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hoodedice |
kaeza! |
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hoodedice |
awake so late? |
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kaeza |
eh? it's only 23:44 |
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kaeza |
"only" |
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hoodedice |
> 23:44 |
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shadowzone |
XD |
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hoodedice |
> you're from South 'Merica? |
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hoodedice |
I thought you were from europe |
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hoodedice |
wait |
01:49 |
* hoodedice |
sucks at time related things |
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kaeza |
GMT-3 |
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hoodedice |
...not sure if that is in the middle of the atlantic or where... |
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hoodedice |
Greenland?! |
01:52 |
hoodedice |
oh, South America after all |
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exio4 |
kaeza, more like 11:00? |
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kaeza |
DST |
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kaeza |
...or something |
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kaeza |
hoodedice, functions and methods are the same thing, except it is called a "method" when it is applied to an object using the foo:method notation |
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hoodedice |
but I see that C# calls what java calls a method, a function |
02:11 |
hoodedice |
rephrase: C# calls a function, the same thing what java calls a method |
02:12 |
hoodedice |
so what exactly is the difference? function is applied to a var, method is applied to the object? |
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kaeza |
for all practical purposes, it doesnt matter |
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hoodedice |
...ok. |
02:13 |
kaeza |
a method is a function called on an object; if you have an object 'o' and it has a field 'f' which is a function, it is said that 'f' is a method of 'o' |
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hoodedice |
function TwoPlusSquare (in) /n return in * in + 2 /n end (/n is newline) |
02:14 |
kaeza |
you should probably consult a WP article or something for the formal definition |
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hoodedice |
is ^ legal? |
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kaeza |
no, it is illegal. the FBI is now after you |
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hoodedice |
okay. |
02:17 |
hoodedice |
As a non-american citizen in Murica, that is actually somehting that can happen to me. So, not funny |
02:18 |
kaeza |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_(computer_programming) |
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kaeza |
BTW, your code would be "illegal" or "not valid" Lua because it uses "in", which is a reserved keyword, as a variable name |
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kaeza |
also, that would be called a "function", because it is not associated with an object |
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hoodedice |
okay, thanks |
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hoodedice |
bbl |
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shadowzone |
bye |
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hmmmm |
you know there's been a huge push to add doxygen comments to the core |
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hmmmm |
shouldn't the lua api be the first thing to get documented instead? |
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hmmmm |
it has a library-like interface and would maximally benefit from doxygen-style documentation |
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VanessaE |
um, it is documented? |
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hmmmm |
it is? |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
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VanessaE |
unless you mean more than this. |
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hmmmm |
oh |
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hmmmm |
i thought that was an attempt at comedy |
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hmmmm |
stuff that bad doesn't count as documentation |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
well I have referred to the lua doc as a 'travesty' before |
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VanessaE |
mostly because it's so terse |
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Zeno` |
maybe someone should do it |
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hmmmm |
the people who want it done are the ones busy doing other things |
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Zeno` |
it won't get done then :D |
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hmmmm |
i already have plans to work over christmas break on a lua api unittest mod to be included as part of minimal |
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hmmmm |
i call it - minetesttest |
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Zeno` |
why not testoftheminetesttest |
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hmmmm |
test_of_minetest |
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VanessaE |
hmmmm: such a package exists already. it's called Dreambuilder ;) |
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VanessaE |
I'm pretty sure with the shitton of mods in that game, most of the API gets used :) |
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hmmmm |
vanessae, i want something that's a part of minimal and something that can be run automatically |
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hmmmm |
hehe, i think i came up with a winner of an interface for NodeResolver 2.0: http://fpaste.org/160437/41878537/ |
