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zBuilder |
nope. not this one |
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luizrpgluiz |
someone already messed with world generator? |
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zBuilder |
? |
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jin_xi |
luizrpgluiz: you can do entire world gen in lua if you like, hmmmmmm has posted an example on the forums |
| 01:22 |
jin_xi |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6396 |
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jin_xi |
here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/ocAyR1x.png |
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jin_xi: which is responsible for generating this file changed world? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
what should I check, if the public server list isn't showing up in my client? |
| 03:32 |
LazyJ |
Your server isn't showing up on the list or the list isn't showing up? |
| 03:33 |
LazyJ |
The former is some minetest.conf lines, the latter... I have no clue. |
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Miner_48er |
did you check the public Serverlist checkbox? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
LazyJ: the latter |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Miner_48er: yes, it's checked |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Just wondering if there's something else that I need to install - running a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install |
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thefamilygrog66 |
standalone compiled git client |
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LazyJ |
The compile, umm... string?... may need something. |
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LazyJ |
cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=ON -DENABLE_CURL=ON -DBUILD_CLIENT=1 -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=ON -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 |
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LazyJ |
Ommit the last part about DENABLE_LEVELDB. Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have all the required libraries, iirc. |
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Yepoleb |
Where is the 3d player skin texture located? All I can find are the player.png and player_back.png files, which are only used for the 2d model. |
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cheapie |
thefamilygrog66: Any particular reason you're using 12.04? |
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cheapie |
14.10 is probably out, or 14.04 if you want LTS (I think that's how Ubuntu's versions work, anyway. It's been a while since I've used Ubuntu). |
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thefamilygrog66 |
LazyJ: I just copied/pasted the compile string from the wiki, adding --STANDALONE=1 at the end. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
cheapie: old laptop, and 12.04 is supported for awhile longer |
| 04:08 |
cheapie |
How old of a laptop? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
hmm, let me check... |
| 04:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha, 9 years old |
| 04:09 |
LazyJ |
Ubuntu's "LTS" releases are every 2yrs at April (04). |
| 04:09 |
LazyJ |
So 14.04 was the last LTS. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
it's a toshiba tecra a6 |
| 04:10 |
LazyJ |
The LTS releases are supported for 6 or 7 years, iirc. |
| 04:10 |
cheapie |
512MB of RAM? Ouch. |
| 04:11 |
LazyJ |
We are running Ubuntu 12.04 but are starting to run into issues with outdated or non-existent dependencies/libraries for stuff beyond Minetest. |
| 04:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
no, I have 2 Gigs in it now |
| 04:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
and I just threw a 120GB SSD - minetest 0.4.11 runs beautifully on it (with the shaders turned off) |
| 04:12 |
cheapie |
That sounds perfectly capable of a modern version then (maybe not Ubuntu with its bloated UI, but something like LXDE should be fine). |
| 04:12 |
LazyJ |
As for why the list isn't showing up when everything else is? |
| 04:13 |
cheapie |
LazyJ: It... doesn't like you? |
| 04:13 |
LazyJ |
Has the recent unstable releases introduced a bug? |
| 04:13 |
LazyJ |
*Have the recent... |
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* cheapie |
checks on his copy of MT |
| 04:14 |
cheapie |
Server list works fine here, and I just pulled earlier today. |
| 04:14 |
LazyJ |
We're still running 0.4.10 on the server so I can't compare (server to server). |
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cheapie |
I hardly ever /use/ it, but it works. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Not sure - I have the same setup (though a slightly earlier 0.4.11) running on another computer here, and the list shows up. |
| 04:15 |
LazyJ |
My client is usually the latest unstable release but that doesn't count in this case. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Not a big deal really, just thought there might be a dependency I'm missing |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Also, 12.04 is supported for another 2 years, apparently. |
| 04:15 |
LazyJ |
Beyond me, grog. |
| 04:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
No worries. |
| 04:15 |
LazyJ |
;) |
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Miner_48er |
servers.minetest.net |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I'm just happy to get some more life out of the ol' laptop. |
| 04:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
^^^ yes |
| 04:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Interestingly, 0.4.11 crashes when I try running it on the same laptop, with a Windows XP drive in it. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
What the heck is a "pangolin" though? |
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* Krock |
tries to compile minetest using zlib 1.2.8 |
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* Krock |
failed |
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Krock |
wait no. it works after manipulating gettext.cpp >:D |
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Krock |
yeah man |
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est31 |
zlib is used for compression while transport and curl? |
| 10:10 |
Krock |
idk :3 |
| 10:10 |
Krock |
damn, öäü characters are broken now |
| 10:11 |
est31 |
was there atime they werent |
| 10:11 |
Krock |
yes |
| 10:11 |
est31 |
question what do you mean by broken |
| 10:11 |
Krock |
they don't display anymore |
| 10:11 |
Krock |
however, I'll upload the codes to let you see what I changed |
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est31 |
so when you select the tab "Einzelspieler" you dont get kreativitätsmodus? |
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Xack |
hi Calinou |
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Xack |
:) |
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Calinou |
hi |
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Krock |
est31, I get that label but without the ä |
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Krock |
est31, https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest/commit/1c5dd |
| 10:25 |
Krock |
that change allowed me to use zlib 1.2.8 |
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Krock |
all non-ASCII characters are ignored |
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est31 |
hate the missing Unicode support in MT |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
what's the difference between Unicode and UTF-8? |
| 10:34 |
sfan5 |
unicode is the specification of characters |
| 10:34 |
sfan5 |
utf-8 is a way to encode unicode |
| 10:35 |
Calinou |
thanks |
| 10:40 |
Arch-TK |
"the codes" |
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Arch-TK |
-_- |
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Arch-TK |
I'll go back to breaking my kernel. |
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Caleneledh |
Is there anywhere I can get some useful information on Technic's api? I tried reading the code, but my Lua skills are lacking lol. |
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Caleneledh |
I want to make a particle accelerator, and have no idea how to tie things into Tecnhic. |
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est31 |
Caleneledh: there is a channel #minetest-technic, and also I can help. In 10 mins? |
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Calinou |
browser tip of the day: Ctrl + Tab switches between tabs |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
useful to click lots of buttons |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
