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Pilcrow |
yay, I changed my github profile pic to the same sleepy blue cat I use in the forums! :D |
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hmmmm |
I take back what I said about KDevelop |
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hmmmm |
it's crap |
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Pilcrow |
^ what did you say about it before, hmmmm? :P |
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[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix set_bits 699e066 http://git.io/j5M6 (2015-03-31T23:30:44-04:00) |
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[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: ObjDefManager, Mapgen SAPI: Huge refactoring 337e79c http://git.io/j5Mi (2015-03-31T23:27:58-04:00) |
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[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix usage of destroyed mutex b4247df http://git.io/j594 (2015-03-31T23:50:38-04:00) |
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[git] Warr1024 -> minetest/minetest: Clean scaling pre-filter for formspec/HUD. 6d61375 http://git.io/j5QV (2015-04-01T00:01:05-04:00) |
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[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix some minor details from 6d61375 ddf96c7 http://git.io/j57j (2015-04-01T00:19:10-04:00) |
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Pilcrow |
cool. Warr1024's smooth-scaling option got merged. I've been using it and love it, so that's an awesome commit~ :) |
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Calinou |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716837/ |
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Calinou |
how do I choose which screen to resume? screen -r minetest doesn't work, screen -R minetest creates yet another screen, screen -d minetest doesn't work either |
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Calinou |
mentioning PID doesn't work either |
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Calinou |
oh, screen -d -r 10935 does it |
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Calinou |
how do I remove a screen session entirely from the list (screen -ls)? |
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exio4 |
Calinou: exit everything in that screen? |
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Calinou |
thanks |
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exio4 |
Calinou: another "neat" param to screen is -D (other being -x), -D is "force detach other side", it basically kills (also) the parent where the currently attached plus detaching |
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exio4 |
-x is multihead, connecting to the same screen from more than one place |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Fun Day! :-D |
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Calinou |
http://www.godotengine.org/wp/godot-is-now-really-free/ |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: "Type "screen [-d] -r [pid.]tty.host" to resume one of them" |
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WSDguy2014 |
Hello guys, watch this april fool video and remember. Turn Volume Up for Best Experiment. Copy and paste link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzrnpkNpiyY&feature=youtu.be&t=3m40s |
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Calinou |
no. |
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WSDguy2014 |
or click on link |
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WSDguy2014 |
ok, but why? |
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Calinou |
we have enough april fools :P |
| 09:30 |
WSDguy2014 |
today its april fools day |
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Megaf_ |
Calinou: you will love tmux |
| 09:31 |
Megaf_ |
is like screen, but with windows inside |
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Megaf_ |
Start session: tmux |
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Calinou |
my favorite quote on tmux: “suddenly: permissively licensed†|
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Megaf_ |
then, git ctrl + " |
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Calinou |
jokes aside, I don't need it |
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Megaf_ |
ok |
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WSDguy2014 |
if you laging, press Alt+F4 |
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Calinou |
screen is enough |
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Megaf_ |
by the way, I might have found an interesting an odd and bad bug on 0.12, #Minetest-Dev |
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Calinou |
!server Calinou |
| 09:32 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 0/32, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms |
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Megaf_ |
or theres something with my OS |
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WSDguy2014 |
im going to... Jordach's Server |
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Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
| 09:34 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
| 09:35 |
WSDguy2014 |
in Jordach's Server there no players are |
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nrzkt |
!server nrz |
| 09:42 |
MinetestBot |
nrzkt: No results |
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nrzkt |
comment il les trouve ? :p |
| 09:42 |
nrzkt |
oops, how can the bot find the server ? :) |
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Megaf_ |
!server nrz |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf_: No results |
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nrzkt |
!server Endless |
| 09:43 |
MinetestBot |
nrzkt: Endless Story Survival | e-story.wtf | Clients: 0/100, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms |
| 09:43 |
nrzkt |
there :D |
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Calinou |
wtf ftw |
| 09:44 |
nrzkt |
yeah :p |
| 09:44 |
nrzkt |
https://e-story.wtf :p |
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Megaf_ |
Oo |
| 09:44 |
Megaf_ |
how do we get a wtf? |
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nrzkt |
i buy it with gandi.net |
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Calinou |
gandi.net :D |
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nrzkt |
39$ per year |
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Calinou |
what is the command to perform reverse DNS? |
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nrzkt |
dig -x <ip> |
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Megaf_ |
does it have private whois? |
| 09:45 |
nrzkt |