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VanessaE |
jeez, when I try to be serious, it's called a joke. I try to make a joke and it's taken seriously. I give up :P |
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VanessaE |
I can't win for losing (and I probably couldn't lose for winning, either :P ) |
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FreeFull |
Pro tip: use coal blocks to make your bread |
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catninja |
I think my landlord would complain |
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FreeFull |
Your minetest landlord? |
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pro tip automate it all with pipeworks and technic and always have enough bread whenever you need some |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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Zeno` |
nobody is awake |
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Zeno` |
they are in eternal sleep |
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hoodedice |
ayyy morning people! |
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Zeno` |
'shrooms! |
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exio4 |
Zeno`, some people is just dead |
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n4x |
systemd is one of the best things in the world |
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n4x |
I mean, really! who wouldn't like something that doesn't work correctly? |
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marktraceur |
n4x: Sigh. |
14:28 |
n4x |
had to restart my system for getting it working |
14:28 |
marktraceur |
I was going to make an impassioned and eloquent plea to keep the channel on-topic and avoiding drama, but I'm so damn tired of it all, I can only sigh. |
14:28 |
jin_xi |
yes keep this channel pure... |
14:29 |
n4x |
we're using C++ for the code, and that language ain't pure! |
14:29 |
* jin_xi |
is on fedora |
14:29 |
* shadowzone |
is on windows |
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shadowzone |
I say that and proller joins |
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shadowzone |
maybe if I say it again he'll leave |
14:30 |
shadowzone |
I dunno |
14:31 |
marktraceur |
If you say it three times, Bill Gates will materialize in your house. |
14:32 |
marktraceur |
And start padlocking your cabinets. |
14:32 |
shadowzone |
hmmm, better not say it then. |
14:32 |
shadowzone |
I did that when the ISIS thing started. |
14:32 |
marktraceur |
Padlocked your cabinets? |
14:33 |
shadowzone |
Yep |
14:34 |
marktraceur |
I was thinking of getting the ISIL flag and sticking it in mutton. Islamic State in Iraq of Lamb. |
14:34 |
shadowzone |
Lol |
14:35 |
jin_xi |
but keeping this channel pure is a more pressing issue of course |
14:35 |
shadowzone |
jin_xi, wot? |
14:35 |
marktraceur |
jin_xi: Obviously not :) |
14:35 |
marktraceur |
I'm just using my preferred form of impurity while we're here. |
14:35 |
jin_xi |
im using systemd to chat here |
14:35 |
jin_xi |
all new irc module |
14:35 |
marktraceur |
Liar. :) |
14:35 |
Zeno` |
I don't mind systemd |
14:35 |
marktraceur |
2014-12-17 - 08:35:47 CTCP VERSION reply from jin_xi: irssi v0.8.15 - running on Linux x86_64 |
14:36 |
shadowzone |
irssi |
14:36 |
n4x |
I didn't mind it either, but it doesn't work Zeno` |
14:36 |
shadowzone |
*barfs* |
14:36 |
marktraceur |
shadowzone: Shut your whore mouth. |
14:36 |
jin_xi |
spoofing user agent with all new stealth securityd |
14:36 |
shadowzone |
Lol |
14:36 |
shadowzone |
I use hexchat |
14:36 |
shadowzone |
muchs nicer |
14:36 |
shadowzone |
*much |
14:36 |
n4x |
it is crap |
14:36 |
n4x |
I am using it on my desktop because I am lazy though |
14:36 |
n4x |
good enough |
14:37 |
Zeno` |
systemd vs. init is flamewar material hehe |
14:37 |
marktraceur |
It's the only way I can has persistent connections that don't suck |
14:37 |
marktraceur |
My friends who have ZNC bouncers...they miss too much conversation |
14:37 |
marktraceur |
I can come back and read all the scrollback. :) |
14:37 |
n4x |
I didn't like systemd, I used it and because "it just worked" I didn't mind it, after a month of normal usage, it basically didn't work until I had to reboot |
14:37 |
Zeno` |
speaking of which, vim is obviously the better editor |
14:38 |
jin_xi |
i find other init systems irc support lacking |
14:38 |
Zeno` |
lol jin_xi |
14:38 |
n4x |
systemd is materialized skynet |
14:38 |
marktraceur |
So how bout them minetests? |
14:38 |
n4x |
it is all over your system, if someday you get an AI in the systemd core, it'll be able to control about 99% of the system |
14:38 |
Zeno` |
minetest is not a very good text editor at all |
14:39 |
marktraceur |
jin_xi: Tried emacs? :) |
14:39 |
n4x |
emacs isn't either |
14:39 |
jin_xi |
marktraceur: why bother, it will be included with the all new minit system |
14:39 |
shadowzone |
I might try emacs |
14:39 |
shadowzone |
I've heard it's good |
14:39 |
n4x |
I've heard the same about systemd |
14:39 |
jin_xi |
also yes i use emacs |
14:39 |
n4x |
hint: it isn't |
14:39 |
n4x |
(systemd) |
14:39 |
jin_xi |
and vim |
14:40 |
Zeno` |
n4x, what's wrong with it? |
14:40 |
n4x |
so far, all I had were problems |
14:40 |
n4x |
stuff doesn't work, it crashes and I need to reboot my system |
14:40 |
Zeno` |
it's open source, you can fix it |
14:40 |
* shadowzone |
glares at ShadowBot and feels like spamming |
14:40 |
n4x |
I am not going to fix it, they sell it as THE thing, and there are other things that already work |
14:41 |
n4x |
after I finish upgrading my system, I'll remove it, and lock all the packages with systemd in their names |
14:41 |
Zeno` |
X11 already works |
14:41 |
Zeno` |
it doesn't mean I don't wait for Wayland |
14:41 |
n4x |
systemd didn't do anything new |
14:41 |
n4x |
Wayland is a hipster thing that does a new cool thing, systemd is 1% new features, 99% NIH |
14:42 |
n4x |
some concepts are good, but please, why do you have to takeover everything that works and rewrite it for the sake of doing it? |
