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00:18	Sokomine	twoelk: arn't you carrying a handy set of dungeon masters with you all dday?
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00:19	iqualfragile_	shadowzone rekt?
00:20	Sokomine	thefamilygrog66: hmm. you might also just take the inventory and show it manually then. i sometimes use just the inventory images + the size of the itemstack as a label. perhaps that'll be easier. i originally thought that that player:name construct might work
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00:35	thefamilygrog66	Sokomine and est31: this seems to work, though it's all text (i.e. no formspecs)
00:35	thefamilygrog66	http://pastie.org/9945650
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01:02	Sokomine	thefamilygrog66: you can still show it in a similar way as an inventory...
01:04	thefamilygrog66	Sokomine: I'm sure it's possible, but this works (and also takes into account the crafting area). What would I need to do to show it like an inventory
01:04	thefamilygrog66	?
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01:44	Lugal	can anyone explain me that? o.O
01:44	Lugal	http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_2244005608-lIxxCvuJ.1423878246.png
01:54	FreeFull	Giant sand golem?
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05:20	MinetestBot	[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix crash on passing false as value in table to table.copy(t) 7c5accf http://git.io/Nwce (2015-02-14T15:18:11+10:00)
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08:24	MinetestBot	[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #222 from MT-Modder/stoppers-2 b7076e6 http://git.io/NwKg (2015-02-14T09:22:56+01:00)
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10:31	Krock	yummy, lasagne!
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11:54	catninja	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9v64sCCEAEIAKQ.jpg
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11:57	Xeprione	hello
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11:57	catninja	Xeprione: hello, have a nice valentine
11:57	Xeprione	you too
11:57	Xeprione	:3
11:58	catninja	yep! gonna have a party and eat chocolate
11:58	Xeprione	nice
11:58	Xeprione	i'm allergic to chocolate
11:58	Xeprione	so i wouldn't know
11:58	catninja	ow. poor you .___.
11:59	Xeprione	not rlly tho :D
11:59	Xeprione	i made le choke
11:59	Xeprione	:D
11:59	catninja	but you can still have some alcohol!
11:59	Xeprione	i can eat chocolate
12:00	Xeprione	i'm not allergic
12:00	Xeprione	but i am under aged...
12:00	Xeprione	so i can't have alcohol
12:00	Xeprione	<=C
12:00	catninja	weeelll.
12:00	catninja	then ur not invited to the party
12:01	catninja	all my friends are old
12:01	Xeprione	like 69 old?
12:01	catninja	haha no, but 25-30yrs old
12:01	Xeprione	that ain't old
12:01	Xeprione	and i'm not that underaged
12:01	Xeprione	i'm getting 16 in a few weeks
12:01	Xeprione	w00t
12:02	Xeprione	and also, i'm making a 2D multiplayer RPG game
12:02	Xeprione	:P
12:02	catninja	single guys all of them xD so I'm having a party so they will not be lonley
12:02	catninja	oh!
12:02	catninja	pics?
12:02	Xeprione	not yet, working on the engine right now
12:03	Xeprione	got collision detection working for me, right now i'm busting my head with TCP multiplayer support, controllers afterwards etc
12:03	catninja	aha, I'm more of a texture making person
12:03	Xeprione	orly?
12:04	Xeprione	wanna help me?
12:04	Xeprione	we'll make this game a reality faster and also better
12:04	Xeprione	because i'm a beginner at pixel art
12:04	catninja	hmm the artsy person in me wants to help but I think I have a bit too much right now
12:04	Xeprione	yeah, ok... but the offer still stands
12:05	Xeprione	so if you get time, i can give you some stuff i would need, and we could think of a deal
12:05	catninja	Soo tempting ^^
12:06	Xeprione	great to hear that :P
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12:06	catninja	I really like games, like addictive like them :D
12:07	Xeprione	cool
12:07	catninja	I just finished nino ku ni, would reccomend
12:07	catninja	so fun
12:07	Xeprione	ok :P
12:07	catninja	finished on 70hours gametime
12:08	Xeprione	woah :D
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12:11	catninja	worth it xD
12:12	catninja	friend; "I want a gamer girlfriend" my bf; "I guess you are not that interested in sex.."