all you need |
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Megaf_ |
35 USD a wtf at name.com |
| 09:45 |
nrzkt |
39€ not $, sorry :p we have some taxes |
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nrzkt |
29,49€ now |
| 09:46 |
nrzkt |
at the release of .wtf is was more expensive :p |
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Calinou |
paying a lot for silly domains is silly |
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nrzkt |
right, but this is a good name :p |
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Megaf_ |
I'm happy with my .coms |
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nrzkt |
i also like .fr for my personal things, but for playing games .wtf is great :p |
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sfan5 |
!title |
| 09:54 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Endless Story - Ysondre |
| 09:58 |
xenkey |
!server Zenith |
| 09:58 |
MinetestBot |
xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 9/32, 8/10 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 15ms |
| 09:58 |
xenkey |
Woot its not segfaulted |
| 09:59 |
Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
| 09:59 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
| 09:59 |
xenkey |
Players > ping |
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xenkey |
:) |
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exio4 |
I am gonna make my own server ... |
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exio4 |
... with blackjack and hookers! |
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Megaf_ |
xenkey: my ping used to be 2ms |
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Megaf_ |
or even 1ms sometimes |
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Megaf_ |
I dont know what happened |
| 10:02 |
xenkey |
(Shrug) |
| 10:02 |
xenkey |
Looks like players haven't changed |
| 10:03 |
Megaf_ |
xenkey: players prefer messy servers with no rules and stupid people |
| 10:03 |
xenkey |
Lol |
| 10:04 |
Megaf_ |
it's quite "hard" to play on my server, long load media time, you must type a password and you dont have interact by default |
| 10:04 |
Megaf_ |
that keeps 95% of players away |
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xenkey |
Hm |
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Megaf_ |
and I don't care, I have some top level people palying there and some of them have become my friends |
| 10:05 |
Megaf_ |
most people there are 35+ years old |
| 10:05 |
xenkey |
Wow |
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sfan5 |
!server ping:most |
| 10:05 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Mundo en Español | arg-team.ddns.net | Clients: 0/10, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest | Ping: 263ms |
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sfan5 |
thats quite some ping |
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Megaf_ |
we have and Electronics Engineer, an Aircract Mechanical Engineer, a person who takes care of elders and other very nice people |
| 10:06 |
Megaf_ |
so yeah, fuck the large number of players |
| 10:06 |
xenkey |
Lol |
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Calinou |
my server has mostly people who talk languages other than English :s |
| 10:06 |
xenkey |
Well played |
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Calinou |
despite there being a rule to talk English in chat |
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Calinou |
(I revoked shout to someone due to that) |
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xenkey |
Same :( |
| 10:07 |
Megaf_ |
and on my server you are free to speak any language you want |
| 10:07 |
xenkey |
!server ping:least |
| 10:07 |
MinetestBot |
xenkey: RND | server.neoascetic.me | Clients: 0/15, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 0ms |
| 10:07 |
xenkey |
Quite a ping |
| 10:07 |
Calinou |
!server ping:most |
| 10:07 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: Kleine Minenwelt | 80.128.166.130 | Clients: 1/12, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 361ms |
| 10:08 |
Calinou |
australia for the win |
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xenkey |
Damn |
| 10:09 |
Calinou |
http://149.91.81.111/map.png |
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Calinou |
server map |
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Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
| 10:09 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
| 10:10 |
Megaf_ |
ping increases by 2ms when compiling stuff |
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sfan5 |
https://com.google/ |
| 10:10 |
Calinou |
made it transparent, added origin and scale |
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Megaf_ |
sfan5: lol |
| 10:11 |
Megaf_ |
well played google |
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OldCoder |
I might pay somebody to edit a cow |
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sfan5 |
google.172800INNSns-tld1.charlestonroadregistry.com. |
| 10:12 |
OldCoder |
I need a space helmet added in Blender to the kpgmobs cow models |
| 10:12 |
sfan5 |
charlestonroadregistry.com goes to http://www.google.com/registry/ |
| 10:12 |
sfan5 |
TIL google is a domain registrar |
| 10:12 |
OldCoder |
I am adding cows today to Moontest to make MOOntest |
| 10:12 |
Calinou |
this is recent |
| 10:12 |
OldCoder |
It being April Fools Day. But the cows could stay if they had helmets. |
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Megaf_ |
lol OldCoder |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
!server Calinou |
| 10:13 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 0/32, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms |
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OldCoder |
Their hide actually goes nicely with moondust |
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OldCoder |
They fit right in |
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OldCoder |
MOOoooon |
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Megaf_ |
Calinou: we need a map thing that uses the actual textures from nodes to make the map |
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Megaf_ |
Calinou: it would be cool a mapping tool that actually joined the server, with infinite view and stayed very high |
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Megaf_ |
or something like that |
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sfan5 |
google own com.google until next year mar32 |
| 10:17 |
sfan5 |
google own com.google until next year mar31 |
| 10:17 |
sfan5 |
owns* |
| 10:17 |
Megaf_ |
nobody can buy a .google |
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sfan5 |
I'm aware |