14:42 |
Zeno` |
Sounds like minetest |
14:43 |
Zeno` |
We should just stick with how minetest already is! |
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n4x |
minetest isn't considered stable, and production-ready, is it? |
14:44 |
Zeno` |
Lua is stable |
14:44 |
n4x |
systemd developers have been selling it as the thing that works and does everything right compared to anything because it does everything by itself! and it is modular! you have 4000 binaries, where if you need one of those, you'll probably need 300 too, so it isn't that modular |
14:47 |
sol_invictus |
n4x: have you already donated bitcoins to hire an assassin for the systemd devs? |
14:47 |
n4x |
err. no, I haven't, I totally didn't do that, I mean, what are you talking about? |
14:48 |
sol_invictus |
I heard some people wanted to start a camplaing |
14:48 |
sol_invictus |
that would be a great thing to do |
14:48 |
jin_xi |
just use minix now |
14:48 |
jin_xi |
no need to kill |
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exio4 |
jin_xi: their work has been being dedicated to kill software that works and replace it with half-baked crap |
14:55 |
exio4 |
it isn't killing, but getting back stuff that works |
14:57 |
Zeno` |
geez |
14:58 |
Zeno` |
nobody is stopping anybody from using initv scripts :/ |
14:58 |
sol_invictus |
tell me more |
14:58 |
exio4 |
systemd developers work harder at doing that |
14:58 |
sol_invictus |
I tried to get back sysvinit on my debian and I failed |
14:59 |
sol_invictus |
now it's half broken |
14:59 |
exio4 |
you're always free to use another distro! |
14:59 |
exio4 |
and switch to windows too! |
14:59 |
* gravgun |
makes custom distro with custom init, problem solved |
14:59 |
Zeno` |
I find threatening developers quite sickening |
14:59 |
exio4 |
I like some concepts out of systemd, but the implementation and their way of doing this the worst thing anyone could ever imagine |
15:00 |
Zeno` |
if you can do better then make your distro |
15:00 |
Zeno` |
nobody is stopping you |
15:00 |
Zeno` |
just do it |
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exio4 |
I'd switch to gentoo, but still |
15:01 |
Zeno` |
no, not "but still" |
15:01 |
Zeno` |
if you're so passionate you should do it |
15:01 |
exio4 |
your solution is like telling "linux sucks, you can switch to windows" |
15:01 |
Zeno` |
no it's not |
15:01 |
exio4 |
it is, duh |
15:01 |
sol_invictus |
I did switch, but still |
15:02 |
Zeno` |
my solution is that if you don't like something and that something can be fixed then do it! |
15:02 |
exio4 |
systemd is a regression |
15:02 |
exio4 |
"stuff has been working for N years, something appears, stuff breaks, get something else" |
15:02 |
Zeno` |
exio4, if it's a regression it will lose in the long run |
15:02 |
Zeno` |
that |
15:02 |
Zeno` |
that's how things work |
15:03 |
exio4 |
yes, long run |
15:03 |
shadowzone |
I am using windows for the time being |
15:03 |
Zeno` |
exio4, but you can fix it |
15:03 |
exio4 |
how could I fix it? |
15:03 |
exio4 |
starting a new distro? it isn't something a single person can do, it is like saying "you don't like the kernel? write your own!" |
15:04 |
Zeno` |
by making your own distro, or forking from an established distro just before it was mergered |
15:04 |
Zeno` |
*shrug* |
15:04 |
Zeno` |
the option is there |
15:04 |
exio4 |
it isn't a real option |
15:04 |
Zeno` |
of course it's a real option |
15:05 |
sol_invictus |
it wouldn't be a problem if the systemd devs weren'ttrying to push it anywhere they can |
15:05 |
exio4 |
that too |
15:05 |
exio4 |
systemd devs should work at marketing, not being developers |
15:05 |
Zeno` |
so why aren't the major distros objecting to it? |
15:05 |
exio4 |
because major distros are either, under the influence of redhat, or because the system devs are in the "admin team" |
15:05 |
Zeno` |
lol |
15:06 |
Zeno` |
debian is influenced by redhat? |
15:06 |
sol_invictus |
of course |
15:06 |
exio4 |
their "main" team is filled with systemd devs and fans |
15:06 |
exio4 |
I would say it counts as that |
15:06 |
exio4 |
it is like debian and ffmpeg |
15:07 |
exio4 |
your solution are "well, if you don't like the new hispter thing that is everywhere, start your own" |
15:07 |
Zeno` |
well, if you're not willing to put in your own time to change this I guess nothing will happen |
15:08 |
Zeno` |
it's not impossible |
15:08 |
Zeno` |
I think that sometimes people are scared of change |
15:09 |
exio4 |
I already said I like systemd concepts |
15:09 |
Zeno` |
Which is only human of course |
15:09 |
exio4 |
I wish I could have a cool init system |
15:09 |
exio4 |
that did those things |
15:09 |
exio4 |
but systemd is basically a catch-all program that replaces 27 of 30 parts |
15:09 |
exio4 |
where only one of those is the init system |
15:10 |
Zeno` |
Well, you can't have cool things unless you're willing to wait (or make the cool things yourself) |
15:10 |
exio4 |
systemd devs pushed it everywhere |
15:10 |
sol_invictus |
I wonder, is anyone happy with pulseaudio? |
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exio4 |
I am not |
15:10 |
Zeno` |
exio4, they pushed it... nobody was forced to accept it |
15:11 |
exio4 |
Zeno`: if you have a monopoly (of opinion), what you said is always the majority |
15:13 |
sol_invictus |
Zeno`: btw that argument about major distros... some debian devs loft the team after systemd was accepted |
15:13 |
exio4 |
and some debian devs have resigned |
15:13 |
gravgun |
exio4: devuan? |
15:14 |
exio4 |
cool, haven't heard of it, I mostly saw single-app replacements |
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15:17 |
Zeno` |
sol_invictus, and they forked it |
15:17 |
Zeno` |
this was the right thing to do |
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sol_invictus |
Zeno`: are there any proves it was them? |
15:18 |
Zeno` |
sol_invictus, only that their names are the ones in the fork ;) |
15:18 |
Zeno` |
if the fork prevails then it will become mainstream |
