and what is your distro? |
12:22 |
YvesLevier |
Step by step plz |
12:22 |
xenkey |
you want to be spoon fed |
12:22 |
xenkey |
just say |
12:22 |
xenkey |
"minetestserver" |
12:22 |
YvesLevier |
im french and using Ubuntu 14.04 |
12:23 |
xenkey |
"minetestserver" |
12:23 |
xenkey |
thats the command |
12:23 |
tim_flatus |
ok so - apt-get minetestserver |
12:23 |
xenkey |
minetest supplies it |
12:23 |
tim_flatus |
$sudo apt-get minetestserver |
12:23 |
tim_flatus |
Does it ok |
12:24 |
tim_flatus |
So it is installed all ready YvesLevier |
12:25 |
YvesLevier |
made sudo su |
12:25 |
YvesLevier |
then : apt-get minetestserver |
12:25 |
YvesLevier |
that tell that this not exist |
12:25 |
xenkey |
minetest |
12:25 |
xenkey |
apt-get minetest |
12:25 |
xenkey |
apt-get install minetest |
12:25 |
YvesLevier |
install |
12:25 |
YvesLevier |
... |
12:25 |
YvesLevier |
of course |
12:27 |
* tim_flatus |
is not properly awake yet |
12:27 |
xenkey |
same |
12:27 |
* sfan5 |
is a cat |
12:27 |
YvesLevier |
telling that all is already installed yet |
12:27 |
YvesLevier |
i try minetestserver in commandline? |
12:27 |
tim_flatus |
yes YvesLevier c'est bon |
12:28 |
YvesLevier |
Got the ascii art and looks like waiting |
12:29 |
YvesLevier |
Now i start my usual minetest? |
12:29 |
YvesLevier |
will it recognize my old mods and worlds? |
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YvesLevier |
take your time |
12:29 |
tim_flatus |
minetestserver --worldname <world> --config ~/.minetest/minetest.conf --logfile debug.txt |
12:30 |
tim_flatus |
yes it is the same |
12:30 |
YvesLevier |
lemme look - anyway i got plenty backups |
12:30 |
YvesLevier |
brb |
12:30 |
* tim_flatus |
feeds sfan5 4 fish |
12:31 |
* sfan5 |
noms fish |
12:36 |
YvesLevier |
My server is looking on port 30000 instead of 6661 as i told and dont recognize my pass. |
12:36 |
YvesLevier |
Any clue? |
12:36 |
tim_flatus |
You are not singleplayer |
12:36 |
YvesLevier |
No. and i wasnt |
12:37 |
tim_flatus |
ok |
12:37 |
YvesLevier |
my problem was only i got client PLUS server even i want to use another computer for graphics in order my server to works better for my clients |
12:38 |
YvesLevier |
is that kinda english? |
12:38 |
tim_flatus |
So run minetestserver on the other computer. |
12:39 |
tim_flatus |
You will need to copy he world folder and minetest.conf |
12:40 |
YvesLevier |
will be still able to run a client on my own server? |
12:40 |
tim_flatus |
In minetest.conf set port = 6661 |
12:40 |
YvesLevier |
i already have a client computer |
12:40 |
xenkey |
is it really that difficult |
12:40 |
tim_flatus |
If that is what you want |
12:40 |
xenkey |
is it |
12:41 |
xenkey |
no its not kindly rtfm |
12:41 |
tim_flatus |
^ that would be better |
12:41 |
YvesLevier |
i see ( i think) |
12:41 |
xenkey |
I also see |
12:44 |
YvesLevier |
its already at 6661 in .conf |
12:45 |
YvesLevier |
Shall i clean (copy) .minetest out then restart server? |
12:45 |
tim_flatus |
So point your client at port 6661 |
12:45 |
YvesLevier |
my router |
12:46 |
tim_flatus |
ah maybe you need to set portforwarding too |
12:46 |
YvesLevier |
brb i reset to 30000 |
12:46 |
YvesLevier |
i tried with Ankman |
12:46 |
YvesLevier |
having a TPlink de marde |
12:46 |
YvesLevier |
brb |
12:46 |
xenkey |
hey do you want to be swatted |
12:46 |
xenkey |
if not then RTFM |
12:49 |
YvesLevier |
i fear i installed my minetest very a wrong way |
12:49 |
YvesLevier |
at start. |
12:49 |
* tim_flatus |
has a nice cup of stfu ;-) |
12:49 |
YvesLevier |
do you share that feeling? |
12:49 |
xenkey |
idktf |
12:50 |
xenkey |
i do everything the right way sir |
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tim_flatus |
vous devez lire le manuel YvesLevier |
12:51 |
YvesLevier |
tim_flatus: about minetest or my language? |
12:51 |
xenkey |
yes i agree rtfm |
12:51 |
tim_flatus |
about minetest |
12:52 |
tim_flatus |
I know what works for me, but not for you |
12:53 |
YvesLevier |
server and client/server dont seem to point at the same place. |
12:53 |
YvesLevier |
will backup then start new installation |
12:53 |
Zeno` |
I don't have a manual :( |
12:53 |
tim_flatus |
Well make it so then |
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YvesLevier |
thx for all - wheres that manual plz? |
12:54 |
* tim_flatus |
facepalms |
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tim_flatus |
chons vat! |
13:01 |
YvesLevier |
having a .minetest in /root AND in /home (...) |
13:01 |
tim_flatus |
delete the one in /root |
13:01 |
YvesLevier |
is that because i made sudo su? |
13:03 |
tim_flatus |
I don't know. |
13:04 |
tim_flatus |
You should not run minetest as root |
13:04 |
Zeno` |
sudo su? su is switch user, sudo is switch user and do... sudo su doesn't make a whole lot of sense |
13:04 |
tim_flatus |
He means he has enabled su - Ubuntu is b0rken like that |
13:05 |
Zeno` |
shouldn't make a difference. Anyway as tim_flatus said, you should not be running minetestserver as root |
13:06 |
tim_flatus |
That would be what creates a .minetest folder in /root |
13:07 |
CWz |
hey Zeno` |
13:07 |
YvesLevier |
That was the problem |
13:07 |
YvesLevier |
Thx again. Now all is working fine :) |
13:09 |
tim_flatus |
merveilleuse! :-) |
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Zeno` |
sudo passwd is the first command I run if using ubuntu lol |
13:11 |
* tim_flatus |
is a Debian chauvinist |
13:12 |
tim_flatus |
Ubuntu makes me want to defenestrate |
13:12 |
tim_flatus |
lol |
13:14 |
* CWz |
uses ubuntu server for his server |
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YvesLevier |
Since im no longer client PLUS server. I dont have access to "/" command prompt in my client chat. How to directly send "/" commands to server. Ex.: change time, etc. |
14:40 |
YvesLevier |
plz? |
14:40 |
YvesLevier |
in command line line of my server, i mean |
14:41 |