Ctrl + Shift + Tab does the same, but backwards |
| 11:42 |
est31 |
can be also achieved by ctrl + pgup and pgdown. |
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Calinou |
I moved a bunch of mod topics |
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est31 |
mine too yeey! |
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Hirato |
> past the year 2005 |
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Hirato |
> not using Tree Style Tab |
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ElectronLibre |
I just thought of something, has anyone ever thought that /give[me] could handle multiple itemstring/quantity in their given parameters? |
| 12:29 |
LazyJ |
You mean like: "/giveme cobble 99, wood 300, wool:white 500"? Yeah, that would be useful. |
| 12:30 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, something like that. A couple days ago I was giving me a full inventory and even with /give[me] it was a pain.. I'm gonna work on this, maybe open a PR when it's done. |
| 12:30 |
LazyJ |
Also being able to give multiple players the same item all at once: "/give klappspaten,shadowpawn84,ubuntuyou admin-pick" |
| 12:31 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, why not. |
| 12:32 |
ElectronLibre |
So it would check if param2 is an itemstring, if it's not then if it's a player, and do that until the end of the list. |
| 12:32 |
LazyJ |
" /give LazyJ steak_dinner,coffee,chocolate_sundae" should be *top* priority! :0) |
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* ElectronLibre |
writes down. |
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reber |
hi |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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alket |
hi luizrpgluiz |
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reber |
ideas ? : http://pastebin.com/XkYskDrg |
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est31 |
reber: update your minetest to use version 0.4.11 |
| 15:10 |
reber |
est31, already done ... |
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est31 |
aww |
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est31 |
For this particular problem, it may be better to install an older version of minetest. |
| 15:13 |
est31 |
one released before april 2014 |
| 15:13 |
Calinou |
edit the mod and remove the error |
| 15:13 |
est31 |
or remve the mod |
| 15:13 |
est31 |
remove the wheather dir |
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luizrpgluiz |
someone made a map generator mod? |
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JakubVanek |
is minetest.add_particlespawner dead or alive? i saw diff/gist from ShadowNinja which changed it's arguments to particlespawnerdef table |
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JakubVanek |
but idk if it is commited |
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Krock |
luizrpgluiz, Wuzzy did. his new origin mod |
| 16:11 |
Krock |
it generates an amazing origin and offers you almost infinite creativity |
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jin_xi |
JakubVanek: its alive, use a table for argument afaik |
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JakubVanek |
thanks |
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reber |
est31, thanks it worked |
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reber |
i can't make the boat mod work ideas ? |
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reber |
what is the name of the mod to have help in invetory ? |
| 16:56 |
reber |
all recipes help in inventory |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
unified_inventory |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
or inventory_plus and zcg |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 17:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello rubenwardy. |
| 17:00 |
rubenwardy |
Would you like to hear 5 myths about leather sofas and furniture? |
| 17:00 |
rubenwardy |
:D So boring. |
| 17:01 |
rubenwardy |
Would you like to hear five myths about the Streptomyces bacterium? |
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VanessaE |
good morning all.... or something |
| 17:08 |
Birdy_ |
Hi |
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Birdy_ |
what place is this |
| 17:09 |
* ElectronLibre |
substracts and deduct it's not going to be morning for a long time in the US. Hello VanessaE. |
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acerspyro |
it's noon here |
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Birdy_ |
it is morning though .its 9:10 |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
it's noon but my brain still thinks its like, 8am or so |
| 17:10 |
Birdy_ |
where are you |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
north carolina. |
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* Jordach |
got up at 2pm :D |
| 17:10 |
ElectronLibre |
It's the evening around here in France.. |
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acerspyro |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnaEqxu1-qE |
| 17:11 |
Birdy_ |
how do i irc |
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Birdy_ |
im in CA |
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acerspyro |
Birdy_: u rtfm n u lrn 2 spk l33t |
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acerspyro |
And you fuck with everyone |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
"how do I irc" ? |
| 17:12 |
Birdy_ |
? |
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* VanessaE |
sihs |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
sighs* |
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Birdy_ |
what vulgar language |
| 17:12 |
* acerspyro |
grabs VanessaE by the nuke, and slaps his hand on her forehead |
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marktraceur |
Birdy_: IRC Isn't Really Censored |
| 17:13 |
acerspyro |
When you need to facepalm someone else to achieve the desired effect... |
| 17:13 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy_, they've already said worse than that. |
| 17:13 |
Birdy_ |
is confused |
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acerspyro |
Birdy_: IRC is freedom |
| 17:13 |
Birdy_ |
what |
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acerspyro |
Learn to deal with it |
| 17:14 |
Birdy_ |
wait how i said worse |
| 17:14 |
acerspyro |
IRC has no rules, except from common sense, and here, swearing is not part of common-sense unless the channel is dedicated to being kid-friendly |
| 17:14 |
* ElectronLibre |
can't remember how many bad words he learnt here. |
| 17:14 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy_, I said "they", not "you". |
| 17:14 |
Birdy_ |
oh |
| 17:14 |
acerspyro |
Oh you also need to learn to read to use IRC |
| 17:14 |
ElectronLibre |
Or if you're abusing another user. |
| 17:14 |
ElectronLibre |
Then it's forbidden. |
| 17:14 |
acerspyro |
ElectronLibre: IRC rape? |
| 17:14 |
Birdy_ |
yes |
| 17:14 |
Birdy_ |
? |
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ElectronLibre |
The exact word is more "insult" but I accidentaly swapped it with "abuse" sorry. |
| 17:15 |
acerspyro |
lol |
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Birdy_ |
ok so im new here but how do i play minetest and irc |
| 17:16 |
acerspyro |
You can't play irc lol |
| 17:16 |
acerspyro |
go to the website, download it |
| 17:16 |
Birdy_ |
? feels dumb |
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acerspyro |
That's normal |
| 17:16 |
ElectronLibre |
Start it, and then play. |
| 17:16 |
acerspyro |
You didn't inform yourself before coming here |
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Birdy_ |
tbh idk what im doing |
| 17:16 |
marktraceur |
Is there not a link to the website in the topic? Apart from the server list... |
| 17:16 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: http://minetest.net/ |
| 17:16 |
marktraceur |
Download. Play. |
| 17:16 |
acerspyro |
marktraceur: nopr |
| 17:16 |
acerspyro |
e |
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Birdy_ |
im on tablet but whats pc |
| 17:17 |
marktraceur |
Jesus christ |
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Jordach |
MY SIDES |
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marktraceur |
Birdy_: I'm not sure there's a reliable mobile port yet |
| 17:17 |
acerspyro |
ARGH |
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acerspyro |
IT HURTS |
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Birdy_ |
? |
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acerspyro |
SO BAHAHAHAHAD :D |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
oh for G*d sakes |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
you don't know what a PC is? |
| 17:18 |
ElectronLibre |
Personal Computer. |
| 17:18 |