15:19 |
Zeno` |
see the gcc vs egcc thing |
15:19 |
sol_invictus |
both debian and devuan has silly names \: |
15:20 |
Zeno` |
egcs* |
15:21 |
Zeno` |
egcs got merged back into gcc |
15:21 |
Zeno` |
who knows... if systemd is so bad then devuan will get merged back into debian |
15:23 |
exio4 |
if windows is so bad, why is it used everywhere? |
15:23 |
shadowzone |
exio4, cause it's not that bad |
15:23 |
shadowzone |
I don't care which OS I use as long as I have one |
15:24 |
exio4 |
the only argument in favor of windows, is third-party software, games |
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DevilRomeo2 |
i am really dissapointed |
15:28 |
exio4 |
me too |
15:28 |
exio4 |
we should hug |
15:28 |
DevilRomeo2 |
very dissapointed of Xandu Server |
15:29 |
DevilRomeo2 |
Titan one of the staff member remove my priv and kicked me for no reason i did not even troll or swear i did not break the rules this staff is abusing his power |
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sol_invictus |
surprisingly, that's not the first time I hear a story like that about xanadu |
15:30 |
DevilRomeo2 |
swag |
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DevilRomeo2 |
TESTING 12 |
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DevilRomeo2 |
ssss |
15:40 |
marktraceur |
DevilRomeo2: Hush |
15:40 |
marktraceur |
You'll wake the baby |
15:41 |
DevilRomeo2 |
huh |
15:41 |
DevilRomeo2 |
you cant shush me :P |
15:41 |
shadowzone |
DevilRomeo2, type /server isis.inchra.net |
15:41 |
shadowzone |
then type /join #minetest |
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15:51 |
hoodedice |
IDEA: An option to permanently download all server assets |
15:52 |
CWz |
there is a cache folder which all of the textures and stuff is stored |
15:55 |
hoodedice |
well |
15:55 |
hoodedice |
in non-cached form |
15:55 |
hoodedice |
also, sfan5! RC wielditems are messed up |
15:55 |
hoodedice |
including hand |
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kaeza |
RC? |
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* exio4 |
hugs kaeza |
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* kaeza |
hugs exio4 back |
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exio4 |
how is it going kaeza! |
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kaeza |
good I guess :P |
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hoodedice |
cold milk in winter is a bad idea |
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exio4 |
hi |
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17:24 |
rubenwardy |
Yo! |
17:24 |
rubenwardy |
Wat up, birches? |
17:24 |
Calinou |
hi |
17:25 |
Zeno` |
Calinou, 1984 is more of a feature right? |
17:25 |
Zeno` |
so it should probably wait until after 0.4.11 |
17:25 |
Calinou |
my PR is purely a fix |
17:25 |
Calinou |
wtf |
17:25 |
Zeno` |
fix? |
17:25 |
Calinou |
a one-line change like that has to wait after 0.4.11? |
17:26 |
Zeno` |
is testsounds/ a bug? |
17:26 |
Calinou |
it fixes something awkward |
17:27 |
Calinou |
it shouldn't have “test†in its name |
17:27 |
Zeno` |
this whole thing is awkward hehe |
17:27 |
Zeno` |
(I agree with you btw) |
17:27 |
gravgun |
>implying whole MT code is not awkward |
17:28 |
* gravgun |
gets out |
17:28 |
CWz |
hey Zeno` |
17:29 |
Zeno` |
hi Cwz :) |
17:29 |
marktraceur |
Has anyone had any trouble with time_speed? |
17:29 |
marktraceur |
I wanted to set it to 0 but it doesn't appear to work. |
17:30 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, /set -n time_speed 0 |
17:32 |
marktraceur |
Thanks :) |
17:33 |
marktraceur |
I got tired of typing /time 5800 :) |
17:33 |
MinetestBot |
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Do not allow the m_transforming_liquid queue to increase until all RAM is consumed 082256a http://git.io/JIUsgg (2014-12-18T03:32:19+10:00) |
17:36 |
rubenwardy |
<Calinou> it shouldn't have “test†in its name |
17:36 |
rubenwardy |
Hmmm |
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kaeza |
mine_game? <_< |
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Jordach |
dammit dammit dammit |
17:51 |
Krock |
yes. Hi. |
17:51 |
* Jordach |
ordered presents |
17:51 |
Jordach |
turns up tomorrow |
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17:52 |
Jordach |
and nobody is here, except it'll be at the post office for me to collect tomorrow |
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17:56 |
hoodedice |
uncle got a smart TV with 4k res |
17:56 |
hoodedice |
installed it right in the next room |
17:56 |
hoodedice |
it uses Wifi. |
17:57 |
hoodedice |
My laptop also uses WiFi. It has a Realtek 8188EE. |
17:57 |
hoodedice |
tl;dr I can't play LoL anymore. |
17:58 |
Krock |
Flash player crashed |
17:58 |
Krock |
\o/ |
17:58 |
hoodedice |
MFW I can't play League because my 2 year old cousin is watching Handy Manny |
17:58 |
hoodedice |
Flash is eil |
17:58 |
hoodedice |
*evil |
17:58 |
Calinou |
(-: |
17:58 |
hoodedice |
(jk) |
17:59 |
hoodedice |
^how to make Calinou mad. |
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18:00 |
hoodedice |
MFW I will now spend my whole day listening to kiddy songs because my headphone is open ended and I can't listen to music because my ears hurt anyway |
18:00 |
marktraceur |
I can't see your face at all |
18:00 |
hoodedice |
there should be a #rant |
18:00 |
marktraceur |
There is, /join #fsf |
18:00 |
Jordach |
zing |
18:00 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, i *may* eventually donate :P |
18:00 |
Jordach |
ISIC card 4 lyfe |
18:01 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: That would be cool of you! The foundation is great. |
18:01 |
hoodedice |
thanks marktraceur! /s |
18:02 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, i can agree (if they were a bit more supporting of non-free in certain conditions where it would be impossible, ala pushing Gaming on Linux via Valve) |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
"impossible" is a relative term. |
18:02 |
Jordach |