12:13	Xeprione	wait, you're a girl?
12:14	Xeprione	i did not know that... but because you're a gamer girl, +1 to you
12:14	Xeprione	:D
12:14	Zeno`	love is in the air
12:14	Xeprione	not where i am
12:14	Xeprione	my room is my man-cave
12:14	ElectronLibre	catninja: I wonder if it's more realistic, or more stereotypical.
12:15	catninja	hahaha I always forget the lack of ladies on this irc
12:15	Xeprione	and because i've been rejected one too many times, i'm just giving up for a few months, maybe years
12:15	CWz	Can the Zeno` join inchra?
12:15	Xeprione	until love finds me
12:15	catninja	ElectronLibre: huh? Everyone that have found a nice game knows how hard it is to stop playing
12:15	ElectronLibre	Zeno`, you mean that commercial Valentines' day?
12:16	Xeprione	btw, cat, did you know that Anna from Basshunter's Boten Anna was a girl, that was thought of as the "cure" for spammers...
12:16	Xeprione	but when Basshunter found out she was a real girl, he said "To me, you will always be the cure"
12:16	Zeno`	ElectronLibre, never heard of Valentine's Day
12:16	catninja	Xeprione: o.O
12:16	* ElectronLibre	looks, maybe he transalted wrong.
12:16	catninja	basshunter is a swedish band right?
12:17	ElectronLibre	catninja: Personnaly, it's not that I cannot stop playing videogames, I only play Minetest.. It's more that I cannot guess when it's time to stop coding.
12:17	Xeprione	a swedish DJ/Techno music artist
12:18	catninja	still did not know ^^
12:18	Xeprione	the more you know
12:19	catninja	ElectronLibre: I feel yah
12:19	ElectronLibre	And as a result of that, I spend my entire free time programming...
12:20	Xeprione	me too
12:20	Xeprione	what you programming?
12:20	Xeprione	and what language
12:21	Xeprione	i use Java, LibGDX (framework) and making my own game engine (EnGDX, because no creativity found in me... :D )
12:21	Xeprione	and after that, i'll be making the game
12:23	ElectronLibre	Xeprione, when I'm not maintening a minetest server or its mods, I do amateur programming. I'm actually working on a file seeker program in text mod, programmed in C.
12:23	Xeprione	nice
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12:25	ElectronLibre	I called it MÂµcro as a joke made when I wrote the first lines, I was always typing 'Âµ' instead of '*' in multi-line comments, and I found the name cool because it's a tiny program.
12:25	ElectronLibre	Xeprione, do you have a link to somewhere I could see you engine's code please?
12:26	Xeprione	it isn't ready yet... but when i finish the engine, then yeah :P
12:26	ElectronLibre	Ok.
12:29	Xeprione	the game won't be open-source, and the engine might be, but i'm not completely sure of that yet
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13:37	Krock	http://i.imgur.com/WxAd7TQ.png
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15:44	Inocudom	Tell me, which planet in the solar system has the most powerful winds?
15:45	catninja	jupiter?
15:45	catninja	tell me; if you have a lot of frostling that you cant fit on the cake what should one make to put it on?
15:45	Inocudom	Neptune has the most powerful winds in the solar system, with Saturn (Satan) in second place.
15:47	Inocudom	And, which planet, in the form of a hurricane/squall line, is about to slam the Northeast like a sledgehammer on an egg?
15:47	catninja	but does not wind recuire air? and how does one calculate winds on a gas giant?
15:48	Inocudom	And bring the coldest temperatures seen in decades?
15:49	Inocudom	I will give you a hint; this planet is an ice giant and is the farthest from the sun. Its god also holds the trident/kabbalistic tree of life.