acerspyro |
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 17:18 |
acerspyro |
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 17:18 |
marktraceur |
Calm your shit, guys |
| 17:18 |
Birdy_ |
i probaly do but ok whats pc |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
you know? a desktop computer? the thing through which your tablet probably connects to the internet? |
| 17:18 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: It stands for "personal computer", but it's usually meant to mean "not Mac OS X" |
| 17:18 |
acerspyro |
THAT MADE MY DAY LIFE |
| 17:18 |
ElectronLibre |
Those little things so called "Desk computers" or "Laptop". |
| 17:18 |
marktraceur |
But it definitely means desktop or laptop. |
| 17:18 |
Birdy_ |
ohh ok so how do i play minetest on a pc |
| 17:19 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: By downloading it. |
| 17:19 |
Krock |
acerspyro, I don't get the joke. could you please explain me that? |
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| 17:19 |
Birdy_ |
wdy mean |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: you download the PC-based client from the website you were given. |
| 17:19 |
ElectronLibre |
Launche minetest.exe then, and play. |
| 17:19 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: http://minetest.net/download |
| 17:19 |
Birdy_ |
oh cant not allowed too |
| 17:19 |
marktraceur |
Well then you're screwed |
| 17:19 |
Birdy_ |
but thx |
| 17:19 |
marktraceur |
Sorry mate |
| 17:19 |
ElectronLibre |
From a tablet it's normal. |
| 17:20 |
Birdy_ |
i see |
| 17:20 |
Birdy_ |
so is thia just a chat room |
| 17:20 |
marktraceur |
Yes. |
| 17:20 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 17:21 |
Birdy_ |
oh so if i were on minetest would you still be able to chat and read |
| 17:21 |
ElectronLibre |
No. |
| 17:22 |
Birdy_ |
then how do people have their name @IRC |
| 17:22 |
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| 17:22 |
marktraceur |
There is a chat system inside of Minetest, but it's not the same system. |
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| 17:23 |
Birdy_ |
ok so im confused TBH i know nothing of how all this works |
| 17:23 |
marktraceur |
Clearly |
| 17:23 |
Birdy_ |
its obvious huh |
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| 17:23 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: Minetest is a game that is played over the network. It communicates game data, player data, and chat data over the network. |
| 17:23 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: IRC is a TOTALLY SEPARATE THING from Minetest. It sends chat data over the network, but not in the same way. |
| 17:24 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: You can register an account on a Minetest server by logging in to it. So I can log in to MarkTraceur on a server that doesn't have a person registered under that name, anytime. |
| 17:25 |
marktraceur |
Birdy_: You can register an account on Freenode, which is this particular IRC network, by contacting NickServ, which I have done for MarkTraceur. |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
Oh dear |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
this is a general minetest related irc channel, some game servers have a channel of their own, some are connected like the inchra.net network of some eight or so gameservers |
| 17:26 |
acerspyro |
My fucking god... |
| 17:26 |
marktraceur |
RIP Birdy_. |
| 17:27 |
ElectronLibre |
I think I'm gonna print the logs and put them in a frame hung over my chimney. |
| 17:27 |
acerspyro |
"I just wanna be buddies" |
| 17:28 |
acerspyro |
That was the best one I've seen of my life |
| 17:28 |
ElectronLibre |
It's gold, it's even mese. |
| 17:28 |
acerspyro |
I'll see if I can get back the log |
| 17:28 |
ElectronLibre |
Here we go : http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2015-02-08#i_4147135 |
| 17:30 |
acerspyro |
http://pastie.org/9903650 |
| 17:30 |
acerspyro |
gnu backgammon... |
| 17:30 |
acerspyro |
I didn't see that line. |
| 17:31 |
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| 17:32 |
twoelk |
a list of game server irc channels might come in handy by now. I wonder how many there are. I think I noticed some five or six. With the inchra network there must be a dozen servers with connection to some irc channel |
| 17:32 |
marktraceur |
#lpgc-minetest of course (though I'm not sure if our server is actually running) |
| 17:32 |
marktraceur |
Er no. |
| 17:32 |
marktraceur |
#libreplanet-gaming |
| 17:32 |
marktraceur |
lpgc-minetest is the IRC bot. |
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| 17:50 |
Birdy_ |
Hi |
| 17:50 |
acerspyro |
FUCK |
| 17:50 |
* acerspyro |
hides |
| 17:50 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 17:51 |
Birdy_ |
:/ |
| 17:51 |
ElectronLibre |
He is still a little bit shocked after your last visit. |
| 17:51 |
ElectronLibre |
Don't be afraid. |
| 17:51 |
Birdy_ |
i dont understand wym |
| 17:52 |
ElectronLibre |
He was just very surprised that you didn't know what "PC" stands for. |
| 17:52 |
Birdy_ |
what did i say/do thats shocking |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
acerspyro: Be nice, jeez |
| 17:53 |
Birdy_ |
Oh yeah .ok well now i know |
| 17:53 |
ElectronLibre |
"<Birdy_> im on tablet but whats pc" <= This has litteraly destroyed him. |
| 17:53 |
acerspyro |
lol |
| 17:53 |
marktraceur |
ElectronLibre: You too. |
| 17:53 |
Birdy_ |
:( |
| 17:54 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes but after that I got back to normal. |
| 17:54 |
ElectronLibre |
s/normal/quite normal |
| 17:54 |
acerspyro |
I'm still shocked |
| 17:54 |
acerspyro |
:P |
| 17:54 |
acerspyro |
I got mind blown right there |
| 17:54 |
marktraceur |
It's not that big of a deal |
| 17:54 |
Birdy_ |
ok i get it |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
Your going on about it only serves to make Birdy_ feel bad |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
So stfu, acerspyro |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
God damn it |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
This is the fucking bullshit |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
This right |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
her. |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
e. |
| 17:55 |
acerspyro |
I shut up after you told me.e |
| 17:55 |
acerspyro |
e.e |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
The fucking bullshit that made me leave for so long. |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
You guys treat people like shit, you step all over their good faith efforts so fucking frequently |
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| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
Show some goddamned courtesy. |
| 17:56 |
acerspyro |
Here's courtesy for ya |
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| 17:56 |
Birdy_ |
its ok though imuaed to thi s kinds thing |
| 17:56 |
ElectronLibre |
Even I've been quite surprised, I stop now. And this part's signature is mean. |
| 17:56 |
rubenwardy |
He might know it as just a "Computer". |
| 17:57 |
Birdy_ |
i shock some one everyday |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
Also, ElectronLibre watch your use of "litterally" :P |
| 17:57 |
Birdy_ |
i want to be a computer engineer |
| 17:58 |
ElectronLibre |
Why? Does it mean something special in english? |
| 17:58 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 17:58 |
rubenwardy |
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally |
| 17:58 |
ElectronLibre |
(because I use too many adverbs in french so I translate them when I write >_>) |
| 17:58 |
Birdy_ |
ok so |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
Oh, okay. You are excused if it's not your native language. I assumed you were American. |
| 17:59 |
Birdy_ |
wow |
| 18:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh I see. It's the same meaning than it's in french but in english it have to be exact, in french it's just a way to exaggerate (and say something exact too). |
| 18:00 |
VanessaE |
the thing is, I deal with so many kids on my servers' channel who ARE American, who speak just as Birdy here does, rubenwardy, that it has become almost impossible to tell anymore. |
| 18:01 |
Birdy_ |
so now wghaok |
| 18:01 |
Brains |
ElectronLibre: It means the same in English, it has just been abused to the point that folks get testy about its non-literal use. |
| 18:01 |
ElectronLibre |
VanessaE: I would like to understand how kids speak as well as you do. |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: but be fair, there's no excuse for not knowing what a PC is. they're ubiquitous. everyone's seen one, most people own one. to not know what one is is a sign of willful ignorance in 95% of cases. |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