considering how Windows is a primary platform for it? yes. |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Certain members of the community are more or less supportive of compromising with non-free software in certain places. |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Gaming, I think, is one place where it's silly to compromise |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
*most* of the time. |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
Console gaming is more of an issue |
18:03 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, been using FOSS in my Creative IT course instead of Adobe junk |
18:03 |
hoodedice |
*facepalm* |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
Neat. |
18:03 |
Jordach |
(Blender, Krita, GIMP, Inkscape) |
18:03 |
hoodedice |
gaming is relevant #gamergate |
18:03 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, consoles suck anyways |
18:03 |
hoodedice |
^ |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Nuh uhhhh |
18:04 |
hoodedice |
^peasant. |
18:04 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, older consoles from 1985-2004 |
18:04 |
Calinou |
Jordach, cool |
18:04 |
hoodedice |
<MinetestBot> marktraceur is a peasant |
18:04 |
Jordach |
those are fine, but these new ones? oh fuck no (read; i want to play games, not sit there waiting for patches and other BS to download) |
18:04 |
marktraceur |
hoodedice: It's true. |
18:04 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> Jordach: Gaming, I think, is one place where it's silly to compromise |
18:05 |
Calinou |
indeed; free gaming is possible |
18:05 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: So...PS2? :) |
18:05 |
hoodedice |
<MinetestBot> marktraceur is a filthy console peasant |
18:05 |
Calinou |
people compromise out of comfort as usual |
18:05 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, i can't argue with one of the best consoles of all time |
18:05 |
hoodedice |
<MinetestBot> #PCMasterRace |
18:05 |
Jordach |
i even have a modified PS2 controller that works on PC/Linux |
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18:06 |
Jordach |
i might also try out Debian with Steam just to see how well my 750ti performs |
18:06 |
hoodedice |
https://privatepaste.com/e83bb11153/wtf |
18:06 |
hoodedice |
> PS2 controller |
18:06 |
hoodedice |
#PS4controllerMasterRace |
18:06 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, busted my 360 troller |
18:07 |
marktraceur |
hoodedice: What the hell, dude. |
18:07 |
Jordach |
(the wiring got torn apart inside the protective cable around it when getting rolled under my chairs wheels) |
18:08 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, you know what's saddening? |
18:08 |
Jordach |
OpenShot 2.0 promised Windows, Mac and Linux support, and it's gone MIA since the kickstarter |
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18:10 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: So what does it support, OpenBSD? |
18:10 |
marktraceur |
LoseThos? |
18:10 |
marktraceur |
DOS? |
18:10 |
marktraceur |
XBMC? |
18:11 |
marktraceur |
LibreWRT? |
18:11 |
hoodedice |
marktraceur: https://privatepaste.com/abe52bcc05/1212121 |
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18:12 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, it supports Linux only |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Ah. |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
hoodedice: #fsf has enough trolls without you |
18:12 |
hoodedice |
well |
18:12 |
hoodedice |
you were the one who told me to go there. |
18:12 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, i still want the KDE project to put KDEnLive on Windows systems |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
hoodedice: No I didn't. |
18:13 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: And how. I haven't used it in a while, though. |
18:13 |
hoodedice |
[13:00:35] <marktraceur> There is, /join #fsf |
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18:13 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, there's a probject to put the best KDE software onto Win systems |
18:13 |
Jordach |
https://windows.kde.org/download.php |
18:14 |
marktraceur |
> probject |
18:14 |
marktraceur |
I like it. |
18:14 |
Calinou |
that project is pretty much secondary in their to-do list |
18:14 |
marktraceur |
I'd imagine so, it's hard enough getting traction among GNU/Linux users for KDE |
18:14 |
* Calinou |
is not a KDE user :) |
18:16 |
* gravgun |
is using Quassel, i.e. KDE software! (notice me Calinou !) |
18:16 |
Jordach |
Quassel is a very good client |
18:16 |
gravgun |
As much as KDevelop is an awesome IDE |
18:16 |
* hoodedice |
uses Quassel too |
18:16 |
gravgun |
using it right now |
18:17 |
hoodedice |
they don |
18:17 |
gravgun |
\o/ |
18:17 |
hoodedice |
they don't have auto-uodate tho |
18:17 |
hoodedice |
which is sad |
18:17 |
gravgun |
What auto-update? |
18:17 |
hoodedice |
because I was running the heartbleed SSl for a very long time |
18:17 |
hoodedice |
I'm on Windows |
18:17 |
gravgun |
I'm on Arch, birch |
18:17 |
gravgun |
:P |
18:17 |
hoodedice |
k |
18:17 |
gravgun |
rolling release ftw |
18:18 |
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18:19 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, in recent times my Blender skill has reached a ceiling |
18:19 |
Yellowberry |
hi |
18:19 |
Jordach |
i can't make it look better without learning Cycles or post-pro |
18:20 |
Calinou |
is Cycles faster than Blender:Render? |
18:20 |
Jordach |
Calinou, GPU dependant |
18:20 |
Jordach |
it needs CUDA |
18:20 |
gravgun |
Wait |
18:20 |
gravgun |
CUDA? |
18:20 |
Jordach |
...if you want to go fast |
18:20 |
Jordach |
gravgun, nvidia tech |
18:20 |
gravgun |
No OCL? |
18:20 |
gravgun |
ikr |
18:20 |
Calinou |
yes, no OpenCL |
18:20 |
Calinou |
not planned apparently |
18:20 |
Calinou |
Blender devs sold them to two devils at a time |
18:20 |
gravgun |
me disappointed very much |
18:20 |
Jordach |
(seriously, fuck nvidia, might go AMD when the next blender releases with OCL type) |