15:49	catninja	Inocudom: I'm hoping for a pun
15:50	Inocudom	Once again, Neptune.
15:51	Inocudom	Yes, indeed, the groundhound's shadow was as black as death.
15:51	ElectronLibre	(catninja: I'm trying to identify the purpose of this too)
15:51	catninja	and with all your knowledge you cannot tell me what to do with all the frosting?
15:52	ElectronLibre	catninja: Eat it.
15:52	catninja	like 300ml of chocolate frosting? NO
15:52	Inocudom	We in the Northeast are in need of prayers to the Heavenly Father to endure and survive this mighty hurricane.
15:52	ElectronLibre	Melt it, and bake another cake with it.
15:53	catninja	ElectronLibre: I have a second cake but I was thinking of having it bare. should I make cupcakes or something?
15:54	catninja	halp
15:54	Inocudom	Winter Storm/Hurricane Neptune. Here, see for yourself: http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/video/timing-for-weekend-snow-in-northeast-including-boston
15:54	catninja	too much for poor electron
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15:55	Inocudom	By the way, Boston is already an abyssmal winter hell that is being buried with snow (you know, the city where Fringe was based.)
15:55	ElectronLibre	What a wonderful internet connection I have.
15:56	ElectronLibre	catninja: So, why not makind a cake out molten chocolate frosting and a few other things?
15:56	ElectronLibre	s/makind/making
15:58	ElectronLibre	(*out of molten chocolate -_-)
15:58	Inocudom	Boston will make Siberia pround, but lower areas get a nasty beating too: http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/video/winter-storm-neptune-big-wind-threat-in-new-england
15:59	domtron	catninja, cut a cylinder out of the cake's center. Then you have a torus like shape and a cylinder that both need more icing because there is more surface area. :P
15:59	ElectronLibre	^ He is right.
15:59	Inocudom	ElectronLibre: If by mankind, you mean the gods and goddesses (ruling elite) of this world, then you are correct.
16:00	ElectronLibre	But what will you do with the cut part?
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16:00	ElectronLibre	Inocudom, actually I wrote 'makind' instead of "making" it was not a specific statement to you
16:01	ElectronLibre	But I've read what you said an planned to prepare an answer.
16:02	catninja	my kitchensupport tells me that it can be used on cupcakes
16:02	ElectronLibre	Yes, why not.
16:02	ElectronLibre	*"and planned" pff, am I tired or just lazy >_>
16:03	catninja	ElectronLibre: then I have to make cupcakes too
16:03	catninja	life is hard
16:03	ElectronLibre	Life is hard, and unfair, indeed.
16:04	catninja	yes. sometimes you have too much frosting and sometimes you have too much cake/cupcakes
16:04	domtron	freeze it for when you make another cake. Icing keeps for quite a while.
16:04	catninja	it is never right
16:05	catninja	and so the cirkle of cake begins
16:05	Inocudom	The gods and goddesses of this world hate, hate, hate commoners and want our populations controlled. Never forget that.
16:05	domtron	did... did you just say too much cake O.o
16:06	catninja	Inocudom: you makes no sense
16:06	catninja	I too like to make no sense apparently
16:06	catninja	with bad grammar
16:06	Inocudom	I'm speaking of the ruling elite of this world. They do not like us.
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16:10	catninja	oh but everyone likes me
16:13	Inocudom	You guys really should watch this sometime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc61K_u9n7w
16:14	Inocudom	Just wait till Lucifer himself comes into this world. Things will get infinitely worse then. All written in the Book Of Revelation, and we are in that time period.
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16:29	catninja	Inocudom: cool story bro
16:38	ekem	i knew guys in AK who were vietnam vets. you would see them once a year when they came into town for supplies. They dug holes for underground homes in the 70s after they got free land from the feds for being vets. They were 100% society would collapse somewhere in the 80s
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16:38	ekem	so they are like 70-80 living in underground homes, in the taiga, with a shit ton of rounds, probably with wet powder
16:39	ekem	and 0 healthcare
16:39	ekem	of course if the ruskies did drop dem bombs, they would have been pretty well off
16:39	catninja	I feel like this channel have gone out of controll
16:39	ekem	BACK ON TOPIC
16:40	ekem	as far as freenode policy, you can direct off topic discussion to ##minetest
16:40	catninja	this channel?