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xenkey |
Lol |
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Calinou |
Megaf_, it would spam the logs and waste resources and a slot :P |
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Megaf_ |
minetest mt:~/worlds/world$ du -hs players/ |
| 10:41 |
Megaf_ |
66Mplayers/ |
| 10:41 |
Megaf_ |
66 MB of player files |
| 10:44 |
Megaf_ |
well, we need a better mapper, I have some exotic mods on my server and the mapper cant see most of all mods |
| 10:44 |
Megaf_ |
and using only a color for every item is not good nough either |
| 10:44 |
Megaf_ |
enough* |
| 10:45 |
* Megaf_ |
is deeply frustraded now |
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sfan5 |
Megaf_: you can generate a colors.txt with the mod you have installed |
| 10:46 |
Megaf_ |
I wrote a beautiful script to update my server, several lines |
| 10:46 |
Megaf_ |
full of variables and stuff |
| 10:46 |
Megaf_ |
it was perfect |
| 10:46 |
Megaf_ |
then I ran out of space and I lost the script |
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Megaf_ |
its blank now |
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Megaf_ |
rewriting |
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Megaf_ |
Hi Zeno` |
| 11:12 |
Zeno` |
howdy |
| 11:13 |
Zeno` |
what's new? |
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Megaf_ |
Zeno`: not much, I had some troubles before figuring out, with the help of Calinou that the default is not BUILD_SERVER=1 |
| 11:50 |
Megaf_ |
and I'm writing a script to make a fast and minimal server setup straight from github |
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Megaf_ |
instead of just updating my server with git pull I will always do a fresh git clone |
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Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
| 11:52 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
| 11:52 |
Megaf_ |
this server is built using my script |
| 11:53 |
Megaf_ |
minetestmt:~$ ls BinMegafServer/ |
| 11:53 |
Megaf_ |
bin builtin debug.txt games minetest.conf mods worlds |
| 11:53 |
Megaf_ |
games, minetest.conf, mods and worlds are symbolic links |
| 11:54 |
Megaf_ |
bin and builtin are the only two real directories on the server dir |
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PicklesRGood |
Hi. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: NetworkPacket: reading outside packet is now clearer. 113bdd3 http://git.io/jbUB (2015-04-01T14:47:46+02:00) |
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[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Move globals from main.cpp to more sane locations 9527984 http://git.io/jbqo (2015-04-01T23:04:25+10:00) |
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Zeno` |
Megaf_, can I have privs please? |
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Megaf_ |
Yep, hold on |
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* Megaf_ |
gives privs to Zeno` |
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Zeno` |
hehe |
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Zeno` |
ok, it's connecting... will take ages |
| 13:28 |
Zeno` |
brb... it'll take 10 minutes to connect anyway :) |
| 13:28 |
Zeno` |
(not because of your server of course... because of the way I am running the client) |
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meldrianAAO |
ahoi |
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Calinou |
!server Calinou |
| 14:19 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 4/32, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms |
| 14:19 |
Calinou |
wee! it didn't crash |
| 14:20 |
xenkey |
!server xenkey |
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MinetestBot |
xenkey: No results |
| 14:20 |
xenkey |
!server Zenith |
| 14:20 |
MinetestBot |
xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 21/32, 11/21 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 17ms |
| 14:20 |
xenkey |
It no know me |
| 14:20 |
xenkey |
lol jesus christ |
| 14:20 |
xenkey |
Did someone update the android version or something? |
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YvesLevier |
Hey - im in fool hurry - no time to search - plz how make bone powder for vegetation? :) |
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xenkey |
google.com |
| 14:20 |
xenkey |
or rather |
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xenkey |
com.google |
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YvesLevier |
Calinou: svp ^ |
| 14:21 |
Calinou |
no idea, sorry |
| 14:21 |
YvesLevier |
How it is named? |
| 14:22 |
YvesLevier |
maybe im thinking too much minecraft |
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Calinou |
bone meal? |
| 14:22 |
YvesLevier |
yes |
| 14:22 |
YvesLevier |
i want to change grass to vegetation |
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ElectronLibre |
Is that even possible with the mods/game you have? Check before. |
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ElectronLibre |
Because it may be something possible with a mod, but I've never heard anything about vegetation and Minetest Game. |
| 14:24 |
YvesLevier |
ElectronLibre: Tex=VanE |
| 14:24 |
YvesLevier |
mods? |
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ElectronLibre |
Oh, you're using DreamBuilder? Check the list of mods with /mods and see if there is any mod related to vegetation so you could start looking in it. |
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YvesLevier |
You mean this mod: [mod] plant aging library [0.1b] [plantaging] ? |
| 14:26 |
ElectronLibre |
Maybe I don't have the list of mods you're using. |
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ElectronLibre |
Have you got any craft guide mod installed? |
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YvesLevier |
I think so. But VanE... brb |
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YvesLevier |
Does not exist yet as far i can see - will make it manualy |
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YvesLevier |
plz ping me if have a faster solution. Thx :) |
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ElectronLibre |
Ok.. Are you sure you have vegetation, are there any on the map? |
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YvesLevier |
Grass |
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YvesLevier |
mainly |
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ElectronLibre |
A part from looking into the mods' sources I don't see anything.. |
| 14:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh. You want to recreate grass. |
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ElectronLibre |
By default it's not possible, but I don't know if it's possible with your game ask VanessaE. |