18:21 |
gravgun |
fuck nvidia AND amd, intel |
18:21 |
Calinou |
there won't be OpenCL in the near future |
18:21 |
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18:21 |
Calinou |
what gravgun said |
18:21 |
Calinou |
they all suck, ultimately |
18:21 |
gravgun |
oh and the worst |
18:21 |
gravgun |
ImgTech |
18:21 |
Jordach |
Calinou, AMD cards with the Omega driver support OCL |
18:21 |
marktraceur |
Kid CUDA, his new single, Pursuit of Performanceness |
18:21 |
Calinou |
yes they do |
18:21 |
Calinou |
but will Blender? |
18:21 |
gravgun |
x) |
18:21 |
Jordach |
Calinou, Cycles-dev supports OCL |
18:21 |
Calinou |
are there missing features? |
18:21 |
Jordach |
not sure |
18:21 |
Jordach |
i still love Interals like crazy |
18:22 |
gravgun |
you accidentally an n I think |
18:22 |
Jordach |
(the other renderers love their Intel + nvidia CGPUs and windows) |
18:23 |
gravgun |
Anyway I'm crap at Blender |
18:23 |
gravgun |
I can make cubes |
18:23 |
gravgun |
woo |
18:23 |
Jordach |
gravgun, 16k render of a blender cube over here |
18:23 |
gravgun |
yay |
18:24 |
Jordach |
(that little shit crashes browsers) |
18:24 |
gravgun |
16k? I ain't even mad |
18:24 |
Jordach |
also, jesus students get cheap booze at places that support ISIC cards |
18:24 |
Jordach |
£1.50 for a pint?!??!? |
18:25 |
gravgun |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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18:31 |
roniz |
why does V7 mapgen have no biomes? |
18:32 |
hmmmm |
because nobody put biomes into minetest_game |
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18:32 |
hmmmm |
minetest_game is someone elses' responsibility.. |
18:33 |
DevilRomeo2 |
sup |
18:34 |
shadowzone |
sup DevilRomeo2 |
18:35 |
DevilRomeo2 |
are u still at school ? |
18:37 |
shadowzone |
Nope |
18:37 |
shadowzone |
It's break |
18:37 |
Yellowberry |
aw |
18:37 |
shadowzone |
Yeah.. |
18:37 |
Yellowberry |
mine doesn't start till Friday |
18:37 |
Yellowberry |
:( |
18:38 |
shadowzone |
Lucky |
18:38 |
DevilRomeo2 |
calinou sup |
18:38 |
DevilRomeo2 |
Calinou* |
18:38 |
Calinou |
hi |
18:38 |
DevilRomeo2 |
How are you ? |
18:39 |
Calinou |
fine |
18:41 |
hoodedice |
DevilRomeo2: type half the name like hood, then press TAB |
18:41 |
hoodedice |
hood <TAB> |
18:41 |
DevilRomeo2 |
hoodedice: bish you guese it |
18:41 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD |
18:41 |
rubenwardy |
Make sure you check, otherwise you end up writing "ShadowBot" |
18:41 |
rubenwardy |
when you wanted Ninja |
18:42 |
shadowzone |
I have it set to last said |
18:42 |
hoodedice |
Webchat tells you if there are multiple people |
18:42 |
DevilRomeo2 |
I don't wanan copy fireball code to make Z Staff feel bad about copying other people's hardwork code |
18:43 |
DevilRomeo2 |
well since they ban me from xandu server for no reason I guese I have to cancle Z Staff sorry Zeno_Effect |
18:44 |
hoodedice |
bl |
18:44 |
hoodedice |
*bbl |
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18:44 |
Calinou |
you can copy it, under certain conditions |
18:45 |
DevilRomeo2 |
idc If that license is wtfpl |
18:45 |
DevilRomeo2 |
I still feel bad |
18:45 |
DevilRomeo2 |
That's why my license code is BY NC ND |
18:46 |
* Calinou |
facepalm |
18:46 |
Calinou |
that license isn't allowed in Mod Releases forum |
18:46 |
Calinou |
also, about prohibiting commercial use, see http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC |
18:46 |
shadowzone |
It isn't? |
18:46 |
DevilRomeo2 |
mine is at WIP XD |
18:46 |
Calinou |
it won't be moved out of WIP, until you change licensed |
18:46 |
Calinou |
-d |
18:47 |
DevilRomeo2 |
well let it be on wip then forever |
18:47 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD |
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18:48 |
DevilRomeo2 |
well I just need a license that can stop any player re modify my code and post it as his own code |
18:49 |
marktraceur |
DevilRomeo2: Attribution will do that, and pretty much any free license has protections for attribution. |
18:49 |
Yellowberry |
BY SA does that right? |
18:49 |
marktraceur |
Even just BY. |
18:50 |
rubenwardy |
BY |
18:50 |
marktraceur |
But if you're licensing code, *please* don't use CC. |
18:50 |
marktraceur |
It's just silly. |
18:50 |
Yellowberry |
why/ |
18:50 |
Yellowberry |
? |
18:50 |
rubenwardy |
GPL 3.0 or later is standard |
18:50 |
rubenwardy |
CC is for media, like images and text |
18:50 |
rubenwardy |
Not for code |
18:50 |
marktraceur |
It's not meant for code, it never was. |
18:50 |
rubenwardy |
It works, but doesn't completely protect |
18:50 |
marktraceur |
There are things involved in software that aren't dealt with by CC. |
18:50 |
marktraceur |
Patents, compiling, etc. |
18:51 |
DevilRomeo2 |
oh god whats with nova skin webpage get ur ass online bro its been 4 days |
18:51 |
Calinou |
<rubenwardy> GPL 3.0 or later is standard |
18:51 |
Calinou |
incompatible with Minetest upstream |
18:51 |
Calinou |
prefer “LGPL 2.1 or later†|
18:51 |
marktraceur |
Despite my best efforts |
18:51 |
rubenwardy |
LGPL sucks |
18:51 |
marktraceur |
And how. |
18:51 |
Calinou |
it may do, but it is what Minetest uses |
18:51 |
Yellowberry |
you see, that is why I don't deal with licences |
18:52 |
rubenwardy |
You can always relicense, but the GPL 3.0 will still be available. |
18:52 |
Calinou |
I deal a lot with licenses, it's entertaining |
18:52 |
DevilRomeo2 |
what about GNU |
18:52 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, or dual-license |
18:52 |
Yellowberry |
and get say, screw it, Unlicence |
18:52 |
Calinou |
“LGPL 2.1 or later†+ “GPL 3 or later†|
18:52 |
kaeza |
Yellowberry++ |
18:52 |
Calinou |
people can choose either, or one of them |
18:52 |
kaeza |
or BSD, or MIT, or CC0 |
18:52 |
Calinou |
this is what Qt did for a while |
18:53 |
shadowzone |
DevilRomeo2, no one will maliciously wreck or distribute your code. |
18:53 |
shadowzone |
So, why you are so bent on using a license that prohibits them from then dumbfounds me. |
18:53 |