est31 |
that doesnt work yet |
14:41 |
est31 |
you can set it up with irc |
14:41 |
est31 |
but thats a bit complicated |
14:42 |
YvesLevier |
So then : i log my client with priviledges to change then logout my client afterthen? |
14:43 |
est31 |
yes |
14:43 |
YvesLevier |
thx :) |
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YvesLevier |
est31: endgoal is i start my server without gui. |
14:45 |
YvesLevier |
...for better server performance. |
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YvesLevier |
your clue about IRC does work in that way? |
14:46 |
YvesLevier |
I mean a server without graphics interface and can even control. |
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YvesLevier |
Is startx then get out after a command a right way? |
14:47 |
YvesLevier |
see? |
14:48 |
YvesLevier |
i mean startx only for commands to server then quit GUI |
14:48 |
YvesLevier |
am i lost again? |
14:49 |
YvesLevier |
Or if your "kinda complicated" solution is the right way? |
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YvesLevier |
Controlling the server without graphic interface. My material is abit old... |
14:52 |
ElectronLibre |
The only way I see to control the server is to connect with GUI as the admin, or to shut the server down and change configuration files. |
14:52 |
YvesLevier |
Salut Électron :) |
14:52 |
YvesLevier |
I see. |
14:53 |
YvesLevier |
In other words, i can shutdown server. Use "gedit" using command line (if possible) then restart server. Is that what you mean? |
14:54 |
xenkey |
use nano |
14:54 |
ElectronLibre |
gedit requires the X server to work, if you only have CLI you can use nano/vi/vim. |
14:54 |
YvesLevier |
"nano"? |
14:55 |
ElectronLibre |
One of the most basic CLI file editor. |
14:55 |
YvesLevier |
ElectronLibre: i feared that |
14:55 |
ElectronLibre |
But if you only need to edit a file it's enough. |
14:55 |
ElectronLibre |
nano <filename> |
14:55 |
ElectronLibre |
Then save, restart. |
14:56 |
YvesLevier |
i see. Clearly. :) |
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YvesLevier |
ElectronLibre: may i can use my privileged client (wich was client/server at installation) on another machine in order to make commands so then the server can kept my clients well served? |
15:04 |
YvesLevier |
im never sure im speaking english or kind of... |
15:05 |
ElectronLibre |
Anyway, I can't understand it, don't bother, speak french on #minetest-fr. |
15:05 |
YvesLevier |
i mean without closer the server |
15:05 |
YvesLevier |
thx |
15:06 |
xenkey |
lol |
15:06 |
ElectronLibre |
xenkey, I can understand when someone speaks french bad, but english isn't my mother tongue ^^ |
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xenkey |
Yeah |
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kaezaa |
Greetings |
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jin_xi |
hey kaezaa |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello VanessaE. |
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est31 |
hi |
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VanessaE |
wonder if that was the real kaeza? |
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ElectronLibre |
I don't think so. |
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VanessaE |
my logs show him having signed on once from that same IP back in march, also |
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VanessaE |
but usually he has a freenode cloak userhost |
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ElectronLibre |
Hmm, have you got his mask? |
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VanessaE |
nope. |
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VanessaE |
not his real userhost, no |
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ElectronLibre |
I had an idea, but I hope it's not her again. |
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VanessaE |
his cloak normally reads ~kaezaunaffiliated/kaeza |
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ElectronLibre |
No, I mean the mask of this kaeza, not the usual one. |
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nrzkt |
hi VanessaE |
16:39 |
VanessaE |
oh that last kaeza's userhost was ~androirc170.51.65.168 |
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VanessaE |
hey nrz. |
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ElectronLibre |
Ok, then I don't know. |
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Octupuslegs |
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exio4 |
long time no see |
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Octupuslegs |
its been too long |
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MinetestBot |
[git] obbneqgmail.com -> minetest/minetest: fix infinite spawners 0c792db http://git.io/vvbGY (2015-04-18T20:14:34+02:00) |
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xenkey |
hi |
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luizrpgluiz |
hui |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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xenkey |
hui luizrpgluiz |
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Etzos |
xenkey: ping! We seem to keep missing each other. |
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xenkey |
Etzos: Hi there |
21:24 |
xenkey |
I never see you online -.- |
21:26 |
Etzos |
Like I said, we seem to miss each other. Although I'll admit I haven't been around much. |
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xenkey |
I'm around from about 9 till 11 BST |
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luizrpgluiz |
here in Brazil is 18:35 |
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Etzos |
I'd like to say when I'll be around, but recently I have no idea. |
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AndroidKris |
phantombeta, check your internet connection |