ElectronLibre: I'm not a kid. that's one reason. |
| 18:02 |
rubenwardy |
He's probably about 9/10. The iPad race |
| 18:02 |
ElectronLibre |
Indeed, and you have to deal with them on Inchra's IRC channels. |
| 18:02 |
rubenwardy |
I can't find it in me to correct a toddler when he says "can I have a go on the iPad?" and it is a Nexus 7. |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
oh derp. I misread what you said. |
| 18:02 |
ElectronLibre |
That's what I was going to say rubenwardy :/ |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
it's part of having grown up in an era when textspeak didn't really exist, and "u", "r", "k" was frowned upon. "netiquette", as much as we generally hated the word, was expected of everyone. Then Eternal September happened. |
| 18:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Most of today's kids start using tablets, and not PCs, I know people who can't use a mouse but have no problem with a tablet using the same OS than their computer. |
| 18:04 |
Brains |
rubenwardy: Corrections are usually not optimal anyways. The best move is to understand what they meant and then make sure you use the proper terminology yourself. Kids (and humans in general) are super sponges as long as you don't get their back up. |
| 18:04 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah. That't my reasoning, Brains. |
| 18:04 |
Brains |
VanessaE: Still happening... |
| 18:04 |
ElectronLibre |
"nettiquette" is made out of a french word if I remember correctly.. |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
Brains: case in point. |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
ElectronLibre: "network etiquette" |
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| 18:05 |
Brains |
ElectronLibre: English clubs other languages over the head and steals their vocab and grammar. Too bad, it is ours now. =:P |
| 18:05 |
rubenwardy |
I don't usually use text speak at all. Only when limited by characterd |
| 18:05 |
rubenwardy |
or the keyboard sucks |
| 18:05 |
rubenwardy |
welcome back, Birdy_ |
| 18:05 |
Birdy_ |
Hi |
| 18:05 |
ElectronLibre |
So, same word in english and french, "etiquette". Brains: We stole loads of words from english (week-ends, emails, parkings, etc...) |
| 18:06 |
ElectronLibre |
rubenwardy: I would NEVER use text speak if I had the choice. |
| 18:06 |
rubenwardy |
I agree |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: I don't even use textspeak when I'm texting on my cellphone. it's got a full keyboard and decent auto-predict and auto-correct, and I pay attention to what's being written, so my tests actually come out as full messages, with a bit of grammar compromise for the sake of brevity. |
| 18:06 |
ElectronLibre |
My english is already that bad :°... |
| 18:06 |
Birdy_ |
Oh i use it here |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
my texts* |
| 18:07 |
rubenwardy |
I use "lol", "iirc", "afaik", "brb" and "gtg". |
| 18:07 |
Brains |
ElectronLibre: Yeah, but you guys have an offical language... The closest thing English has is some old guys who figure out what people are saying enough to write down. (OED) |
| 18:07 |
Birdy_ |
But texting a person i know i text normal |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: never, under any circumstances, ever EVER use text speak on IRC. Please. |
| 18:07 |
* Calinou |
writes full texts, always |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: you will be chastised heavily for doing so. |
| 18:07 |
Birdy_ |
Why |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
VanessaE will fly over to your house, slap you, and talk to your parents |
| 18:08 |
Birdy_ |
Why? |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
She has one brown and one green eye |
| 18:08 |
Birdy_ |
Why? |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
boogeywoman. D: |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: because this is IRC, and most of us here have real keyboards (as in the kind you see in movies). IRC is a chat medium designed around the idea that you should never need to abbreviate your words. This is not twitter, you don't have to limit your messages to 140 chars. |
| 18:09 |
Birdy_ |
Ok |
| 18:09 |
ElectronLibre |
Brains, you know, in France, about 200 years ago, we were still writing as we would, there could be 4 ways to write a word, but today precise grammar have been settled and thaught to children. |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
or 160, whatever it is. |
| 18:09 |
ElectronLibre |
It is 140. |
| 18:09 |
Birdy_ |
So lol. I should wrire it out then? |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
ok, then 160 for an SMS I guess. |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: that's not textspeak. |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
those are standard abbreviations that predate the internet. |
| 18:10 |
ElectronLibre |
In fact, even if you send a big message, it will be shown into 2,3,4,etc.. messages. |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
stuff like that is generally okay. |
| 18:10 |
Birdy_ |
Ok . |
| 18:10 |
Brains |
Which was the luck of some poor sap's cellphone message design that had nothing to do with texts in the first place... And then got copied by twitter 'cause apparently people have trouble with long form messages... |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
ElectronLibre: not always. Some IRC clients will just truncate the message. |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
(mine splits it) |
| 18:10 |
ElectronLibre |
Mine too, it's more clever to me. |
| 18:10 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 18:11 |
Birdy_ |
Wyd. |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
wyd? |
| 18:11 |
Birdy_ |
Yes wyd? |
| 18:11 |
ElectronLibre |
Pff.. |
| 18:11 |
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| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
that's the third or forth time you wrote that. what does it mean? |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
_what _you _doing |
| 18:11 |
* ElectronLibre |
grabs a paper and starts writing translations from text speak to english. |
| 18:11 |
Birdy_ |
tes |
| 18:11 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
that's an example of textspeak. |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
don't use that here. |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
totally exciting situation |
| 18:12 |
Birdy_ |
so is that bas |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
hell I use "idk" an awful lot lately when I know I shouldn't. |
| 18:12 |
Birdy_ |
bad |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
bad as snake |
| 18:12 |
ElectronLibre |
Maybe some of the most known like "idk" or "iirc" could be ok but avoid using them. |
| 18:12 |
Birdy_ |
Omg no That requires effort |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: when you use textspeak in this medium, it makes you look uneducated or lazy. you don't want that. |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
Using proper text is much easier to understand |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
IMO it isn't do bad |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
did i do it right? |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
"omg, that requires effort". and this, ladies and gentlemen, exemplifies the problem :-( |
| 18:13 |
sfan5 |
s/do/so/ |
| 18:13 |
Birdy_ |
Actually your right. I want to be sophisticated? |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
you want to be *normal* |
| 18:13 |
Birdy_ |
No smarter |
| 18:13 |
Brains |
Adequate would be a better word... Normal sucks. |
| 18:13 |
Birdy_ |
Sorry |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
as smart as you normally are, no more and no less. |
| 18:13 |
Brains |
Adequate is a minimum |
| 18:14 |
Birdy_ |
This is going to far |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
come off dumb, and people will tend to ignore or berate you. come off as smart and people will think you're making it all up or call you liar, blowhard, etc. |
| 18:14 |
Birdy_ |
Actually I don't do normal? |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
you do normal every day when you talk to your friends. |
| 18:15 |
Birdy_ |
No . They think I am everthing other than normal! |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
well that's the impression you give them. I wonder why that is? |
| 18:16 |
Birdy_ |
But normal is boring |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
so? |
| 18:16 |
Birdy_ |
So? its no fun |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
normal is only borin if you let "boring" define your "normal" state. |
| 18:16 |