shadowzone |
Cause we're all family here. |
18:53 |
shadowzone |
We would never do anything to hurt your code |
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18:53 |
kaeza |
what |
18:53 |
DevilRomeo2 |
poor shadow |
18:53 |
rubenwardy |
ShadowBot-- |
18:53 |
Calinou |
probably used multi-line input |
18:53 |
Yellowberry |
lol |
18:53 |
kaeza |
Calinou, or lagging connection |
18:53 |
Calinou |
anyone wants to play chess? |
18:53 |
DevilRomeo2 |
well is swear word allowed in here |
18:54 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD |
18:54 |
marktraceur |
DevilRomeo2: Fuckin' right they are |
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kaeza |
DevilRomeo2, yes, as long as they are fucking reasonable |
18:54 |
Yellowberry |
lol |
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18:55 |
shadowzone |
yikes |
18:55 |
Yellowberry |
enough of that :P |
18:55 |
Calinou |
http://lichess.org/4oyf1Hsj – 15+0 – first one to click plays |
18:55 |
DevilRomeo2 |
TITAN YOU STUPID MOTHER FUCKER FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR ADMIN COMMANDS REMOVING MY PRIV FOR NO REASON FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR TINY LIL DICK U #STUPID MOFO SUFFER |
18:55 |
Calinou |
don't write in all-caps though |
18:55 |
Yellowberry |
yep |
18:55 |
DevilRomeo2 |
ah its so good yelling out my anger |
18:55 |
kaeza |
and no "u" either |
18:55 |
shadowzone |
what'd I miss? |
18:55 |
Yellowberry |
everything |
18:56 |
shadowzone |
Hmmmm |
18:56 |
DevilRomeo2 |
you missed my swear xD |
18:56 |
kaeza |
repeat after me: "I will not use 'u' in place of 'you'" |
18:56 |
shadowzone |
been lagging a lot |
18:56 |
shadowzone |
I will use u in replacement of you |
18:56 |
DevilRomeo2 |
I will use u instead of you |
18:56 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD |
18:57 |
DevilRomeo2 |
kae we all disagree |
18:57 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD |
18:57 |
kaeza |
u sux |
18:57 |
DevilRomeo2 |
your mama sux |
18:57 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD |
18:57 |
kaeza |
yes :( |
18:57 |
Yellowberry |
sux wat? |
18:57 |
Yellowberry |
:P |
18:57 |
DevilRomeo2 |
wait what! |
18:57 |
DevilRomeo2 |
LMFAO |
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18:57 |
Calinou |
marktraceur / rubenwardy: chess? |
18:57 |
shadowzone |
I like kaeza, doe. |
18:58 |
shadowzone |
he is nice to me |
18:58 |
shadowzone |
kaeza++ |
18:58 |
rubenwardy |
Busy. Always so busy. :) |
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shadowzone |
hi exio4 |
18:58 |
DevilRomeo2 |
Anywone wanan play GunZ2 only for peeps who live at South East Asia |
18:58 |
* kaeza |
hugs shadowzone |
18:58 |
* kaeza |
licks exio4 |
18:58 |
* shadowzone |
meows at exio4 |
18:58 |
* DevilRomeo2 |
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18:58 |
* DevilRomeo2 |
throws masterball to everywone |
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* Yellowberry |
slaps everyone |
18:59 |
DevilRomeo2 |
hey is that original cg that made pvp server x3 |
18:59 |
kaeza |
everywone! wabbits! |
18:59 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I'm kinda busy too, sorry |
18:59 |
* DevilRomeo2 |
sings wiggle wiggle wigle |
18:59 |
cg72 |
no its me DevilRomeo2 |
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Calinou |
Yellowberry, chess? |
19:00 |
DevilRomeo2 |
me what mew or mewtwo xD |
19:00 |
shadowzone |
cg72, uh huh |
19:00 |
Yellowberry |
hmm |
19:00 |
DevilRomeo2 |
xD well don't ask me for chess cause I don't know how to play that |
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DevilRomeo2 |
I can play Dam anyone x3 |
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DevilRomeo2 |
shadow say smaasitf |
19:02 |
DevilRomeo2 |
forgot everywone cant talk their captured by my masterball xD |
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DevilRomeo2 |
shadow |
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DevilRomeo2 |
say smaasitf |
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exio4 |
hi kaeza / shadowzone |
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Calinou |
chess: http://lichess.org/4oyf1Hsj – 15+0 – first one to click play |
19:23 |
sol_invictus |
I guess Calinou doesn't know anything besides chess. oh. |
19:23 |
Calinou |
now playing: http://lichess.org/4oyf1HsjNi0R |
19:23 |
Calinou |
sol_invictus, no one clicked it :P |
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kaeza |
remember JSBombers? I miss that one :( |
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rubenwardy |
http://rubenwardy.github.io/2014/12/16/lotka-volterra/ |
19:46 |
Calinou |
sounds like name of a vodka |
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marktraceur |
I'd drink that mixed with tonic water. |
19:47 |
rubenwardy |
Lol |
19:49 |
rubenwardy |
Updated: http://rubenwardy.github.io/minetest_doc/chapters/formspecs.html |
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Yellowberry |
I am lonely |
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TenPlus1 |
hi folks... any devs in the house today ? |
20:12 |
TenPlus1 |
need some help with latest MT dev and v7 mapgen, it's all gone kinda crazy o.O |
20:12 |
Yellowberry |
TenPlus1: what's going on? |
20:13 |
TenPlus1 |
running Ethereal on latest dev only gives bamboo biomes even though 13 exist... |
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TenPlus1 |
I've tried to incorporate new values that paramat stated in forums but nothing works, it's always bamboo |
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Yellowberry |
I think that is paramat's problem |
20:15 |
TenPlus1 |
v7 biomes were working nicely, what changed ? |
20:18 |
Yellowberry |
since when has this been a problem? |
20:19 |
TenPlus1 |
the last few daily releases, v7 mapgen has been screwy and not working properly, before that biomes worked fine... |
20:19 |
TenPlus1 |
I was given this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10621&p=164110#p164110 |
20:20 |
TenPlus1 |
but sadly does not help any... they are still buggy... |