16:40	catninja	I'm just concerned people have gone batshit insane
16:41	ekem	nah, when you register a channel on freenode it makes a containment channel with ## for topics surrounding the main topic of the # channel
16:42	catninja	should not having a # in the channelname be problematic
16:42	catninja	?
16:42	ekem	its just another character, the irc server handles how to direct clients
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16:43	ekem	with big channels, often times logs are important so moderators try to keep offtopic discussion out of the main logs
16:43	catninja	some programs are really bitchy about such tings
16:43	ekem	i dont know if the ## is part of the original IRC RFC, it might be, but i feel its just freenodes implementation
16:43	catninja	I remember that I asked if minetest had an offtopic channel and was directed to this
16:44	ekem	a client shouldnt have any say over what messages are sent to the server really, but some newer ones sort of do
16:51	Zeno`	## is not part of the IRC RFC
16:51	ekem	ah there you go, just freenodes policy
16:52	twoelk	actually this channel is not offtopic but simply not strictly on topic
16:53	twoelk	go to #minetest-dev for getting a bashing for wandering offtopic
16:53	catninja	that sounds like a bad thing
16:54	* twoelk	is not sure how to parse that
16:55	Zeno`	stay on topic, twoelk!
16:55	catninja	having a channel that is not off topic but not on topic
16:55	* Zeno`	wonders what the current topic is anyway
16:56	ekem	http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules
16:56	twoelk	where is it ? tell me and I'll stay right on it or sit, I'll pin it down just point me to it
16:56	Zeno`	bugger the rules
16:56	Zeno`	I hate rules
16:57	ekem	yeah me too, i often send non existence commands to irc servers cause im hard like that
16:57	ekem	youre RFC dont tell me what to do son
16:57	ekem	-e
16:57	Zeno`	yeah... go get dem IRC servers
16:57	Zeno`	punch 'em in the tummy
16:59	* Zeno`	hold his pillow against his tummy
16:59	Zeno`	just in case
16:59	* twoelk	joins minetest-dev to hear what's holding up mt 0.4.12
17:00	Krock	twoelk, see minetest forums, 0.4.12-rc exists
17:00	Zeno`	twoelk, nothing is holding it up AFAIK. I recommended earlier tonight that it be released, "backported" fixes to the branch, and BlockMen has made an RC available
17:00	mazal	How do one get that rc on Ubuntu , only see Win versions there
17:00	twoelk	seen that hours ago
17:01	twoelk	or so it seems
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17:09	twoelk	mazal: you will probably have to compile from latest git yourself. You can use this for Ubuntu iirc: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
17:10	twoelk	oh, don't know if that works with the latest split into branches
17:11	* ElectronLibre	is quite impressed by the fact he can remember from which episode of the Simpsons' TV show Wayward_One's quote is from.
17:13	twoelk	I had rather thought of Fred Flinstone's friend - but I can't remember him ever getting drunk
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18:05	Calinou	hi
18:06	catninja	hello honey
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18:16	luizrpgluiz	personally, I am creating a block that goes digging, the use of it is manual,
18:17	luizrpgluiz	I'm getting happy for my Â´Â´teacherÂ´Â´
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18:18	SRSADTBLDR	On which IRC is "OldCoder"
18:19	Calinou	he is here right now, SRSADTBLDR
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18:20	OldCoder	Indeed
18:20	OldCoder	PM me
18:20	SRSADTBLDR	How.
18:21	OldCoder	Do this: /query OldCoder
18:21	OldCoder	If that does not work, tell us
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18:39	Krock	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&p=170188#p170188 Interesting for http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog authors?
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18:45	BlockMen	Krock, "New Network codes"<- no?