Brains |
Birdy could be a decent troll... Certainly got the channel engaged. |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
boring* |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
Classic VanessaE sentence ^ |
| 18:16 |
Birdy_ |
I am never bored |
| 18:17 |
Birdy_ |
That tends to happpen |
| 18:17 |
VanessaE |
bored != boring. |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
ugh |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
cuda-6.5.19-1-x86_64 151,5 MiB 641K/s 14:17 [####------------------] 22% |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
i hate updating cuda |
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| 18:17 |
Caleneledh |
Bored = lazy |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
641 KB/s is twice as fast as my connection, sfan5 |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
also, CUDA is evil |
| 18:17 |
Brains |
sfan5: Let the nVidia haterade flow please. |
| 18:17 |
VanessaE |
as a matter of fact, you can be incredibly bored and still be the most interesting person on the planet. |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
one often comes with the other, as a side effect of being interesting or smart. |
| 18:18 |
Birdy_ |
I am very intersested in peole |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: it would go faster (13xxK/s) if i wasn't also download arch linux for the odroid-c1 right now |
| 18:18 |
Brains |
VanessaE: You can't see it but I'm miming the hand motions that my 1st grader's teacher uses to remind them to capitalize at the front and punctuate at the end. =:P |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
the smarter the person, the harder it is for that person to remain engaged and therefore the more likely it is for that person to get bored (assuming a lack of sufficient stimulus) |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
nice |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
Brains: nvidia is the only option if you use linux and want working drivers |
| 18:18 |
Birdy_ |
so many errors |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
also I'm not even sure for what i need cuda |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: AMD works fine for me. |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
sfan5, in 2015, Intel provides perfectly working drivers |
| 18:19 |
sfan5 |
i installed it for some reason |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
so does AMD, although they should be avoided for obvious reasons |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: you'll notice that at no point do I resort to textspeak or "u", "y", and so on. |
| 18:19 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: intel does not make video cards |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
IGPs for the win |
| 18:19 |
Birdy_ |
Ok so do you think i am dumb |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
my grammar suffers a bit, and I make some typos, but that's all |
| 18:19 |
Brains |
sfan5: Nope. Even if my Radeon HD6950 isn't completely supported (6950/70 specifically has some interesting quirks), I'm pretty happy with the radeon OSS drivers. |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: nope. not dumb. |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
you are only as dumb as you let yourself be. |
| 18:19 |
Birdy_ |
Are you sure? |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
you want to be smart? learn. |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
you want to be dumb, be lazy and stick you nose in video gams all day. |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
the choice is yours alone. |
| 18:20 |
Birdy_ |
Now you are being sassy |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE, Brains: i had to/wanted to set up amd drivers on a linux system once; had to downgrade xorg; 5/10 would not recommend |
| 18:20 |
* Calinou |
is LESSy! |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
</CSS joke> |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
sfan5, Catalyst sucks |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
i know |
| 18:21 |
Brains |
sfan5: I had an nVidia card once, it caught fire. 0/10 would recommend for smores. |
| 18:21 |
Birdy_ |
I hardly |
| 18:21 |
Caleneledh |
I can't use Catalyst. Not supported with my card/xorg combination. OSS drivers work fine for me though. |
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| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: nope. I don't sass. |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
Birdy_: if you interpret my messages as being sass, then you have a preconceived notion about me that you need to reconsider. |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
i think i should just uninstall cuda |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
i don't need it anyway |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
>Gesamtgröße der entfernten Pakete: 1466,15 MiB |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: that's only for mining, BOINC and the like isn't it? |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
my gt 520m sucks for any of those tasks anyway |
| 18:22 |
* VanessaE |
looks at sfan5's LTC balance... ;) |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
and i still have OpenCL |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: 0.0 |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
fun fact, PSA, whatever: the “OSSâ€Â radeon drivers depend on proprietary firmware (no source code) |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
unlike most Nouveau cards which can work without |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
0.0 as in zero not as in O.O |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
Intel has the same problem, but the firmware is on the CPU itself. |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: so I assumed :) |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
so it works on Linux-libre and Debian default |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
no microcode updates, so it'll be slower… |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
i don't like nouveau |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
lol GT 520M |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
joke card |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
it freezes everything on my laptop |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
Nouveau does work here, but is slow |
| 18:25 |
sfan5 |
<Calinou> lol GT 520M |
| 18:25 |
sfan5 |
this laptop is 3 (or 4?) years old |
| 18:25 |
sfan5 |
and that card works well |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
an IGP would be better |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
without causing all the issues of a dedicated card |
| 18:25 |
sfan5 |
my intel cpu has an igp |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
(power usage, heat, hardware failures, …) |
| 18:30 |
ElectronLibre |
(After having caught up all what you said, I just wanted to say that you're totally right VanessaE, only youself can chose your own life and behavior, I'm a real example of that, I'm as boring to people as I want them to think I am in real life and it works, they ignore me ^^.) |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
accidentally tar cvf instead of xvf and now i need to download it again |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
use GUI :P |
| 18:31 |
* ElectronLibre |
gives sfan5 a fish, and a failpoint. |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
ArchLinuxARM-odroid-c1-latest.tar 3%[=> ] 7.22M 821KB/s eta 4m 37s |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
yay |
| 18:32 |
* sfan5 |
sighs |
| 18:33 |
ElectronLibre |
<selfish_speech> VanessaE: I'm incredibly shy so I like to not have people around me, in real life (even if I feel terribly alone), but on the internet I'm more comfortable. That's it. </selfish_speech> |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: I'm not waiting for file-roller to parse the 190MB tar.gz when i already know i just want the folder called "boot" |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
it should be very quick to parse .tar.gz |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
[citation needed] |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
iirc file-roller runs tar tvf which also tests every file |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
call it file-troller, file-proller! |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
(-: |
| 18:35 |
sfan5 |
heh |
| 18:35 |
* fell |
is wondering, why animals_modpack-2.4.2 has a .git directory in factions. |
| 18:41 |
ElectronLibre |
A .git directory means it comes from a git clone or a download from github, but what do you mean by "in factions"? ._. |