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YvesLevier |
flat grass dont correspond to what im working on |
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YvesLevier |
Thx (merci) :) |
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Calinou |
!server Calinou |
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MinetestBot |
Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 4/32, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms |
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gamemanj |
...Does anyone like ComputerCraft-style mods? |
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gamemanj |
(And does anyone know of any for Minetest?) |
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nrzkt |
Megaf_ what is your OS ? |
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xenkey |
gamemanj: Yeah |
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xenkey |
Mesecons Luacontrollers |
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xenkey |
And something in Fourth |
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xenkey |
The name novatux comes to mind but I cannot recall what the name of the mod was |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
Xenkey: Luacontrollers don't use a interactive prompt. As for the Forth system, it looks quite nice. |
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xenkey |
Is an interactive prompt what you're after? |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
Xenkey: Yes. |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
As much as I like realistic computers, though, I've noticed from Minecraft communities that people prefer Lua prompts. |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
(over Forth prompts or etc.) |
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Jordach_ |
gamemanj_at_gith, there's one in worldedit |
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Jordach_ |
(through worldedit gui) |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
Wouldn't that be unsandboxed? |
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Jordach_ |
no idea |
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Calinou |
it's for admins only |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
...So it would be kind of against the point. (Note: gamemanj==gamemanj_at_gith) |
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gamemanj_at_gith |
What I'm talking about is a player-accessible, heavily sandboxed lua prompt. |
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gamemanj |
...I'm guessing none exists? |
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xenkey |
Probably not |
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WSDguy2014 |
Hello guys, Can Download Default Texture Pack? Im making a Troll Texture Pack |
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gamemanj |
Look in the subgame you're making a texture pack for. |
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Calinou |
it's in games/minetest_game/mods/default |
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ozwald_ |
Hi! |
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gamemanj |
Hello. |
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Megaf_ |
Hey |
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gamemanj |
...This is going to become a neverending cascade, isn't it? Hello. |
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gamemanj |
(people saying hello causing people to say hello causing people to say hello causing...etc) |
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Megaf_ |
well, no longer, you broke the cycle |
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VanessaE |
hello |
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VanessaE |
;) |
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VanessaE |
perfect time for me to wander in |
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Megaf_ |
Yes it is :) |
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someguy_irc |
. |
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someguy_irc |
Nvm. |
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* gamemanj |
is confused. |
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Sokomine |
problem: when i click on the singleplayer tab, mt crashes. latest version |
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Sokomine |
no information available as to why. if i change my minetest.conf to let main_menu_tab = singleplayer, it crashes right after start. version is latest git |
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gamemanj |
Does debug.txt have anything? |
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Sokomine |
even debug_level 4 doesn't help much |
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Krock |
Lovely, my 1st april joke works: http://nimg.pf-control.de/ (refresh if it looks correct) |
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gamemanj |
ftw, tahw si gniog no??? |
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Krock |
Wonk T'nod I. |
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gamemanj |
at this rate, my head will snap off. |
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Krock |
disappearing texts would be lovely aswell but some users have javascript disabled :( |
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Jordach_ |
Krock, noice css |
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* gamemanj |
loses his head, because it snapped off from looking at up-side-down text |
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gamemanj |
Also, you might be able to (ab)use css transitions for disappearing text |
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Hijiri |
I've played a bit of minetest, but I haven't tried writing any mods |
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Hijiri |
Does minetest community have arguments over licenses? |
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Hijiri |
that mods use |
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Calinou |
Hijiri, what do you mean exactly? |
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Hijiri |
like, would people avoid GPL mods or something |
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gamemanj |
Mods on minetest are closer to plugins than mods. |
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Hijiri |
or AGPL or whatever |
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Calinou |
there's no reason to |
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Hijiri |
ok |
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Calinou |
it is suggested you make your mod compatible with LGPLv2.1+ |
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Calinou |
for inclusion into Minetest |