18:45	luizrpgluiz	hi
18:46	Krock	BlockMen, Ah no? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a704c04f
18:46	BlockMen	look here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/freeze-0.4.12
18:46	Krock	somehow I suddenly dislike the freeze branch
18:46	Krock	dunno why
18:47	BlockMen	lol
18:47	luizrpgluiz	github the minetest, has a changelog of the development of 0.4.12?
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18:53	Krock	> github the minetest
18:54	Krock	There's a page to see all commits
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19:05	Inocudom	ekem: Well, society is collapsing right now, isn't it? All according to the will of the gods.
19:06	Inocudom	Considering their power, I know no better term for them. The only protection you can have from them is Christ.
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19:10	Inocudom	Have you ever watched the following cartoon? http://youtu.be/bWzX8EHwvXU
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19:21	Inocudom	There is now a channel dedicated to Winter Storm Neptune: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzveURaKAoPEaVhhiol7MoA
19:24	Inocudom	Remember, that storm is named after this planet: http://youtu.be/7c0lm-Uw1JQ
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19:50	tim_flatus	Steep learning curve this being a server admin lark
19:50	tim_flatus	Three weeks in and I disabled interact for newbies
19:50	tim_flatus	:-/
19:55	CWz	welcome to the club
19:55	tim_flatus	:-)
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19:58	tim_flatus	And apologies to anyone I was grumpy at yesterday
19:59	CaveJohnson	hi Calinou
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20:15	Calinou	hi CaveJohnson
20:19	Inocudom	Yes, must servers do disable interact for newbies. When they reach out their hand and try to dig everything in sight, you know there's going to be trouble.
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20:19	est31	thats what protection is for
20:20	est31	but yes some servers do that and I understand them
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20:20	Inocudom	It's sad, you knwo. Many games allow for such great creative possibilities, but nobody wants to create anymore, they just want to kill and destroy. Even I find it very hard to create these days.
20:22	Inocudom	Now you know why custom player models are an extinct practice concerning open-source fps games (and most of the other ones too.)
20:23	Inocudom	All of the players just want to be invincible gods and only want to play where they can never, ever lose.
20:24	Inocudom	I saw this first-hand in Xonotic, where the lastman-retex map spawned numerous versions and quite literally became a religion.
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20:27	domtron_	Inocudom, if you want games where players don't mind loosing (much) play rougelikes. Permadeath has that effect on things. :P
20:27	Nitori	is there a style guid for writing lua mods?
20:38	tim_flatus	I think there is
20:38	tim_flatus	Is there any way of rolling back a DM attack?
20:39	est31	DM?
20:39	tim_flatus	tDungeon Master
20:39	est31	dont think so
20:39	tim_flatus	ok
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21:03	twoelk	Calinou, could you create me a dev-wiki account?
21:04	Calinou	twoelk, done, check your e-mail?
21:04	twoelk	thx, checking now
21:09	twoelk	ok worked - now lets sort some categories ;-P
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21:23	alket	whats the mod with bread which is near the hearts
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21:24	ElectronLibre	alket, hud.
21:24	alket	no, the bread which sits near hearts
21:24	alket	like when you dont have breads , you loose one heart
21:25	est31	yes
21:26	est31	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6342
21:27	ElectronLibre	^ Hud mod by BlockMen.
21:28	alket	thats it :)
21:29	ElectronLibre	Links make people trust you, interesting.
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22:36	tim_flatus	I just had a revelation which has made my life much easier:
22:36	tim_flatus	Most of my players are 7 and half of them don't speak English
22:37	ElectronLibre	Wonderful. The wonders of public servers.
22:37	tim_flatus	OK, I'm exaggerating slightly, but not much
22:38	tim_flatus	Digital babysitting B\|
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22:46	ekem	running a server is 24/7 conflict resolution
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22:52	tim_flatus	Tell me about it ekem!
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22:54	ekem	ok, where to start...