| 18:41 |
fell |
In the folder named factions. |
| 18:42 |
ElectronLibre |
Maybe factions is a submodule of animal_modpack I don't remember... |
| 18:42 |
fell |
I assume sapier got the factions module via get |
| 18:43 |
fell |
git |
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ipv6b |
VanessaE, Does this ip address work? 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1 |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
!up 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1 80 |
| 18:58 |
ipv6b |
my pings to it work alright. rubenwardy |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
ping works, ipv6b |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
(using ping6) |
| 18:58 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5, is MinetestBot meant to be offline? |
| 18:59 |
ipv6b |
I'm more interested if according to http://servers.minetest.net/list if I can connect to it. |
| 19:00 |
ipv6b |
That's where I found it as part of "VanessaE's Survival Server" port 30001 |
| 19:01 |
* jin_xi |
really wonders what the 5 myths about leather sofas and furniture are |
| 19:03 |
ipv6b |
When connecting it only says "Conneecting to server..." but nothing else happens. |
| 19:12 |
* ipv6b |
just watched a video about Pandacoin |
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* Polsaker |
thinks that UltimateNate might be gay |
| 19:28 |
ipv6b |
I posted on the relevant forum. Thx for offering IPv6 and if you any time will need help testing it out I'll be willing. Will be back later... :) |
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| 19:44 |
Birdy_ |
Hi |
| 19:45 |
Birdy_ |
:/ |
| 19:46 |
ElectronLibre |
Usually we don't say "Hi" every time we join (again) the channel, don't be sad if you get no answer. |
| 19:46 |
Amaz |
Especially if you only wait under a minute. |
| 19:46 |
ElectronLibre |
Indeed. |
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| 19:48 |
Birdy_ |
k |
| 19:48 |
Krock |
Temporal paradoxon: You kill your mother, what happens? |
| 19:49 |
rdococ |
Krock: You go to jail? |
| 19:49 |
ElectronLibre |
You fall into a new time-line. |
| 19:49 |
Krock |
rdococ, oh sorry. I forgot the part "You travel back im time" |
| 19:49 |
rdococ |
Krock: Yes, I noticed that. |
| 19:49 |
init |
if I travel back in time I wouldn't kill my mother |
| 19:50 |
rdococ |
I'd just do it in the present. |
| 19:50 |
init |
but look look at things like the number of jackpots |
| 19:50 |
ElectronLibre |
Where you exists, but you're not born. |
| 19:50 |
Birdy_ |
Well in general i Dont know how to start coversations and saying hi usually makes it less awkward for me but sorry if that bothers you |
| 19:50 |
init |
it doesn't bother us |
| 19:50 |
ElectronLibre |
You don't bother us, you learn. |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
sorry for driving this channel offtopic but it really needs some activity ;) |
| 19:50 |
rdococ |
Yes, by bothering you guys. |
| 19:50 |
Birdy_ |
than why did you have to say something sassy to make me feel bad |
| 19:50 |
rdococ |
Saying hi every time you join a channel is just social etiquette, anyway. |
| 19:51 |
Birdy_ |
i dont really care |
| 19:51 |
rdococ |
They didn't necessarily do that, but they were a little harsh. |
| 19:51 |
ElectronLibre |
Krock: But what happend if you go in past, and kill you when you were building the machine. You disappear or you're found dead? |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
for i, k in ipairs(IRC_users) do print("Hi "..k") end |
| 19:51 |
Birdy_ |
i feel so judged |
| 19:51 |
ElectronLibre |
About 164 prints, wonderful. |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, it gets more and more complicated |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
the result is: traveling in time is not allowed to be possible, otherwise it causes endless loops :/ |
| 19:52 |
Birdy_ |
why do you say something that always puts me down? |
| 19:52 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, and if before your kitten is sent in a future where kittens have become intelligent and lead the world, and are building a machine to go to the past and kill the creator of the first machine but to test it send this kitten from the beginning which is killed. |
| 19:53 |
Krock |
oh yay! dead kittens |
| 19:53 |
Birdy_ |
what is going on? |
| 19:54 |
rdococ |
What I would say is that whenever you go back in time and do something, it is undone by someone else, causing you to travel back in time again and the exact same thing happens, so there will be no ambiguity in what happened. |
| 19:54 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy_, maybe it's just because I don't mind being insulted so I can't realize how people can be emotional to what I say even if it's not insulting. |
| 19:54 |
Birdy_ |
interesting |
| 19:55 |
Xenoth |
ElectronLibre: That "Kill you when you were building the time machine" creates a paradox, yep. |
| 19:55 |
rdococ |
e.g. If you go back in time and kill your mother, then someone will somehow revive her, and you will have an urge to go back in time again. |
| 19:56 |
rdococ |
If you go back in time and kill yourself as you were building the time machine, you will end up building it, and doing the same thing again. |
| 19:56 |
Birdy_ |
i dont know what to say |
| 19:57 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy_, the first time I heard them speaking of things like those I just shut up and read. |
| 19:57 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh, netsplit. |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
You travel into future, see a disease and go back and tell the people about it. Does the disease happen? |
| 19:57 |
* ElectronLibre |
imagines est31 imagining he is alone in the channel and getting 163 part messages. |
| 19:57 |
Birdy_ |
ok well idk how to just let things be silent |
| 19:58 |
ElectronLibre |
Krock: It may happen that by telling them you make them discover it. |
| 19:58 |
* Xenoth |
teaches Birdy_ "null" |
| 19:58 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 19:58 |
Xenoth |
It's a programming thing, meaning "absolutely nothing" |
| 19:58 |
ElectronLibre |
"Keep calm, and put down your keyboard". |
| 19:58 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, but that already happened in the future |
| 19:58 |
Birdy_ |
i just can't |
| 19:58 |
Xenoth |
ElectronLibre: You see the disease, and tell people about it in your past time, they discover it, therefore creating it. You're seeing the results of your own effects on the timeline. |
| 19:59 |
ElectronLibre |
So Krock, if there is no new timeline created, the disease will happen, if there is one and you started travelling in it, it may happen or not. |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
^ |
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| 19:59 |
Xenoth |
The other idea is that they think you're nuts, and what you say is completely ineffectual. Maybe the psychos in the world are travelers from the future. |
| 19:59 |
ElectronLibre |
Xenoth, exactly what I thought. |
| 19:59 |
Xenoth |
(AKA, you're in a sort of "view-only" mode when you time-travel) |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
Xenoth, interesting idea |
| 20:00 |
Xenoth |
:) |
| 20:00 |
Birdy_ |
so |
| 20:00 |
ElectronLibre |
If you ever travel in time, don't do anything, just look. Be an observer only. |
| 20:00 |
Krock |
sensors would detect you. if they don't, then there's no materia, this means you can't see |
| 20:00 |
Krock |
so it's not a "view-only" thing |
| 20:01 |
ElectronLibre |
It's a "be-only" mode. |
| 20:01 |
Xenoth |
ElectronLibre: But traveling in time means that you did do something D: |
| 20:01 |
Xenoth |
Haha. |
| 20:01 |
ElectronLibre |
After being gone I meant. |
| 20:01 |
ElectronLibre |
EXCEPT being gone, don't do anything. |
| 20:01 |
Xenoth |
The funny thing is that we need teleportation before time-travel - when we pop out on the other timeline, we're creating matter there. |
| 20:02 |
Xenoth |
Unless it destroys your matter in the past. |
| 20:02 |
ElectronLibre |
At least you didn't interfere more in the time/timeline than being in it. |
| 20:02 |
Birdy_ |
Do you like the matrix? |
| 20:02 |
Xenoth |
At which point there's the "Time traveling creates your own timeline of hops" theory. |
| 20:02 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy_, we're in the Matrix. |
| 20:02 |
Xenoth |
We are in the Matrix, yes. |
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| 20:02 |
* ElectronLibre |
gives Birdy_ two pills. |
| 20:02 |
* Xenoth |
looks at the steak... |
| 20:03 |
Birdy_ |
ok |
| 20:03 |
* Xenoth |
realizes something. |
| 20:03 |
ElectronLibre |
The first theory I head was "every chose you make and everything you do creates a new timeline you've not been into". |