20:21 |
Yellowberry |
what is the last date that it worked properly? |
20:21 |
TenPlus1 |
oh crap, say a week back... amnot 100% sure sorry |
20:22 |
TenPlus1 |
I was testing ethereal udpate on standalone dev 31xx and it worked... since 321x it has been borked |
20:22 |
TenPlus1 |
am using 3218build just now |
20:23 |
Yellowberry |
hmm |
20:23 |
Yellowberry |
hmmm |
20:23 |
Yellowberry |
hmmmmm |
20:24 |
TenPlus1 |
it was all working nicely before so I dont get the change... |
20:25 |
PilzAdam |
TenPlus1, we told you, the API wasn't stable and will change |
20:26 |
TenPlus1 |
I know PilzAdam but I never thought it would break this badly... is there any way to get it working again ?? |
20:26 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
20:26 |
PilzAdam |
do you believe devs now if they tell you something is unstable? |
20:27 |
TenPlus1 |
was testing everything before 0.4.11 was released... |
20:27 |
TenPlus1 |
dont want ppl upgrading then all of a sudden Ethereal no longer workd |
20:28 |
PilzAdam |
well, honestly, it's your fault if you use an unstable API |
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TenPlus1 |
agreed, but code mapgens like paramat uses are so damned slow... this was the fastest I'd ever used and Xanadu server works so well |
20:30 |
PilzAdam |
it's still not in lua_api.txt, so it's still not "stable" |
20:31 |
hmmmm |
biomes were never a supported feature |
20:31 |
hmmmm |
also biomes and mapgen v7 work perfectly fine for me |
20:31 |
TenPlus1 |
hmm,m, could you please send me a LUA example of your biomes |
20:32 |
PilzAdam |
hmmmm, will they be supported for 0.4.11? |
20:32 |
hmmmm |
they won't be supported until they're actually good |
20:32 |
hmmmm |
TenPlus1, don't have any |
20:32 |
TenPlus1 |
if it's just me and I'm doing something stupid then looking at your code will show me what I'm doing wrong... |
20:32 |
TenPlus1 |
I have 13 biomes defined and all I see is one |
20:34 |
TenPlus1 |
or could you look at this page and tell me if I'm doing something stupid: https://github.com/tenplus1/ethereal/blob/master/mapgen_v7s.lua |
20:34 |
Megaf_ |
hm, I'm living with my girlfriend for 4 months now, and we are practiacally living toguether for two and a half years |
20:34 |
Megaf_ |
I think it's time to go one step further |
20:34 |
Megaf_ |
Isn't it? |
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hmmmm |
could it be that your ethereal options aren't set to 1? |
20:36 |
TenPlus1 |
all biomes are set to 1 and enabled |
20:37 |
hmmmm |
looks fine to me |
20:42 |
TenPlus1 |
<fingers crossed> it's just a bug in the build... |
20:43 |
hmmmm |
can confirm. having problems with more than one biome. |
20:44 |
TenPlus1 |
thx for checking dude |
20:46 |
hmmmm |
wondering why nobody brought this problem up before seeing as how it's such a visible issue |
20:49 |
TenPlus1 |
the major v7 mapgens like paramats use his own code to draw them so it wouldnt be noticable... it's only the few using v7 mapgen to do the actual work (ethereal, simplev7) that show the glitches |
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20:53 |
TenPlus1 |
simplev7 shows only jungles everywhere |
20:55 |
hmmmm |
ahh whoops, i forgot about checking the biome noise parameters when i added the auto-noise-transform feature |
20:55 |
TenPlus1 |
could that be causing the 1 biome worlds ? |
20:55 |
hmmmm |
...yes... that's why I said it in the channel |
20:56 |
TenPlus1 |
sweet, glad you found it :) can't wait for tomorrow's daily |
20:58 |
hmmmm |
thanks for reporting that btw |
20:58 |
TenPlus1 |
no probs, thanks for finding it so quickly :P |
20:58 |
TenPlus1 |
I'll update when new release is out and give it a good testing :) |
20:59 |
Yellowberry |
â»â€¿â» |
20:59 |
TenPlus1 |
thanks all... time for bed :P |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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roniz |
hi luizrpgluiz |
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jojoa1997 |
why was 4aiman banned? |
21:50 |
jojoa1997 |
oh nvm he wasnt. My fault for believing a single post |
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luizrpgluiz |
roniz: hi roni :) |
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roniz |
you know the ethereal world gen |
22:07 |
roniz |
its really good |
22:08 |
roniz |
is there a way to make it less flat and give more altitudes |
22:10 |
luizrpgluiz |
I know him, he is very heavy here for my notebook |
22:10 |
luizrpgluiz |
sorry for my english |
22:10 |
luizrpgluiz |
i am portuguese brazilian |
22:11 |
roniz |
its okay, most people speak with bad English on IRC |
22:12 |
roniz |
if you need any help, ask |
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gravgun |
HEY EVERYONE! DID YOU KNOW ALL WHAT YOU SAY ON THIS IRC CHANNEL IS LOGGED HERE: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest ? |
22:18 |
gravgun |
(see #minetest-dev logs for allcaps justification) |
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kaeza |
wut |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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ciwolsey |
hey |
23:43 |
ciwolsey |
does mesecons have batteries of any kind? |
23:43 |
ciwolsey |
to store power from solar panels? |
23:43 |
jin_xi |
that sounds more like whats in the technic mod |
23:44 |
kaeza |
ciwolsey, no, mesecons are digital signals |
23:44 |
ciwolsey |
ah so just like redstone? |
23:44 |
ciwolsey |
is there anything like... |
23:44 |
ciwolsey |
im not sure what mod it is |
23:44 |
ciwolsey |
but where you can generate power, store it etc |
23:44 |
ciwolsey |
like solar panels in tekkit lite |
23:45 |
ciwolsey |
and mse |
23:45 |
kaeza |
what jin_xi said |
23:45 |
ciwolsey |
oh missed that, sorry, thanks! |
23:45 |
kaeza |
use technic. it has "real" electricity |
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Bratmon |
Technic is very analogous to tekkt. |
23:59 |
ciwolsey |
yup just looking at it |
23:59 |
ciwolsey |
are there any complete texture packs? |
23:59 |
ciwolsey |
that make things look better? |