22:54	ekem	:)
22:54	tim_flatus	lol :D
22:54	ekem	in all seriousness, i used to try to make it part of the gameplay, like if you have town based protection and there is conflict
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22:54	ekem	instead of just banning or doing that sort of thing, i would pull each of the groups into mumble and have them elect a leader/spokesperson
22:55	tim_flatus	I am learning that basically it's my server and the more I kick players that I find annoying the happier the good players get ...
22:55	ekem	i never kicked anyone
22:55	ekem	even if i found cheaters i would reward those that found the cheaters, and then tp to them and hold a trial
22:55	tim_flatus	That's an interesting idea
22:55	ekem	if they were found guilty, the coords to their base were put public, they were stripped of all items
22:56	ekem	base was free for all and then i let the other players hunt the convicted across the map
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22:56	ekem	basicaly i sort of wanted cheaters in the server, and to be on my side, eventualy they would realize it was unfun to cheat and inform me of new cheats
22:57	ekem	id give them titles like necromancer or convict etc while good players who were pretty close to end game became wizards, that sort of thing
22:57	ekem	also, setup jails where you can imprison people's avatar for x amount of time
22:58	tim_flatus	That's something I'm thinking of building very soon...
22:58	tim_flatus	tI don't actually kick players very often
22:58	ekem	oh haha, the other good tactic was to setup a hell dimension, if you can get perms setup you just TP bad players to this really terrible dimension where like sunlight kills you
22:59	ekem	so they have to live underground with a shit ton of monsters or something, i really really tried to avoid getting low orbit ion canoned
22:59	tim_flatus	low orbit ion canoned?
22:59	ekem	which i found banned players did a lot. of course you just submit their ips to the fbi or something and post the page of the submission on the forums and kek all the way to the bank
23:00	ekem	its a ddos tool for script kiddies
23:00	tim_flatus	Ah ok
23:00	ekem	!google
23:00	ekem	eh
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23:01	ekem	id really love to run servers again, but its something like 800 a month for a decent box
23:01	ekem	er
23:01	ekem	a year
23:01	ekem	derp
23:01	tim_flatus	I'm not running a decent box. That's one reason why I do kick people occasionally
23:01	ekem	totally understand
23:02	ekem	next time i rent a dedicated i think ill xen it and setup virtual machines to give out
23:02	ekem	that sort of thing
23:02	ekem	if you get the right cpu setup you can run multiple servers
23:03	tim_flatus	You've given me some real food for thought there. Thanks!
23:04	* ekem	ekems
23:04	tim_flatus	It's the one thing that I haven't found much advice on.
23:05	ekem	well im always around, feel free to ask any questions
23:06	ekem	two of the bests things you can do for your players are to setup an irc channel on a network like esper.net (freenode is not for social chans)
23:06	ekem	and then setup a mumble server
23:06	ekem	maybe some forums, basically get a cheap vps
23:08	tim_flatus	ok
23:09	tim_flatus	I'm really finding out how much I don't know right now.
23:10	ekem	you are going to have a ton of fun, and learn a bunch admining a server
23:10	ekem	so keep it up
23:10	ekem	here is a referal link for digial ocean, if you start it through a referel you get 10 bucks credit
23:10	ekem	https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=bea8f08796dc
23:10	ekem	their vps service runs at 5 bucks a month, if you are a student, sign up for githubs student pack
23:10	ekem	they will give you 100 bucks credit!
23:11	ekem	you can run a website, forums, and mumble from a vps like that
23:11	tim_flatus	I'm so not a student :D
23:11	ekem	oh wellz :)
23:11	ekem	its all grades btw not just college
23:12	tim_flatus	sure
23:13	tim_flatus	I run several websites all ready, that side isn't a problem for me
23:13	tim_flatus	But mumble is new to me
23:13	ekem	mumble is my choice over teamspeak because its open source
23:13	ekem	and the interface is not a bloated mess
23:13	ekem	people will complain, but give them an RMS speech
23:13	tim_flatus	Hmm. It says cloud :(
23:13	ekem	cloud?