| 20:03 |
Birdy_ |
what are you realizing? |
| 20:03 |
* ElectronLibre |
wonders what did Xenoth realize. |
| 20:04 |
Xenoth |
You could never create the paradox of affecting yourself because your matter is no longer there in the past. Unless time works as an infinite amount of frames, each containing it's own matter... |
| 20:04 |
Birdy_ |
Is this your rl |
| 20:05 |
ElectronLibre |
But what if by travelling in time you travel in a new timeline where your matter have been cloned and is still there because you've travelled from another branch of the "time-tree"? |
| 20:05 |
Xenoth |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass states otherwise. |
| 20:05 |
Xenoth |
You can't clone. |
| 20:05 |
Birdy_ |
ill be back later again to say hi |
| 20:06 |
Xenoth |
Bye Birdy_ |
| 20:06 |
ElectronLibre |
So time works with unlimited amount of frames. |
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| 20:06 |
ElectronLibre |
Bye Birdy_. |
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rubenwardy |
Just read the chat. Oh dear. |
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Xenoth |
rubenwardy: :) |
| 20:08 |
ElectronLibre |
rubenwardy, I never would have thought I could some day have a conversation like this one, in english, and on this channel. |
| 20:09 |
* Xenoth |
wonders what will happen a few decades into the future when some history professor finds IRC logs... |
| 20:09 |
Xenoth |
"IRC appeared to be a chat system of sorts, but not by today's definition. Mostly, anyone was free to say anything at anytime. This lead to some very interesting discussions." |
| 20:09 |
JakubVanek |
The "view-only" mode is ghost :-) |
| 20:10 |
Xenoth |
JakubVanek: So maybe time travel kills us instantly! \o/ |
| 20:10 |
ElectronLibre |
You mean after world's destruction bu Oerkkis? |
| 20:10 |
ElectronLibre |
s/bu/by |
| 20:19 |
Xenoth |
Heh |
| 20:21 |
JakubVanek |
does Heisenberg's uncertainty principle apply to minetest source code? |
| 20:22 |
JakubVanek |
it,s about that if you know where particle is, you don't know where it's going |
| 20:23 |
JakubVanek |
s/it,s/it's/ |
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| 20:26 |
Birdy_ |
:) |
| 20:27 |
Birdy_ |
ok |
| 20:27 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 20:27 |
Xenoth |
Hi Birdy_ |
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| 20:28 |
Birdy_ |
Hi |
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| 20:29 |
Birdy_ |
So what are your interests other than this? |
| 20:29 |
Birdy_ |
Hello? |
| 20:30 |
ElectronLibre |
Programming is actually the only thing I do, so let's start with that. |
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Birdy_ |
ok. |
| 20:30 |
Birdy_ |
What do you programm |
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| 20:31 |
Birdy_ |
:/ |
| 20:32 |
ElectronLibre |
I maintain french minetest servers, and I program one or two tiny things behind like a fileseeker program. |
| 20:32 |
Birdy_ |
can you tell me what a fileseeker program is |
| 20:33 |
ElectronLibre |
A program to search files in your computer. |
| 20:33 |
Birdy_ |
oh . okay . what else do you do |
| 20:35 |
ElectronLibre |
My life can be summaried by : "Getting up, go to school, eat, go back from school, doing homework, programming, sleeping", so I would say nothing else apart from studying. |
| 20:35 |
Birdy_ |
wow what a nice life? |
| 20:36 |
ElectronLibre |
The (s)hell it is. |
| 20:37 |
Birdy_ |
ok? so idk if i should ask but whats your age. ? |
| 20:37 |
ElectronLibre |
A completly pointless, worthless and useless life. |
| 20:37 |
ElectronLibre |
I can PM it to you. (Private Message) |
| 20:37 |
Birdy_ |
ok then |
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| 20:39 |
ElectronLibre |
Look at potential pop-up windows, tabs or something to see PMs. |
| 20:40 |
Birdy_ |
dont see nothing |
| 20:40 |
ElectronLibre |
Hmm, look well, and maybe I can try to create this window. |
| 20:41 |
Birdy_ |
ok |
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| 20:42 |
ElectronLibre |
I sent you another PM search if there is a new tab/window. |
| 20:42 |
ElectronLibre |
(in your browser) |
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ElectronLibre |
Sorry connection's crash. |
| 20:42 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 20:43 |
Birdy_ |
so new topic |
| 20:43 |
ElectronLibre |
I had to disconnect and reconnect I was sending datas without any answer from the server. I said that I've sent you another PM, search in your browser and current tab if there is something new. |
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| 20:44 |
Birdy_ |
nothing |
| 20:45 |
Birdy_ |
now what |
| 20:45 |
ElectronLibre |
It starts by a 1. And finishes by a 3. |
| 20:45 |
Birdy_ |
? |
| 20:45 |
ElectronLibre |
(What I was sending you) |
| 20:46 |
ElectronLibre |
And there is a half of year with it. So, indeed, now what? |
| 20:46 |
Birdy_ |
im XV |
| 20:46 |
ElectronLibre |
Roman numbers, not a bad idea. |
| 20:47 |
Birdy_ |
yeah found interest in it |
| 20:47 |
ElectronLibre |
There is more complicated, like the Egyptian one. |
| 20:48 |
Birdy_ |
how |
| 20:48 |
ElectronLibre |
s/is/are |
| 20:48 |
Birdy_ |
? |
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Birdy_ |
in rl what are you doing |
| 20:49 |
ElectronLibre |
In the Egyptian numbers' system, you have to draw a little symbol for each column of an indian-number. 8 means 8 symbols for this column, 0 means no symbol. |
| 20:49 |
ElectronLibre |
Nothing interesting enough to be written. |
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JakubVanek |
what about octal numbers |
| 20:50 |
ElectronLibre |
These are cool indeed, and binary ones are just wonderful. |
| 20:50 |
Birdy_ |
ok |
| 20:51 |
ElectronLibre |
I remember last time I tried to explain what is an octal number to someone in my class, their brain was melting xD |
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| 20:51 |
Birdy__ |
ok |
| 20:52 |
Birdy__ |
what type of music do you listen too |
| 20:53 |
Birdy__ |
? |
| 20:53 |
ElectronLibre |
Russian folk and traditional music. |
| 20:54 |
Birdy__ |
thats different |
| 20:54 |
ElectronLibre |
And sometimes "The elements' song". |
| 20:55 |
Birdy__ |
i listen to indie rock mostly and some pop |
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JakubVanek |
I'll try linux kernel source code, but i think it will hurt... i don't like C and it will definitely not sound like pop |
| 20:57 |
* Birdy__ |
the silnce bothers me |
| 20:57 |
Birdy__ |
oh |
| 20:57 |
ElectronLibre |
Even compiling it is a pain, I tried once, and after 1 hour filling the questions before compiling, I gave up. |
| 20:58 |
Birdy__ |
have no idea what that means |
| 21:00 |
Birdy__ |
so you like the silence i see |
| 21:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Yep. |
| 21:00 |
Birdy__ |
:/ |
| 21:01 |
Birdy__ |
i guess i require too much attention |
| 21:01 |
JakubVanek |
compilation is translation from source code to machine code. compiler is program that does it for you. |
| 21:01 |
Birdy__ |
good to know |
| 21:01 |
init |
compilation is translation between programming languages |
| 21:01 |
ElectronLibre |
I think I know where you could be happy to speak with other kids/teens, related to minetest, but without any programmer. I could send you a link to another irc network where are hosted most of the minetest-irc channels. |
| 21:02 |
* ElectronLibre |
see init and starts typing "sudo init 0" |
| 21:02 |
* init |
kills ElectronLibre |
| 21:02 |
Birdy__ |
tbh i dont relate to minetest |
| 21:02 |
* ElectronLibre |
have been downgraded to bootlevel 0 *cryes* |
| 21:02 |
init |
cries*? has been*? |
| 21:03 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, my english is horribly bad. |
| 21:03 |
ElectronLibre |
And I was already thinking about what I'm going to type and send to Birdy__. |
| 21:03 |
Birdy__ |
so. i dont mind |
| 21:04 |
Birdy__ |
the on,y reason i am on this to get to know people not minetest |
| 21:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Anyway, Birdy__ you should be happy there : webchat.inchra.net (channel : #minetest) (sorry but Birdy__ can't read PMs I have to write it here) |
| 21:04 |
ElectronLibre |
^ This is more about people. |
| 21:05 |
ElectronLibre |
And you can still play with them. |
| 21:05 |
Birdy__ |
i can tell . i tend to spill my personal life to peoplevon minetest annoying them |
| 21:06 |
ElectronLibre |
(I deducted that a while ago to be honest) |
| 21:06 |
init |
JakubVanek: for what it is worth, 'compiling' directly to machine code for any high-level language is pretty much a thing that nobody wants to do |
| 21:07 |
Birdy__ |
i know . im surprised that i would find people here that actually talk |
| 21:08 |
JakubVanek |
well, i can't compile bash |