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Calinou |
but not mandatory |
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Hijiri |
alright |
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gamemanj |
Minetest mods don't actually involve modification, despite the name. |
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Calinou |
so, LGPLv3+ and GPLv2+/GPLv3+ are not compatible |
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Calinou |
as for media (textures/models/sounds), use CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Calinou |
or CC0 1.0 (public domain dedication) |
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Calinou |
gamemanj, we could call them add-ons or modules |
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Hijiri |
What kind of mods are more likely to get included? |
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Calinou |
mods can also mean modules |
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Calinou |
in Linux, it means modules, not modifications |
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Calinou |
Hijiri, mods that follow the KISS principle and are useful to most users |
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michou |
WTFPL is a nice license too :> |
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Hijiri |
So things that would make sense to have in the "default" game? |
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Hijiri |
for the "useful to most users" part |
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Calinou |
michou, it's not recommended because it lacks warranty disclaimer, and contains strong language |
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Calinou |
CC0 is way better in that regard that is real public domain dedication, and when not possible, has a license fallback |
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Calinou |
that's why CC0 is called a waiver, more than a license |
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Calinou |
Hijiri, yes |
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Calinou |
definitely |
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gamemanj |
Calinou: I actually managed to completely mess up a mod release thanks to using WTFPL. |
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Hijiri |
ok, thanks for the help |
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gamemanj |
Made the mistake of telling a family member...who got really scared about the informal language... |
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gamemanj |
And insisted I change license to Apache. |
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Sokomine |
servers and players usually select the mods they like. i consider minetest_game to be just the common base which you extend with your prefered mods |
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Calinou |
Apache isn't compatible with LGPLv2.1+, so it's not recommended for Minetest mods |
| 18:11 |
gamemanj |
Post-release. Yeah, it didn't end well. |
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gamemanj |
Suffice to say, I generally consider the whole thing a mess. |
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Krock |
Somehow I like BSD 3-Clause for its simplyness |
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Sokomine |
if you're the original author, you can release what you wrote under whatever liscence you feel up to...even under diffrent liscences |
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gamemanj |
...Considering the mod wasn't that popular, there'd be no point re-releasing anyway. |
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Calinou |
Krock, MIT is preferable because there's no confusion about number of clauses :P |
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Calinou |
keep trying :P |
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Sokomine |
hard to tell if it was popular or not. there will most likely be people out there who'll like it (provided they even know about it) |
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gamemanj |
...Well, it was a mod which added programmable robots. They didn't work on Lua or anything, |
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gamemanj |
I considered Lua to be too hard for people not into programming. |
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Calinou |
any language will be |
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Sokomine |
hmm. but why won't my mt start up correctly anymore? this is really odd... |
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Calinou |
Lua is one of the easiest “real†languages |
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michou |
what about logic bricks *I'm already out* |
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gamemanj |
Let me grab a screenshot of the programming interface... |
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Sokomine |
gamemanj: there was some talk about robots. i'm pretty sure there *will* be people who like them |
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gamemanj |
Ah, this will work. |
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gamemanj |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/do_not_delete_screenshot_for_mt_forums.png |
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Sokomine |
afaik someone asked about how to program a robot on this particular chat some time ago... |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/mashlol/mintr |
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Calinou |
cool, might run this on my server |
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Krock2 |
c'mon, time out! |
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Calinou |
http://mt.nerdpol.ovh:3000/ |
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Krock2 |
+0 ? |
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gamemanj |
Did you really get that running that quickly,Calinou? |
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Calinou |
yes |
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Calinou |
My Little Node: npm is Magic |
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gamemanj |
Yes. Yes, it is. |
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gamemanj |
Who likes sandboxing Lua? |
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jin_xi |
i prefer mud wrestling |
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Krock |
gamemanj, when is a box a sandbox? |
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gamemanj |
...when it's filled with sand...? |
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* gamemanj |
is confused for the second time today. |
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Kcork |