23:14	ekem	http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page
23:14	tim_flatus	I don't like cloud stuff much
23:14	ekem	if you have a vps, try searching the repository
23:14	ekem	the cloud is a non existent thing of course
23:14	tim_flatus	Sure I will look into it deeper.
23:14	ekem	i mean a vps is considered cloud
23:14	tim_flatus	Oh right
23:14	ekem	try sudo apt-cache search mumble
23:14	ekem	or yum search mumble
23:14	ekem	the server might be called murmur
23:15	tim_flatus	I'd sooner work out how to run things on my own physical box
23:16	ekem	yeah, murmur is meant to be run on your server
23:16	ekem	it has a server binary etc
23:16	ekem	the cloud stuff you are seeing is rpobabl google giving you a hosting service
23:16	ekem	they just run a ton of murmur server binaries on different ports
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23:17	tim_flatus	Ah that's what is - penny drops
23:17	tim_flatus	VoIP
23:18	tim_flatus	Now we're talking ;-)
23:19	ekem	:D
23:19	tim_flatus	And it's python-django stuff - home :-)
23:19	ekem	yep, there is totally a plugin for that
23:20	ekem	http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Murmurguide
23:20	ekem	there is the server config and install guide
23:25	tim_flatus	Wonderful stuff ekem
23:28	ekem	:D
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23:35	Inocudom	Ooooooooh yeeeeeaaaaaaaah, it's starting to sound like a hurricane out there (does the it sucks but its true nod.)
23:36	VanessaE	Inocudom: dude. just stop.
23:37	VanessaE	it's windy as all hell here too. big deal.
23:37	VanessaE	(yeah, I saw your hell-is-coming post in the logs)
23:38	Inocudom	But the cold, the shear cold. Colder than its been in years. ReelFeel -30F, just like what wise man Alan Watt experiences up in Canada every single night.
23:39	VanessaE	so?
23:39	VanessaE	so it's colder than a snowman's ass, not like that's anything new :P
23:40	Inocudom	You used to that too? That not normal for my area. Not normal at all. I now hate winter... and the planet Neptune.
23:40	VanessaE	what do other planets have to do with anything?
23:41	Inocudom	The winter storm is called Neptune. Neptune has the fastest winds in the solar system, and is associated with the sea and the trident.
23:41	VanessaE	and yeah, I'm used to it. it's blowing a gale outside here right now, 20 mph continuous, gusting past 30.
23:42	Inocudom	Same up here. Nothing compared to what Boston's going to get though. The weather there would make Siberia proud.
23:42	Inocudom	You have heard about the problems in New England, have you?
23:43	VanessaE	yeo
23:43	VanessaE	yep
23:43	Inocudom	The trident is associated with the kabbalistic tree of life (yes, I know about about that stuff.)
23:43	VanessaE	I have two close friends who live in upstate NY
23:44	VanessaE	he's gotten, idk, three feet of that white crap in the past few weeks maybe
23:44	VanessaE	and he seems to be doing okay
23:45	Hirato	when I think of sea and trident, I think poseidon
23:46	VanessaE	and no, I'm pretty sure that Neptune's trident is not associated with the Kabbalah.
23:46	Inocudom	Poseidon is Neptune, thus he is associated with the sea... the abyss.
23:47	VanessaE	(only with the letter "shin" and then it's not a direct association, rather a similarity. the trident is a weapon and a tool. Shin represents three flames and is not a weapon at all)
23:48	Inocudom	But how do you keep warm in this icemare? The epa has been cracking down on wood stoves.
23:48	VanessaE	so use electric.
23:49	Inocudom	And if the electric goes out... You have to wonder what their goals are by doing this stuff.
23:49	VanessaE	and their crackdown is on the smoke emission of wood-burning stoves
23:49	VanessaE	that means you need a more efficient stove, that's all
23:49	VanessaE	and then, that doesn't go into effect until 2017
23:50	VanessaE	and it probably doesn't affect stoves that are already in service.