| 21:08 |
Birdy__ |
oh . |
| 21:08 |
init |
what's the problem? |
| 21:08 |
JakubVanek |
*bash scripts |
| 21:09 |
Birdy__ |
what problem |
| 21:09 |
init |
JakubVanek: you could compile them |
| 21:09 |
Birdy__ |
? |
| 21:10 |
Birdy__ |
i need to meet someone thats just as interested in people as i am . |
| 21:10 |
JakubVanek |
oh, i didn't know that |
| 21:10 |
init |
that's actually a cool idea |
| 21:11 |
Birdy__ |
what idea |
| 21:11 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy__, use the link I gave you, you will meet people, I can ensure you. |
| 21:11 |
Birdy__ |
what link . Who will i meet? |
| 21:12 |
JakubVanek |
>>(ElectronLibre) Anyway, Birdy__ you should be happy there : webchat.inchra.net (channel : #minetest) (sorry but Birdy__ can't read PMs I have to write it here) |
| 21:12 |
ElectronLibre |
Thanks. |
| 21:12 |
Birdy__ |
? |
| 21:12 |
ElectronLibre |
People, kids, teens, players from minetest, etc.. |
| 21:13 |
ElectronLibre |
http://webchat.inchra.net <= THIS link. |
| 21:13 |
Birdy__ |
thats a little risky |
| 21:14 |
ElectronLibre |
I know them, and there will be VanessaE and some admins to keep the channel running well. |
| 21:15 |
Birdy__ |
someone had told me to there before only i forgot |
| 21:18 |
Xenoth |
I'm an admin there. |
| 21:18 |
Birdy__ |
ok |
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Birdy__ |
so |
| 21:24 |
Birdy__ |
the coversation went dull |
| 21:24 |
ElectronLibre |
So I can see you're in the channel, good. |
| 21:25 |
Birdy__ |
yeah only its not interesting |
| 21:26 |
Birdy__ |
im trying to fold clothes only i get distracted |
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Birdy__ |
? |
| 21:27 |
ElectronLibre |
No just a ghost of yours that has been disconnected. |
| 21:28 |
Birdy__ |
saw that . |
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Birdy__ |
think ima adopt some pet when i go off to college |
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Birdy__ |
? |
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Birdy__ |
ugh im dying |
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ElectronLibre |
I don't want to be rude or anything, but first we don't need the channel to be always active, and you've been out of topic for the whole time you've been there.. :/ |
| 21:33 |
Birdy__ |
feel judged |
| 21:33 |
Nytram |
welcome to irc. ;) |
| 21:34 |
Birdy__ |
hi |
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Calinou |
http://cloudkickermusic.com/ |
| 21:34 |
Calinou |
Birdy__, ^ if you like indie music |
| 21:34 |
Calinou |
all free, various formats including FLAC |
| 21:34 |
Birdy__ |
cool thx |
| 21:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Don't be judged, you're not a bad person, you're just no in the best place to speak about usual teen things, life and all these stuff. |
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* init |
hugs ElectronLibre |
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ElectronLibre |
s/teen/teen's |
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* ElectronLibre |
hugs init back |
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Birdy__ |
:/ |
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Birdy__ |
i dont know what ima do with my life |
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Birdy__ |
? |
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JakubVanek |
no upstart user :/ but sysvinit is good for systems like raspbian |
| 21:38 |
Nytram |
Live it and don't live in the past or the past becomes your present. |
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Birdy__ |
i have nothing |
| 21:38 |
ElectronLibre |
Birdy__, on my side, I just know that if my life keep going like it is know, I will probably hang myself or die from loneliness before beeing 16. Don't worry and keep being. |
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Birdy__ |
i overthink everything though |
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Nytram |
I walked past a guy sat on the pavement outside WH Smiths. I went inside and bought myself the latest Linux Format and walked past the guy again. I didn't give him any money or even but him a burger, because it's his choice to be there. |
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Birdy__ |
o |
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Nytram |
If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got. |
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Birdy__ |
am i too much |
| 21:41 |
ElectronLibre |
Nothing new done, nothing new got. |
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Birdy__ |
:( |
| 21:42 |
ElectronLibre |
Which actually describes my life perfectly. |
| 21:42 |
JakubVanek |
android multitasling on phone with 256mb ram and 1.5GHz processor is painful... |
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Nytram |
If you need to ask other people what you should do you then perhaps you need to turn your view inward. |
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Birdy__ |
complicted describes my life |
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Nytram |
hahah JakubVanek interjects with some techy sense. I feel your pain, I bricked a few test phones. |
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Birdy__ |
so |
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Birdy__ |
now what |
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ElectronLibre |
Now let's stop writing and look at these beautiful part/join messages. |
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* Calinou |
hides them |
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Birdy__ |
sure |
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tim_flatus |
signs_lib - I'm using the version from BFD, which may be a mistake :-/ The text disappeared. Then if I interact with the sign I get the text proud of the sign by nearly a node. Is this a known issue? |
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tim_flatus |
I shall try the version from Dreambuilder. I don't want the whole of homedecor. Is there anything else I should know at this stage? |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
only that I've nevber tried using homedecor's signs_lib in BFD. |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
but it works fine in vanilla mt_game |
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tim_flatus |
I notice yours is configured to overwrite default:sign_wall, which is the behaviour I want anyway. :-) |
| 23:13 |
DFeniks |
can liquids flow in something else than air naturally? im thinking if method how its done in moontest is only way (by removing nodes around source) |
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VanessaE |
DFeniks: no, only air |
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VanessaE |
(or other airlike nodes maybe?) |
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tim_flatus |
This isn't default MT. I have rearranged default, but it needs to be compatible. If no known issues then it's a bug I've introduced somehow. |
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tim_flatus |
Thanks |
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DFeniks |
^actually group:liquid , not just source |
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tim_flatus |
That's very odd |
| 23:35 |
tim_flatus |
All the locked signs have reoriented themselves :/ |
| 23:36 |
tim_flatus |
I guess I'm just going to have to rewrite them all. Unless signs_lib supports cut|copy|paste? |
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* tim_flatus |
is a hopeful kind of person. |
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* tim_flatus |
goes to look for some documentation (see above) |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
the signs_lib signs aren't "wallmounted" is why they re-oriented themselves |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
at the time the mod was written, this wasn't possible. |
| 23:41 |
tim_flatus |
I have tried using a screwdriver on them. They go anywhere but flat against the wall. This sort of explains why the text was misplaced. |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
I suppose I could change that now but it'll break everything |
| 23:41 |
tim_flatus |
No, I can roll with it. |
| 23:41 |
tim_flatus |
Just asking in case you knew any useful tricks. |
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| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
nope :) |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
lots of clicks with the screwdriver to re-orient them :P |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
unless you want me to fix it |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
(the fix will use wallmounted mesh nodes similar to what default signs now use) |