gamemanj, why are you Desufnoc? |
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Calinou |
!server Calinou |
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Kcork |
MTB is not here |
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* gamemanj |
is now even more confused. |
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Kcork |
Sometimes I tsuj flip a drow backwards |
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Kcork |
kinda ynnuf to daer |
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gamemanj |
I am confused about the question "when is a box a sandbox?" |
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Kcork |
The idea is gnitseretni but I'm not sure if it's required |
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gamemanj |
...Is that referring to sandboxes or my confusion? |
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gamemanj |
Or boxes in general? |
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Hijiri |
what about boxing? |
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Kcork |
gamemanj, yes, refered to boxes, filled with samd |
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Kcork |
*sand |
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gamemanj |
Error: attempted to index nil. stack traceback: ../mods/ircbot/concepts.lua |
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gamemanj |
Please contact a administrator. |
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gamemanj |
(Of me. meaning me.) |
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gamemanj |
(Hang on, but that's supposedly failed...Great, I've confused myself while reporting that I'm confused) |
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Kcork |
(How about giving us the source code to help you finding the problem?) |
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gamemanj |
Concepts.lua contains one line: "(nil):cause_a_indexing_error()" |
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gamemanj |
(Note: The above lua error is a joke.) |
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gamemanj |
(And thus any source reported for it is also a joke.) |
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Kcork |
Almost thought it would be something like a "throw new Exception()" |
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gamemanj |
That would just be a syntax error. |
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gamemanj |
Did you mean error("attempted to index nil")? |
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Kcork |
Doesn't matter. I spoke in C# |
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Sokomine |
hmm. i've renamed the games folder. maybe there's something wrong with my local games...although why that ought to lead to a crash of the game seems mysterious |
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xenkey |
My players didn't quite understand the joke when I said I was shutting down the server. |
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gamemanj |
Well, it's just a *little* bit late for that...(here it's 9:37 PM) |
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xenkey |
here too :^) |
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gamemanj |
...I have a mod that you might want to test. No textures, yet. Node descriptions are "Computer" and "Digiline Memory". |
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gamemanj |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/luacomputing.zip |
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gamemanj |
Best used with Digilines, else you can't have a program execute on startup since there's nothing to boot from. |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
Hi, I'm trying to install the animals modpack for my kids. If this is a modpack, does that mean that all of these directories need to be direectly in the mods dir? |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
rather than in an animals_modpack dir in mods? |
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gamemanj |
Nope, just drop in the animals_modpack folder. |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
ok |
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* ACSpike[Laptop] |
tries |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
argh, my version of minetest isn't new enough for animals I guess. |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
is it hard to build? |
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sfan5 |
ACSpike[Laptop]: nope, it isn't hard to compile minetest |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
hmm, i thought I found a ppa, but it doesn't seem to work. maybe difference between Ubuntu 14.04.1 and 14.04.2? |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
nevermind. forgot to update |
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blackpenguin |
hi. trying to setup a server, but for some reasons tnt doesn't appear - it's neither craftable nor does it appear in menu in creative mode. Am I missing something? |
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jin_xi |
tnt is disabled in multiplayer unless you add some config option |
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jin_xi |
setting is called enable_tnt |
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jin_xi |
alternatively edit tnt mod |
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blackpenguin |
thanks, jin_xi |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Treegen: Add pine tree. Force place trunks 74eb14c http://git.io/jpkb (2015-04-01T22:54:49+01:00) |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
now that I installed a new minetest from ppa the moreores mod installed via the default repos doesn't seem to be seen |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
is there a way I can configure minetest to also look in the directories that the default repo minetest uses? |
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WarrTab |
We should stop using the WTFPL, as it's too restrictive. |
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xenkey |
I agree |
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WarrTab |
WTFPL only allows you to do what you want with the software. |
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WarrTab |
There's no explicit permission to do things you might need to do, but now want to. |
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xennex |
Sorry april fools ended ages ago |
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WarrTab |
Not foolin' |
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WarrTab |
A lot of projects require licenses that grant certain specific permissions; WTFPL falls short in many cases. |