23:50	ekem	Y'ALL kNOW ABOUT THE LIZARD PEOPLE
23:50	ekem	dude i used to live in fairbanks AK, fuck woodstoves in a densely populated area
23:50	ekem	just straight fuck that
23:50	Hirato	ekem: it's true, I'm a dragon!
23:50	Hirato	roar!
23:51	ekem	if your region has any type of weather inversion where warm air stays close to the ground and you have > 100 heating days
23:51	ekem	wood stoves straight suck in cities
23:51	ekem	its like 16th century london
23:51	Inocudom	Let's hope its that late. By the way, Alan Watt talk about that in his radio show. You can hear its episodes on YouTube you know.
23:51	ekem	i clicked on a link yesteday, i made it 5/200 minutes
23:52	ekem	i like wood stoves, but people dont buy the nice scandanavian models for the most part
23:52	VanessaE	aw come on Inocudom enough with the woo-woo stuff
23:52	VanessaE	start talking reality
23:52	ekem	and use the american style cast iron, which just pollute the bananas out of the area
23:52	ekem	if you are living ruraly, by all means fire that stack up
23:53	VanessaE	and wait a minute, what whose goals are?
23:53	VanessaE	you trying to say someone is out to get us?
23:53	VanessaE	come on man
23:53	ekem	>weather modification
23:53	VanessaE	inb4 someone mentions HAARP
23:53	ekem	damint
23:53	VanessaE	(or whatever they call it now)
23:53	Inocudom	Don't underestimate the powers that be. They have cracked down on people known as preppers. If you think things are bad in America, try Europe.
23:54	ekem	haarp was dismantled this last year if i recall
23:54	ekem	i forget the status on it.
23:54	Hirato	christ, his website, it's like something straight out of geocities
23:54	VanessaE	ekem: not dismantled. decommissioned for its original purpose
23:54	VanessaE	but the facility is still in service. they're just doing other stuff now, but idk what exactly.
23:54	ekem	the other one i love is the con trails on commercial airliners
23:54	VanessaE	or rather, one of the facilities... in Alaska wasn't it?
23:55	VanessaE	ekem: you mean "chem"trails? :P
23:55	ekem	i worked as an AP mechanic for years, there is no reality on the planet where aviation mechanics get paid enough to be quiet about that
23:55	ekem	bros for type 120 and 121 airlines like delta or AA get paid under 20 bucks an hour to fix those planes
23:56	ekem	VanessaE, yeah in ak
23:56	VanessaE	that's gotta be the BIGGEST bullshit story I've ever heard... planes dumping chemicals out their engines.. I mean fuck, a crop duster can barely cover a single field using more than would be dumped out of a commercial airliner
23:57	ekem	youd have to have huge auxilary tanks. now the army/air force does do cloud seeding
23:57	Hirato	in before http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/
23:57	ekem	lol
23:57	ekem	lizard people.
23:58	VanessaE	cloud seeding. sure. :P
23:58	ekem	this is probably the greatest dance track ever
23:58	ekem	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pow_EKCY9Y&feature=youtu.be
23:58	ekem	i fucking love that video
23:58	ekem	its so edgy i cut myself on it every time i play it
23:58	Hirato	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fYKBIvq-o title reminds me of this
23:58	VanessaE	if I'd believe any of that, I'd first believe a chemical explosion caused that orange cloud over...eh...someplace in Russia was it?
23:58	VanessaE	excuse me
23:58	VanessaE	spain
23:59	VanessaE	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11411152/Toxic-orange-cloud-over-Spanish-town-after-chemical-blast.html
23:59	VanessaE	THAT is reality.
23:59	ekem	yeah, there are some nasty things going on with industry and nations states
23:59	Inocudom	I don't watch tv these days. To much dark/occultic stuff in it. Most music is garbage to these days. And you wonder why society is going down the tubes.
23:59	ekem	:\|
23:59	VanessaE	or the blue snow in Chelyabinsk, Russia

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